The Downfall of NASCAR Group Qualifying

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@lcs3491
@lcs3491 4 жыл бұрын
the clint bowyer interviews were amazing 😂
@EvanG336
@EvanG336 4 жыл бұрын
That’s why I love group qualifying!
@Davethepossum225
@Davethepossum225 4 жыл бұрын
That's why he is one of my favorites
@lukc7952
@lukc7952 3 жыл бұрын
In nascar: Clint Bowyer interviews are the best In f1:kimi räikkönen interviews are the best
@evannuh-koo-la4054
@evannuh-koo-la4054 4 жыл бұрын
Group qaulifying made Ricky Stenhouse fail to qaulify for the fall Talledega race in 2014
@xoxksa
@xoxksa 4 жыл бұрын
In other words, group qualifying prevented a major accident.
@RacingWorldTV202
@RacingWorldTV202 4 жыл бұрын
Almost made Jeff Gordon miss a race in the midst of the Chase as a prime championship contender too.
@hmillermotorsports6788
@hmillermotorsports6788 4 жыл бұрын
@@RacingWorldTV202 Um, owner points. Jeff couldnt DNQ if he wanted to
@codynorris3981
@codynorris3981 4 жыл бұрын
@@xoxksa haha. I dont know why this made me laugh so hard! ol wrecky spinhouse...
@Hutt92
@Hutt92 4 жыл бұрын
They should just take Ricky shithouses license away.
@cctitansfan
@cctitansfan 4 жыл бұрын
The Talladega fall 2014 Qualifying session was a total cluster.
@MitDau87
@MitDau87 4 жыл бұрын
Now if they get rid of the crap "chase" system I'd watch again.
@webduelist
@webduelist 4 жыл бұрын
they did, its the playoffs now, an even worse system.
@MitDau87
@MitDau87 4 жыл бұрын
@@webduelist idc what it is called. All that matters is 35 races don't matter.
@MitDau87
@MitDau87 4 жыл бұрын
@Big Poppa Trump I mean you are here....
@svech37
@svech37 4 жыл бұрын
1. dont be stupid its racing so youd better watch it. 2. its called the playoffs. 3. 10 races matter which eliminates 24 drivers. 4. fucking watch the sport there is nothing better to do moron
@fishproductions22
@fishproductions22 4 жыл бұрын
Well it worked Then it didn't
@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance
@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance 4 жыл бұрын
It never worked.
@scottschell
@scottschell 4 жыл бұрын
@@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance it works on the road courses just not on the ovals.
@joshjarnagin3161
@joshjarnagin3161 4 жыл бұрын
I personally liked the group qualifying that the Xfinity used on road courses where they used 6 or 7 groups
@keepthefocusonthesmithfiel1264
@keepthefocusonthesmithfiel1264 4 жыл бұрын
Cup did that with 5 car groups at Sonoma in 2013 I believe
@chucky29949
@chucky29949 4 жыл бұрын
Watch SCCA races lol
@ZachMan99
@ZachMan99 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, group qualifying. One of the many, many things to happen to NASCAR that made me a die hard fan to couldn't care less if I miss a race.
@sportstrap4285
@sportstrap4285 4 жыл бұрын
Ok good for NASCAR taking away group qualifying now they just need to GET RID OF THE DAMN CHARTER SYSTEM
@andrewh21
@andrewh21 4 жыл бұрын
Single car qualifying was the way it should be but it was boring to watch Group qualifying was more fun to watch
@personofthefield
@personofthefield 4 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking. It should be single.
@KR_Diecasts
@KR_Diecasts 4 жыл бұрын
I think we’re all happy single car qualifying is back.
@jasonrockafellowfilms8850
@jasonrockafellowfilms8850 4 жыл бұрын
Advance_Auto18 according to 21% of people, they wanna see wrecks
@patrickperry8951
@patrickperry8951 4 жыл бұрын
Now if racing format was back to how it originally was
@JordanRunge14
@JordanRunge14 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickperry8951 Yes!
@Kartkid024
@Kartkid024 4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickperry8951 One thing I think NASCAR got right was the playoff system. Old system was great, but it reached a point were there were a lot of races that had no real importance and many times people knew who was gonna win the Championship and who didn't stand a chance halfway through the season. Now every race means something and it truly does come down to the final week.
@Cyclone-od7ih
@Cyclone-od7ih 4 жыл бұрын
I just wish it was back to the point where more than 43 cars showed up every weekend and the go or go home qualifying was a thing again.
@aiwash2766
@aiwash2766 4 жыл бұрын
God I genuinely had forgotten how awful the qualifying situation had gotten
@nascardrawings7700
@nascardrawings7700 4 жыл бұрын
Wow I've never seen the autoclub qualifying because no one has a video with audio. "EVERYONE has seen the flag" that's hysterical. Thank you so much
@123456789colton
@123456789colton 4 жыл бұрын
I remember the first time Xfinity group qualifying happened at Daytona, that was incredible. I'm glad that single car qualifying is back, but it was so much fun to watch
@4x_mffl
@4x_mffl 4 жыл бұрын
At Las Vegas earlier this year, late in the final qualifying round, all 12 drivers bunched up, and everyone completed 2 laps before the clock ran out...... except for Alex Bowman & Chase Elliott, they didn't complete there lap on time, when they both had the fastest laps, their laps got taken away, giving Kevin Harvick the pole.
@tankdempsey558
@tankdempsey558 4 жыл бұрын
It was bound to fail from the start
@theracingdriver303jr4
@theracingdriver303jr4 4 жыл бұрын
9:21 we know how this escalated at Charlotte just some weeks later
@carfan3649
@carfan3649 3 жыл бұрын
Basically group qualifying in superspeedways could be summarized as Monza 2019 Q3 I guess
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@RawGator 4 жыл бұрын
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@ivermectin1908
@ivermectin1908 4 жыл бұрын
I think group qualifying has it's place. That place is on superspeedways. I like single car qualifying everywhere else because it showcases the entire teams effort in building and setting up the car. I think group qualifying at Daytona and Talladega is fine since single car takes so long, but everywhere else, show the entire team effort instead of just showing which driver happens to get a sniff of draft at just the right time.
@MarcoEvens
@MarcoEvens 4 жыл бұрын
Dad and I were at the fall Talladega race and qualifying was way more entertaining because you understood what was happening, no shoving around, got to get drivers autographs as they walked from the garages to their cars, and then the racing was great too
@DavidRagan3134
@DavidRagan3134 4 жыл бұрын
I like the suspense group qualifying created sometimes, but it definitely made it complicated and stupid sometimes. Also, I heard that Honey Speedway music. 👌😁 Good tastes, sir.
@weatherguy8380
@weatherguy8380 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized 4 years later that Sorenson almost flipped during that wreck
@TheRyan597
@TheRyan597 4 жыл бұрын
I'm shocked there wasn't a very bad accident during qualifying for the 2014 July Daytona Cup race. There were cars coasting on the banking at less than 50 mph while there were still cars running nearly full speed on track
@nascarfanatic2425
@nascarfanatic2425 4 жыл бұрын
Group qualifying is great for road courses to speed up the process so they can get to other activities that afternoon, (not to mention, give drivers who run in Xfinity Series or Truck Series races time to fly to the track that they're at in order to get there in time to start the race) but on the oval tracks, it should simply the single-car qualifying where they line up fastest time to slowest time.
@jokeroneninesevenzero
@jokeroneninesevenzero 4 жыл бұрын
I do not remember this at all. Everything Clint Bowyer said is spot on. Glad they got rid of it.
@CharlesB9496
@CharlesB9496 4 жыл бұрын
Downfall of NASCAR group qualifying AKA Clint bowyer is a nascar treasure
@bobby6715
@bobby6715 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on the history of lower series, like xfinity, trucks, arca, K&N, sportsman, convertible, etc.
@TylerBonenfant
@TylerBonenfant 4 жыл бұрын
damn ok mention the sportsmen and covertibles but not the modifieds its cool
@spartaninvestmentgroup413
@spartaninvestmentgroup413 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching since around 1000
@MxneyyyyGaming
@MxneyyyyGaming 4 жыл бұрын
Ayy man I'ma be honest... I considered unsubbing because memes were gone but I'm glad I didn't because we have videos like this... 🤘🏾
@ChiChiWoo
@ChiChiWoo 4 жыл бұрын
How group qualifying should work for NASCAR: Every session should be 15 minutes long. The checkered flag means that you cannot complete another lap, but if a lap is in progress while the checkers fly, you can complete that lap. For round 1, Drivers in positions 1-20 will move to Q2. Drivers in positions 21-40 start in the position they are in. Round 2- Drivers in positions 1-10 move on to the final round, while 11-20 place drivers start where they qualified. Round 3- the top ten fight for pole. Road courses- Yellow flags only come out on a certain sector where an accident took place, and if the driver fails to slow, they get a grid penalty. So, it’s nearly the same as F1 qualifying.
@JacobJett
@JacobJett 4 жыл бұрын
Group qualifying was a mess and I'm glad it's dead.
@tommyd.6592
@tommyd.6592 4 жыл бұрын
2025 no more televised Nascar. Enjoy it now. So long.
@Jose-Gomez
@Jose-Gomez 3 жыл бұрын
Man, Group Qualifying, Is Seriously An Absolute Insult To Formula 1. We Want Single Car Qualifying Back, For Superspeedways,D-Shaped Tracks, Short Tracks, And Road Courses.
@halfassproductions2715
@halfassproductions2715 4 жыл бұрын
If they worked group qualifying correctly it'd be so good to watch
@SAVINGEZRA
@SAVINGEZRA Жыл бұрын
I actually kind of miss the group qualifying just because it was laughable shenanigans that went on 😂
@myck7021
@myck7021 4 жыл бұрын
I like group because it made it more interesting and you didn’t just have to wait for nascars ok to ok you can drive for 2 laps where they can as many as they want till the time it up
@trentonmackey440
@trentonmackey440 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they went back to single car qualifying. It's a better system, and honestly I find it more exciting. Group qualifying is just stupid, except on road courses.
@daleearnhardtfan3889
@daleearnhardtfan3889 4 жыл бұрын
thank god for Single car qualifying ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️😎😎😎😎😎🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@imsfruther2691
@imsfruther2691 4 жыл бұрын
Almost to 25k
@basedgodstrugglin
@basedgodstrugglin 4 жыл бұрын
Group qualification is brilliant but the aero package is the issue. I was there at Auto Club and hated the race on Sunday too
@ThunderMS34
@ThunderMS34 4 жыл бұрын
I like single car qualifying with groups. I also like the group qualifying at Road Courses
@mattsisoler6125
@mattsisoler6125 3 жыл бұрын
See. For all the ovals this was a really dumb way to do things, but I do like it for road courses because as F1 has shown, it works on those types of circuits.
@ryansheehan9462
@ryansheehan9462 4 жыл бұрын
They never should have gone to group qualifying in the first place
@michaelscott1862
@michaelscott1862 4 жыл бұрын
I appreciated NASCAR trying different things....but it wasn't needed.
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, ryan. Thanks for that illuminating comment. I appreciate it.
@antardas6734
@antardas6734 4 жыл бұрын
Group Quali is better but with the new rules package it sucks.
@wyattcalhoon8047
@wyattcalhoon8047 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds awesome they should try that againg
@abpob6052
@abpob6052 4 жыл бұрын
Single car qualifying is my favorite part. Nobody crashes you. Nobody holds you up. There are no team tactics. Qualifying order should always be random. And make qualifying more important. Give them 10% of the total race points. Get rid of the Chase. I know it is to keep tv interest but it's not fun to watch. I like the race segments but award each segment significant points and a portion of the overall purse. Make it worthwhile for teams to try to be up front.
@alexthesniper1952
@alexthesniper1952 4 жыл бұрын
Single car old school qualifying for the win
@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance
@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance 4 жыл бұрын
Remember that time Tony Stewart smashed the Texas track record for the cup series in the 2nd round and started 7th? This format was bullshit.
@calebbarnes135
@calebbarnes135 4 жыл бұрын
Group qualifying was fine the way they had it from 2016-2018 but with this package it doesn’t work anymore
@jorgemartinez18
@jorgemartinez18 4 жыл бұрын
No, I've always hated group qualifying. And I couldn't believe that it ever existed.
@dillongoodwin48
@dillongoodwin48 4 жыл бұрын
8:01 I’m exactly to the left of that
@hotdogs5265
@hotdogs5265 4 жыл бұрын
Explaining the NASCAR rules now is like a scene out of BASEketball
@jrfan07
@jrfan07 4 жыл бұрын
Always preferred single car Q over group. Qualifying was never meant to be a "show" (other than the duels) and this was a classic example of taking a system that wasn't broken, trying to fix it...and breaking it. Glad we went back.
@cautioncorner841
@cautioncorner841 4 жыл бұрын
Group qualifying was good until 2019 honestly
@Buttnut-lz6ui
@Buttnut-lz6ui 4 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on NASCAR restarts that defined the season like 2014 at Texas with Kes/JG or 2016 with Carl/Joey
@mesousagaby740
@mesousagaby740 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I loved group qualifying, these drivers would just rather play chicken instead of doing their fucking job. We can agree that doing it on super-speedways weren't the best idea (especially the Daytona 500 when they already had their own qualifying races), but not going out there all because the draft was gonna come into there is just some cowardly bullshit. Now we're back to boring as shit qualifying where it would have been more acceptable in the time Nascar was healthy, but now it CLEARLY isn't, and there needed to be some excitement even for qualifying to bring up some attention, but nope, they chickened out and Fridays are just nothing days again. What a load of shit. Might as well not air Qualifying whatsoever on TV except on road courses.
@cameron2467
@cameron2467 4 жыл бұрын
I think group qualifying would have worked if the rules were clear about it ahead of time
@whippersnapper6456
@whippersnapper6456 4 жыл бұрын
The issue at California was more about the new rules package and the cars being more dependent on drafting than group qualifying. They need to get rid of this package.
@bobbyshmurdashat3369
@bobbyshmurdashat3369 4 жыл бұрын
I like hearing about drivers on the come up on low funded teams, not an hour of talking about the top guys on the track, that happens enough on Sunday
@chaotictoaster1094
@chaotictoaster1094 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad they brought back single car buy I did enjoy group qualifying more when it wasnt a disaster
@oreofudgeman
@oreofudgeman 4 жыл бұрын
Group qualifying is a joke. They might as well run two races. Theres no reason qualifying should be that risky for teams and their cars. Yet another example of NASCAR doing whatever they can to try and make races more spectator friendly, the heart of the sport be damned
@joshuamessenger119
@joshuamessenger119 4 жыл бұрын
Well, group qualifying works perfectly fine except when the draft comes into play. Once the plate tracks were moved to single-car sessions, everything was peachy for years, until the package had an element of the draft to it; that's when everything fell apart. So it's a good system and should come back maybe for the Next-Gen car if there isn't any draft complications with that. It's annoying to see how everyone was content with it at most tracks until this year, when everything got absolutely blown out of the water.
@andrewnovak5478
@andrewnovak5478 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like we should bring group qualifying back for tracks
@agent7861
@agent7861 4 жыл бұрын
Group quail only works on Road Courses. INDYCAR does groups on road courses and single car on ovals.
@ianfromwiisports
@ianfromwiisports 4 жыл бұрын
First. And I clicked on the notification as soon as I saw it.
@wordlesslfiddling
@wordlesslfiddling 4 жыл бұрын
If they absolutely must do group qualifying instead of having a timer end when every car that can clocks 2 laps
@michaelscott1862
@michaelscott1862 4 жыл бұрын
Issue with that is that no one wants to be the first car out....no one would leave pit road then if there is no timer.
@zachg9065
@zachg9065 4 жыл бұрын
Single car qualifying is way better then group. Just the driver and his car. Show your skills alone. That’s how you get the best time
@notmasyn41
@notmasyn41 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, just bring back group qualifying but make one car go at a time
@joshjarnagin3161
@joshjarnagin3161 4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t “make one car go at a time” also the definition for single car qualifying?
@1888Wyatt
@1888Wyatt 4 жыл бұрын
i really wonder if you are mentally incompetent.
@notmasyn41
@notmasyn41 4 жыл бұрын
What I’m saying is, One car goes, they wait till they get to the 2nd turn, then the next guy goes
@daffy7313
@daffy7313 4 жыл бұрын
I found it lmaooo
@daffy7313
@daffy7313 4 жыл бұрын
@@notmasyn41 you realise that's how it is right now, right? They wait a little longer but I'm pretty sure their are 2 cars on track. 1 car slow on apron in turn 4 while the other is passing it going through 4 to get the green.
@jacobevenson8702
@jacobevenson8702 4 жыл бұрын
Group qualifying was miles better than normal qualifying for a lot of reasons, but this ass package killed it. Yeah the racing has been a bit better at 1.5 milers, but why not use a 2014 package that was great everywhere...
@michaelscott1862
@michaelscott1862 4 жыл бұрын
Single Car Qualifying. That group car shit was cool for about 20 minutes. NASCAR tried...but the teams found a way to circumvent things and it exposed the holes in the idea. Qualifying isn't suppose to be exciting.... NASCAR making it more important than the damn race makes this one of NASCAR's biggest duh-huh moments ever....and I've been a fan since the late 80's.
@Sloppyplane37
@Sloppyplane37 4 жыл бұрын
Well now we don’t even qualify
@noneyabusiness1624
@noneyabusiness1624 4 жыл бұрын
There was nothing wrong with this system, except for the fact that the drivers themselves made a mockery of it by standing on Pit Road to the last minute which was total BS. What the television at the time did not explain to the people is that the drivers were being told to stand on Pit Road by their owners and their crew chiefs if they just would have gone out and qualified like they had before there wouldn't have been any problem. Obviously the problems at Daytona and Talladega should have never happen because yes that should have been single car qualifying all along. I still have not heard an apology from the drivers crew chiefs and owners over what happened at California and Texas this season which in my opinion is total BS.
@awesomeladen1166
@awesomeladen1166 4 жыл бұрын
Here since 2016 gang
@lmAgustin
@lmAgustin 4 жыл бұрын
Duels every race for qualifying.
@crussell6533
@crussell6533 4 жыл бұрын
I got here 620th! GOALS!
@bellflouryt4484
@bellflouryt4484 4 жыл бұрын
If they reimplement heat qually, people may bother to watch qually. This probably would tear up a few cars, but at least we won’t have to worry about this bs v
@davidhonkstvorisit4811
@davidhonkstvorisit4811 4 жыл бұрын
It they wanted to have group qualifying stay they should have got some car like the NBC Nascar and put it on track as to start the draft so that way other cars would be able to follow it and make this draft bubble
@BarbecueHockey
@BarbecueHockey 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer Ridge Wallet
@GOROCKIES
@GOROCKIES 7 ай бұрын
That Group qualifying was just so stupid
@devincullins4215
@devincullins4215 4 жыл бұрын
If it ain't broke, don't fix it! The show is on Sunday, not friday or saturday.
@davej9228
@davej9228 4 жыл бұрын
How it should have been done. Ten minutes to go ten laps. One minute to hit the track or DQ. Average slow and fast lap. No more slow laps. Problem solved.
@FrosteeWusky
@FrosteeWusky 4 жыл бұрын
Group qualifying was an idea that had one goal in mind and it never achieved that goal. Only made the drivers, teams, and NASCAR as a whole look like a clown show. It's amazing it took so long to kill it at the oval tracks, and I think they outta kill it at the road courses too.
@ckp_sniper18
@ckp_sniper18 4 жыл бұрын
Oml Clint Bowyer tho
@ashketchumsdad
@ashketchumsdad 4 жыл бұрын
Might have been the most embarrassing moment for the higher ups at NASCAR. Every sport makes bad callls all the time sure. Nascar has made some stupid rule changes but this was the icing of the cake. NASCAR cried that the teams were protesting. Nascar claimed single car qualifying was boring. (I don't think fans ever cared about qualifying entertainment lol). Such a non issue that didn't need any drastic change to fix it. But they kept trying to make it work. It was hilariously embarrassing
@DennyDeliversYT
@DennyDeliversYT 4 жыл бұрын
Clogging or wrecking...
@andrewhernandez4569
@andrewhernandez4569 4 жыл бұрын
Now if only supercross can also do single rider qualifying
@traceyturkovich
@traceyturkovich 4 жыл бұрын
Oh crash compilation
@sbrmilitia
@sbrmilitia 4 жыл бұрын
Anything that bring excitement and teams to use strategy is a good thing but no one likes change and that’s why NASCAR is failing and F1 is growing exponentially in the American market. F1 figures out what’s causing the lack of excitement and does something to fix it.
@dee_gkbfan722
@dee_gkbfan722 4 жыл бұрын
Do downfall of midweek practice in nascar
@sludge4125
@sludge4125 4 жыл бұрын
Nascar, keep it fucking simple. Have another drink, brian.
@Mattgotsdagreenlight
@Mattgotsdagreenlight 4 жыл бұрын
Dictating when to qualifying and not making it back to the line after Time expires was just stupid.
@matthewloyster3893
@matthewloyster3893 4 жыл бұрын
BRING IT BACK
@DWM2309
@DWM2309 4 жыл бұрын
Man if Big Bill knew what Brian did to his sport... I imagine he's rolling over in his grave. They changed the points because of Matt Kenseth running away with the title with 1 win and just had to do something different. I hate they did away with the winston million and the no bull 5(they could have changed the name for the sake of it.) Stage races if done right in the right scenario is fun to watch. Short track stage racing like on dirt or heat races and main races would be fun to watch. The stage racing they have now came from the all star race and is fun for that but its ass regular races. You don't see NASCAR implementing the all star qualifying set up for the 36 other races. I think NASCAR can fix this and come back pretty good but the days of NASCAR being 2001-2006 big is not gonna happen.
@Kyokiri_46
@Kyokiri_46 4 жыл бұрын
Basically, Formula One Qualifying.
@Meaddie
@Meaddie 4 жыл бұрын
except almost every race is at Monza
@Hendrick_FAN
@Hendrick_FAN 4 жыл бұрын
Obviously I enjoy single car qualifying
@alithesuperduperian3839
@alithesuperduperian3839 4 жыл бұрын
Every weekend it posed a crash for anyone trying to get the fastest lap. I didn’t like it from the start.
@dopeymomasboy
@dopeymomasboy 4 жыл бұрын
Since when was qualifing aboutputting on a show?
@Steventhe2nd
@Steventhe2nd 4 жыл бұрын
i think most racing series should have single car qualifying, it's safer and better instead of going out in groups
@goodsmoke8613
@goodsmoke8613 4 жыл бұрын
Steventhe2nd so we should run the race in ones too?
@Steventhe2nd
@Steventhe2nd 4 жыл бұрын
@@goodsmoke8613 no, you're missing the point here
@cruiserdude16
@cruiserdude16 4 жыл бұрын
I personally like the fact that single car qualifying is finally coming back. For Ovals, group qualifying doesn't make sense at all, but for road courses it makes at least some sense.
@returntonature8773
@returntonature8773 4 жыл бұрын
Do like the TT Isle of Man race, start them individually every 10-15 seconds.
@cruiserdude16
@cruiserdude16 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Walker whatever game that's on I don't think I have it unless I'm being a stupid idiot rn
@returntonature8773
@returntonature8773 4 жыл бұрын
@@cruiserdude16 It's a real motorcycle race on the Isle of Man, not a game.
@cruiserdude16
@cruiserdude16 4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Walker oh so either way I was a stupid idiot. Got it
@tylerensminger
@tylerensminger 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think group qualifying works on ovals (it sometimes doesn't work on road courses either see Q3 from this years F1 Italian GO) and single car qualifying should be the way to go. I'd this comment is being read in the future then see 2019 Italian GP for the reference I made earlier
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