Say hello to full ap Rammus mid

​@@megadumbo6say hello to adc rammus

Have 100% seen a rammus top that I would want to go against. Have been tempted to try him support or adc bc I have mastery challenge and don't wanna jungle rn 😂

Not with that attitude

​@@frostyglock317 I can absolutly see him as support

Agreed. It's a different appeal from pro players who bend to the meta's whim because it's their job. OTPs genuinely love what they do and have the skills to play a diversity of champs to climb if they wanted to. Plus, having a main naturally attracts a community around you and helps build you up.

Most Otp's are not known widely. Only streamer otp's. Someone being a otp on a champ makes him inflated as he is so much worse on anything else.

@@philipposmalliaris4623that makes no sense. You dont judge someone on what they could potentially hypothetically achieve with every champ, you judge them on how they win games. Simple really

nah one tricking is for frauds to inflate their elo. If you're learning a new language and you can only speak 1 word is that really learning?

Agreed. This is something league has over other MOBAs.

Don't you know: one tricks are like the love of money. They're the root of all Evils in LoL. (Strangely, Riot August and Riot Phreak agree that Katarina Mains need to be appeased, so there is a bit of validity there.)

​@@omegaminoseer4539 really? Those two agreeing makes something valid in your eyes?

@@omegaminoseer4539 i am not sure if you are serouis or sarcastic so i will give you that

I hope there's more than just 12 servers running the game....

*Laughs in Kled one trick* (Can count all the times I've seen a Kled ban since release on one hand)

Thing is, one tricks will usually have a positive win rate regardless. Everything in league is coin flips for the most part, and you win more coin flips the better you are at flipping coins.

That's exactly the problem, people just copy their build without know why. After they get shit on and the numbers makes riot think they need to "fix" the item or the champion

and tbh, why do autofill exist anyway?

@@fishbones3650 it's to fill in lest popular rolls qued for at the time to increase finding a match speed. This is why they keep trying to turn the jungle into a smooth brain role and buffing support items to where they leak into other roles. Then people who main these rolls and additionally one trick they gain completely inflated elo then once they are auto filled into a roll in an elo they do not belong in - you get 2/37 bot lanes, 0 kp jungle, never leaves mid or top for 20 minutes regardless of lane states, etc. Basically the point of the video.

​@@fishbones3650 autofill just replaces the guy spamming top or mid in chat during champ select.

Agreed, it’s a fantastic idea to keep your champ pool low (1-2 champs) and stick to your preferred lane. HOWEVER, it is super important to be flexible especially early on in your league career. Understanding most champs and most lanes is vital to being super good at one champ and one lane

For sure, as a ranged-top main I ALWAYS ban Irelia, and a shitload of people OTP her... I miss Divine Sunderer, that shit was baller on Senna top lane...

There's difference between speciality in certain playstyle vs actual onetricking only one hero. Although we cant blame that not every people can be flexible, to be more precise only good in certain playstyle, but we as current generation of gamer at fault too. I mean most of us literally expect people to be good in everything, especially in moba It's kinda anoying that otp hero that always the same build regardless team comp and play in very specific playstyle

@@richardplunkett8492 i go for the route of having at least 1-2 champs im good at per role, with my only exception being jungle

I have such a varied champ pool. I can be top/jg, I can be tank, tanky bruiser, damage bruiser, lethality and crit/attack speed too. Just please don't ban Briar.

Incomprehensible, nerf Yone

@@zeal705 Yes, I never understood the Yone hate. Yesterday I had a OTP Yone on the enemy team with mindblowing mastery level that was clearly dominating everyone and it never felt hopeless for me. In fact, he just rage quited the game after his team got aced. For me, Yasuo has much more BS in his kit with that knock-up combo and the projectile deletion wall, but that's just me.

The best take here.

@@JoaoPedroPT696 Tuga here too btw, I think both are somewhat broken, they can be countered(Love playing Pantheon vs Yone for example), but they make the game unplayable for most champions if they know how to play, in my experience Yasuo is the worst one as well. When playing Pantheon(Anti-Diver champ) I can confortably win against Yone like 90% of the time, but against Yasuo's it's like 60 or 50% despite Pantheon being an Anti-Diver that excells early game and Yasuo being a Diver with a supposedly "weak" early game. Yasuo has sustain(No Mana, and Fat shield every few seconds and that broken wind shield), Crazy mobility(3rd Q+R and E which is just Irelia's Q on steroid's mobility wise), low cooldown(But low duration) CC with it's 3rd Q, damage steroids(Passive's free crit and R's anti-armor). If there's minions between you and a good Yasuo, most mages just cannot play, feed it the SLIGHTEST and you can no longer approach the minion wave, even early game, Yasuo has all the tools not to feed, outsustain the enemy and farm and with it's stupid Passive he scales way faster than most of it's enemies into the mid game. My champion pool is in fact limited, but my 3 best champs against him that I play would be Pantheon, Vex and Swain, but Pantheon sometimes gets outraded even early game due to it's Passive Shield and both having Q's to poke. Yasuo(Before) having Lethal Tempo means Pantheon cannot engage with W, cause Yasuo has higher DPS in long trades than Pantheon and Pantheon cannot escape Yasuo if there's minions nearby(Yasuo wouldn't go near Pantheon early without minions anyway), and a good Yasuo can just farm and not dive Pantheon early on since it knows it outscales pantheon, forcing Pantheon to dive first. Vex is also somewhat reliable but not always, if Yasuo dives and forces you to use passive he can dive again for quite a while without being too punished, it's not easy, you Vex surely wins most inexperienced Yasuo's, but a good one is a Nightmare for again another Anti-Diver champion. Swain weirdly enough is fine, it can poke with Q repeatly, break Yasuo's Passive and keep on poking, it's E however dies to windwall and Swain can lose longer trades early game, but if Yasuo dives recklessly, Swain's Q deals A LOT of base damage point plank, at lvl6 Swain can surprise diving Yasuo's and Win them a lot of times, but as the game goes on, Swain's Ult doesn't even compared to Yasuo's massive DPS and it even outheals swain due to Lifesteal. As for other champs I play, Zoe, Xerath, Lux, Neeko, Ziggs they can all poke a bad Yasuo sure, but a Yasuo just as good as you will win you 90% of the time, and the game is just unplayable against a good Yasuo, it blocks their poke and they have to waste all their mana to farm, cause if they try to use Autos to farm, Yasuo can just dive them, block their combo and deal massive sustained damage, give 1 single kill to a good Yasuo and your lane is OVER.

Exactly, well written Im a 2,5million Zilean main

Same, it's actually surprising how few people want to play the role

No one wants to get blamed for not being every spot at just the right time. I love playing mumu or rammus jng but if everything isn't perfect someone always complains

For a while Jungle was popular, between it being some kind of additional support early in LoL and what it is now. I used to be main jungle and support second role, because it was a safe role to fall back on when I didn't get jungle. Nowdays I'm Support main, so I only get flamed by one person. Also because Riot changed most of my Jungle champs or flat out removed them (old Aatrox) and I don't feel comfortable playing champs like Kayn, Viego etc.

@@MadIIMike if you liked old attrox, you will do fine with trundle and shyvana. Also if you're supporting, maokai jungle still works the same way it did back in the day

The thing no one wants to admit: They call the role broken but if no one in the META defined MOBA is abusing the role, chances are its overhyped and no one wants to be the butt of everything in a match.

Being honest I had never listen to someone said the last part, and I don't even know a context were being a master of one is worst than a jack of all trades, like even in real life most of the people I know have jobs for being a master of one and jack of all trades are constantly rejected for being "overqualified"

@@sareku8491 Basically would you rather have stress and responsibility but also have job security, or would you rather have a specialized set of skills that makes you valuable yet replaceable in the workforce? Jacks are good at balancing spreadsheets while Johns are good at practical issues that Jacks over simplify on paper. Jacks organize, Johns do the work.

@@sareku8491 Being a master of one is useful if you can get that job, but don't forget you are on a planet with BILLIONS of other people to compete with. Of course how much competition there is for each job massively varies, but also guess it depends on the era you using that. I'm sure back when it was first coined, a jack of all trades could be considered amazing. They could handle many tasks at a competent or maybe slightly above competent level which is enough for most tasks back then. Either way both ways to interpret the saying has their merits.

I can totally relate. I love Taliyah. From her voice, personality, brown skin representation and the fact that she is not your average female league model. I dont care that she gets outranged or classed by multiple other mages. I love her fun and quick playstyle. Luckily for me she rarely gets picked or banned but i do have other mages i can play.

@@joranvanolphen9892 I love Poppy’s characters and voice lines, all good positive vibes.

Exactly this.... But try to make the "You CaNT haVE fUN" "TaKE the GamE sErIOusLY" type of guys here, to understand that.

@@Foxtrotwolf Thankfully I really don’t run into them honestly. I thought there would be more of those types.

@@rookie4582 Well you're partially right, since of course they're not complaining in the same satiric way I'm exposing. There's is kinda lot of people here complaining about how others like to play the game. Which is irrelevant. But yeah, I get it.

RIGHTT and when u tell ppl ur just bot interested in the pressure of ranked the reactions can be so weird sometimes! like? isnt it better for you, the ranked player, if someone who isnt into it stays away??

I believe that outside the ranked queue, everyone has the right to do whatever they want (within the rules of the game, of course). If a person takes the game seriously, and not as a way to have an fun, he should go to ranked. Of course, this rule should work in the opposite case, if you don't take the game seriously (I'm talking about people who ff 15 as well), then you shouldn't go to ranked.

your 100% correct. its like those mobile game ads where the person in the ad brags about being lvl 9000 in some arbitrary in game thing expect people ACTUALLY take it seriously. lets be real here, riot doesnt even listen to ANYONE in the player base. it is specifically things that happen in pro matches and numbers that gets riots attention. "oh XYZ champ has bad winrate but we want to sell skins for it, buff XYZ a (very liberal) bit"

@@petrusv8752 omg I never realized it before. The league community is literally one of those ads that's amazing

your opinion just shows youre low elo, get good before trying to have an opinion. show opgg or dont give opinion jokes aside, i agree with your point

Get the quote right at least

@@ruankuck3332 what is the right quote? I know what he's going for but I honestly forgot it. was it a punch? I know it was something like that.

​@@ColetheFlame01Its something along the line of the man who knows 10000 kicks

I fear not the man who practiced 10000 kicks once but the man who practiced 1 kick 10000 times

@@sabin1999 thank you. also that sounds like Lee Sin not gonna lie haha.

But at the same time, don't fking 1st time things like Azir, Akali, Zoe, Kalista, K'sante, Draven, Bard, Kindred (and no Ezreal if u don't know how to use basic attacks on him) etc. in ranked, just pick a champ who is atleast kinda stupid proof. (Things like Cait - can't miss aa, Naut - it's fking Naut, Amumu - one of the easiest junglers, etc.) Not knowing every matchup etc is understandable, but alteast use brain when it comes to those thing. Jungle pathing is whole other part, (my jungle pathing sucks after playing for quite a time. It's the only role I suck at, even tho I can kinda understand why junglers do what they do.)

@@jansyrovatka4090 Oh absolutely. That's what normes are for.

That line from Vars really hammered in how many skills and knowledge checks League players take for granted. Even something as “simple” as last hitting minions is going to be difficult for someone who has only played jungle or support, and that’s before throwing the enemy champion(s) into the equation. But these people genuinely expect you to know everything and understand the fine points of any given situation and execute perfectly because you have seen other people do it?

The reality is that you are expected to know how to play other roles, though. You may only want to play your primary and secondary role, but sometimes you get autofilled. If you don't want to grief your team and tank your rank every time you get autofilled, you have to learn how to play every role at least decently. Will it be worse than your primary and secondary? Of course. But it's still a decent grasp on it. Dota 2 works the same way. You have 50 role queue tokens starting out when you first start playing ranked. You can queue Mid, Offlane, Carry, Support and Hard Support. Every game you play, you lose one token. If you queue the in demand roles (which is always Support and Hard Support), you won't lose tokens. You gain 4 tokens for queueing every role and winning, 2 tokens for losing. What ends up happening, for a majority of players, is they will queue their preferred core role (Mid, Offlane or Carry) until they get low on tokens, then spend the next 20-30 games queueing every role (which usually lands them in Support or Hard Support) in order to get tokens back. This is a system that makes it guaranteed for you to be placed in every role, similar to League. You need to learn how to play every role, at least decently. Refusing to learn roles you get autofilled for just makes worse on your team and harder on yourself.

@@Rasea611 asking for players(especially ones who play more casually or have limited time to play) to learn every single role is asking for too much. The game is too big, the variables are too many, and the champions are too complicated for that. tokens and bogus system not required to correctly match players, especially not with how many concurrent players play both games.

@@ParisHart-ij8vf Casual players often don't play ranked, so it's not as big of an issue there. Normal games is more understandable for that kind of thing. But it's just the nature of the game for ranked. Learning how to play every role should be expected, and it is with how autofill (and tokens in the case of Dota 2) works. It's also just better long term anyway. For example, someone that plays ADC mainly that learns to play support will have a stronger understanding of support roam timings, a better understanding of aggression and ideal trades, of the limits of supports in general. The more you understand the other roles, the more it helps you because you don't have to hope they do things that benefit you.

@@Rasea611 no, I said “more casual players” not “causal players”. Not everyone who played league sits there for 12-13 hours a day playing. Your other points are irrelevant and are largely speculatory.

And every single one of their picks are subpar and make the most obvious mistakes because they don't play that champ.

Absolutely agree. Why should I be forced to play other champions/roles if I only have the most amount of fun with one specific champion and perform well with it as well?

it's called strategy, lol.

@@TheFirstEmbecause sometimes ur champ gets banned or picked first and now what? Ur not gunna be having fun and ur throwing the game. Also a problem I got with my friends is that I can’t play roles I’m best at because 2 of my friends can ONLY play mid and support forcing me to go adc, jungle or too. I’m not terrible at any of those but I can’t always play with my friends because I don’t ONLY wanna go those roles. Even in aram if they don’t get any of the 3 that they know how to play they are not only essentially throwing but they are already titled (just how they are not all). We try to urge them to learn other champs and roles but they refuse.

@@toasterhothead3312 you just dodge the game instead of wasting everyones time

@@notme2966 cool, still wasted some time but still better…but like…why not learn a different role and different champions…also that doesn’t work if u wanna play with other people. If I’m playing with some friends and I don’t get mid or support (my main 2 roles) they’ll never be able to play.then again i guess that was my mistake cause I decided to ACTUALLY enjoy league as much as possible to it’s full extent. Plus u can discover champs u didn’t know could even go in support, like Orianna, Shaco, etc. or u didn’t know ur main champ could work at top (Akali, soraka (for some seasons), Lillia etc. but hey if u wanna continue to waste peoples time because change is scary then ok buddy.

I feel like plat and below mid just plays way differently than higher elo, just 1v1 and pushing as fast as possible. Tell me, how often u see low elo mid rotate and roam with some real plan (invading jungle with jungler after push, crossmaping when enemy makes pick, actually placing ward near enemy top buff - small but valuable thing, etc) and not totally randomly running around, confused like someone who 1st times Aphelios without knowing a thing about him? I feel like that's the difference and I think as a sup player u are used to track both enemy jng and mid, just because they could pay u a visit in botlane? Even more looking at these things if u roam.

@@jansyrovatka4090 yeah good point there. Roaming without a plan is one of the big weaknesses. That and trading while farming at the same time.

​@@jansyrovatka4090 it's mechanics too honestly outside of a few exceptions it is ridiculously easy to abuse mid laners lack of mechanical skill in low elo. They genuinely are worse at csing then most adc and top laners let alone trading while actually securing last hits. Plus wave manipulation, because the short lane makes it much more forgiving if the enemy freezes or sets up a slow push on you most don't seem to have the knowledge of how it functions until higher elos. I have seen so many mids fuck up good freezes or not slow pushing to base if they have the opportunity because they genuinely didn't know better. Pair that with bad or brain dead roams and they are hilariously easy to exploit. I have won so many autofilled games mid where I shove roam get a kill or objective and wander back to lane to see that the full health and mana enemy had very curteously set up a freeze for me just outside of tower while they tried to roam on a cc heavy botlane at full health under their own tower. It might just be bias but midlaners as a whole seem to be one of the more elo inflated roles in low elo carried by high burst and enemy knowledge and mechanicle skill being too low to exploit their bad decision making. Because let's be real we all suck. 😅

Yeah, I still wonder why Riot won't do that. Nothing to lose, good for everyone. If some one can play 3 or 4 role, why do they need to stuck with 2 role or getting auto fill in the role that they can't play at all.

The problem with choosing your own roles and not getting autofilled isn't that it will lead to longer queue times for you - there's no problem with that, actually. The issue is that it will lead to much longer queue times for everyone, even players who can do 3-4 roles assuming the role they don't pick is the least popular one. Assuming there's no autofill, in order to start a match you'd need to have a support and adc (least popular roles) to queue up, while competing with many mid/top/jgl players who have also queued up at the same time. And while sure, the game quality will probably be much higher since you don't have off-role players, you'd also be looking at 2-4x queue times across all elos.

Nah, i think riot should remove the role system and just let everyone fight for the role they want. When there are enough games end up with 3 top and open bot lane, we can get twisted treeline back

Do it do it do it do it! It's worth it! As an OTP Fiddle myself, I can say is worth make the enemy team paranoic every time you have your Ult is up!

he doesnt get banned very often and can be flexed into supp, hes not the worst otp choice

if its jungle fiddle then i think its ok to OTP bc no one wants it so youll never be contested for that role/youll never be taking that role from someone else

Try it out man. Worst comes to worst you go learn someone new! There's zero downside to *STARTING* as an OTP. If you OTP two champs into Mastery, you'll still know both champs if you pick up a third

Do it, he's nearly never banned and you'll get jungle every game. I'm also a fiddle otp, got from Bronze to Plat last season and to Emerald this season. I had to play a different champ ONCE over the course of over 300 games

Balancing around high-elo is fine... until Riot release tons of new champion that cannot be countered by other champion in the same role or require intensive knowledge or teamwork to counter.

Tbh, there are tons of games that I just lose because some people /mute all by default.

@@poom323 Yeah, I honestly find it sad that the community is so toxic to the point that some people don't even bother and remove all communication from the game relaying so much on teamwork before anyone had any chance to do something because they just assume they will.

The level of depth is not the same to make that a good comparison

@@qballa2787 it's not a matter for depth, it's a matter of the time and effort required to master any craft

Yeah this comparison doesn't work because most medical professionals still have a decent grasp about the body and medicine. A dentist won't be asked to perform surgery (a very high level medical procedure), but they should know human biology and basic interactions within the body itself. This is what it means for being autofilled. You're not expected to perform at the level you play at for your primary and secondary roles, but you are expected to have a decent grasp on what the job of that role is and how to play it. Refusing to learn it just hurts your team and also you in the long run.

You can one trick and still have other champions you can play

@@zeragrogen5129 then its just a main, not an otp

@@zeragrogen5129 "Can", yes, but too many one tricks don't

That is why I 2 trick. 2m Ww, 1m rengar lmaooo

You say that, but you dont complain when you get carried by 1. There is no difference then me playing poorly and you playing poorly. If my 1 trick gets me to the same rank as you then we are the same.​@zeragrogen5129

Happily locks in Shyvana.

I am the rare Yorick otp and its great. I usually only rarely get banned and when I do I had a plethora of champs I was familiar with in the past and can play them, mostly Cho.

@@flowspersonaluploads3528 I ban Yorick lol. I have no idea how to beat Yorick as Poppy even if I bully early or get some ganks.

Otp here , I know I have 2 dodges a day and if it goes beyond that oh well . I can kinda play other champs but I'll typically dodge.

Buddy autofill exists to reduce queue times! Okay imagine youre in queue in rank but you're sitting for 40 mins doing nothing cause no one wants to play support but with autofill it'll cutdown that time by half cause the game can finally start since all 5 roles have players in it!

@@jinsator4616 Would much rather wait 7 minutes to play a 35 minute game with everyone in their desired lanes and actually have a fun, fair game than wait for 3 minutes instead only to get steamrolled for the next 20 minutes because some people have no idea what they're doing.