thanks mate what a g

ok

I knew there was gonna be a NORD VPN ad right there lmao

VPNs are scams anyway. Don't buy them. Everything KZfaqrs say in their ads promoting them is blatantly false.

I was gonna say all these people can't read the top comment but you posted this 52 seconds ago lol

I got an ad ? :(

First, use an AdBlock for your own good. Second, he probably meant an ad read from Ludwig. (See pinned comment)

i think you meant sensitive

adblocker ftw

@@yololinsken3045 which is good? i had one but it been detected

Good, sir, you must have Mogul mail mistaken for Ludwig that’s not Ludwig

@@nox7796Real

i have a local jiffy lube and i thought it was something worse sob

doc's goal for the lawsuit was to get paid. he got paid. he won.

@@darkcnight he didnt "win" in the way people, especially doc, is claiming. he didnt "prove" nothing bad happened, the settlement just proves twitch didnt want to go to court over the allegations. this could be for any amount of reasons, like not wanting discovery to happen because theyd need to make public a lot of internal emails relating to partner program talks and how twitch whispers operate as a system, not wanting public knowledge that their contracted biggest streamer was sexting a minor on the service during a period of major competition in the space, or just wanting him on a NDA and gone. any, or a combination of those, is easily worth millions to Amazon. and we all know how much Amazon cares about actual childrens safety for the "why wouldnt amazon go to court to protect the child" thing.

​@zackestin1368 so you'd willingly hand over a fuck ton of cash just to not have to deal with court, even if you knew you had a great case?? You are delusional if so. We can't know anything for sure. I hate that people feel the need to speculate on things that aren't their business and they are almost entirely ignorant about.

​@@zackestin1368Yes but if they went to court Doc's dirty laundry would come out too, if he really groomed a minor no amount of money would make up for what would be, effectively, a career killer, not to mention what would come after. Also if Twitch had proof of a crime and they didn't report it that's also a crime in and on itself, it seems like a lot to risk to protect patents that aren't exactly top secret.

​@zackestin1368 you don't know shit from Apple butter about the lawsuit/settlement just like the rest of us.

Its been 5 years

@@everythingpony even worse 😔

Covid onwards is just a blur lol

The Wii is 18 year old. Feel old yet?

​@@swankshire6939I don't even want to ask how old the n64 is 😂

depp vs amber and Disney ? happens alot

Are u kidding? Biggest scumbags are these companies

@@shadowdragon9761Puhleaze. Depp did that crap he just had a good lawyer. Even if he didn’t, Disney had credible allegations and a legal claim.

@@conundrum60690actually braindead

​@@conundrum60690cope

and now we know💀

@@sardjentpepper8897there’s still no proof but yeah it’s not looking good

Be surprised what people emotions would result in.

@@cingsing986 Doc just admitted be was messaging a child...

@@tensemurm5924 He did?! Link source?

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@@Muza1616 sponsorblock stays on top

He cut it out (as said in the pinned comment)

fr

Agreed. If he's trying to manipulate public perception in this way, it really hurts his credibility

He was banned 2 days after Twitch released a statement about taking action on illegal activity in reference to the Twitch #metoo situation.

​@@Dracna9fr like nono I didn't get fired I quit

I'll tell you one fact. Either way, Cody has dropped himself in a whole barrel of shite!

Doc is disappointed, him quitting for a while is understandable. It's so lame, watching these youtubers claim that it's "a bad joke" what Cody said, when they would sue immediately if they were in his shoes.

where did he admit to it? Legitimately curious, I'm all for innocent until proven guilty but if there's something concrete that's over with.

⁠@@kaleidoscope6043 here is the part of his tweet where he admits it: “(…) Were there twitch whisper messages with an individual minor back in 2017? The answer is yes. Were there real intentions behind these messages, the answer is absolutely not. These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were committed, I never even met the individual. I went through a lengthy arbitration regarding a civil dispute with twitch and that case was resolved by a settlement. Let me be clear, it was not a criminal case against me and no criminal charges have ever been brought against me. (…)”

@@cheesymation "twitch whisper messages = sexting 🤓🤓" :- some brain dead haters.

@@divyansh2890 "some brain dead haters." pedo supporters 🤣😭

@@divyansh2890 Hi so you’re justifying docs actions? He admitted he started “going to far” and “leaning towards too far of a direction” via dming a minor and knew this person was a child/under age? May I see your DM’s?” How many kids are you whispering so much that its “LEANING TOWARDS TOO FAR”? Please show me. Disgusting POS.

twitch only laid off 40% of its staff this year, which frees them from a lot of things saying twitch cant talk about things.

​@@zackestin1368 Nothing can keep you from reporting crimes. There is no legal basis for an NDA keeping you from reporting crimes, sexting minors is a crime. If it's true, all of these people "that knew" are complicit, not strictly legally speaking, but socially? Fuck them.

The real answer is NDA. It expired and now people are talking about it.

Because they sat on the info and someone leaked it as a whistleblower

If Twitch really believed something of the kind that is being alleged happened, they had to report it to authorities or they are no better than the alleged perpetrator. So either they are as unethical as they claim Doc is or there was nothing in violation of law there. Period. You can't have an NDA that stops you from reporting crimes that a party commits. That would be an illegal contract.

They do when police get involved

They don’t care unless the name is as big as docs. Also twitch and discord communicate with eachother on stuff like this.

So they banned him for no reason???

​@@lobocharityso then why were there no police reports? You know that is public, right?

@unlisted9494 The dude is rich and was also keeping it hush-hush with Twitch. Besides, like he said, they kept this under wraps, and "he was found not to be in the wrong." There still isn't a lot of proof, but the fact his own company drops him, and his whole reactions to this have been red flags to me.

The more comments I read, the more that is made Crystal clear. As well as not knowing, that an NDA can't compel you to be silent/cover up a criminal offense.

and if they banned him before he committed the actual crime... legally he would be in the right to get his contract paid out... kinda seems like twitch is the unsung hero here

​​@@LoFiAxolotl if all this is true which I think it is, Docs reaction on stream said everything to me, then Twitch for once handled something very very well

@@drumusic5665 i think twitch handles quite a lot really well... we just remember the things we disagree with... don't get me wrong... they are an absolute shit show most of the time...

@@LoFiAxolotl 1. sexting a minor and attempting to meet up is still a crime, so there would have been a crime commited if true. 2. not if there is a morality clause in the contract which most contracts like those would have where the contract holder (twitch) could terminate any contract if the person in question does something the holder would find breaks their morals. assuming that, if twitch broke the contract for that reason they wouldn't have to pay out any amount. if doc did do this then dont praise twitch for being silent while a crime involving a minor was happening.

According to the person who claimed the allegations in the first place, which was right in the end regardless of how shady he was being, said that Twitch staff could read it in plain text.

cope harder lol

@@yol_n that’s actually what happened to my knowledge

@@wolfiemuse I'm responding to the other guy. Of course they can read their messages

@@yol_n I didn’t see any other messages, they must have been deleted or something

Based. Turn over any rock where grooming is a threat and people crawl out insisting there's nothing wrong with a 26 year old talking to a 18 year old. Apologists run rampant for scenarios wherein it's legal but when you think about it why would such a platonic relationship even be perused you can sense them gooning.

The claim wasn't that he was just texting a minor though, the claim is that they were sexting

@@Screm well If there is evidence of that then it’s enticement and 100% illegal. But even if it’s just communicating a “meetup” that wouldn’t be legally clear enough to pursue. And predatory behavior from a legal perspective is unfortunately obscure even when it’s morally, clearly not okay. This is why it’s been such a hot mess with SA accusations in the public space. Because people’s Morals and Law don’t agree. Law tends to fall short of moral standard.

@@Heycasualman If you know what sexting is and have done it before (I have, i'm not really ashamed of it) you'd know how explicit it can be, there may not have been pictures exchanged but in the context of it being sexting that's almost the same thing, and it's not just "This is what imma do to you" it can be full on storyline type we are doing this type stuff

but the one that commited the crime is the one paying, not the one paid (like in this case)

@@superhudson97 I’m just saying that you can settle in court on almost anything. Pretty sure what Twitch and Doc settled on is the payment of the rest of his contract, but we don’t know for sure really until we see anything.

@@superhudson97 Does that not give more credence to him not doing it? Like, I won't make any judgement without evidence but this seems too odd to be just "he did it and they are covering it up!" it doesn't make much sense.

You obviously don't understand the difference between Civil and Criminal Court like the rest of the internet.

@@youngrootv Likely sued for his contract, not due to the allegations. His contract payout probably didn't have this type of content within it and thus there was probably some legal loopholes he was able to go through. The whistleblower said it was in plain text, however that can easily be a gray zone. If its true, like most pedos, they're smart to be vague with what they say in order to protect themselves.

thats not evidence apparently, according to Mogul 12:42

SHE WAS 17.5 YOU MOONSTER!11!1!

Perfect example of why “innocent until proven guilty in a court of law” is a terrible way to personally judge people. It doesn’t matter if it’s not enough evidence for the American legal system to convict him of a crime, anyone with eyes and a brain can see that shit and know exactly what it means.

@@agaga5886 That's right. 6 months later, and it's all fair, and no one is a ped0 no more.

i think ludwig just hasnt seen that video lmao

Tbh i didn't like Ludwig and now that this hypocrite behavior of not talking about cody n kris really puts a nail in the coffin

what has happened?

@@ThisHandleIsTakenTryThis He (DrDisrespect) admitted on twitter that he was in fact sending inappropriate messages to minors via the twitch whisper messages thingy.

@@SpazamsTV ya the feeling of going from watching this video, commenting what happened, and then seeing the worse self report in history is something.

Its literally the pinned comment dummy

I also think so, would be weird for him to mention ISPs like that otherwise

Top comment that is pinned says it was removed yeah

@@rickvandam3238 the commenter is aware, they literally say "the ad read that he removed", which shows they know there was an ad, and that it was removed. The speculation was in what type of ad it was.

but he got the point about the privacy issues tho

Gay

@@christiansantamaria7233 duh bro it’s pride month

You only have to be like 13 or something on twitch tho. I don’t think twitch verifies if anyone’s an adult. Unless you add a credit card for subs or something but idk.

Well now, that's a very nice theory and it would explain a lot of what and why things happened. I too thought about the possibly along those lines, as a girl was saying she was 18 and was 17

I have seen this theory being passed around today, it make sense. If there is a settlement, it might be that Twitch or even Cody Conners might be in some legal trouble for breach of the settlement, depends on that his exit documents look like at Twitch. If you knew confidential company data, especially about users, most company have you sign a paper that you don't release that type of information.

@@-Jarvis- yeah i don't know what TOS was then either as I'm sure it changes all the time. But if the "meet at twitchcon" is a real thing then I'm leaning towards a creator/ streamer who is verified then just some fan. IF they misrepresented their age then Doc is sort of clear of the whole "underage thing" I would guess. Also if age was brought up and they lied its why Doc never was charged with any type of crime. I think Twitch did something wrong that lead to all this coming out which is why Doc would win a wrongful termination lawsuit.

@@-Jarvis- Yeah man I think Midnight Society kicking him says more than the tweets. They pretty much had to confirm with Twitch and Twitch is liable to admit the reason of his departure. This is really damming.

He did since then send a comment after saying that there was one planned but moved it to another video so you definitely were right lmao

@Gooddaynice648 I can't believe I fell for this 😭😭

​@DinnerMuffin shame

I love when people put ads in their videos so I can skip them without waiting 15 seconds to skip it

​@@DinnerMuffin listen, we're not mad. just disappointed...

If he didn't do anything, he'd flat out say it...the fact that he's not means he's afraid of legal repercussions down the line....which means he did something 😂

Having studied psychology for over 15 years I can confidently say that he displays the appropriate amount of distancing for a situation that he had already resolved and put behind him. As someone studying psychology, you should know what occurs when a traumatic event reoccurs. There isn’t any information that suggests he did anything. In fact, the information provided shows that he did nothing. Twitch assumed he did, when it was initially brought to court, they realized their error and decided it would be cheaper to pay out his contract and have him sign an NDA than it would to be dragged through the mud in a wrongful termination suit and then, inevitably, a defamation suit. All that being said, it’s speculation on my part as well. But from a psychological standpoint his response is warranted as his reputation is, once again, being tarnished on unfounded allegations that he can no longer legally comment on. It’s a fight he already won and here he is again, having to face it, but without any teeth due to his NDA with Twitch. And the little garbage human beings running around screaming allegations for clout, with no evidence, are feeling no pressure whatsoever.

@@JamezGrimm this is literally all speculation lol also I'm almost positive you're lying about studying psychology if you're reaching this hard to defend Dr. Kids Inspect

@@JamezGrimm Well your comment aged like milk and now you look like a pedo defender lmao.

I started skipping forward thinking there was a sponsor and everything 😭

there was ludwig posted a comment but didnt pin it for some reason

Lol this is pure speculation but I think he was gonna have a sponsor and then realized that it would probably be insensitive to put one on a video of this topic lol

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@@Lutyrannuscorrect, the pinned comment he posted basically says this exact thing :)

But it was Doc suing and he said he got everything, they might have sued Twitch for more due to the damage in public image, but they setteled on the original full amount to not drag it any longer cause it is really hard to prove that and it is not uncommon that they sue for more then the aimed amount.

It absolutely means that lawsuit was successful!!! Settlement means that Twitch haD nothing and would 100% lose the case. Christ, you people straight up just make your own stuff up because you want somebody to be guilty. Its disgusting. Too many people got charged with crimes they didnt commit because they were mean looking or worse, mean looking black man....... and still you just wish allegation to be true with no evidence.

@@Zoltan1251 It doesn't mean that at all. Settlements are reached all the time in cases where one side has a solid defense. Malpractice cases, for example, settle not-infrequently because of the risk and cost, even when there's little to no factual basis for the claim. If the cost of the settlement is less than the cost of litigation, brand risk, possible payout (because there is very rarely such a thing as a slam dunk), it's not at all uncommon to settle, *even when you are in the right*.

@@sydneys207defense wouldn’t settle when they have such damning evidence as suggested by Midnight dropping doc, other brands dropping, Conners holding Doc’s sexting a minor out as fact, etc. Promise you that. They have a case and would have at least gone through mediation. Settling would allow assumptions favoring Doc, and the lack of damning evidence

Considering he admitted it, obviously they did. Chances are, they settled because the risks of this getting to court are high. People finding out their capabilities regarding the whisper product, people finding out more about some of the deals involved, the case being in the headlines for months as it drags on. Instead, pay some money to make it go away, and then you can control the terms of the deal. Civil suits sometimes aren't anything to do with the truth or what can be proven. Sometimes, the costs and risks of trial are just not worth "winning".

That’s a good point

What I don’t understand is that this happened four years ago so now all of a sudden the company doesn’t want to work with him? Additionally, if a minor was involved, the information would be hidden. Sounds like a load of bullshit , You’re telling me one of the biggest incidents in life streaming history and they are just now finding out what happened? Sounds like they are listening to new allegations

@@devonwilliams2423 Crazy how some dude literally used the controversy of Doc getting banned as a self-promote but we're supposed to take his word for it

im a big fan of lawtube and i watch a lot of court coverage and truer words have never been spoken lolol

is that really the main thing this demonstrated?

Personally I think it’s also a look at how many people don’t understand NDA’s… you cannot talk about them full stop. You can’t confirm or deny anything at all. Someone could ask “did twitch fire you because you are secretly a Martian from the planet zorgon?” And he would still, legally, have to answer “I can neither confirm nor deny” or some other nothing answer. If someone came out making *other* separate allegations, he couldn’t defend *those* either.

Exactly. And there’s no way in hell there’s anything legal wise that’s keeping him from straight out saying “ I didn’t sext a minor.” Like that’s literally all he had to say. 5 words.

@@RoninRose541 Okay first off the second part is COMPLETELY wrong. You have no idea what the NDA he signed covers so how tf are you gunna say " And there’s no way in hell there’s anything legal wise that’s keeping him from straight out saying “ I didn’t sext a minor.” " You are brain dead.

He 100% did what, and where is the proof? Twitch banning someone is NOT proof of anything.

@wittyedge Yes, it is definitely proof. This isn't a court of law and I am not brain damaged. A business isn't going to throw away a multimillion dollar property over night because somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed. Where there is smoke there is fire, and twitch dropping somebody like that in the way they did is a cloud of smoke you could see across the Pacific.

I hope none of you dorks end up on any jury lmfao

Surely a twitch contract would have clauses that would render it void if certain clauses are breached. Twitch TOS outlines reasons why your license can be terminated, though not exactly the same, it would have something similar in the contract. If what he was accused of was true, then what grounds would he have to sue? let alone win? Here's my theory: Twitch falsely banned Doc due to "evidence" provided through chatlogs. As a result of the ban, he loses a lot of money from potential sponsors/deals, twitch subs etc. He sues Twitch, twitch doesn't want people knowing they read users chatlogs, decide to settle favouring Doc. I could also be 100% wrong but it's my current position.

@@Sherlock_Holmeless3818 so why would twitch get rid of one of there top English speaking streamers for not enough evidence? To me it’s seems more likely that they did receive some convincing evidence and went ahead with the termination. If there was no evidence at all he would have actually won the judgment not just a settlement or filed a lawsuit against twitch which he hasn’t done either. Edit: twitch is pretty open about being able to read chat logs so are most social media companies so I doubt they were terrified that would come out lol.

@@jigbuuls2322 you raise valid questions that I don’t have answers to, interesting tings, I’m gonna let the big brains solve it and add my updated 2 cents after lol

@@jigbuuls2322 twitch is known for banning male streamers for the most trivial things...

@@Sherlock_Holmeless3818 if twitch banned him before he met up with the minor and if he wasn't explicit in the messages... they had no breach of contract... morally they would've been in the right to end his contract but legally there'd be plenty to grab onto to get it paid out

a late lunch

​@@lukeeIRL It's called time zones

@@lukeeIRL extremely late lunch

Where are you from, New Zealand?

Bro its 2:51 am wfym lunch😭💀

yeah it still feels weird to have ER in the background of all these recent dramas

Yeah more like Youngin Ring Tuesdays

@@Phlegm187”Talk to Teens Tuesday”

Charlie's theories are often not great

Charlie spends most of his time both sidesing everything which can sometimes work out well but often leaves him carrying water for some of the worst people on the internet.

Yeah that makes way more sense than this bs especially since we know doc has a conscience after his cheating thing that he himself revealed on stream bro literally cried on stream cuz his marriage was falling apart you really think he’s out cheating again and with a child on twitch people are stupid but this don’t make no sense at all and the whole oh we heard from multiple sources that this was the alleged reason even that has no weight whos to say someone isn’t lying and telling everyone and defaming him for personal reasons or just cuz they are losers with no life twitch people are already weirdos imo I wouldn’t trust them for shit and you know they don’t care about women look what they do on stream and get a 1 day ban when if a guy did it they perma for life and anyone they talk to

But that woulnd't explain the Discord ban, or why 4 years later his own company feels the need to cut ties with him.

@@tlsgrz6194cancel culture and twitch is heavily invested in discord

read the pinned comment

someone dosent use sponsorblock

Lmao which community is brigading? Its literally the pinned comment and your dumbass had to scroll down here to type out your comment anyway so how did you not see it?

To be fair, everyone always takes these things at face value

His actions kinda sus and makes it seem more true. It's like he's seen what evidence is out now and he's leaving before everyone finds out to troll him and fuck with him.

@@user-zw4xz2mc2q i mean its just sus all around we've seen no evidence and the guy making the claims is also trying to sell the proof for money which is fucking wild. Imagine holding proof of grooming because you aren't getting paid enough yet for it

@@user-zw4xz2mc2q To be fair, I'm not sure how I'd handle allegations like that even if they were false. Everyone hanging on every word you said, most people assuming your guilty. Might be safest to step away. Love the pfp btw.

He's probably sick of the social media bs.

@user-br6ve4lz6n I'd just go on with my day like nothing is going on if it wasn't true. If it's all false why let it bother u? It's definitely bothering him and why drop him from a company if they don't have proof. I'd say they got proof sent the facts to him on stream and he insta left. How I see it.

This must be it. At least for this case, not sure about other possible incidents, but I guanrantee you more allegations will come out now.

Yea I was thinking this exactly. I mean it's got to be bad if discord also kicked him

@@iamcage187 turned out it is basically what happened. Doc just confirmed it

the doc 😟

@@ladlikelucasnot that one thankfully, im a minor that would not be safe

This isnt lud, its mogul mail

@@lknight1266 sorry my bad they just both look the same (french) so its easy to get them confused

me when uhmmm me whennn me when uhhhh i love my gf

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There was but lud removed it since he wants to put it in a less serious video.

imagine typing "would of" in 2024 💀💀

@@vixantenna the language police is out lmao

@@tolticolanguage police are* out

hes fine hes suing cody and he won the lawsuit with twitch

​@@rigormortis3219he didn't win the lawsuit, they settled out of court and no one admitted to wrong doing

@@rigormortis3219 you straight up don't know what you're talking about lmao. bye kid

Tbh, if I threaten to take someone to court, and they settle by giving me a ton of money, that's pretty much an automatic W (conceding failure) in court without papers being released. What's twitch scared of hiding? If you've done NO wrong, settling outta court always suspicious

​@rigormortis3219 He was banned 2 days after Twitch released a statement about taking action on illegal activity in reference to the Twitch #metoo situation.

NDA already took place? Also the lawsuit is over? Wdym?

@@MJ-vv7ys I believe they are different forms I can't say that i know much but even if a case is over it all depends on the agreements that both parties made honestly only the lawyers know the ins and out

@@michaelweird4018 ya but again, nothing is in court. there was never a trial for him doing anything. The only case was for his contract payout. so nothings gonna come out from a case that doesnt exist. He prob did that shit tho. and itd be nice to get closure. if anything i think the girl in question would have to come out

@@quinsey9211 thing is if he DID do it and all that info was brought up in the law suit he probably wouldn't have gotten payed if he was in the wrong, not to mention if he did something like that, even if he DID get payed anyways the state would be after his ass and that lawsuit would've turned into a full blown case against him

Dude is a pedo. He wouldn't act like this if it wasn't true.

And now Ava Kris Tyson

​@@antherny1069 literally 5 hours after you said this he spoke up about it, give the guy time to make a video. I will say though, in the newer video he does mention cody co being awful.

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oh lord is this gonna turn into the streamer's version of "this is gonna ruin the tour"

@@bisousethiboux What Tour?

@@allliabdull6100 the world tour

Content creators dont give a fuck about what product they're shilling for as long as they get the money. VPNs don't make you any safer from the internet, but since these fucks can't get wait to get their grubby little hands on the dollar bills they'll say whatever the fuck the contract tells them to.

Totally. These VPN ads are getting more and more obnoxious.

ehhh... i mean easy enough to get around HTTPS encryption... but between a VPN and ISP... the ISP has billions of dollars to spend on lawyers if the police comes knocking... VPNs are tiny companies run by morons on false promises... if the police comes knocking they give them whatever they want

If you're on public wifi though, that traffic can all be seen, thus needing a VPN

@@archive7078 using a VPN only shifts WHO can see your traffic... not IF someone can see it... it's your decision who you trust more... a VPN or ISP... and while you're on a public wifi anyone with some basic knowledge of network infrastructe connected to that network can see exactly what you're doing

1. I imagine they would have said they were under 18, caught by parents, or tried to catfish doc and reported the conversation themselves, otherwise no one would know they are a minor. 2. He used that wording because that was the wording in the court case if I remember correctly 3. He didn't win, they settled, which seems to happen often to speed up the process and I assume the settlement amount was the same as his contract. Some speculate they settled to protect the child's identity, but we'll never know if that's true. The fact they settled and said "no wrong doing was found" allows him to say just that. It's not proof he is innocent or not. 4. This is fair, it does make his claim more questionable but Slasher also saying "I didn't lie", who is a journalist and former twitch employee, in addition to other former twitch employees makes the claim more credible in my mind. 5. This is a fair point. Not sure how much of that falls into the hands of those who are calling it out, but I don't particularly trust companies to do the right thing, but this is a good point. 6. If they believed doc was innocent I think the worst thing for them to do is get rid of him, its probably going to kill the game. I've seen what they've made, it's already not great, and without doc I don't think they have a leg to stand on. I would argue he was the main driving point to get into the game. 7. I mean hasn't doc gone through several other controversies that he just shrugged off? I haven't kept up with him so I'm not sure how he handled it when he cheated on his wife. Also not all celebrities get jail time for illegal activities, the fact they have money means they hold a lot of power, and this case was so hush hush in the details he could get away with it. Also, suing for defamation, and especially winning, is likely nearly impossible considering he basically has to prove what they are saying is factually incorrect. However, him taking a break due to this means there would be economic damages so maybe he's planning to do that. 8. You're asking humans, very emotional creatures, take an unbiased look at this especially when it involves children? That's a big ask and does not mean you are immoral, unethical, or unintelligent and claiming such basically makes you sound like an ass and a hypocrite because you're literally judging other people throughout your entire post... So by your own code you "lack morals, ethics and general intelligence".

​@@Evelaraevia 1. That's the issue though the fact is we don't know if it even happened in the first place and if it did we don't know how things went with how the age thing came about the fact that the TOS is apparently that one has to be age 13 to create an account can make it even more difficult to know whether or not they were of legal age or not. I'd argue with how often Streaming can lead to grooming and parasocial issues that allowing anyone under the age of 18 on the site is a massive issue. 2. That makes sense, keeping to the legalese is the best thing to do in this scenario as any change of the language either way could get him in trouble with the NDA. 3. True, I was more or less stating the views of the situation from his side on this in that because they settled and he was paid out his contract that that can be considered a win for him. That said the clarification for it to be noted as a settlement is good as it doesn't necessarily dictate wrongdoing on either parties side. 4. I'd argue only against the idea that because Slasher is a former twitch employee themselves and a journalist doesn't necessarily show that he is a good or bad actor either - often now in modern times it seems more of these "journalists" are biased and lack journalistic integrity - I'd argue as well the fact that Slasher is a former employee as well doesn't necessarily give them credibility as well especially as we have seen over the years a complete bias in how Twitch employees have gone about dealing with partners and people applying for partnership. In this case I'd rather listen to Twitch's legal team and or executives on this then people who have either been fired or left the company as just because they worked at the company doesn't necessarily mean they knew the facts on the situation and could simply be repeating rumors that were spread within the company. 5. nothing much to add to this on my side. 6. It was a no win situation imo, whether they kept him or got rid of him they'd receive flack for the decision. Ultimately the allegations are going to destroy the company and the game. 7. I believe the cheating issues he did a similar thing where he left for a while, akin to Miz and Maya leaving when they were accused of covering up SA. I believe the bigger issue with this is the fact that people think that people shouldn't report these things in order to protect the identity and lives of the victims, that mentality is what led to Weinstein and the Catholic Church from being held accountable and further commit assault on people. The defamation bit I would say imo would be more or less based on the allegations themselves leading to the economic damages, IE him losing sponsorships and being let go from Midnight Society. 8. Humans are emotional yes, my statement here was more or less about the asinine speed that people seem to have when it comes to getting a gotcha on people they dislike and or going immediately to the defense of someone they do like, the rest of what I have said here hasn't necessarily been to provide my own opinion on saying he is guilty or innocent as much as providing statements that can lead to questions about the allegations. Judging people and basically sending them into isolated purgatory based off of things one or two people have said with no evidence is infantile just as much as defending someone of the accusations also without proof and the idea that people doing this doesn't show a lack of morals or ethics is an asinine position when it can be clearly argued to be based more on feelings and less on logic. Logic would dictate that while feelings are good and necessary in order to have good morals and ethics the idea that one should only follow those feelings to determine someone's guilt or innocence is a ridiculous idea and therefore anyone who tries to state one way or another someone is guilty or innocent without proof does in fact show a lack of all said including intelligence which includes emotional intelligence. If I sound like an ass I sound like an ass, I don't care I'm stating this based off of a clear understanding of neutrality and this entire post was made in as close to a neutral view as possible. I want to go further into this with a discussion of the roles of a citizen in legal proceedings in terms of being a juror. The entire role of a juror and how they select one is to find neutral people who are not immediately biased on the situation at hand. Of course lawyers try to find ways to get jurors who seem to lean one way or the other but ultimately the role of a juror is one of a neutral person who has to then be swayed to thinking the defendant as either guilty or innocent. So the citizen is supposed to maintain a standing point of neutrality until proven otherwise by the facts and evidence. Deciding guilty or innocent off the rip based solely on an accusation gets one recused and sent home. So once more I'd argue that neutrality as a solid starting ground is the most important stance to take until evidence can be provided to prove one way or the other. And I think people who want guilty or innocent because they either like or hate the person being accused are negligible and childish - for instance Andy Cortez has been very vocally against Doc since the beginning because of his defense of Nick Mercs so much so he even retweeted false things against Doc. He wants it to be true so much because of his hatred and this is dangerous overall for us as a society. You can detest someone you view as an enemy and want their downfall whilst still wanting it to happen through the justice system and with clear evidence.

@@ZhuRan1239 @Evelaraevia this is one of the most civil, interesting, and well spoken discourse I've seen on the internet in decades and I want to thank both of you for it.

@@MajinMexican I wanted to at least attempt to do this as civil as possible and just stick to what we know and what should be known. Whilst my 8th point isn't entirely necessary for the discussion at hand I do think personally that it is important - I feel as if society needs to stop getting so attached to people's personas and or allegations without proof and that historically the people who have believed any allegations without proof become themselves a third entity that exists to sway public opinion and that again historically these have led to lynch mobs and finding cases guilty or innocent because of the massive amount of attention on the situation. Whether people will admit it or not I find that public opinion can be a massively influential thing that can and has swayed jurors and courts before in making their decisions. So in that sense I do have an opinion and that is to be cautious to come to a conclusion on either side without more information to prove the allegations.

​@@ZhuRan1239Is someone just saying they are over 18 enough considering he is a massive celebrity and should know what length fans would go to to speak to him?

he WON because its not true lol

@@rigormortis3219 That's really not guaranteed when we're talking lawsuits for companies as big as Twitch, bud.

Yeah but even if the age of legal consent is 17 or 16 in the jurisdiction, its still illegal to sext online.

@@rigormortis3219he didn’t win. His contract was settled.

He could have sued with the claim that there was a responsible expectation of privacy when using whispers. The police might not have been able to touch it because it'd be considered fruit of the poisonous tree.

NDAs can extend quite far and be VERY broad. You have NO IDEA what the facts of the case is so you have no idea what the NDA can cover to begin with.

That is exactly how it works. They can prevent you from saying literally anything about the company you signed the NDA with, not even their name. As long as it's not used to cover up crime.

Eh it does but you also have to look at Johnny Depp situation. Amber falsely accused him and every industry dropped him and found out he was innocent all along..

@@Jisim33 He admitted it today.

It's out now a day after you posted this comment

If it wasn't based on fact that's the opening for a lawsuit, they would have been fully aware of such when making the decision and statement.

That really doesn’t mean anything though, companies do this all the time

Facts by what standard, cause unless It's publicly available, the term "fact" can just be a case of bias confirmation. Facts can and should be shared, end of discussion.

Or those facts they think are right are fabricated? If it's facts, where is the proof?

@@Glanzern Dr admitted to it, there is your proof, right from the horse's mouth.

Yea he doesn’t seem like a diddler

defamation, not deformation

Even if he is, Cody is intelligent enough to not mention Doc specifically. We know what he means, but in a court of law defamation wouldn't hold, because his lawyers would argue he didn't speak about Doc.

Lol what’s Doc going to sue him for? There’s no point suing someone who doesn’t two dollars to their name. Also the guy is using the situation of ‘sexting a minor’ to promote his band, whether it ends up true or not this twitch dude is a piece of shit too.

Not if an nda were in place that doesn't allow Dr disrespect to speak out against said allegations. With all the proof shown it would be sure Dr disrespect would be in prison. Cody has nda's and company policies protecting him even if it's not spoken about from these so called " slam dunk lawsuits ". Now a days companies will cut policies for saying the word " trump " or anything similar. It's more likely these companies will fire you if you have a higher position as well . Even if it's just hearsay.

yeah few people are stupid enough to give away their entire life for some ticket sales to their shitty band...

People are allowed to form educated opinions based on fact.. this situation will probably never have definitive receipts but it still looks like doc is guilty as hell if you consider even his close friends cutting ties. Luckily I’m allowed to believe this for myself because I’m not a juror presiding over his case !

@@iy2147 Every single "friend" who parted with him said " We assumed his innocence and began speaking with parties involved. And in order to maintain our principles and standards we needed to act and remove ourselves from dr disrespect until the controversy is over with" . Be honest. You just want to hate on dr disrespect even if it was proven he never did anything which is more than likely the scenario according to hard facts and evidence

@@trash6960 I mean i took the statement as "we spoke to the parties involved and didn't like what we found so we're cutting ties," i kinda thought they would've kept working with him if there wasn't some obvious wrongdoing, usually close friends/coworkers don't just immediately burn bridges out of speculation lol

@@iy2147 So other peoples beliefs are your facts? Youre missing one important fact though. He has never been charged with a crime. Sexting a minor is a crime. Why wouldnt he have been charged with a crime if he committed a crime? Also, every time someone famous is accused, their friends will cut ties, mostly just to save their own skin. Even when it later is revealed it was false. They cut ties because they know normies are unhinged and will latch on to everything that even smells of drama. Just look how people treated Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis because they wrote a character letter to the judge handling the Danny masterson case detailing their experience with danny. People got pissed because they spoke the truth and said Danny had always been nice to them.

@@kvasir8931 also you can't go to jail for sexting a minor over twitch whispers which isnt to say he didnt deserve to but that's just not enough evidence, not how the justice system works. I don't know how that isn't obvious to you, if it was every single one of these creepy youtubers and streamers over the years would be behind bars. also i was right he admitted to it bet you feel silly now hehe