The Dutch Army Canteen, Cup and Pouch Review and Demo.

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6 жыл бұрын

Today we are checking out the Dutch Army canteen set and warming up a Dutch Army MRE that my KZfaq friend Martin Outdoors sent to me from the Netherlands. Check out his channel here: / @veldvaardigheden

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@Veldvaardigheden 6 жыл бұрын

Hi John . I am glad you like the kit and the meal you shared with Scott .The kit was standing unused in my garage but I think it is now in the right place . Thanks for mensioning my channel 😊 Again an awesome review and it was nice to watch . Take care and see you in the next one . Greets from the Netherlands !

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much again for sending that package. It will give me years of enjoyment! I haven't been on here very much lately. Sorry about late reply. See you on your next video!

@AquaTech225 5 жыл бұрын

Where can one of these be found anywhere?

@cthulhu6697 4 жыл бұрын

@@AquaTech225 Verestulekka.com ( a surplus site in Finland that sells tons of surplus ) has them, as well as lots of really good gear of the military services of many countries around the world. A lot of American surplus is expensive compared to what it goes for here, since they ship around the world and U.S. military gear is foreign surplus to them, I guess. You can find some really good deals on European, Russian, and various world military gear that would cost a lot more here on Amazon, E-Bay, etc....... Shipping from Finland can be expensive but worth it if buying a lot or find something like that European military ruck you've been looking for more than 10 years for $150 U.S. that costs more than 300 here, for example. Their customer service is excellent and they are a great company to deal with

@geraldross5180 5 жыл бұрын

I’m starting to curse you. I’ve watched numerous episodes of your demos and now you have me starting to collect them. LOL

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Lol! My wife thinks I have a problem. I told her I can stop anytime I want! Thanks for watching my channel!

@hughhughp68 4 жыл бұрын

The closure on the pouch is called Spanish tabs. The top one you feed into the closure bracket first and then feed in the smaller tap. This locks the pouch firmly closed.

@rtk_omar278 3 жыл бұрын

Ohhh ok

@Valerifon1 4 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate and enjoy your videos John. Not only did you go through this excellent kit, but then you took us into the field for a demonstration - very cool! I purchased my first German WW2 surplus mess kit today - I can't wait to get it! Thanks very much! Cheers - Luther

@martinadejaquiz2482 6 жыл бұрын

very nice kit, john. real nice look at the MRE too! nice of mr martin too. really enjoyed & thumbed-up! thank you!

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for watching another one of my videos! You always have nice comments and thumbs up!

@chiosmet 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you John for the nice video .Messing with stoves I found that a setup with a svea swedish army stove with the original swedish windsheild with a conjuction of an M59 german cup is my preffered go to kit.Although I like the simplicity of this kit. But the mentioned above kit is absolutely bulletproof.You can switch to wood if you run out of meths and you can sterilize water if neeeded from placing the canteen directly over the fire. Keep those good videos coming. Already subscribed.

@jacksonteller1337 2 жыл бұрын

Until a few years ago it used to say KL (Royal Army), KLu (Royal Air force) and so on plus the year. But they are now using the same stuff everywhere so they changed it to Ministerie Van Defensie. We are probably going to end up with the DFP camouflage soon but they are now in temporary use due to a mistake during tendering.

@Scoutforlife 6 жыл бұрын

Looks like what they call "all day breakfast" .i like the canteens and cups.yr having great weather looks like peace.

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching another one! Been watching your videos on my TV for the last month but I haven't commented because my TV doesn't have that function and been too busy to remember to comment when I get on my computer. Lol. I'm working too much! See you in the next one!

@spanishunboxinromero6595 6 жыл бұрын

Good job! Thanks for sharing,Paco

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much for watching!

@spanishunboxinromero6595 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks to you John!i am a really gastronómicamente bushcraft fellow! Thanks for your 6/19/2017 video about post WW2 Germán Styles mess kits,thanks for your magnífico video,i have learned very muchas about techical info.And Whats about the french sándwich?I wish you the BEST for you and Beloved people! regards,Paco Romero Martínez

@frankalvarez7387 2 жыл бұрын

Just got my canteen today on the cup has a marking RI 94 and the bottle has a 14 cleaned up the set nicely and got my noodles watching the video right now lol The cup i got has tighter handles they dont move on their own compared to the one you have. Thank you for inspiring me to get i really like it actually!

@thomasbiel7741 4 жыл бұрын

Good gear. Good review. Thank you.

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 4 жыл бұрын

Thomas Biel Thanks for watching!

@sirguy104 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comparison.

@tk7263 6 жыл бұрын

Another great, informative video as always. I know you won’t have this problem in Florida but this past winter I used my LMF spork in single digit weather and snapped it right in half.

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Oh boy... You're right. The weather doesn't get that cold here. Thank God! I would suggest the titanium one but I bet that one isn't nice to use in cold weather either. Thanks for watching my video and for your comment!

@MTwoodsrunner 6 жыл бұрын

Great overview demonstration as always John and you can have my portion!...LOL...taker easy my friend...atb...woods

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks again Woods for watching another one. My work has been keeping me busy so sorry for the delayed reply. Take care and we'll see you next time!

@Lettusfarm 3 жыл бұрын

Never thought I'd hear someone worry about water getting wet😂

@lp5913 2 жыл бұрын

Hi John, the 1 liter stainless steal Nalgene bottle together with a gsi nesting cup fits perfectly too! I have seen video's of similar waterbottle pouches, however such a nesting cup barely fits or are hard to get out. Bought mine for a tenner years ago with a different closure, jalous of yours, and still serves me well. Great video!

@snaponjohn100 6 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it my friend. God bless. John

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching John!

@marcusfranconium3392 Жыл бұрын

ITs incredible as they come up with new types every few years, i had 4 different ones in 9 years time and that was in the navy , where we hardly use them ,

@jobygochoco2731 4 жыл бұрын

I read somewhere before as a Scout that if you have odd sized canteen cups...you turn them around on the canteen cup stove so they don't sit low and into the stove...sort of like 2 jelly beans in opposing orientation...

@Trailtraveller 5 жыл бұрын

The dutch canteencups comes in 3 different sizes, I believe (from memory) 1950-1969, 1970-1990, 1991 - current. Just slightly different in size (wide) a few millimeters. So covers can fit one size but not the other.

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Trailtraveller I have seen Dutch Army cups listed in different sizes but I wasn’t sure if they were authentic or listed properly because their appearance. Thanks for the information and for watching my video!

@imruggerpreppingwithimrugg9662 4 жыл бұрын

Love it, thank you!

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 4 жыл бұрын

IMRugger Prepping with IMRugger you’re welcome! Thanks for watching!

@ellanvanninbushcraft8388 Жыл бұрын

Hello, I think you need to buy the 58 pattern water bottle set with the crusader mug. The Heavy cover lid, fits perfectly on the mug. Craig.🇮🇲🇮🇲🇮🇲

@WORRO 6 жыл бұрын

Good video Buddy!

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much!

@andrewjohnston4127 6 жыл бұрын

Nice tip on the French cooker, I've been using one for the past year.they seem to be plentiful at the minute and cheap too,around £3.50 each. I use gel in mine as it burns better than the solid fuel tablets

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Very cool! I haven't tried gel yet. I bet it burns pretty clean. I might have to give it a test soon. Thanks for watching my video!

@gijr2003 5 жыл бұрын

I got two "Dutch" cups from SMG years ago, has VDL 89 stamped on them. I use them for in house CCT.

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

gijr2003 very nice. They are a well made piece of kit. Thanks for watching my video!

@weschaffin 3 жыл бұрын

New sub’er.

@JayM409 5 жыл бұрын

Hello John, Nice video. I thought the number 17 on the canteen could be the NATO number for the Netherlands, until you showed the cup. The second sequence of numbers in the NATO stock number is country of origin. 00 or 01 = US, 99 = Great Britain, 21 is Canada, 12 is German, and 17 is obviously the Netherlands. The Dutch camo pattern is a direct copy of British DPM camo, which is the best camo patter ever. ;-)

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

jay harper Thanks for the info!

@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival 6 жыл бұрын

Looks like you figured out how to make my wire stove cup hangers! They work great right? I kind of like the smaller rig and wish the US MOLLE pouch had a cover like that...

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Yes they work very well. I hate it when the cup got stuck in the stove. I had them in a video back in a May 2016 Memorial Day video too. I didn't feature them but you can see them in use while the stove is in the fire. The Dutch rig is very nice for the size. I find its one I like to take along when I'm not featuring something else for a video. Take care! See you in your next video!

@kurtsteiner8384 6 ай бұрын

That other stove looks like a british army type flat stove new version, the older type were taller use solid or fire drago of hexomine tabs.

@oxxnarrdflame8865 6 жыл бұрын

I know it was a hot day and all but on a cooler day you could boil the pouch then use the water for coffee.

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, you are right. It was way too hot for coffee. Also, on this trip I wanted to use the cup a little more in the demonstration than just for boiling water. Thanks for watching my video!

@Yougz-Music 4 жыл бұрын

The french coocker is very efficient , cheap cheap price , and only 50gr lightweight. Easily adaptive with other country stuff

@kuzgunbushcraft-vad7175 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, is nalgene oasis canteen (or us plastic canteen) nest inside Dutch stainless steel cup nicely?

@rodrigocappato4207 8 ай бұрын

Hi! Do you know if the aluminium French canteen botle fits in the Dutch canteen cup?

@torsten4757 4 жыл бұрын

maybe l´m wrong, but you can try to stick the smaller end from the closure tab/toggle thing thru the U shape buckle on the pouch. it´s little harder to open then, but that´s the purpose of this. better said it hold´s better close, it stays more secure, thats what l wanna say :-) this neat trick you can find on several nato-military-pouches. (far as l know, lm not any expert!) best regards from germany, Torsten

@rodrigocappato4207 4 ай бұрын

Hi! Does the aluminum French army canteen fit in the Dutch army canteen cup?

@jim_9236 4 жыл бұрын

Nice review! I recently purchased a surplus belgian army canteen,its exactly same as yours with the same label,with the difference that mine is made in 1969! Do you think it is safe to drink with that?

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 4 жыл бұрын

I would say as long as you clean and sanitize it well and the water tastes fine after being in there for a couple of hours, I would use it and enjoy it! If it doesn’t clean up well, it’s still good as a collection piece. Thanks for watching and for commenting!

@Leadfarmer337 2 жыл бұрын

I hate those plastic sporks I had two break on me on a long hike in the desert. They were both brand new. I don't know if the cold had something to do with it, it was 29 degrees. In all of my packs I now use sea to summit titanium sporks I haven't had one break yet.

@Leadfarmer337 2 жыл бұрын

I figured I'd take two in case one broke well they both broke lol I had to use my knife the rest of the weekend out there

@FiresideCoffee 4 жыл бұрын

Hi John, I hope you are doing well. I’m going thru rewatching some of your videos and I was curious about this pouch. Do you know if this pouch would fit the Swiss M84 canteen and cup? I bought 4 of the M84’s after watching one of your videos and I love them. The size is perfect. Do you know of any canteen covers that fit the M84? Thank you

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 4 жыл бұрын

Fireside Coffee sorry about the delayed reply. I got my M84 out and the pouch from this video. I believe it will fit but the flap might tight when closing it because of he gas mask attachment on the cap. The reason I don’t know exactly how it fits is my M84 is now vacuum packed in a bag with the lid off the canteen. I have to store some of my collection in the garage now and I didn’t want the Florida humidity to ruin them. But even with the canteen set in the vacuum bag, the set slides in nicely and looks like it would fit even with the cap on but I’m not 100% sure about how tight the flap would be. I hope this helps enough and thanks for watching!

@FiresideCoffee 4 жыл бұрын

That helps greatly! That is close enough for me. I’m thinking this will work. Time to buy one lol. Thank you for checking. God Bless

@simonh6371 2 жыл бұрын

There is a Dutch utility pouch in woodland cam, it has an extending part on the top with drawstring, it's too narrow for the Dutch canteen & cup - for that I have the proper Dutch pouch - but it does fit the M84 canteen and cup perfectly. The label says ''opbouwtas, algemeen, klein'' which means something like ''extendible pouch, general, small''. Apparently it's designed for the MOLLE vest.

@FiresideCoffee 2 жыл бұрын

@@simonh6371 awesome thank you!😊👍

@Surv1ve_Thrive 5 жыл бұрын

I have a couple of these steel Dutch mugs. Held up ok after years of use. One of them has a problem, the plate holding the handles in place has come a little loose at one end. Still holds handles in, just. Bad weld perhaps. Any ideas how best to fix it? Have tried couple of things. A rounded bolt head on inside of mug with nut on outside tightened against the plate, then cut short is one idea for example. Solder, glue etc not ideal.

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 4 жыл бұрын

Nick Thorp Well, I guess the best solution is to find a good welder or welding shop and maybe he or she could tack it back in place for you. That might be a challenge depending on your contacts or where you live but that would be best in my opinion since you use it to eat with. Good luck. I hope you are able to fix it.

@jackdorsey4734 3 жыл бұрын

When did they switch covers for U.S. canteen

@baroneb5043 5 жыл бұрын

Nothing to do with your review, however if you are into camp cooking check out the “ Solo Stove “ if you’ve never heard of it... I’ve gone thru quite a few survival / bushcraft stoves by far the Solo beats them all... It has a proprietory design.. Nice review

@PrimoStoker 6 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the Keith TI canteen kit? What are your thoughts.

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

I have not checked out that kit yet. Maybe someday I can. Thanks for watching and for your comment!

@cthulhu6697 4 жыл бұрын

What are the dimensions of this pouch ( height, width, and front to back ) in inches? I have found a good deal on them on a surplus site and online pictures and videos I've seen don't mention the dimensions. By the look, I'm thinking I can use them to fit 2 or ( fingers crossed ) 3 30 round AK-47 magazines each. It would be an affordable way to have some more extra mag pouches that are MOLLE compatible and have those nice Spanish buckles. Thanks

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 4 жыл бұрын

Hello, the dimensions are 8 inches tall, 4.5 inches wide, and about 3.25 deep. This is with the top flap open and just measuring the pouch inside dimensions. I hope this helps. Thanks for watching.

@cthulhu6697 4 жыл бұрын

@@John-Sherwood-W4JFS Yes, thank you, sir. That does help and I believe the fabric will stretch/bellows enough to allow me to fit two, and perhaps even 3, 30 round AK-47/AKM magazines per pouch. With everything being so centered around the AR-15/M-16 here in America, it can be difficult and expensive to find and afford quality gear for the AK-47/AKM. I appreciate you taking the time to answer this, and I feel confident that I will be successful in this endeavor. I thank you again, have a good day.

@dutchman2205 5 жыл бұрын

Great review! But.. the Dutch army never issued a lit or a stove. The Dutch army issued a Esbit stove (for emergency, packed in the opsvest ) and an Coleman multi fuel stove

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

Dutchman 2 Yes. I only added the French Army stove to show that it and the stainless reproduction stove by G.A.K. fits this canteen cup and pouch and it makes a great system together. Thanks for watching and for your comment!

@dutchman2205 5 жыл бұрын

@@John-Sherwood-W4JFS yes it does😀. Cool set up with the stove.

@jelkel25 5 жыл бұрын

Dutch post more reliable than the British! The one modern US style canteen pouch I have (though it was made in Europe) has a cover made out of waterproof material inside you pull up over the top of the canteen to stop dirt getting to it when needed, presumed they'd all be like that, live and learn! Got an old version of the Dutch canteen kit, almost indestructible. Just use a hexamine type stove with it, I think that's what the Dutch used to use, don't know what they use now.

@jelkel25 5 жыл бұрын

Said I'd put some of my kit on Instagram months ago, put a couple of knife photos up there to get my bad photography a little better. If kit collectors like yourself are interested, I'll start photographing that.

@John-Sherwood-W4JFS 5 жыл бұрын

jelkel25 It’s a shame that the package was lost. I just hope it ended up with someone who really needed it. This little set is pretty cool and I agree with you that it’s made very well. It’s perfect for a day hike in cool temps here in Florida. During the summer, I need more water so a larger canteen is best then for me. I hope all is well for you and your family and you have a Merry Christmas next month. Talk to you next time!

@jelkel25 5 жыл бұрын

@@John-Sherwood-W4JFS Thanks John, and a merry Christmas to you and yours!