The Duty of Delight: Foundations of Christian Hedonism, Part 1

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Desiring God

Desiring God

4 жыл бұрын

Look at the Book
Teacher: John Piper
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@BornAgain15
@BornAgain15 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you, John Piper. This makes sense to me and reminds me how Jesus "healed" me from co-dependency . Jesus told me : 1/ You will always be a co-dependent. (that didn't sound like good news, especially from the Lord, the one who makes miracles !). But then, He add : 2/ You depend on me ONLY. WOW !!!! That's a double blessing. ... a crown of beauty instead of ashes ... a garment of praise instead of a spirit of despair - Isaiah 61:3 Glory be to God !!!
@tariqdaley1780
@tariqdaley1780 4 жыл бұрын
God bless you Nathalie
@55myguitar
@55myguitar 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pastor John, I absolutely love this; To support your argument that it is our DUTY to delight in God, not just an offer or suggestion, why not this from Isaiah 30:21, "This is the way", followed by the command "Walk Ye In It". That is to say, If hearing your teaching of pursuit of pleasure in God is illumining the hearer's mind (as it does mine), what is there to question? "Walk Ye In It" saith the Lord.
@blckandwhtknight
@blckandwhtknight 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you brother Piper. You're sounding under the weather. Praying for you this morning.
@Beautifulfeetmodels
@Beautifulfeetmodels 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Pastor
@alastairmacleod9171
@alastairmacleod9171 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Pastor John. More, more, more please, so our roots grow ever stronger, reaching down into the soil to life giving water; spiritual milk; +Eph.1:3.
@alastairmacleod9171
@alastairmacleod9171 4 жыл бұрын
Lord, thankyou for for your word and Pastors world wide like our brother John Piper who earnestly yearn to share Your heart, to please help each one of us, frail in our form, frightened and sometimes fervently anxious to do the right thing, and yet knowing that is beyond our power to do so, we are wholly dependent, whether we feel or not, in any confusion, on your Grace AGAPE Love; "I desire mercy, not sacrifice", to fulfil Your heart "spirit and in truth" command: John 15:17. Please forgive us, our failures, in your name sake I pray. Amen.
@lawrencejones58
@lawrencejones58 4 жыл бұрын
This is what I'm talking about! John Piper made plays from the Word! I am drawn to subscribe!
@vico100
@vico100 4 жыл бұрын
Great!
@HearGodsWord
@HearGodsWord 4 жыл бұрын
People seem to get stuck with the name rather than the principle of "God is most glorified in us, when we're most satisfied in him." Very close to the Westminster Catechism. If you're unsure about this then ask yourself the question Why did God create us?
@timothymccrary1462
@timothymccrary1462 4 жыл бұрын
God works through you John and desiring of. Thank you Thank you Piece of Christ to you and your childrens, children.
@55myguitar
@55myguitar 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to offer a perspective on Pastor John's use of the controversial word "hedonism". Consider the hymn writers centuries ago who set God-exalting verses to the melodies of the common drinking songs of the day. Were they seeking to promote drunkenness? Absolutely not! But is it possible some weak person (even a new convert!) ever heard that melody and decided that he/she missed that old life , and stumbled back into it? It may have happened! Blame the hymn writer? John Piper borrows the word hedonism from the secular world because it works well not only to describe the pursuit of pleasures, but to differentiate from the middle of the road, half-hearted, perhaps guilt-inhibited pleasure seeker (which one could argue that even many American Christians are); a true hedonist has a "push all your chips into the center of the table", "you only live once so grab the gusto", "let the devil take tomorrow" mindset. So in applying this word to the pursuit of pleasure in God, John recommends the full-throttle pursuit of the things of God (which by the way entails full-throttle rejection of worldly pleasures, "hating even the garment polluted by the flesh" Jude 23). This word also reaffirms the pursuit of God as the pleasure source that it truly is, not the weary, law-driven soul-stealing enemy-of-joy religious grind that is so easy to revert to. Additionally, in the pursuit of God, the term commends a "hedonist-like" enthusiasm in as opposed to a sincere but mild-mannered approach that earned the Laodicean church stern words from the Lord himself. But, you argue, what about the dangers of this word choice. I say, a writer who (like pastor John) has a grasp of language and concepts should be able to expect something from his readers (those who have gotten this far with him); after he has done his best to prevent dangerous misunderstandings, to track with him and benefit from the teaching. In 2 Peter 3:15-16, Peter makes reference to Paul and his God-given wisdom, writing things that are sometimes "hard to understand, which the untaught and unstable distort, as they do also the rest of the scriptures, to their own destruction"! Peter doesn't follow this with "Be on your guard against Paul" or try to pressure Paul to dumb-down his writings. The onus is on the reader, to paraphrase Peter, "be on your guard, don't be untaught and unstable, don't twist the Word, don't fall". So, I've now dealt with any reservations I had about the use of Hedonism. Now I need to live it accordingly. I anticipate it will be a joy!
@zossimaspetzinka9703
@zossimaspetzinka9703 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, thanks but you don’t even need the hedonism part of the teaching. It’s just an added word to spice up pursuing God
@isaiassilva5301
@isaiassilva5301 4 жыл бұрын
Name of de app for presentations? Please
@isaiassilva5301
@isaiassilva5301 4 жыл бұрын
@Isaac Atanacio Not. Help please. Name of app presentation
@Thaumazo
@Thaumazo 4 жыл бұрын
Probably very similar to a software used by Khan Academy, SmoothDraw 3. It's free
@oriyavongs
@oriyavongs 4 жыл бұрын
Amen!
@cheveuxnoir7765
@cheveuxnoir7765 8 ай бұрын
I get people don’t like the Hedonist word but considering he says in the video “It doesn’t bother me if you reject the word and embrace the principal” I don’t think it’s that big a deal
@thenowchurch6419
@thenowchurch6419 4 жыл бұрын
Use of the words Hedonism and Pleasure are unfortunate choices and can only lead to confusion and abuse, in the world (Both Christian and secular) as it is today. Joy in God is not synonymous with pleasure and certainly hedonism suggests the abandoning of all moral limits.
@jkjk7423
@jkjk7423 4 жыл бұрын
That is true. That's why in order for it to work, the terms Christian Hedonism must be explained clearly. It is not an abandonment of morals to give in to all kinds of carnal pleasures & fleshly lusts, but to pursue the utmost joy in God & treasure Him supremely
@thenowchurch6419
@thenowchurch6419 4 жыл бұрын
@Kevin w For someone into divine rapture, true.
@buxikiksa5773
@buxikiksa5773 4 жыл бұрын
So what is Hedonism?
@intra896
@intra896 4 жыл бұрын
A garbage
@vadimkononenko4701
@vadimkononenko4701 3 жыл бұрын
If I didn’t check twice I would’ve that T.D jakes was talking. Such a low voice, get better John!
@arthura5695
@arthura5695 4 жыл бұрын
Any one teach me more about god, I'm new Christian, I'll send you my Skype id.
@Dreamlandhomestead
@Dreamlandhomestead 4 жыл бұрын
Feel free to contact me. I'd gladly help you out. In the meantime be careful, many people will try to deceive you into a cult. They are called preachers of righteousness who deny the Lord who bought them, the reason that scriptures calls them preachers of righteousness is because they sound so right. Be careful and study scriptures and be a good berean. Be careful which version you use, satan is in the business of destroying God's word. I recommend a book called, what's missing by David Daniels. Look up Jerry Walls, Leighton Flowers, Warren McGrew, Idolkiller.com, Kevin Thompson and I can give you many other names too. But even them, don't take their word for it, take only God's Word for it. I've spent about 4 years now indepth studying Calvinism up to 8 hrs per day!!! And I've learned that Calvinism is Islam repackaged and a Christian label thrown onto it. Forgive me for being so blunt. I don't want to discourage you, I just have a passion for people who are deceived by Calvinism. I'm not saying you are. But this doctrine of Christian Hedonism is a teaching started by John Piper in the 80's who is a Calvinist.
@jennair94young30
@jennair94young30 4 жыл бұрын
I love your teaching, however, I believe words are vitally important in the congruency of the Biblical message. Teaching of the depth and breadth of God’s character and our duty to God is so vital for our sanctification. I humbly offer, however, here your use of the word hedonism in teaching of our need to be delighted fully in the Lord creates a mindset of worldliness that is unnecessary. I would suggest that our duty toward finding our fullness of pleasure and the duration of our pleasure in the Lord ought not to be confused with such a worldly term. It reminds me of the “cutting edge” Christian song lyrics “the overwhelming, never ending RECKLESS love of God...” . So while I appreciate the clear heartfelt desire to stay fresh in presenting who God is, and our relationship with Him, perhaps there are more careful words that may be used to the advantage of the hearer for the lesson. Thank you again for your arduous ministry in “Desiring God”, it is a blessing indeed!
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
+Les Miserable..I Read your cry. This man John Piper teaches as a Pharisee. He teaches "for doctrine the commandments of Men.". You Need to Remember Jesus Forgave the Pharisees..as He was hanging on that Cross! Evil will Always be among us. Jesus is Giving You Opportunity to Forgive the Pharisees..Just as He Did! Jesus Forgiveness is Your Only Way to Peace. "Forgive and You Shall Be Forgiven."
@intra896
@intra896 4 жыл бұрын
I understand what you are saying about. .. but you must know that Jesus, who will come back as the King of Kings(Judge) judges them. Today , we must focus on the coming day of Jesus. He is coming! Jesus said : Beaware of falae prophet ...Matthew 7:15 Behold do not believe every spirit (person) , but test the Spirit to see whether they are from God ...1John4:1 ...false teachers among you , who will secretly bring in destructive heresies,... 2Peter 2:1 We must expose the evil and filty false teachers, plus, JP. If we know their(JP's) true color behind fake mask( the teaching of the law, hedonism etc) As you read my all comments (maybe ) I decided to leave this flity channel , but MY mind is came back to here again . I don't know where it comes from that mind , it may be also God's providence . I have attacked from stupid puppets of JP ! They are all Fake the same filty JP! But everything is up to God's righteous hand.
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
+Les miserable.. Yes..you are Right. Jesus prompted me to help people be aware..but "the blind do follow the blind." Jesus taught us. I would never tell you what to do. Jesus Let me Rest. Jesus is the Only One Who Knows the Right thing for You to Do. He will Prompt You..Just Keep Seeking Jesus..He will Direct You.
@jessethomas3979
@jessethomas3979 4 жыл бұрын
@@kathleenwharton2139 congrats on finding a fellow troll... Perfect match... Have fun...
@kathleenwharton2139
@kathleenwharton2139 4 жыл бұрын
+Jesse Thomas..Jesus is Absolutely Fine with me Seeking Him Alone. I do Not need Paul or Piper..either one. You are Forgiven for your false accusation.
@intra896
@intra896 4 жыл бұрын
🚨 The users of KZfaq , they will not praise you any longer without Jeimi45 comments here KZfaq. You might have been protected from the user jeimi 's comments behind! But Now None! You will be harshly attacked by other users little by little, if they are not the blind ! Take it up! From now on!
@intra896
@intra896 4 жыл бұрын
@TheEditor107 You must edit your cursed, CRAZY life! GO TO A MADHOUSE RIGHT AWAY!
@ivotikum9338
@ivotikum9338 4 жыл бұрын
When you go out there are good and loving people and they are bad people and they are those who pretend. But rather prefer you preach the Word of God or look for way to call people to Christ than to criticize . God bless all His true workers and those who genuinely seek Him and those who are a distraction their pay awaits them
@intra896
@intra896 4 жыл бұрын
@@ivotikum9338 Don't bother me it's not your business . Read the bible more for you!
@ivotikum9338
@ivotikum9338 4 жыл бұрын
@@intra896 thank you God bless brother
@intra896
@intra896 4 жыл бұрын
■Notice■ : I blocked every notice- bell, so I don't know whose comments are being added, I will never answer to the stupid JP's puppets, No I will not answer to anyone!
@intra896
@intra896 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why I have to be entangled with this filty JP ! Why does God let me do it ? Whyyyyyyyy? I hope leave this channel indeed... Father , hope you let me go , I want to go away from this channel indeed ! In Jesus name, Amen.
@xaviersonofgod4464
@xaviersonofgod4464 4 жыл бұрын
Why? What's wrong with what he is saying?
@intra896
@intra896 4 жыл бұрын
It's not you business...no one knows ! God and I only know....
@xaviersonofgod4464
@xaviersonofgod4464 4 жыл бұрын
@@intra896 if there is something he is saying that Is seriously wrong, then tell us, that we may not be tricked. Genuinely, if there is something that is founded that it genuinely as he said "against scripture" then let it come to light! The truth is what saves us! If not, then why do you dislike Piper? He is a brother in Christ.
@intra896
@intra896 4 жыл бұрын
@@xaviersonofgod4464 Why do you hate me? Because you are the same idolater like JP! This is the reason that you hate me now ! Did I rebuck you in person? I never did! I never knew you! Why do you hate me? You are the very blind this is why you call JP is your brother! If you have your TWO eyes , then read my all comments since. Do not add your comments any longer
@HearGodsWord
@HearGodsWord 4 жыл бұрын
You don't have to be 'entangled' because you choose to be on here!
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