EST quality has been improving for the better recently, the LED genesis is the best designed LED device currently.
@lackedpuppet9022Күн бұрын
My college just added some of these in a recent renovation! I'm pretty firmly in the _"I prefer the older looks"_ camp, but after this video I think I've gained a new appreciation for how functionally improved they are.
@hamzahassan77302 ай бұрын
Im very much going to miss the xenon Genesis, but I have to admit, these are a HUGE step up to the old xenon genesis alarms in several ways
@PyroTech40513 ай бұрын
My personal opinion, I’ve never really liked LED strobes too much, but I do like how advanced these devices are. Truly a smart device. I personally think the ceiling mount device looks like a UFO lmao. Anyways, great review!
@YourLocalFireAlarmTech3 ай бұрын
I gotta say these are definitely solid. still blows my mind that they can fit on a single gang backbox. They are slick lookin! Glad you're enjoyin' all the devices! Honestly, these blow the L Series out of the water.
@joeycaridi30303 ай бұрын
But then soon they'll be System Sensor LED L-Series Speaker Strobes which are the SPSRLED
@firealarm2903_3 ай бұрын
@@joeycaridi3030aka 👎👎👎
@joeycaridi30303 ай бұрын
@@firealarm2903_ Please no ranting or hating on the looks of the LED L-series. It's just a fire alarm and no one cares that a fire alarm looks bad or not
@That_2_guy2T3 ай бұрын
Fire alarm community drama starts as easy as this
@The_Abigail3 ай бұрын
good to see EST appears to be makin a turn around
@firealarm2903_3 ай бұрын
I really like them, good to see EST going in the right direction.
@fireguyif743 ай бұрын
personally i think wheelock makes the best speaker strobes, but this can still beat it in some ways
@aidenlui20563 ай бұрын
I love their cover design
@Wire_Tech223 ай бұрын
Super awesome overview of these alarms! I’ve been curious about them for some time, and it’s nice seeing the lineup in detail. EST is definitely one of the best notification device manufacturers.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
Quite sleek looking devices. that is awesome that they will mount on very low volume boxes Single gang device box is crazy. Definitely good looking devices. The one thing I don't like is is clips you have to poke screwdrivers in. Those seem to break and in Canada having to remove every single device in order to short to the box to create a ground fault doing a verification I appreciate devices that it's one simple screw. Having to takeoff a front cover and then the device itself also has to be removed. It's just an extra step where I can see things getting broken or lost on a busy site just adds more complexity. Other than that, these look very good, Nice video as well.
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
The clips are definitely interesting. I don’t like the clips that are just plastic snaps (like the legacy SpectrAlert units) but these seem a little more robust with a metal spring as a clip. Not sure how I feel about them since I haven’t installed these, but they appear like they’d last.
@nics-systems-electric3 ай бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967 hopefully they will last. Things are definitely always a different experience once it's actually flush on a wall. I just know who is often installing these, often times on a job when time is a factor. things get broken when people don't want to figure out how to properly open devices and will start ripping on things. that's why I prefer a visible screw where it's obvious how it opens and reduces the chances of improper opening causing damage.
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
@nics-systems-electric definitely true
@firepro-squad77783 ай бұрын
Those seem to be very nice alarms! Great video.
@That_2_guy2T3 ай бұрын
These things get too much hate for what they are. I love these. I don't care what people would have to say about that.
@TheMcGeeTwinsАй бұрын
Every single trouble wheelock is better
@FireAlarmDude5967Ай бұрын
In what way
@jacobflanigan63433 ай бұрын
I like the Space Age Av32 strobe plate with TVMAA Speaker
@aerhardt3 ай бұрын
I feel like EST and Honeywell have sort of swapped roles recently when it comes to quality.
@drum-corps-fan29 күн бұрын
Fr Edwards has stepped up their game with their EST4 platform and their new LED platform
@EthansCaverns3 ай бұрын
I really like the Genesis LED better than the Genesis Xenon. Not just the speaker strobes, but also the horn strobes. They just have a much better design compared to the xenon series.
@pfefferwal3 ай бұрын
Some of the buildings in my college have them but no marking
@drum-corps-fan3 ай бұрын
My High School has these and they're great!
@roblox_kidyt50393 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh, you're so lucky!
@drum-corps-fan3 ай бұрын
@@roblox_kidyt5039 yeah, it's on an EST4 system. We also have integrity weatherproof speaker strobes in our courtyard and our pool area. It's great, a lot better than the EST3 system at the other high school with Spectralerts, Those things are loud especially in the pool area.
@jzzhang7263 ай бұрын
Those are cool!
@Chilldude123493 ай бұрын
Omgggg the fire alarm enthusiast posted another video
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
As I have been doing every week for the last three years
@joshlambeth92003 ай бұрын
Very cool. I like these but it sucks that the mounting brackets are separate model numbers
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
Definitely a struggle for fire alarm collectors, but I suppose it doesn’t affect installation since you just order universal brackets for installation
@reffthecanadien13283 ай бұрын
So awesome
@aidanthetoiletelevatorfire75543 ай бұрын
Very cool! I like the LED EST Devices. I like them a lot more than the xenon Genesis. I wonder if Simplex will make an LED TrueAlert or if Gentex will make LED devices.
@That_2_guy2T3 ай бұрын
Simplex has made LED truealerts
@aidanthetoiletelevatorfire75543 ай бұрын
@@That_2_guy2T Aren't those Addressable? I would hope they'd make a conventional SmartSync version to replace the 4906 series.
@That_2_guy2T3 ай бұрын
@@aidanthetoiletelevatorfire7554they probably are addressable, I'm not sure.
@FOSK-lc9op3 ай бұрын
9:25 I always hear this in my high school
@firealarmlover20102 ай бұрын
Me too
@yalekthelembine03913 ай бұрын
My question is why the heck did simplex not do crap? They could have easily made their 4903 line reintroduced with better audio quality for all the speakers and you know horns you know LED looking appliances and then have so much better for simplex and have a better reputation for them.
@aidanthetoiletelevatorfire75543 ай бұрын
IKR! Simplex should definitely consider doing that for a lot of devices because some of the designs are getting outdated and looks like they could use a refresh for some alarms.
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
I agree, simplex should make a conventional notification appliance that has LED technology. All the other brands except Gentex have a nice conventional LED device, so simplex should design something
@yalekthelembine03913 ай бұрын
@@aidanthetoiletelevatorfire7554 I even mentioned on Ryan Marcus's forum about this exact issue. Another thing about that company Johnson controls they are literally the worst company I've ever seen when it comes to proprietary nonsense, and not being able to serve the community properly.. they really need to start doing community input so that way people can buy from them again
@yalekthelembine03913 ай бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967 do you have a discord?
@drum-corps-fan3 ай бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967 with the way simplex is right now, those will cost like $1,000 a pop.
@4040-Simplex3 ай бұрын
These look like the large horn strobes by edwards they made horn strobes with the ceiling ones.
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
Yes they resemble the old speaker strobes and low frequency sounders
@coreyanderson2182 ай бұрын
My school uses these but instead they use the slow whoop tone instead
@drum-corps-fan29 күн бұрын
Mine does too but we use 520hz code 3
@TFEAS-093 ай бұрын
Although I dont like them that much, i will admit, they look futuristic. I just find the LED is a bit too bulbous. Other than that, i like the design of the grille and the body.
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
I suppose the LED could be perceived as large, but it’s smaller than all the other xenon strobes on the market.
@TFEAS-093 ай бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967 you aren't wrong!
@achannelwithnopurpose19773 ай бұрын
In your opinion, what do you think about the sound quality. I noticed it lacks lots of lower frequencies and sticks to the higher ranges of sound frequencies. I especially noticed this on a test someone did in a building with an EST4 unit. It still sounds pretty clear though which is nice considering how small the speakers are inside the units. All in all it’s a pretty nice addition to the already great genesis series.
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
Sounds pretty average. It complies with the regulations for alarm signaling intelligibility so I’d say it’s a good speaker
@achannelwithnopurpose19773 ай бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967 I think the simplex Truealert es speaker sounds the best. It effectively projects all levels of sound frequencies and sounds the clearest which does make a difference in helping ensure legible notification. It’s not muffled or too high pitched to understand.
@lifealliancegroup21 күн бұрын
Hi, have you programmed the new EST 4 as yet, or do you know a young person that has done so, who lives in Florida somewhere ?!?!?!
@FireAlarmDude596721 күн бұрын
No, I don’t own an EST4
@TakoElevatorsАй бұрын
A school building I went to uses those devices
@TakoElevatorsАй бұрын
Also, the mounting brackets come with a red bar on them called a diagnostic check bar.
@cjelevators2233 ай бұрын
My school has these.
@CivilDefenseSoutherner3 ай бұрын
Have pictures of seeing these alarms at a Gaylord hotel during a specific event I went to two years ago
@josephfrye73423 ай бұрын
nice
@SplatoonGG2.03 ай бұрын
These Alarm Are Very Cool Looking but The stupid thing about them is that they have to sell the mounting Bracket Separate
@NS-Sirens3 ай бұрын
they are pretty good, sadly they will replace the bells for these
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
It happens, but at least they’re a robust and well made device
@johndeerefan725Ай бұрын
That's what happened at a library I went to. They had Simplex bells that were recently replaced with these, but likely the horn strobe models. That was my first time seeing one in the field.
@NS-SirensАй бұрын
@@johndeerefan725 I haven’t seen any here in Canada yet
@drum-corps-fan29 күн бұрын
@@NS-SirensSoon™
@Maddoxblixtpreppy143 ай бұрын
Send me all of your genesis alarms and EST pull stations to me
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
I’m good
@Organham49033 ай бұрын
I’ve heard that the audio quality isn’t very good. There mid imo
@FireAlarmDude59673 ай бұрын
It’s pretty average
@Organham49033 ай бұрын
@@FireAlarmDude5967 yeah, ig it is. I’m guessing they build their own drivers