The Elektron Digitone & Digitakt combo

The Elektron Digitone & Digitakt combo | 2 year user review

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Hi friends,
For the last 2 years I’ve been using the Elektron Digitone & Digitakt combo nearly exclusively to write, arrange, record and perform my music on. Time to look back on this experience and all the pros, cons, future wishes and of course a glimpse at the Syntakt. Let me know your thoughts on this combo in the comments.
Have a brilliant day,
Miles
Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
1:25 - Pros
9:30 - Cons
13:55 - Future wishes and Final verdict
16:57 - Adding the Syntakt to the combo?
19:59 - Outro
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@Doctor-en8dj 2 жыл бұрын

Your jams are amazing! Thank you for such great content mate.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Doctor 808! 🙏🏻

@SlowHaste 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, Miles! I totally agree with all of this. Especially the point regarding audio routing through the Digitakt, that compressor is one of my favorite features. I like that you talked about the practicality/limitations of the two machines together with the cons, too - I’ve run into the same issues with fills & muting as well.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Great to see you here Daniel! And thanks a lot for the lovely feedback - great to hear that I'm not the only one experiencing these issues! 😁 All the best buddy

@santiagopolo7884 2 жыл бұрын

Great job mate. Very helpful. As always

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Santiago! Happy to hear that it's helpful 🙏🏻

@duketranslucent3rd 3 ай бұрын

Excellent overview, Miles, thanks a lot!

@MilesKvndra 3 ай бұрын

You’re welcome! Glad that you dig it :)

@tachoix 2 жыл бұрын

Ich mag dieses Format von dir so gern 🎉 mehr davon!

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Danke Nu! Dann muss ich wohl bald nochmal was dazu machen. 🙂

@ruffian01 2 жыл бұрын

Nice report, Miles 👌🏽 Keep up the good work.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Ruffian! Will do 🙌🏻

@embazle 2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree with the chord/melody progression limitation, I work around it by live recording and chaining patterns together, it get's challenging when playing back trying to figure out where your note is landing within the entire chain sequence of your creation, but it works. Thanks for this video, I've learned a lot from you Miles!

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers eM! And yeah that's a huge limitation - really would like to see longer pattern length in future (Elektron) devices. The creative ways around that work but limit you in other ways. Cheers and keep on jamming! :)

@59Perlen 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review dude! Totally agree on the mute sync downside! Also loved the structure of the video. Nice !

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mat my friend! Really appreciate your feedback and thanks a lot for watching. :)

@AtlasCastleDk 2 жыл бұрын

Great and complet review my friend 🙏 Very relevant and interesting insights. I never really got the hang with the Digitone, but I can definitely see how complementary those two boxes are 🖤.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend! Great to see you here and thanks for the feedback - you have found some amazing machines that go well with the DT too. Can see that every week in your jams! :)

@johncitizen8828 Жыл бұрын

Really great and thorough breakdown. 🙏Very helpful. I think your points re overwhelm with adding a Syntakt is valid. Then again, a *few* extra tracks would be handy.

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

Hey John, thanks for the feedback! And yeah agree, it would be handy indeed - this is why I’m currently switching to a new hybrid setup using Ableton Live and it has been a great experience so far!

@EZBOT_ 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Thank you for the shoutout Miles!

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy 💚 The video and your thoughts were super helpful for me and I think will also be for others - keep up the great work!

@hexwavemusic 2 жыл бұрын

Great review Miles! Agree with everything on the pros and cons, they're a great combo! And yeah I really do wish pattern mutes would sync up across devices.. Would be interesting to see what you would do with a Syntakt if you ever got one! Hey @elektron send this guy a unit 😉

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers buddy! Yeah let's see haha - for now I need to explore the Mother-32 further but would love to also check out the Syntakt in the future. :)

@embazle 2 жыл бұрын

What I love about the Digitakt is it's amazing sampling capability. You can sample anything, pitch, chop and reverse, it's super fun. My setup is more stationary than portable, with that I have a lot of external instruments that connect back to my core mixer. From there I have an aux send that goes into the DN's IN, and the DN's OUT goes into the DT's IN, enabling me to send any instrument to sample (or route through all DN and DT's effects!) without having to mess with the physical connections. The only caveat is gain staging but once that's settled it's a pretty nifty incorporation.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah agree! For that form factor the sampling capabilities are great - I just resampled some melodic stuff from the DN into the DT and it works so smoothly. Your setup sounds really dope, being able to sample everything into the DT is a big plus. And if you are using mono synths/instruments you don't even need to sacrifice the stereo field. But even with that I find that you can bring it back nicely using panning + the DT's reverb and delay. :)

@G0nz0uk 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, I agree with all of what you said. (if not done already) I would love to see how you have the Microcosm setup and integrated and also what you use as a mixer and recording device.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Andy! I made a video on the MC setup when I got the device last year. :) As a mixer and audio interface I'm using the Arturia Audiofuse Studio - love that you can use it also standalone without a computer which is a big plus for me!

@thomasmehl63 2 жыл бұрын

Syntakt’s melodic plucky sounds sound absolutely great when you run them through a Microcosm, especially with triangle/square shape on Mosaic 3 or 4.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Oh I can imagine that Thomas! The Mosaic presets sound awesome indeed 😍

@NathanielPaffettLugassy 2 жыл бұрын

This is my favorite combo as well, because it’s soooo fast! From being able to mute the channels from one device, to control-all, to sound locks, I can get a jam going from an initialized state within seconds! I route my audio to have an analog bass synth going into the Digitone inputs and the Digitone going into the Digitakt for the compressor. I recently configured a Launch Control XL with a custom template to for more immediate access to levels and certain parameters (that was the only annoying part as it’s USB only and not a host) so it either has to go through my computer or Retrokits RK-005. The thing I want most is a mod/velocity/bc/aftertouch matrix on the Digitakt like the Digtone. That would truly make it the ultimate sampler :) I haven’t gotten to vibe with the Syntakt that much because something about the hybrid nature of the machines feels unpolished. Sound locks show an ‘!’ when you can’t use them and it just feels clunkier than the Digitakt or Digitone. Also, the FX track selection behaves differently than the normal track selection and often find myself struggling to figure out why I’m not seeing my track parameters.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for sharing Nathaniel! Since I have the Mother-32 I'm basically using a similar routing as you are using - routing audio in the Digitone is great because you have 3 different FX that you can use on the source. :) And regarding Syntakt: I haven't tried it yet but most people I talked to are amazed by it. Especially due to the FX track - this looks like something really cool and I would like to try that. But I can understand you saying that it behaves differently - makes operation a little harder especially when coming from the other machines.

@iamjamessmith 2 жыл бұрын

Loved this, bud. Thanks for all your thoughts. My setup consists of: Digitakt, Digitone, and a smallish eurorack skiff. I've never felt better about my workflow or the music I'm making. I'm always inspired and having fun! I have a Make Noise Strega in my skiff, and it's sound is a really cool compliment to the Digi boxes :):)

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey James, that sounds like a super fun setup! And yeah the Strega sounds like a good compliment to the Digis I can imagine that. :)

@baselzwei 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Miles, thanks for the great video. I totally agree with you. I've had both Elektrons in my studio for well over a year and really like them both. However, the Digitakt and Digitone are tied into a larger hardware setup at my studio that is controlled by my Squarp Pyramid MK2. This works totally well and is great in timing (and via Program Changes from the Pyramid, the Elektrons suddenly have a song mode... but it's a bit tricky). The Digitakt often takes over the drums / percussion part. But I also really like its synthesizer capabilities (when using single cycle waveforms). The combo is altogether already very powerful and fat sound. I have already considered whether the Syntakt would fit into my setup, but have come to the conclusion that I would then have too much redundancy in the setup, which would be a hindrance. Many drum sounds that I have heard so far from the Syntakt, I also get in the Digitakt with some sampling and sound design (ok, for this you have to master the Digitakt certainly already something...). The other parts in the Syntakt are either based on the model Cycles (hello, Digitone) or analog (which I also have here already standing around...). So there would be something over there for me. So I think the Syntakt would be perfect for a small, not so big setup. In a combo together with Digitakt and Digitone would be me from the sound but too much overlap present, so I would always have to decide which device I should use for what. The focus would suffer for me. Viele Grüße von der Nordseeküste! 😊

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey man, thanks for sharing the setup and also the interesting thoughts on the Syntakt - I've literally had the same thoughts. I really wanted an analog synth to add to that combo but wasn't sure about the Syntakt. So now I went for something completely different with the Mother-32 and I have the feeling that it is another big creativity booster. Oh und natürlich liebe Grüße zurück aus Köln an die schöne Nordsee! 🙌🏻🙂

@baselzwei 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra Hi Miles, congratulations on the Mother-32, exciting device...looking forward to the videos... :-). I use a Vermona Mono Lancet 15 for the analogue touch. It's not a modulation monster, but it sounds wonderful and also a bit "moogish“.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

@@baselzwei very interesting device too! And yeah the Moog sound is just lovely 💚

@sarundayo 4 ай бұрын

Great video. The only benefit of adding a Syntak would be for the drum machine alone, that would free up the sampler to be used in different ways I'd think. One dedicated machine to program all your drums, the other one for sample slicing/etc, and the synth for effects, with the added bonus to connect a keyboard for live sound leads if needed. Keep cookin' 👌

@MilesKvndra 4 ай бұрын

Good thoughts! Thanks for sharing and you keep cooking too 🙌🏻

@HorstDerHoden22 Жыл бұрын

Top! Feier deinen Channel!

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

Danke Samuel! Freut mich sehr zu hören

@MyReasonToPlay 2 жыл бұрын

I like your minimalism! Only 2 machines (+1 FX), only 3 boxes in a cupboard. Yes, I know about Mother32, but, I hope it'll don't change your direction.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey dude, that's awesome to hear! Thank you so much - and no definitely not, I still like the minimalistic approach very very much and try to keep my setup as simple as possible! 💚

@aroundhere3476 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Miles, I just got to see your video today, thanks for your thoughts on this combo that i always find very interesting, I agree with you that the Syntakt offers so many tracks, but as a replacement for the Digitakt it wouldn't be bad if you don't like sampling. Am very curious about your creation with the m32. Good luck my friend 💚

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much Adil! Always appreciate having you around. :) And yeah, I think the Syntakt would especially be a great standalone synth. And I'm still exploring the Mother-32 but so far it's really great 💚 all the best for you too buddy!

@cryn 2 жыл бұрын

Great tip that you can mute digitone from digitakt. I will certainly use that in my setup.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers cryn! Yeah that works really nicely

@orkunbagatur5055 2 жыл бұрын

OMG ! that ability to mute DN from DT is just super nice... I wish I could do that from OT as well...

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Orkun! Yeah that's super handy - didn't know that the OT can't do that!

@quantummonastery Жыл бұрын

Great video also we just got song mode!!!

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

Cheers! And absolutely right, another cool new feature to these machines. Love how they continuously improve the software side of the machines 💚

@unidadsonora6331 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for all your coments! I like to think and work as if they were a single device!

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for that lovely feedback! And yeah this thought process really helps a lot :)

@GeorgeLocke 2 жыл бұрын

After years of making ambient/noise with modular hardware and software, I started making techno. I've started using bitwig, but it's giving me decision fatigue. I wanted a streamlined work flow and got a used DT. I love the sequencer and the sound design is enough, but 8 tracks and purely sample based sound design is tough, especially since it doesn't do multi sampling. A midi-CV device to control the modular would help, but I still need more tracks. I'm pretty well convinced that the Syntakt is the next step, but I feel lazy bc I have a perfectly good Novation Supernova collecting dust, it's just a pain to program from the DT. I guess I have more money than sense :)

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

That sounds like a great journey George! And I think on the DT standalone you can create a lot of great stuff - I have to admit I'm using it way to little for sounddesign and just for sampling. But yeah, I think DT + ST would be a great combo!

@out_of_band 2 жыл бұрын

This might not help for the types of transitions you're looking to do, but just in case you weren't aware you can latch the fill for one loop by hitting YES + PAGE. If you release PAGE before YES it will hold the latch until you hit PAGE again. Might be enough to free up a hand for one of those filter sweeps.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey, that's a very good tip! I tried this workaround couple of times but it somehow didn't click for me - I think the most problematic part is that my max pattern length are all different depending of the jams (sometimes 64, 128 or even 256). This makes it hard for me to plan the transition in advance in my existing jams (for new jams it would be doable I guess). But good point to mention! :)

@out_of_band 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra Ah yeah, having the different pattern lengths running would definitely make that harder! If I do use this, it’s typically to fully latch the pattern for a bit, and not so often for one loop.

@raysubject 4 ай бұрын

missing your digitone+digitakt only live jams ;-)

@MilesKvndra 3 ай бұрын

Yeah it’s a great setup, however it’s quite limited so I’m definitely preferring my current hybrid setup. But for music making it’s great :)

@peacefulpigeon7254 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic video thanks. I always prefer a midi keyboard in my set up for playing the Digitone - do you add this sometimes? I had a go on the Digitone keys and found it incredibly freeing and amazing - but it’s quite big and heavy and quite an investment. This combo works for me sonically but I find it hard to work within 64 steps and do the work around for longer patterns. You are very inspiring thanks!

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Peacefulpigeon, thank you so much! Always the best when my music inspires people. 💚 And I can imagine a MIDI keyboard being great with the Digitone but I've never tried it. I've always been fine with the Digitone's keyboard although it is of course very limiting. I got used to switching octaves on the fly but I still think a MIDI keyboard is a great addition :)

@atlantisrelaxingmusic294 8 ай бұрын

Nice video ….I just bought the 2 of them really nice machine and now with the os update that’s a really good combo can I ask you a question concerning overbridge ? Do you sometimes use it for recording your audio ? If yes do you need to get the audio to your mixer or you can use the usb cable to manage the audio and midi directly with overbridge and get the audio out on the master audio card used with your computer ?

@MilesKvndra 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! I meanwhile switched to a hybrid setup and use the two machines solely via Overbridge. Big advantage is that you can indeed transmission MIDI and audio just via USB. Howevevr, you'll probably need however a DAW to use Overbridge in a good way and set everything up audiowise (I use Ableton Live and it works great for me).

@freejazzbone 2 жыл бұрын

nice video, thanks, on a simulated song mode, could one not simultaneously send pgm/pattern change messages to each other hence creating a song mode, so with 4 bar X 128 patterns, one should be able to get a 512 bar " song" ?

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Joe! Hmm I'm not 100% sure if that would work out in the end but it's a good question - I'm just happy that my MIDI setup works for now and also I'm already using all the MIDI ins/outs/through on the Digitone.

@dekalboy8816 Жыл бұрын

If you want just only one device that can do what these 2 machines do , go for a SY’THSTROM DELUGE ! Moreover you will be so happy to see song mode and arrangement mode !

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Deluge is great! Tried it at Superbooth and also had a longer talk with Ian from Synthstrom about their open source project (interview is also here on the channel). For now I'm very happy with my hybrid setup but the Deluge is an awesome machine Synthstrom Audible is great company - excited to see how their open source project will be going!

@joebetz6317 2 жыл бұрын

I have had a Digitakt for roughly one year now, and I have really enjoyed it. I would like to add a Digitone, and I would eventually like to do live performances. Could you recommend videos (your own or otherwise, such as the midi mute feature you describe in the pros section) regarding what would be needed to make a live performance possible? Thank you sincerely for reading!

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Joe, thanks a lot for watching! I actually have a short three part tutorial series exactly on that, covering my own setup for live jams, how I structure tracks, performance, etc. Here is the first video of that series: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gtVjrZanqsm0mHk.html hope it helps and all the best for getting the setup going! 🙂🙌🏻

@joebetz6317 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra Excellent! I will absolutely dive in!!!

@anton.che.musica 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, Miles! Yes, it would be great to press just one “fill” button and have one free hand to do something else. Also, I really miss bell/notch type of filter on the Digitone. I use one quite a lot on the Digitakt, it helps to mix and glue things together. And, yes, midi arp would be nice to have as well 👍🏻. Syntakt is very interesting device but I’m not sure if I have enough focus to rule them all. Cause having DT+DN with it’s 12 track is already overkill for me. And one question. Did you ever use overbridge recording your music to daw or you record in stereo? I found overbridge useless. I usually mix tracks same time I create sequences, right from the start and using all effects. That’s how I grope for my sound. Using overbridge for multitrack recording kills that particular sounding that I really feel and like. What do you think about it?

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Anton and very good point on the filter! Regarding your question: I've been recording my jams via the stereo outs for the reason you mentioned but recently (due to a co-op project in Ableton) using Overbridge more and more. And I have to say I really like the flexibility it adds. I have set up my send FX in Ableton in a way to mirror the Digitone's/Digitakt's FX so I can apply them to the tracks. And I just love that I can now further process all the tracks individually - that's a big plus. I think it both has advantages - I can think of using Overbridge more for studio track recordings and the stereo out/DAWless part for live performances.

@anton.che.musica 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra yeah, I’ve tried to do the same, but ended up with the question - what’s the point of doing sequences on the Elektron device and mix em somewhere else outside? It’s more convenient to use Ableton, it’s internal tons of instruments and Push for example. I have had Push 2 and it’s good for sound design as well, you nearly touch the mouse/trackpad

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

@@anton.che.musica good question. I think for me it's that I like the workflow on the Elektron devices to create ideas but I have the feeling that with the stereo out I will not get a real studio mix that I'd be 100% happy with. I also have a Push2 but haven't used it for some time, maybe I need to give it another go try that I'm getting more into using Ableton again

@martinausdeutschland Жыл бұрын

The Syntakt features many machines and additional, analogue ones. But it has 12 tracks in all. The Digitakt had 8 sound tracks and in addition 8 dedicated midi tracks, which opens a lot of possibilities. In opposite to the Model:Samples the Digitakt can distinct between a start of a sample and looping a second part of it. I'm currently thinking of buying a digitakt and use it more like a synth with basic waveforms or with samples of instruments I love, like the duduk or chellos. Using the other 8 tracks for my Model:Cycles. I would be interested, if these two would work as good together, as your combo. Before spending more money I will see, how far I come with just the Model:Cycles. 6 tracks is very limiting, but because of the trig locks one could possibly put open and closed HH on the same track etc. Well, I'll see... I like the directness of the Model:Cycles very much.

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

Cheers Martin and thanks for sharing your thoughts! I think using the DT and M:C together would also be a nice combo. Never considered the Model versions because I already had the Digis but I think they are great instruments. Pretty sure you can also do some great stuff with the M:C alone. All the best!

@raysubject 2 жыл бұрын

i'm lookimg forward to Syntakt to move to it all drums + bass from Digitakt ,to free Digitakt for arpeggios, mono leads and sampled fx/voices .. also FX track on Syntakt looks very cool (my idea is to put it at end of chain - Digitone > Digitakt > Syntakt) ... currently decided to sell Analog 4 mk1 to fund Syntakt purchase , hope i will find buyer soon 😂

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Haha I feel that - and nice idea with the routing, the FX track really sounds interesting. Would love to try that too. :)

@raysubject 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra probably not, you can just add your own .. i just went ito digitakt support page and created ticket with title "feature request - bypass compressor for selected tracks" + some description of idea how it should work .. will let you know IF i get any reply from them ;)

@ramirogorriti 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Miles, can I ask why you route the Digitone audio outputs to the Digitakt audio inputs, and not the other way around? In order to be able to sample the Digitone?

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ramiro, yes exactly that - another reason is that this way I can use the Digitakt's compressor on the whole signal chain as kind of like a master compressor. Adds a little punch to the whole signal.

@romboid 2 жыл бұрын

Great video as always, Miles. I add another TIP. This combo has a 3rd LFO for each DN track. You can set it up in the track 9 of the DT for the track 1 in the DN to a midi Cc destination. And even a 4th if you use the other 4 tracks in the DT.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Pablo! And that's a great trick indeed - does that also work when using tracks 9-12 on the DT to mute the DN? Should be, right?

@romboid 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra yes , it works. And even more. I sequence sometimes midi cc locked steps in DT midi tracks to affect DN tracks. Filter cutoff for example. Or a pseudo vol sidechain... 😎😁

@atetraxx Жыл бұрын

Please get a syntakt! I’m obsessed with mine. Would love to see your content on it. Looking at a dt or ot To complement

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

Hey there, I have to admit that the Syntakt really looks interesting. But right now it is just not the right synth for me as my hybrid setup is completed and I want to keep it as compact as possible.

@atetraxx Жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra fair

@ro.se.8297 2 жыл бұрын

Indeed an amazing combo. Even though I prefer external sequencers with a little more flexibility.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can see that. I like the sequencers but the patterns could really be longer - that's I think the biggest limitation for me. I just started to experiment a little bit with Ableton and sending MIDI from there to the Digitone and Digitakt - that opens some great new possibilities and is a lot of fun to try out. What sequencer are you using?

@ro.se.8297 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra I just got a Squarp Pyramid. Also tried other devices, even Grooveboxes with Midi-Sequencing Capabilities just because I hoped, they would be closer to what a Digitakt/Digitone/Syntakt could do, just with the more flexible sequencing - but those, again, in many cases seemed to limited in the end, compared what the Elektrons already could do, even if it's only at 4 bars length. I think the Pyramid might be the best option I stumbled upon so far, when going DAW-less. It can get a bit fiddly sometimes with it's small screen and limited knobs and buttons, but the amount of control is still there. Also I'm thinking about giving the new Hapax a try. Still your Ableton + Elektron Option is something I'm currently also thinking about. There's only so much trouble I'm ready to take and compromises I'm willing to make before I'm ready to sacrifice my DAW-less option for your setup + the Push 2 :D I can let you know how my tryouts work out in the end, also I'm curious with what you'll finally stick

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

@@ro.se.8297 Sounds like a dope idea! And yeah haha please let me know - I'm still thinking what would be the best approach. Syncing via Ableton currently works really nice - but for playing live I would right now still rely on a DAWless setup

@ro.se.8297 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra So, how is your current setup for sequencing the Elektrons via Ableton - I guess you'll be using Overbridge for recording the individual audio tracks. Then, do you have seperate Midi tracks for each individual Digitakt track? And how do you automate or p-lock? Does all the automation/locking need to be happening on the Digitakt-Track or can you do it directly on the according midi tracks? Do you combine it with Push? What's the most immedate / Elektron like workflow you came up with so far?

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

@@ro.se.8297 Hey ro.se., I'm still at the early stage here and testing stuff out - but I've been mostly using it to record audio from the seperate tracks which already is great to have. Usually I'm recording the live performance in one go and then have all the automations already recorded. I think in the next step I would like to try a little bit more with MIDI around

@mrp9308 Жыл бұрын

Hi there mate I’ve had these boxes 2 years and I’ve only just discovered panning is not recorded from stereo outs or overbridge can’t believe it , thanks for your videos learned loads.

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

Ohh didn’t know that! Always thought that with single track recordings FX and panning aren’t recorded but thought it was possible when recording from the stereo outs.

@mrp9308 Жыл бұрын

These are my favourite machines & I’ve only just noticed when you record stereo outs which I do, into mixer with sd card there’s no panning and the mix is all in the centre when I put on computer .I’m very confused about this not sure what to do.

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

@@mrp9308 that’s weird and I’m pretty sure it shouldn’t be like that. Maybe reach out to Elektron for support?

@mrp9308 Жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra I’ve tried miles but you get put through to the forums which is a minefield , do you record stereo outs I’m thinking about getting an Mpc but I love these two boxes .I sell my syntakt first see how that goes cheers mate.

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

@@mrp9308 yes I always recorded Stereo outs with my digis and it worked. Basically all my DAWless jams here on the channel are recorded through the stereo outs into Ableton which works fine for me

@sinewaymusic 2 жыл бұрын

I'm honestly skeptical about the supposed holy trinity. Of course, Elektron would want to market them that way (gotta catch them all!), but I think it would lead to cognitive overload and having to manage three devices at the same time. At the very minimum, you'd have to accept Fill on no more than two at the time, etc. I can see why you'd be attracted to the idea though, and if Elektron were to send you a free Syntakt, I'd look forward to seeing you jam on all three. 🧡

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey David, yeah that is exactly my thought: adding 12 additional tracks could also be a little overkill and kill creativity. The FILL mode limitation is a very good point too, never thought of that - three hands are needed. But cheers for the kind words, wouldn't say no to trying out the Syntakt as well. 💚

@thefoxisblak 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve been working with this combo too, just added a Moog Minitaur. One of my biggest frustrations however, is patter mutes, they don’t work on midi tracks. If anyone has a workaround let me know.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Carlos, nice setup! And yeah I can see that with the pattern mutes, that's exactly the reason why I stopped using them and just go with global mute mode. I got used to it but still would be great to have the option with pattern mutes - unfortunately I didn't know a workaround

@joeyfdh9890 5 ай бұрын

Hi. My digitone does not start playing when I press play on the digitakt even though my set up is like yours. Thinking this might have to do with that I have not been able to update it, but i could with the digitakt without problems. Does anyone else have issues updating the digitone? For me it does not even get recognized by the computer using Transfer, it is very frustrating and Elektron themselves have not been helpful in solving this problem. Been searching in forums but cant find anything newer than like 2020 on this topic and those ideas were also not helpful. If someone know how to do this, please help. Thanks!

@MilesKvndra 5 ай бұрын

Hey, sad to hear that! I never had an issue like that with my unit so I’d recommend checking that with the Elektron support so that they can help getting that sorted

@pierrefitch Жыл бұрын

What’s your favourite features on digitone and digitakt I own the digitone key and digitakt and syntakt

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

Oh there are loads. But probably the Digitone’s synth engine, the LFOs and the sequencer options.

@chrisegonsearlemusic 2 жыл бұрын

Will be watching this later. I got both as a combo but then moved into playing more guitar based stuff. Really want to explore these machines.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Chris! I recently started to use my guitar with the combo to and route it through the Digitone using the internal FX on it - that's a lot of fun! :)

@chrisegonsearlemusic 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra Ah that makes sense. I plan to use them together actually! Always love your stuff ❤️

@mrp9308 Жыл бұрын

Hi mate do you record into ableton from mixer into audio interface then pc if so does that record panning & fx etc thanks.

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

Hi mrp, yes in my DAWless jams I recorded the stereo outs directly in my interface and yes, in the stereo sum panning & FX are recorded.

@mrp9308 Жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra thankyou that helps a lot mate. I need to get an audio interface 👍

@lesvolga1355 2 жыл бұрын

Hello sir! Could you please get into details how can one make transitions/load tracks seamlessly? I mean if I have a bunch of separate projects which I wish to play live and prepare them for live performance situation in advance? Optionally I have Digitone which I can connect as well. Thanks!

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Les Volga, Unfortunately I haven't found a way to switch projects without the audio cutting off and working seamlessly. That's why I tried to keep all my jams/songs in one project (1 song with transitions to another one per bank, which makes a total of 8 songs per set). That works quite well because you can switch smoothly.

@lesvolga1355 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra Thanks! But for some reason I can only make use of both machines DT + DN within a single pattern. When I switch to the 2nd pattern on DT, DN switches automatically to the 2nd pattern too, but here I face another great problem: DN goes silent on all its 4 channels and I can only continue to playt with one machine only =((((

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

@@lesvolga1355 okay that's really weird, never got that. Are you changing patterns within the same project? Because that works for me absolutely flawlessly

@internalreality 2 жыл бұрын

id really like to exchange my digitakt for the syntakt since i dont really enjoy working with samples. still, the takt+tone combo rocks

@robbiep742 2 жыл бұрын

Syntakt is absolutely incredible. As with all elektron devices, there's a laundry list of complaints I have. As with all elektron devices, there's nothing in the market that does it better...

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I feel that! You always miss something with the devices. But if sampling isn't for you then the Syntakt probably is a good choice 🙂

@raysubject 2 жыл бұрын

i would really love on Digitakt being able to bypass some tracks from compressor - for example track kick bypass from compressor but use it as sidechain source to duck rest of tracks while leaving kick track untouched ... that would be literally game changer for me

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Ray, that's absolutely true and something I really miss a lot - being able to sidechain with the DTs compressor would be amazing!

@IvarTryti 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's weird. On the Digitakt you can choose a track as sidechain source, but that also gets compressed, which is not what I want from sidechain compression. I've been doing exactly this but it requires overbridge: set the kick track as sidechain source, then remove that track from the main outs, then in a DAW, put the main outs and the kick track in two separate channels. You'll be hearing the untouched kick track, and the sidechain compressed main outs. It's a great solution, but it would be even better if you could do it on just the Digitakt alone.

@raysubject 2 жыл бұрын

@@IvarTryti yup, that is doable workaround if you have computer connected .. we should spam Elektron support with requests for new configuration in options > routing > bypass compressor [9/9] like the "sent to fx" option is there now .. must be totally easy to implement ...

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

@@IvarTryti nice workaround Ivar, need to try that. And totally agree with both of you: having the option directly on the machine would be great and totally make sense. What a great feature that would be!

@raysubject 2 жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra even plain checkbox "sidechain input bypas compressor" in settings > routing page, which, if checked, would simply make job - any channel selected as sidechain input in compressor page would skip compressor input and just mix with compressor output .. i sent feature request to Elektron support :-) Of course, totally aware it's almost zero chance they will add it based on my request LOL

@jaakbonenstaak8041 2 жыл бұрын

Use the same set up more or less. Digitakt mono sampling/ the sorta clumsy way it handles non one shot recordings kinda makes me wanna switch it out though.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I know what you mean Jaak. I kind of got used to it but other samplers are handling longer samples definitely better. In some points you can really feel that this is a sampler tailored more for one shots

@bennooschersleybn7631 Жыл бұрын

Ich glaube mit Digitakt bist Du symbiotisch :) - das bedeutet künstlerische Freiheit, bei Syntakt nüchtern betrachtet hingegen verdoppelst Du nur deine Gear durch mehr Kanäle, (mehr Quantität im weitesten Sinne und ein weiterer FM Synthese-Sandkasten, das brauchst du sicher nicht) mit Digitakt wirst Du aber zum Wizard und kannst Deinen musikalischen Raum klug nutzen: wo kannst Du denn besser samplen als wie beim Digitakt? Je mehr ich darüber nachdenke und gerade jetzt wo Syntakt raus ist, überlege ich mir ernsthaft eher einen Digitakt zuzulegen ... (ich habe auch Digitone und habe mir heute Dein schönes Soundpack geholt, vielen Dank dafür) Was mir fehlt ist ein Trumpet Sound - vielleicht kannst Du ein Tutorial über trumpet sound machen? lg

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

Danke dir Benno! Ja interessante Gedanken über den Syntakt, da habe ich auch schon drüber nachgedacht. Ich glaube es ist ne super standalone Maschine zum musizieren und es ist glaube ich super in Kombi mit Modular. Aber in meinem Setup wäre es zu viel. Ich bin jetzt gerade happy mit meinem Setup aus Synths + Ableton, das bietet klasse neue Möglichkeiten. Das mit dem Trumpet Sound checke ich mal. Cheers und hoffe das Soundpack gefällt!

@lrkx_ 2 жыл бұрын

Personally I’m quite happy with the Syntakt + Digitakt combo, as between the two I can pretty much do whatever I need. I’d like to see the Syntakt keyboard folding feature on the Digitakt, though. Perhaps they’ll add it one day…

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can imagine that! Sampling and the Syntakt synth capabilities sound like a great combo - and the folding feature looks so dope! Would love to see that on the DT :)

@overtonwindowshopper Жыл бұрын

I’m confused. Couldn’t you always sample the Digitone with the Digitakt?

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

No using the inputs of the Digitakt to route audio through just came with a later firmware update. You could of course before sample the Digitone into the Digitakt but not route audio through the device which would mean that you’d always need to rewire the machines.

@overtonwindowshopper Жыл бұрын

@@MilesKvndra I’m confused. At 7:00 you appear to say “you now are able to sample sounds from the Digitone into the Digitakt.” Couldn’t you always do that? Isn’t that just what sampling is? Your first point is correct: Elektron added the feature to route audio through the DT which opens up external audio to be compressed, which is great 🤩

@MilesKvndra Жыл бұрын

@@overtonwindowshopper yeah I said that a little wrong like I said in my last comment. It was always possible but with the new firmware update Digitone could stay routed into Digitakt which makes sampling quicker and even more convenient

@UserName________ 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. The perfect couple BUT the new name of the game is Threesome. Get a Syntakt and thank me later.

@MilesKvndra 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers man and yeah I probably will at some point. But right now I think it would be a little overkill and would lead to overproducing - happy with my new Mother-32 and I'm exploring it further!