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THE ELRIC SAGA by Michael Moorcock | Book Review

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iWizard

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Күн бұрын

In this video, Jordan discusses the first volume of Michael Moorcock’s sword and sorcery classic The Elric Saga.
~*TIME STAMPS*~
Intro: 0:00
Synopsis: 0:56
Context: 4:40
Is Elric for you?: 11:00
What I liked: 12:42
The Big Idea: 14:16
What I didn’t like: 36:23
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@Johanna_reads
@Johanna_reads Жыл бұрын
I thought I would make a dedicated Elric video, but I probably wouldn't have much to add to the discussion! What an excellent overview and analysis of the Elric Saga Volume 1! Your critiques are very sound though I enjoyed some things more than you, such as The Fortress of the Pearl and the unwise mercy choice. I've embraced the disjunct nature of the Elric Saga as on trend with some other fantasy short stories during that period. It would be amazing to read Elric as a fully developed epic fantasy story. Lastly, I'll just mention that I loved The Big Idea section and its connection to the Wordsworth poem.
@iWizard
@iWizard Жыл бұрын
I hope you make an Elric video at some point because I'd love to hear your thoughts. Also, what you say is true. The disjunct nature of Elric is definitely a staple of that period in fantasy and SF publishing. Cheers, and thanks for the kind words. :)
@djdoc06
@djdoc06 5 ай бұрын
39:20 book explicitly states that the herbs he has to gather to maintain his strength, lose their potency over time. Even if they did, he can’t just carry a limitless supply of such magical preparations. They don’t necessarily consist of aspirin sized pills so he can put 500 in a bottle. It’s not like every local apothecary will have some of the herbs he needs, to purchase. Might as well ask why he runs out of food or water sometimes, “why doesn’t he carry enough food and water to last forever?”
@KelsaRavenlock
@KelsaRavenlock Жыл бұрын
Sailor on the seas of fate is actually book 2, fortress of the pearl was only recently inserted into the timelime and had previously existed outside it as it was written decades later as a standalone Elric story.
@djdoc06
@djdoc06 5 ай бұрын
Dream thieves, multiverses, so much ahead of his time.
@iWizard
@iWizard 4 ай бұрын
Totally agree. A real achievement and such a compelling, weird world. Thanks for watching!
@OliverBrackenbury
@OliverBrackenbury 8 ай бұрын
I've had the good fortune to edit and publish a brand new Elric story, so I can say from personal experience that Mike is as wonderful a person as you could hope for.
@iWizard
@iWizard 8 ай бұрын
I'm so glad to hear that. Also, I'm impressed to hear that you published a new Elric story. Which story, and what publishing outlet do you work for? Cheers, and thanks for watching. :)
@benquirobiequiratman4646
@benquirobiequiratman4646 Жыл бұрын
this was who Skeletor was base on base on Elric Stormebringer Was his sword Of power black sword of Chaos. was the Dragon’s name Chaos spirit poses storm bringer Eternal champion sword StormBringer
@iWizard
@iWizard Жыл бұрын
I also didn't know this. Always nice to learn new trivia. Thanks for watching!
@djdoc06
@djdoc06 5 ай бұрын
Fortress of the Pearl actually made me think that it influenced Inception.
@iWizard
@iWizard 5 ай бұрын
I totally agree. Me too. Perfect comparison.
@3choblast3r4
@3choblast3r4 10 ай бұрын
I want the physical edition you're holding real bad. I've read like 250 or so pages from the Elric Saga and would prefer to finish reading it in a nice hardcover form. But I can only find it with a week or two delivery. By that time I will have finished the first book
@iWizard
@iWizard 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, that’s not ideal, haha, but it looks so good on the shelf it might be worth it just to have it! :)
@benquirobiequiratman4646
@benquirobiequiratman4646 Жыл бұрын
Love Hawkmoon & Duke Avery or Dave
@nicholasbielik7156
@nicholasbielik7156 Жыл бұрын
By the later part of the forth book, he no longer sees himself as a good person. He sees himself as an evil person, but one who seeks to live in his own way by his code, supremely aware that the world hates him, fears him, but is still fascinated by him. Curious to see your response to the second volume.
@iWizard
@iWizard Жыл бұрын
Indeed. I did notice, to your point, that there was a character shift, especially in books 3 and 4. What did you think of volume 2? Cheers, and thanks for watching!
@nicholasbielik7156
@nicholasbielik7156 Жыл бұрын
@@iWizardI read the entire series before Book Two came out! The “original” six books are my favorites: Elric of Melnibone, Sailor on the Seas of Fate, Weird of the White Wolf, The Vanishing Tower, The Bane of the Black Sword, and Stormbringer. The Fortress of the Pearl and The Revenge of the Rose were not my favorites though I enjoyed them. Stormbringer is technically the final novel btw! I have never made it all the way through the final series, included in the final volume in this new edition as The White Wolf, which are strange books that tie into Moorcock’s Von Bek novels and which are really a separate series from main series included in the first two volumes. Btw the first of the Von Bek novels, The War Hound and The World’s Pain, is probably my favorite novel Moorcock has written-a brilliant historical fantasy. Elric remains close to my heart though because I first read him as an nerdy disaffected teen, and, as you note, he’s ready built to appeal to that audience!
@LiamsLyceum
@LiamsLyceum Жыл бұрын
I liked Fortress of the Pearl more on a reread. Sailor on the Seas of Fate was my favorite when I read through them.
@iWizard
@iWizard Жыл бұрын
Fortress of the Pearl is definitely one I could see enjoying more on a reread. Sailor on the Seas of Fate was a lot of fun, too.
@benquirobiequiratman4646
@benquirobiequiratman4646 Жыл бұрын
i like this story Of How his Body is decaying finding the cure But He destroyed those flowers Because he kill some his Oen raise because his people was very evil & darker but He to the e tread destroying his home Land
@benquirobiequiratman4646
@benquirobiequiratman4646 Жыл бұрын
the Boar Army was in Hawkmoon
@KelsaRavenlock
@KelsaRavenlock Жыл бұрын
The DnD drow elf character is directly based on Elric while Elric is built to be the complete opposite of Conan. Not sure how the 4 who are one fight agaisnt the 2 "wizards" is "standard sword and sorcery". Considering the "wizards" are pan-dimensional cosmic beings from outside reality whose very existence can not be translated into a multiversal form. And those are just the underdogs in the fight.
@iWizard
@iWizard Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@nicholasbielik7156
@nicholasbielik7156 Жыл бұрын
To speak to your final criticism about it not feeling as though the saga doesn’t carefully build narrative weight and characterization as it moves along and instead focuses more on images, ideas, and plot, I think that is fair to observe, but it does ignores the way these stories were written. They were not a carefully built series that the author wrote in chronological order carrying themes and ideas through from one book to the other. These were explosions of imagination occasionally launched into the world over several decades. Each time picking up the riffs and themes and just jamming. They were written entirely out of order in a variety of formats. There was no way to build the sort of characterization that modern fantasy readers look for nor did readers of the time even expect that. They were just looking for a ripping good yarn, and Moorcock certainly knows how to deliver that. It’s a different sensibility. Anyway, enjoyed your thoughtful review of this extraordinary series.
@iWizard
@iWizard Жыл бұрын
Yes, you're right. The disjointed nature of the series is certainly an artifact of the time period and the unique way in which these stories were written.
@germanicusternus1982
@germanicusternus1982 Жыл бұрын
I just don’t care about what is happening. It’s just random ramblings with a cool character tying them together. The settings are even nonsensical at worst and at best are barely explained before Elric leaves to go to some newly named place. Fortress of Woe, Dreamland, Sea of Sentiments. Mostly these stories are just fantasy word salad. It reads like he made up the stories in one night while playing DND and drinking liquor. He would make a great dungeon master but he is a terrible author.
@djdoc06
@djdoc06 5 ай бұрын
⁠@@germanicusternus1982 Elric isn’t for everyone. But I dont really see his adventures or locales as random. His primary Iinear timeline is pretty well thought out with a very nicely organized mythology: theres the gods of law (e.g. Donblas) and gods of chaos (Arioch) , various demons of other dimensions, elementals (Straasha), and the Dead gods (Darnizhaan) who ruled before man had language. Spoilers: . Z Z Z Z Z Z Z Elric’s ultimate destiny is to put an end to his entire world, which is part of prehistory, in order to allow for a new world to appear millennia later, a world with much less magic in it, where physics and free will can reign. All the men of Elric’s time, even the young kingdoms, are pre-humans. But many of Moorcock’s books are part of a multiverse, with infinite alternate worlds with different rules and even laws of physics and magic. Fortress of the Pearl is actually not part of the original narrative.
@germanicusternus1982
@germanicusternus1982 5 ай бұрын
Don’t get me wrong there are great ideas in there. But reading the novels is like watching a DandD session. It’s just one place that is unconnected to the previous after another. It’s very episodic. I don’ doubt that there is some overarching plot, but there is too much that I have to sift through that is inconsequential to that for me to get into it as a new reader. Because there are so many settings and rules I never really get invested in any of them or their consequences. The author frankly seems univested in them too because they just disappear for the most part. Making up interesting lore and rules does not make a good story. Setting up consequences is what storytelling is. Elric seems to start over every episode. I made it through four novels. Maybe they are just arranged in an order that makes them seem unrelated but that it the authors fault at the end of the day. There are numerous other authors who are better at connected various plots together, who create equally compelling characters and lore. @@djdoc06
@djdoc06
@djdoc06 5 ай бұрын
@@germanicusternus1982 to each his own. I personally love the fact that he travels through a multiverse (I think it’s the first popular work of fiction to use a multiverse the way DC and Marvel use the concept of multiverse, with alternate versions of hero in different infinite possible worlds), where the rules change on different worlds, and the rules themselves are not spelled out, but need to be worked out. Inception really reminds me of the dream thief story in Sailor on the seas of fate where they enter a girl’s dreams, there are liquid rules, and there are defenders from her mind that kick them out. Elric’s story is more about the character than it is about a specific world and gameplay. I like that in other planes, science may supersede magic. I like that Elric has many adventures that are episodic, just as my own life doesn’t fall into a single straight narrative with just a few themes, that every action I take somehow magically reinforces. Elric is a functional drug addicted genius rockstar warrior, going through wondrous adventures, and I feel he has agency and motivations outside of his main narrative. And the multiverse stuff… when he goes to an alternate realm to retrieve a sword buried with a dead legendary hero of that realm, and Elric’s sorceries don’t work and Stormbringer is just a regular sword that can’t fight on its own or steal souls, and he can’t understand the language of the people but it’s familiar… there’s just this cool feeling of excitement and surprise and danger of the unfamiliar. For me it’s nowhere near as disjointed as it is for you. I’m open to this eternal hero of an ancient prehistory, who is somehow part of our modern multiverse, and has multiple counterparts with legends from other alternate realities. And it’s all tied up with a beautiful metaphor of Elric’s time being one when chaos dominated, and that the age where Order and natural laws can prevail, where justice is an actual thing that could be aspired to, is our actual real history, and can’t exist until Elric essentially destroys himself and his entire universe.
@benquirobiequiratman4646
@benquirobiequiratman4646 Жыл бұрын
where wood Matel go with out Moorcock stories to come out with so Many HeMan. Toys or if there was no Conan MATEL wood loose potential if there was no stories based on Eric and Conan
@scottbruckner4653
@scottbruckner4653 2 ай бұрын
Y'rkoon is very unfortunately named because ever since I started reading various versions of the Elric Omnibus, we've been memeing on his name so fucking hard. Remove the Y'r and you'll probably get the Butt of most of the jokes. Also another thing. In the old versions of the comics they made him a Ginger that looks like a Who from Whoville. I need to shake that artists hand because I hate Y'rkoon so fucking much and making him a Ginger was a stroke of genius.
@iWizard
@iWizard 2 ай бұрын
Lol.
@benquirobiequiratman4646
@benquirobiequiratman4646 Жыл бұрын
I Half to keep in mind these. books are for adults & dark even though we have HeMan Action figur idea we’re all from. these books Conan & Elric Tarzan are books That started. The HeMan & Big Jim toy S only kid friendly
@iWizard
@iWizard Жыл бұрын
I had no idea the HeMan action figure was originally inspired by Elric. How neat! Thanks! :)
@benquirobiequiratman4646
@benquirobiequiratman4646 Жыл бұрын
later on he meats Dorian Hawkmoon
@benquirobiequiratman4646
@benquirobiequiratman4646 Жыл бұрын
StormBringer was S dragon that later became forge in the sword after being slain Chaose another Dragon Mourne blade Black Sword Was Forge into one Zseord. of chaose What was Hawkmoons sword He was another Eternal Champion i forgot What sword He use
@theanalyticsyntheticdichot4404
@theanalyticsyntheticdichot4404 Жыл бұрын
Thoughts about Markus Heitz?
@iWizard
@iWizard Жыл бұрын
Is this the author of Dwarves? I haven't read him yet, but I've heard good things. What do you think? Should I read him?
@theanalyticsyntheticdichot4404
@theanalyticsyntheticdichot4404 Жыл бұрын
@@iWizard His Ulldart series is my all time favorite fantasy series, but the Dwarven books are great as well. He definitely knows how to design an interesting plot, but his humor might not be for everyone.
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