The Embarrassing History of Alex ! - A Street Fighter Character Documentary (1997 - 2022)

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In today's video we look at the embarrassing history of Alex, a Street Fighter 3 character from 1997 who Capcom were hoping would lead a new generation of characters and become the face of Street Fighter. What went wrong for the man that they tried to position as a star? Let us discuss and find out!
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Edited by Ryan of Exploding Music Syndrome
Gameplay and Other Footage Sources
• Street Fighter V - Ale...
Street Fighter V - Alex Arcade Mode (HARD)
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• SFV AE - Alex Arcade M...
SFV AE - Alex Arcade Mode (Full) [Street Fighter 3 Path]
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• Video
Alex's Super Moves Evolution (1997-2020)
Demonstrate
• Street Fighter III: Ne...
Street Fighter III: New Generation (Arcade) - (Longplay - Alex | Hard Difficulty)
TurkishBull
• STREET FIGHTER V : ALE... et19
STREET FIGHTER V : ALEX STORY MODE
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• Street Fighter III: 3r...
Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike - Alex Playthrough
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www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/38773...
www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/45190...
www.deviantart.com/the-switch...
• Street Fighter 1987 - ...
Street Fighter 1987 - Arcade Longplay with Ryu
Game Archive - No Commentary Gameplay
• Saturday Night Slam Ma...
Saturday Night Slam Masters ARCADE 720P HD Playthrough with BIFF SLAMKOVICH
• Street Fighter III: 2n...
Street Fighter III: 2nd Impact - Giant Attack (Arcade) - (Longplay - Alex | Hard Difficulty)
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• Ryu vs Alex street fig...
Ryu vs Alex street fighter 3 3rd strike fight for the future
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• SNK vs Capcom: The Mat...
NK vs Capcom: The Match of the Millenium (Switch) Review
Reviews 2 Go
• Tatsunoko vs Capcom UA...
Tatsunoko vs Capcom UAS - Alex and Batsu Longplay (Wii)
Game Archive - No Commentary Gameplay
• Street Fighter V Arcad...
Street Fighter V Arcade Edition - Alex Arcade Mode (Street Fighter 5 Path)
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Additional Information Sources
streetfighter.fandom.com/wiki...
capcom.fandom.com/wiki/Alex
www.fightersgeneration.com/ch...
streetfighter.com/characters/...

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@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 2 жыл бұрын
Alex failed because he s a grappler, grapplers are considered difficult to master, not for begginers. ryu is a balanced, basic style character, easy to learn how to play
@Ironmanx37
@Ironmanx37 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@Edwinschuur
@Edwinschuur 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. And not only that but grapplers are not as popular a playstyle as shotos. That why many fighting game have the shoto arche type as a main character.
@network323
@network323 2 жыл бұрын
ALEX is my favorite character. I've been completely over shotos for a long time. They are over rated and almost anyone can play with them. I'd even consider guile as a shoto because he has the flash kick. Playing with Alex I feel satisfaction pulling off his variety of moves not like the dull cheap moves the shotos have.
@OptimumTaurus
@OptimumTaurus 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is worth noting that Hulk Hogan's one-dimensional offense he's best known for was not really all he could do. He was never Ricky Steamboat or anything but his old Japanese matches showed he was more than capable of putting together a competent mat wrestling sequence. But being able to have a safe, mindless match crowds would go wild for was what Vince McMahon wanted so that's what he did
@machomusprime50
@machomusprime50 2 жыл бұрын
🎯
@chrismoon2961
@chrismoon2961 2 жыл бұрын
It's too bad, Alex is a nice hybrid character in 3 that does a little bit of everything and his buttons are strong too. I feel like both Alex and SF3 was an attempt by capcom to really try to get out of the box, with many of the game mechanics and characters feeling more experimental and nuanced than we'd seen up until that point.
@warrenbradford2597
@warrenbradford2597 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it is kind of tragic.
@brandonspencer5594
@brandonspencer5594 2 жыл бұрын
Fans killed the push to get out of the box….and the same is probly gonna happen to Luke who is set up to be the new hero
@coyotestylepro1150
@coyotestylepro1150 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonspencer5594 Which is why i always say You cant trust t/ fans Fans are fickle
@Kanti852
@Kanti852 2 жыл бұрын
@@brandonspencer5594 And that's why I'm not a Street Fighter fan. A majority of the fanbase seems to be unwilling to play outside the box, and in turn the developers are less willing to experiment and create outside the box.
@fightingmedialounge519
@fightingmedialounge519 2 жыл бұрын
So are developers coyote. Being"fickle" isn't exclusive to one group of people.
@TheDeFiler316
@TheDeFiler316 2 жыл бұрын
Capcom to Ryu "So we need you to pass the torch to Alex" Ryu "That doesn't work for me brother"
@MMBN4bluemoon
@MMBN4bluemoon 21 күн бұрын
Not the Hogan creative control card😂
@theotherjared9824
@theotherjared9824 2 жыл бұрын
The embarrassing history of Top Hat Gaming saying "Rye-You."
@brandonspencer5594
@brandonspencer5594 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he does it to fuck with people like you 😂
@cyric2010
@cyric2010 2 жыл бұрын
I've always loved Alexs visual design. I feel confident that his look was somewhat inspired by Axl Rose too.
@blakemoore2660
@blakemoore2660 2 жыл бұрын
He is. The video failed to mentioned that.
@capcelart
@capcelart 4 ай бұрын
Funny always thought he was inspired by axel from mad gear gang final fight who was also was inspired by Axl rose
@theotherjared9824
@theotherjared9824 2 жыл бұрын
If a company really tries to push a character as the face of a franchise, there is an 80-90% chance everyone except that character will go on to be fan favorites.
@ironmaster6496
@ironmaster6496 2 жыл бұрын
yeah Disney pretty much proved that with captain marvel and the inhumans
@pacman10124
@pacman10124 2 жыл бұрын
I get that you mean this as a rule in general, but don't forget Ryu is a much much worse offender of this category
@dislikebomb6680
@dislikebomb6680 2 жыл бұрын
@@pacman10124 At least in Ryu's case, he was there since the first game. He popularized the shoto archetype
@tactical-funky9565
@tactical-funky9565 Жыл бұрын
untrue in lukes case
@KKHell
@KKHell 7 ай бұрын
@@tactical-funky9565 Luke's reception is more mixed if anything. People dislike him because he's not a certain fireball-spamming Kenshiro knockoff.
@warrenbradford2597
@warrenbradford2597 2 жыл бұрын
Alex may never be as big of a Street Fighter character as ryu, but he will always be remembered as great unique take on wrestlers to Street Fighter fans everywhere.
@solblackguy
@solblackguy 2 жыл бұрын
He was definitely the closest Capcom came to making a SNK style grappler.
@moyza_
@moyza_ 5 ай бұрын
I really liked how they used mostly 180⁰ motions to his moves and the special was simply 360⁰ instead of 720⁰. Which I think is pretty close of he being a SNK grappler as mentioned in the comment above.
@warrenbradford2597
@warrenbradford2597 4 ай бұрын
@@solblackguy I see.🙂
@warrenbradford2597
@warrenbradford2597 4 ай бұрын
@@moyza_ I see.🙂
@phabiorules
@phabiorules 2 жыл бұрын
I think the main reason why Alex never caught on was because he didn't have any projectile attacks. A common strategy for new players is to just spam fireballs. The fact that he couldn't do that meant players had to charge into the danger zone, which intimidates many new comers.
@skeeterious1
@skeeterious1 2 жыл бұрын
I see where you were going but Yun, Yang and Makoto were all popular without projectiles. Alex skills actually beat firehall characters but for the general public they didn't like him. Even tho he is popular in the fgc.. just casual players didn't like him as much.
@skipfuego6339
@skipfuego6339 2 жыл бұрын
@@skeeterious1 just like they didn't like Dee jay
@rogeliotarucjr9380
@rogeliotarucjr9380 2 жыл бұрын
@@skeeterious1 yun, yang, and makoto has very fast pressure attack which if use properly is better than projectiles. Alex has none of neither plus he is agonizing slow recovery of his attacks making him very open to punish.
@skeeterious1
@skeeterious1 2 жыл бұрын
@@rogeliotarucjr9380 true yet they don't have the range of his attacks. If you understand the matchups, Alex beats them 7-4. Simply because he does more damage as well as has a higher health bar.
@Klj320
@Klj320 2 жыл бұрын
@@skipfuego6339they didn't like DJ? 😳 I loved DJ
@LordCornshoe
@LordCornshoe 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of people have said it, but I'll say it too; Alex is fun to play as, but hard to win with. If you manage to get in your opponent's head and they fall into the Alex whirlwind, you'll have a blast. And then other times you can't get near an opponent and you feel utterly helpless with him.
@paingain100
@paingain100 2 жыл бұрын
Never push a difficult to master character as a main. Its almost universal to fighting games.
@monchete9934
@monchete9934 2 жыл бұрын
@@paingain100 Meanwhile Tekken 7 has Heihachi and Kazuya as its main characters yet they are hard to master and it's still one of the most popular fighting games out there.
@paingain100
@paingain100 2 жыл бұрын
@@monchete9934 yes tekken is a 3d fighter and is exceptional unto itself at that. There is almost no comparison amongst other 3d fighters as they have not performed even comparably to tekken.
@rogeliotarucjr9380
@rogeliotarucjr9380 2 жыл бұрын
@@monchete9934 i do not know if kazuya and heihachi is hard to master. i think they are incredibly easy to master.
@theobserver4214
@theobserver4214 2 жыл бұрын
@@monchete9934 There’s also the Virtua Fighter series, with Akira.
@randomcharacter6501
@randomcharacter6501 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly get the wrestling angle. Mike Haggar was hugely popular and that's his style. But a grappler is way easier to play in a beat em up than a 1v1 fighter.
@BigOnum81
@BigOnum81 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe that's why they wanted to push a grappler as the main character? How can they make a grappler be the focus? Balance mechanics around him, you got parries out of it. The problem probably lies in his moveset.
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I loved about Alex was how you could spin your opponent around with his flash chop and that would actually affect what throw was executed, like if the opponent had their back to him they'd get the German Suplex instead of the powerbomb, that was immensely cool. Even Hyper Bomb tuned into four suplexes.
@somber8233
@somber8233 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget his back fierce went from a headbutt to a chokehold MGS1 style!
@Pewpewpew182
@Pewpewpew182 2 жыл бұрын
Embarrassing? I love the dude, fun to play. Lex Luger of the street fighter series is an awesome comparison! Lol
@darrellwilliams1714
@darrellwilliams1714 2 жыл бұрын
Lex Luger was a failure too. That's why he called him that lol. Remember his run after Hogan left wwf? Lol
@heartbreakkid2
@heartbreakkid2 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrellwilliams1714 he might be to young for that but I remember that and lex was garbage
@chrischris-gs2vt
@chrischris-gs2vt 2 жыл бұрын
After hearing this analogue, I want a Bret Analogue in Street Fighter.
@RG-lr4pk
@RG-lr4pk 11 ай бұрын
@@jenn5628 because Luger was supposed to be Hogan's replacement but failed in that role.
@GHite-vf8wr
@GHite-vf8wr 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in the minority but Alex is actually my favorite Street Fighter. His move sets can be absolutely brutal if you learn to use him correctly. Also thought his design looked freaking awesome. But that's my opinion. Edit: Was not a huge fan of his redesign in SF5. In my opinion he was too thick and looked like he could barely move. Hope they slender him down a bit if he's in 6.
@neonthunder3261
@neonthunder3261 2 жыл бұрын
FACTS! Alex and Remy are both two of my favorites, and I loathed Alex’s 5 design. Something is just off in his proportions, and ruins it. Alex regardless is an awesome character who could use more fleshing out
@machewgun503
@machewgun503 2 жыл бұрын
Tank characters are extremly dangerous if you know how yo use them, Urien can punish you if you got on the corners
@ericksoler1221
@ericksoler1221 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%. I have a figure of his old design and it's possibly my favorite figure of any human I own. I never bothered with his new figures
@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292
@yourewallsareveryconvenien8292 Жыл бұрын
@Aaron9 Opinions exists. Learn to accept them.
@TheBurningEngram
@TheBurningEngram 11 ай бұрын
They definitely botched his design in 5. His model doesn't fit his old school idle animation, and he certainly doesn't look like the 17 year old he's supposed to be. Hoping to see him in a future fighters pass in 6
@waddledee_legends3726
@waddledee_legends3726 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is my boy He's always my go to character whenever I can play him
@blyat8832
@blyat8832 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed a lot of character in this game had a bunch of weird combinations of old fighters. Necro was dhalsim and blanka,Remy was Guile and Sagat,and Alex was zanfief and Dee jay. Weird
@wtfsamusidk7574
@wtfsamusidk7574 2 жыл бұрын
Love mileena
@blakemoore2660
@blakemoore2660 2 жыл бұрын
That is because the game was originally designed to be a different IP.
@blyat8832
@blyat8832 2 жыл бұрын
@@blakemoore2660 yeah, I honestly wonder what the original game was supposed to be instead of it being street fighter.
@MLJ-zp3ju
@MLJ-zp3ju 2 жыл бұрын
How is Alex at all like Dee Jay? Is it because he has a slash type move, one that works completely differently from Dee Jay's? He doesn't have anything close to Jacknife Maximum, Machine Gun Upper, or a projectile, and he has multiple command grabs that Dee Jay does not. How exactly are the two at all similar again, outside of both having some kind of "slash" move?
@persona83
@persona83 2 жыл бұрын
Never liked SF3 roster. They're most a ripoff of SF2 but without the charisma.
@TheOldest
@TheOldest 2 жыл бұрын
Everything about SF3 and its production is so peculiar. 20 years later SF3 chronological is the latest game in the franchise and I think Capcom been afraid to make a true sequel following because of all the mess behind it.
@ironmaster6496
@ironmaster6496 2 жыл бұрын
its a shame becaue it is such a great game and the animations are just "chef's kiss"
@JokersVsZombies
@JokersVsZombies 2 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with Alex being the main is his moveset wasn't really for the casual player.
@runakobannister3316
@runakobannister3316 2 жыл бұрын
I mained him and makoto in 3rd strike. He really isnt a beginner friendly character but boy oh boy when u manage a comeback combo ended with his command grab super. Pure ecstasy
@TheStriderSyd
@TheStriderSyd 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Alex was that much of a failure.....now Necali on the other hand, I think really was a real failure.
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Alex is no failure. People just don't like change but I can't see him defeating people like Ryu. Necali needs to be written out of canon. He made zero sense and was a weak villian over all
@marianoclerici3986
@marianoclerici3986 2 жыл бұрын
I can't stand hearing people mispronounce Ryu like that. It should be punishable by law.
@persona83
@persona83 2 жыл бұрын
English speakers will never learn to say it right.
@antiseize11
@antiseize11 Жыл бұрын
​@@persona83 Nuh, it's just TopHat
@danielorozco2297
@danielorozco2297 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I have played Street Fighter for years and have never heard of this "Rayu" person.
@hortinus
@hortinus Жыл бұрын
Rye-yoo for life!
@persona83
@persona83 Жыл бұрын
@Aaron Roberto you may "see" it correctly. But you probably pronounce it wrong. English natives can't speak Ryu's name right, and that's a fact. Get over it.
@Ucey365
@Ucey365 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is an awesome character to use for veteran fighters. I truly enjoy using him.
@brendenhassler4613
@brendenhassler4613 2 жыл бұрын
They figured; "all we have to do is make him blonde, and the Westerners will automatically love him"😂😂😂😂😂😂
@juanchi2668
@juanchi2668 11 ай бұрын
It just works
@Eunos
@Eunos 2 жыл бұрын
Be interesting to see if Capcom learns from their mistakes with Luke who seems to be getting a bit of a push in Street Fighter.. That said I really like Alex, he has a cool design imho and even if he isn't the outright main character is still a great edition.
@randomcharacter6501
@randomcharacter6501 2 жыл бұрын
Luke seems like Alex 2.0 imo (not in playstyle, but positioning as the face of SF)
@network323
@network323 2 жыл бұрын
The thing about Luke is that he is still considered somewhat a shoto. His rapid punches are able to be shot from almost full screen and he also has an uppercut like Ryu and Ken. To me it seems like shotos sell more with the players and are more popular unfortunately.
@SabreSmasher
@SabreSmasher 2 жыл бұрын
I dont even think Luke is going to be the quote on quote "Main character" of Street Fighter. I think what Capcom meant by him being the future of SF is mechanic wise which i can definitely see from his gameplay
@kathrena1213
@kathrena1213 2 жыл бұрын
capcom might connect to luke to alex brawler vs grappler
@Kanti852
@Kanti852 2 жыл бұрын
@@network323 I agree that it's unfortunate
@joelfamilia9989
@joelfamilia9989 2 жыл бұрын
Dude is my main since New Generation. His move set alone signifies that Capcom was definitely attempting to make Alex the main character. He has the most versatile move set in SF history. It is a compilation of various SF characters: Birdie (Elbow Slash, DDT), T-Hawk (Flying Cross Chop), Guile (Stomp), Ryu/Shotos (Flying Knee). You can win a match with Alex without having to throw a single power bomb. He’s more than just a grappler, but rather more as the first attempt to create a “mma” style character by Capcom combining different styles of movesets.
@Richterdgf
@Richterdgf 2 жыл бұрын
Guile doesn’t have a stomp you fraud.
@Old_Man_Jay
@Old_Man_Jay 2 жыл бұрын
@@Richterdgf forget to take your meds eh?
@randybryantjr3909
@randybryantjr3909 2 жыл бұрын
@@Richterdgf He's referring to the input of the stomp.😄
@parkerkrakowiak2990
@parkerkrakowiak2990 2 жыл бұрын
@@Old_Man_Jay how do u get off being so smug when you're wrong
@joelfamilia9989
@joelfamilia9989 2 жыл бұрын
@@Richterdgf I was talking about the input genius lol. Someone got a medal today.
@Wildzide00
@Wildzide00 2 жыл бұрын
Over 30 years of Street Fighter and people still dont know how to pronounce "Ryu"
@marplatense31
@marplatense31 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not the biggest fan of grapplers, but I love Alex! I think he's one of the coolest characters in SF! Have you done an episode on Juri? Please do that! Also Terry Bogard! Please!
@DecoyMcClary
@DecoyMcClary 2 жыл бұрын
Capcom doesn't care about most characters. They have Ryu and Chun Li so they won't try to push new ones. Snk does a better job with new characters.
@baskogitlog7276
@baskogitlog7276 2 жыл бұрын
yep terry bogart,kyo,k dash,ash crimson and rock howard.
@juanpineiro4507
@juanpineiro4507 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed sir 👍
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 2 жыл бұрын
SNK has always been more wholesome
@ironmaster6496
@ironmaster6496 2 жыл бұрын
strongly agreed, thats why i prefer KOF
@maxspecs
@maxspecs 2 жыл бұрын
After Street Fighter 3 largely failed *until* Ryu and Chun Li were put into the game, can you blame them? The general masses love them.
@TheSoundSpell
@TheSoundSpell 2 жыл бұрын
Oozing Americana… So, they wanted their own Terry Bogard?
@pushguysvancouver736
@pushguysvancouver736 2 жыл бұрын
Since Capcom has so many wrestlers now. When are we getting Muscle Bomber Duo remix? Yes Zangief, Honda, Mika, Birdie, & Hakan should join Alex & Haggar in the Muscle Bomber world!
@alvinjohnson5037
@alvinjohnson5037 2 жыл бұрын
I assume Hugo and Poison are also involved in this?
@brittislove
@brittislove 2 жыл бұрын
He's a lot of fun to play, but I don't choose him if I am trying to win
@network323
@network323 2 жыл бұрын
I play with him a lot in SF5 but yes I lose a lot in ranked matches. I'm pretty good with him and I'll choose him any day rather than the cheap shoto characters.
@blyat8832
@blyat8832 2 жыл бұрын
You know there was a problem when Alex was supposed to be a main character but no one even remembered him being one
@coldh8terade737
@coldh8terade737 2 жыл бұрын
No one knew he was a main character because they're only familiar with the one epilogue game (3rd Strike) that didn't feature the full story to SFIII. That's what New Generation/2nd Impact was about. Those games stayed in obscurity for decades. The problem was not with Alex himself.
@tokenstandpoint93
@tokenstandpoint93 2 жыл бұрын
SF3 was and still is my favorite series of the franchise; Alex is also my second favorite character from SF3. He was the third debut character I learned to use and the first person of the SF3 original cast that I beat Gill with. I really think Capcom should continue with him as the new main but I guess I'm in the minority.
@coldh8terade737
@coldh8terade737 2 жыл бұрын
His story's done, so I'm sure he won't be the protagonist still. Regardless, his part in SFIII was meant to lead to something pretty significant, so he should definitely stick around.
@eddylex4921
@eddylex4921 2 жыл бұрын
Alex in his development stage and on paper but never mentioned in the games was a ex cop who quit the force. This is kinda like how in the planning stages Mokoto was Ryu's sister.
@solblackguy
@solblackguy 2 жыл бұрын
Yo! I kind of remember that. Wasn't Q supposed to be Chun-Li's father too?
@eddylex4921
@eddylex4921 2 жыл бұрын
@@solblackguy don't remember that? That would have been cool though.
@fredcasdensworld
@fredcasdensworld 2 жыл бұрын
Oh I'm sure that the mixed reception to Street Fighter III as a whole had nothing to do with Alex's failure to become iconic
@DenDensetsu
@DenDensetsu 2 жыл бұрын
Has less to do with the quality of the character, more with people hating change, and having their favorites missing from the roster. Not having them in the game at all was the big mistake. Really hate how they backpedaled on Alex's story in third strike and went back to making it all about Ryu. Back to the same old same old. Really hope when they eventually do make a game that takes places after Third Strike, they go somewhere interesting with it for once.
@aliastheabnormal
@aliastheabnormal 2 жыл бұрын
Alex could always start his own NwO faction. That would set him apart from what's his face.
@rockk9753
@rockk9753 2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterhuffman4520 wcw not wwe
@anotherunreliablenarrator
@anotherunreliablenarrator 2 жыл бұрын
Street Fighter fans complaining about absolutely every new character and feature and then collectively wondering why Capcom keeps going back to Street Fighter 2
@ethelegendary6961
@ethelegendary6961 2 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance you could look at ken's "deciple" Sean next?
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 2 жыл бұрын
I second that.
@milltymefresh
@milltymefresh 2 жыл бұрын
@@snapclub8751 I third that
@tiradegrandmarshal
@tiradegrandmarshal 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Sean. a.k.a. "Don't call me Dan." Was actually a legit strong character (gameplay-wise) in NG and especially 2I, and then in 3S they actually made him Dan-tier, lol.
@PHSDM104
@PHSDM104 2 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd feel the need for Richard to say, "jabroni". 🤣🤣🤣
@mr.checkyourself4672
@mr.checkyourself4672 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like Luke taking over Alex role in the next Street Fighter game.
@lordkwazz36
@lordkwazz36 2 жыл бұрын
And he'll probably be a big fail too 🤷🏿‍♂️
@SouthTownChi
@SouthTownChi 2 жыл бұрын
As the new Lex Luger? lol
@brandonspencer5594
@brandonspencer5594 2 жыл бұрын
@@SouthTownChi well he is mma and has tatoos and a loudmouth like most mma champs these days so
@freakadelic7495
@freakadelic7495 2 жыл бұрын
Apropos of Street Fighter movies, they've never quite hit the mark with audiences, fans and general audiences alike. Some thoughts occurred to me recently on what would make for a Street Fighter movie that'd fit the core experience we all have. See what you think: It would need: -A very heightened world where honed fighters can high-jump kick and shoot energy projectiles cuz it's just a regular thing there. Nobody bats an eye about that kind of thing. None of this "toned-down" moves we've seen in SF movies thus far. -The core experiential 1v1, "be the best" quality that we all know and love about Street Fighter as the main focus, not the shadaloo stuff with 1v1 fights just shoehorned in. The shadaloo stuff is in there somewhere of course since it's key lore that must be addressed, but it's the tournament of "being the best" that takes center stage. -Fights actually take place at various home spots of different characters as a worldwide phenomenon, the spectacle of Street Fighters doing those street fights. Fighters travel to various spots to challenge a high profile fighter of the region so as to gain notoriety for themselves too, and climb the overall tournament ladder. Sometimes more than one fighter travels to somewhere, resulting in new challengers. Fights are usually taking place somewhere, and it's of some advantage that newbies and seasoned fighters alike travel to fight. -There always has to be witnesses to verify wins/losses, be it eager crowds (as seen in various stage backgrounds) and/or livestreamed cuz of course someone will always be livestreaming this stuff. (As far as streaming goes, fights can be streamed and watched at different venues and switched between not unlike an NFL Sunday package.) Or at the very least, a panel of judges that have always been there to verify the results that we simply never saw whenever we played Street Fighter cuz they were simply off camera. -Some fights of course can take place apart from tournament purposes, be it friendly sparring matches, shadaloo crime related stuff, personal scores, etc. The last thing that is worth a thought: should it be some kind of super stylized animation, like cgi or hand drawn? It'd have its advantages, such as getting to make idealized versions of every character that you couldn't find in real life, like Zangief or Bison. Or perhaps live-action is the best way to go with the trade-off that some characters won't be fully idealized.
@WarriorBoy
@WarriorBoy 2 жыл бұрын
They should definitely not address or explain the powers and abilities of the cast, it should just be how that world is. Another key I feel would be having at decent amount of self-awareness, fun, and silliness in it...but intentionally, not like the Van Damme version (which is debatable, some of that was obviously supposed to be funny) but still including great fight scenes. SF isn't Mortal Kombat, something like Legend of Chun Li (uck) was way too serious of a tone for Street Fighter. Fun stuff like even including the bonus stages where some other character challenges Ryu or Ken to break apart a car or a bunch of barrels would be perfect for setting the tone.
@Dave0G
@Dave0G 2 жыл бұрын
OOF - that SFV model does him soooooo bad! Enjoyed him in my limited Dreamcast play of 3rd Strike but that wasn't too much as we had to chose between that and Soul Calibur to play...
@RDSArcade
@RDSArcade 2 жыл бұрын
I hated the character model for Alex in SF5. The one used for TATSUNOKU vs. CAPCOM was superior. Played better too.
@Flokoli1
@Flokoli1 2 жыл бұрын
His model in 5 looks exactly like Ufc fighter Todd Duffee
@Flokoli1
@Flokoli1 2 жыл бұрын
@Dante Ryujin I remember telling him on IG a while ago and even him was shook 😂😂
@Syntox
@Syntox 2 жыл бұрын
Alex sounds like he was created by Vince McMahon, trying to force *insert large untalented giant from Ruthless Agression - Today* down the audience's throat
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 2 жыл бұрын
I think Alex should appear in SF6, but in the story, he should team up with Ryu in order to defeat the game’s big bad villain.
@VerdeAntico
@VerdeAntico 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sakura should be the main character of SF6 and Ryu should be retired, lost or the villain. Sakura should leave her moveset and have the moveset of Ryu instead as in the meantime he should have been her teacher.
@DonShotta24
@DonShotta24 2 жыл бұрын
@@VerdeAntico no.
@VerdeAntico
@VerdeAntico 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonShotta24 Why?
@blackout1524
@blackout1524 2 жыл бұрын
@@VerdeAntico Why should Sakura replace Ryu? Why would Ryu take her as his 1st student when he shows no interest in doing so?
@VerdeAntico
@VerdeAntico 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackout1524 From a lore point of view, I'm not an expert, but I think Ryu doesn't hate Sakura and he can change point of view after Bison's defeat and having the satsui no hado under control. We know SF3 is in the future; do you prefere Alex or Sean as main character instead of Sakura? Sakura, Karin, Ibuki, Makoto, Ed, Falke.. the young ones.. what about them? Do you want to see Ryu doing something new or, again, having issues with the satsui no hado?
@SuperXAsh
@SuperXAsh 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically he was the only character I was able to get the closest to defeating Gill on the arcade machine. Never had ANY problem with Alex. I guess his move set worked for my style
@blakemoore2660
@blakemoore2660 2 жыл бұрын
Gill is super easy to cheese. Spam what ever forward moving special your character has. After a knock down, walk back a little and spam the same move. Throw in a couple sweeps every so often and boom, an easy win.
@TheMagnificentMongoSlade
@TheMagnificentMongoSlade 2 жыл бұрын
The huge muscle-bound American is such a stereotype in Asia. In the movie FEARLESS, Jet Li's character has to fight s huge muscular American fighter to prove the superiority of Chinese martial arts (that muscly American fighter was really Australian pro wrestler Nathan Jones who failed miserably in WWE). The stereotype is based on the success of big Americans in Japan. Stan Hansen, Bruiser Brody, Hulk Hogan etc. Hogan became the archetype due to worldwide popularity and his more muscular build.
@n.b.l.5709
@n.b.l.5709 2 жыл бұрын
wow, so thats its origin...
@Unquestionable
@Unquestionable 2 жыл бұрын
I still remember being a little bothered by Street Fighter III being a bomb back in the day. I used to play at least a few matches every time I was at the local laser tag place. Of course it didn't help it was up against stuff like Tekken 3, which was on of the most fun and easy to approach fighting games of the period.
@devingiles6597
@devingiles6597 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Top Hat Gaming Man. You should definitely do a Street Fighter character documentary video on Ryu's rival, Ken Masters.
@Ganmorg
@Ganmorg Жыл бұрын
SF has a little something I’d like to call the “New Hero Curse” where if Capcom introduces a new character as the face of the game they’re inevitably going to be overshadowed by Ryu and left out of the next game. It happened with Alex in IV, happened with Abel in V, and while Rashid has kinda managed to avoid this fate he’s still relegated to DLC in 6, it seems. Same will probably happen to Luke in 7, but we’ll see
@khalyolo8429
@khalyolo8429 2 жыл бұрын
I'll never understand why they didn't just give us Gunloc. He was already in universe, almost identical to what they wanted from Alex, and would have gotten us another Saturday Night Slam Masters.
@rellmonshade3241
@rellmonshade3241 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought Alex was from SNSM...
@solblackguy
@solblackguy 2 жыл бұрын
Plus Gunloc was supposed to be Guile's cousin or something
@CometX-ing
@CometX-ing 2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting the impression that you're not too keen on Alex.
@kaisser8915
@kaisser8915 2 жыл бұрын
tbh even though Alex is one of my favorite Street Fighter characters, I really don't think he is good enough as mascot material even during Street Fighter 3's run
@JihadBunnydick
@JihadBunnydick 2 жыл бұрын
Who would you have chosen as SF3's mascot?
@kaisser8915
@kaisser8915 2 жыл бұрын
@@JihadBunnydick Probably Ryu.
@kaisser8915
@kaisser8915 Жыл бұрын
@@jenn5628 if it ain't broke don't fix it
@barrysmith4610
@barrysmith4610 2 жыл бұрын
Alex was one of those characters that certainly grew on me with time. I think hes pretty cool. Hope hes in SF6. As for future character documentaries I would love ones on: Feilong, Deejay and Guy. Also Top hat if possible can you do vids on the status of the Capcom VS series. Is there a way for Capcom to continue it with other companies or to just fight themselves
@terryterryd
@terryterryd 2 жыл бұрын
Love the nod to Owen. One of his best and most memorable heel characters. "That last little nugget!"👍👍😍🤩
@nukelex
@nukelex 2 жыл бұрын
I think what hurt him in SfV was the 3d model they used. With a weird looking face and strange build fans of Alex all exclaimed that he didn’t look right. Modders actually came up with a better 3d model for him inspired by his look in 3rd strike.
@MKF30
@MKF30 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I laughed so hard when he said "this ladies and gentlemen is the embarrassing failure of Alex! Yeaaaahh!" 🤣 can't be any worse than Dan.😁 nice video.
@darrellwilliams1714
@darrellwilliams1714 2 жыл бұрын
But Dan is a popular character..
@omegarugal9283
@omegarugal9283 2 жыл бұрын
failed because he was meant to be the new ryu...
@heartbreakkid2
@heartbreakkid2 2 жыл бұрын
@@omegarugal9283 facts you can't make the main character in a fighting game a grappler
@randomcharacter6501
@randomcharacter6501 2 жыл бұрын
Dan is bad on purpose, and is still popular. So a success lol
@heartbreakkid2
@heartbreakkid2 2 жыл бұрын
@@randomcharacter6501 true about the popularity but when has anyone won a contest with Dan or Alex
@foughtthelol
@foughtthelol 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't think it was worthwhile telling his name in Muscle Bomber is Aleksey Zalazof?
@solblackguy
@solblackguy 2 жыл бұрын
I think Alex would've caught on if he were a more traditional grappler with a 360 and some vacuum shenanigans. I'm a career Gief main and never liked using Alex because he was so awkward. As a main character, Capcom pretty much kneecapped him by adding Ryu and Ken into the game. People forget that Charlie was basically the main character of Street Fighter Alpha and literally beat Bison with his bare hands.
@TheShockVox
@TheShockVox 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree with the first part. In fact I think Alex being a hybrid worked to his benefit more than if he was more of a pure grappler. He’d be a harder sell for many people.
@orchid_carmen
@orchid_carmen 2 жыл бұрын
It's also because he's never been a great character, he has like 2 special links in the SF3 series and both of them are standing that alone handicapped him enough with the general gameplay of that series but just in general he doesn't have great buttons along with plenty other things combined makes him not that great.
@NoelComiX
@NoelComiX 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is one of my favs!!
@TheRealJPhillips
@TheRealJPhillips 2 жыл бұрын
I only ever saw him as a zangief fill in. Hes not even mid tier. Maybe capcom should have finally made Slam Masters 2 and tried him there
@LowellLucasJr.
@LowellLucasJr. 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Alex defeated Ryu in the SF3 canon...but with Capcoms ugly retcons/ changes in story, it's no surprise on the outcome. Still, great coverage my man!
@solblackguy
@solblackguy 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when you beat the game with Alex, his ending is about being surprised Alex won lol.
@realamericannegro977
@realamericannegro977 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading Alex didn't stand a chance against Ryu
@konstantinkoverchenko9587
@konstantinkoverchenko9587 2 жыл бұрын
I swear, the Alex character seems like he was based off the skinny teenager from the arcade raid in Robocop 2. >_
@FireBomberBassist
@FireBomberBassist 2 жыл бұрын
If he wasn’t a grappler and something else he might have had more appeal.
@RafaelFMFerreira
@RafaelFMFerreira 2 жыл бұрын
His mispronunciation of Ryu's name almost makes me want to stop watching, lol. Great video though
@midnighter2k
@midnighter2k 2 жыл бұрын
It's the worst, and no excuze in the modern world to say rAh yOu, RaY Uu or other english butchering of the name.
@suryans5851
@suryans5851 2 жыл бұрын
Same! He is actually capable of pronouncing it properly because I've heard him say it in "shoryuken" & he doesn't pronounce "Ryo" as "rye-yo" either so I'm pretty sure he's just trolling us now to get a reaction.
@brandonspencer5594
@brandonspencer5594 2 жыл бұрын
@@midnighter2k he does it purposely to fuck with people who actually give a shit about that lol
@dynamicentry6808
@dynamicentry6808 2 жыл бұрын
He couldn't be the main character but still a great character non the less
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 2 жыл бұрын
It hurt *my* feelings that you called Alex the Lex Luger of Street Fighter. I mean we're talking WWF run Lex. That's a deep cut man.
@jessemedina5436
@jessemedina5436 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is literally one of my fav sf characters ever
@joshmcgootermier2301
@joshmcgootermier2301 2 жыл бұрын
I really like Alex as a character but have always thought the positioning as a main character was a bit questionable. Honestly a character that was on my list of ones I'd hope that you'd cover. Never open the KoF bag of worms! Like the distinction between what you'd LD are doing with your focussing on genres and characters while her channel touches on lesser known hardware or prototypes. (Outside of the most recent video)
@nessdapkboyo4755
@nessdapkboyo4755 2 жыл бұрын
He's still my favorite street fighter character
@axiscrevite
@axiscrevite 2 жыл бұрын
I still think Alex is a cool character. 💪🏽
@snapclub8751
@snapclub8751 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@RainSpitter
@RainSpitter 2 жыл бұрын
The character had fans asking for he's return in SF5 how is that a failure? also Ryu has been beaten it street fighter lore on numerous occasions and he uses that has motivation.
@coldh8terade737
@coldh8terade737 2 жыл бұрын
He's just being a fanboy. Ryu is the stupidest, most bland and boring protagonist there is. Anytime you have a character being propped up as the new lead, his fans can't help but deflect. Which is ridiculous, because Capcom knows they have to keep Ryu in the game regardless. He just doesn't do anything important ever. The only reason Alex didn't catch on with people as the new lead is because New Generation itself didn't. And neither did 2nd Impact. Those were the only games that properly told the main story to SFIII, whereas 3rd Strike was just an aftermath where nothing substantial happened. It wasn't until the 30th Anniversary Collection came out that people finally learned 3rd Strike isn't the only SFIII game. Beyond that, Alex is a great character: one of the prime examples of what a real street fighter is next to Cody, with a backstory that some gold-star families can relate to. He's fun to play. And as you mentioned, he's proven to have a big enough following for him to be brought back in later games. He's anything BUT a failure, much to this guy's chagrin.
@matmusada
@matmusada 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. I don't see this video as a rip but rather an objective look at the character. It's interesting just how applicable wrestling terms and the sort are to both the character and fighting games on the whole. I don't think that SF3 being on the ill-fasted Dreamcast really helped Alex case either. Between that, poor sales numbers, the struggling arcade scene at that point, one could say that Alex is also like Diesel in that he was a low-drawing champion and just Diesel it was through no fault of his own.
@rickyandreou
@rickyandreou 2 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the heyday of Street Fighter II & Street Fighter alpha series but Street Fighter III completely flew under the radar for all but the most dedicated Street Fighter fans. My older brother even had a Dreamcast & had third strike at one point but none of us played it much. I literally didn't even know that this Alex character existed until a decade & half later & learned about 90% of what I knew about the character from this video.
@XHEADTOWALLX
@XHEADTOWALLX 2 жыл бұрын
It's about time someone did a video on this
@LobsterPuncher
@LobsterPuncher 2 жыл бұрын
Alex didn't fail. The plebes failed to recognize his awesomeness. At ease losah!
@venomfang8560
@venomfang8560 2 жыл бұрын
👏
@Lee-fw5bd
@Lee-fw5bd 2 жыл бұрын
He failed to prove his apparent awesomeness to the masses
@Hektols
@Hektols 2 жыл бұрын
The mediocre live action movie with Guile as the main character and the superb anime movie with Ryu as the main character cemented Ryu's position as Street Fighter's favorite character worldwide. The Alpha series also gave a cliffhanger with Ryu's struggle with his evil part, something that was not adressed in the Street Fighter III trilogy.
@phillipjohnson8903
@phillipjohnson8903 2 жыл бұрын
I'll eat my hat the day a heavy grappler character is flagship character of any franchise.
@hortinus
@hortinus Жыл бұрын
8:12 just noticed spikey haired punk in the bg doing the moonwalk lol
@pclord20xx
@pclord20xx 2 жыл бұрын
When SFIII launched I gave it a chance in the arcade paying $0.50 per game since it was considered a premium game, selected Alex thinking he was a Guile knockoff and was ultimately disappointed 🤷🏾‍♂️
@AgentownshipRebelion
@AgentownshipRebelion 2 жыл бұрын
I like Alex well enough. His entire game came out when interest in fighting games was waning. He's considered very hard to win with in street fighter 5 but if you look at his usage stats he is almost always middle of the pack. There have been times where there are more Alex players than Juri and Chunli players. Imagine if he was actually good in the game.
@walterlucero5757
@walterlucero5757 2 жыл бұрын
This video actually got me to want to get familiar with Alex on SF3 and SFV! It also has me curious on how Luke will be accepted as the face of the franchise.
@royjones3rd
@royjones3rd 2 жыл бұрын
The slip up at 8:39 is killing me
@hugejackedman3447
@hugejackedman3447 2 жыл бұрын
Dont forget!! Before Lex Luger was the unspoken disaster by the name Tom Magee!
@oversipelio983
@oversipelio983 2 жыл бұрын
Cool stuff
@cazrethomas
@cazrethomas 2 жыл бұрын
Another story of a Japanese company trying to cater to westerners and not doing so well when what we want is for a Japanese company to be, well Japanese. But even outside of that, being on the same roster as Ryu made this uphill battle even steeper
@0hadd
@0hadd Жыл бұрын
Watching this today gives me hope that Alex might be present on sf6. Even as dlc, it would be rlly cool getting the answer to the winner of his bout with Ryu
@Bilious303
@Bilious303 Жыл бұрын
Third Strike Alex is really fun to play despite being bottom tier. Other bottom tier characters are not only bad, but also just unfun to play. Alex always had satisfying gameplay.
@AH-is5yg
@AH-is5yg 2 жыл бұрын
When I played Street Fighter 3 the first time, I didn't pay much attention to Alex.
@Victor-mc1sz
@Victor-mc1sz 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I wonder if they would have brought over a character from Slammasters instead of creating Alex, they could have passed on the torch successfully? For me, Ryu will always be the face of Street Fighter and Chun-Li as a close second. Can you do a video on Rolento?
@xafronicajones
@xafronicajones 2 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy playing him on sf3. Bit challenging but yeah, he can't be the new hero. He didnt click like k' perse of kof
@darrellwilliams1714
@darrellwilliams1714 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah trying to make a grappler the star doesn't really work lol
@j95lee
@j95lee 2 жыл бұрын
Capcom made the same mistake that plagues Hollywood - trying to create a new prototype to appeal "to this demographic", when their classic characters or formula had already been embraced by the fanbase. Ryu is the face of the franchise and America was not going let a new kid on the block dethrone him just because he's white and military. Alex is actually a well thought out character and the SF3 series is among the best in the fighting game genre. Fans didn't quite warm up to the new direction. Hollywood continues to churn out projects and character based mostly on racial and gender identity.
@jeremyburdge8573
@jeremyburdge8573 2 жыл бұрын
It would be cool to see a video that talks about how many wrestling characters that Capcom has made over the years
@PipeRetrogamer
@PipeRetrogamer 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody expected that actually TvC was to be Alex's game more than SFIII
@parrishharris3008
@parrishharris3008 2 жыл бұрын
Wow i never knew Alex was supposed to be a Hulk Hogan character which is great but the character was missing something so i can see why he didn't really have a certain appeal for most players.
@mich722
@mich722 2 жыл бұрын
Street Fighter III had mostly boring characters for me. Many of them just didn't seem to fit in with the series.
@Prince.Mykal.Vision
@Prince.Mykal.Vision 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@convoyprimex
@convoyprimex 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. They should have pattered him after The Undertaker, Sting, or even Rick Flair.
@bryanc7094
@bryanc7094 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Top Hat but Alex is still boring. Could we get a video on Guy ? Anti fire ball characters
@t0xcn253
@t0xcn253 2 жыл бұрын
In spite of not having my desire for a Dhalsim video sated, this makes me very excited for the welcome arrival of the SF3 cast in a "new generation" of these videos. I at least hope that Oro will make an appearance so that my second favorite saffron-rags-wearing character gets some love!
@basileosalexios9200
@basileosalexios9200 2 жыл бұрын
Alex is literally Male Cammy. If you know the story behind Cammy them you'll understand what I meant.
@Asthenyer
@Asthenyer 2 жыл бұрын
8:38 Top Hat Gaming Man: *"Ryu would canonically encounter and have a match with Ryu!"* Me: *...Wait what?* 😂
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