modern day odysseus

fuck i should’ve never taken ap literature

I miss Marvel being good so much

​@@XieronDraxin Some of their content is still good but none of it (minus No Way Home) has been great or made me feel the undying enthusiasm that I felt in Phases 1-3.

@@themadtitan7603that’s nostalgia talking

Thanks! And that's really relieving that the final paragraph worked because it was literally a last minute addition after all the editing was done! :)

Totally agree.

@Repo man 100% agreed.

Made me cry, good quote.

Marvel is about humans trying to do the right thing, and DC is gods trying to be humans.

The whole scene, hey? RDJ is at his best there. The way his voice shakes with anger. So good.

He was still looking out for us till the end 😥

@@youtubinit thanks man. You have no idea how much those words mean to me...

But are they ever really gone in your heart or head when characters reach you like this?

Yeah it's an interesting thread that creates a continuity through everything!

So what your saying is that it's the story of Harry Osborn and Peter Parker, his father's idol xD

Ryan Napohaku this is the best I have ever seen both universes described

This is perfect.

Another way I have seen it put is that Clark Kent, Bruce Wayne, and Diana are the fake identities they use to interact with normal humans. I think the various television shows that focus on Clark Kent have changed this a little bit but the movie still seemed to ignore that.

That was a particularly cool read of those story elements

I'd personally argue that Strange has a slight headstart on Tony but it's hard not to see the resemblance.

Wait, old in age? Or older movies?

@@rananawito3526 older versions of the characters, so their earlier films

strange is avengers 1 tony, not iron man 1 tony, ancient one made strange less selfish

Brendan Scott True, but Dr. Strange is mental older then Tony. He lived for 10-100s of years with the time loop with dormano and has seen much more cosmic threats. So it’s much easier for strange to give the time stone, because he’s already been through huge threat and he’s fine on doing whatever it take to save humanity. Even if he doesn’t like the way it’s accomplished.

I REALLY, REALLY hope they bring Vision back. He was so awesome! Him and Wanda were such a sweet, loving couple. Its so sad the way he was taken from her.

A mirror but backwards is called a chiasm, or chiasmus. It is a Hebrew way of story telling found all through the Bible.

Thor's storyline in Endgame also mirrors his arc in Thor 1. His drive to kill Thanos in Infinity War lead to failure and he considers himself not worthy of the title and spends the rest of Endgame trying to find that worthiness again. After ten years of character development and Odin being dead, it's Thor himself who considers himself unworthy. Even though he can technically lift Stormbreaker, he basically refuses to until the Mjolnir from the past convinces him he's still worthy. Nat and Clint's stories are also reversed. We're told that Nat was a fugitive assassin who was saved by Clint and recruited into SHIELD. In Endgame, Clint is a fugitive on a killing spree and is saved by Nat, bringing back to the Avengers. Their talk on Vormir before Nat jumps off the cliff is basically Clint doing Nat's "red in the ledger" speech.

@@PoliteWerewolf so true.

@@ryanaegis3544 Oh, love it! Perfectly in line with the concept of Qlippoth to Sephiroth on the Kabbalistic Tree of Life. Thanks for the term!

@@PoliteWerewolf Good eye! And so good to know that I'm not the only one thinking the story dynamics over.

It's because they don't look or don't like how the story is told. You'll notice that those arguments generally are MIA while an MCU film is in theaters.

Yeah I think it's because substance comes from looking at something maturely but if the genre of superheroes doesn't have an appeal to an audience member than its difficult to have the desire to engage with it in such a way, that's my theory anyways :)

Crazy. The same people that will argue, all day long, that if you didn't like Batman v Superman it was just TOO SMART for you are the exact same ones that will repeat, over and over, that "Marvel movies are for babies! Stupid Disney trash!". I just laugh at them lol.

Because most of them are formulaic and are full of cheesy comic that doesn't fit the magnitude or deadliest of the situation

People don’t like the mcu cause all the comic fan boys wish they were copy pastes of the comics

Wow congratulations! I suppose that's what makes these characters so provocative, they carry stories that are deeply relevant to human experiences :)

Congrats! Now just gotta work on his humility. Lol

yeah, same. cub scout, boy scout, soldier, agent, husband, dad...just don't forget to keep your identity in view.

@@boshamburger123 being able to accurately gauge your life involves knowing your weaknesses AND strengths. For example, putting another man down for acknowledging himself may be considered the former.

@@ghuff31 lol easy brother just poking fun. No need to get all defensive.

As right as you are, God that's corny as all hell

Agreed. Yes please.

@@maxalaintwo3578 Extremely corny. That's why I'm not someone who writes for a living.

@@macknight2352 fair point. I'll fully give to you that you message is correct tho.

Max the Person Just because you stated your thesis clearly and efficiently doesn’t mean it sounds stupid. It means you did a good job.

Cap is worthy. gets me every time.

Same here bro, mad respect to you

Wow thank you so much! :)

One could argue that the Harry Potter series helped pave the way for the MCU in terms of introducing the public to the concept.

Yeah I don't know how other essayists do it when they make hour+ long videos because editing this 28 minute one was so tough because it takes so much time to re watch it and concentrating on how each section flows to the next! But I'm so relieved you enjoyed it, thanks!

Thanks! And yeah I was surprised by how sharply comparable and yet innately opposing their journeys are :)

Thanks! Started to do those cut aways mainly because KZfaq has made it so a clip can't last longer than like 4 or 6 seconds without edits, so I'm so happy to hear that it's had a positive effect! :)

Thanks! I'm not sure how it flows because I'm sure I repeat myself it's watched in unison, but that's really flattering! :)

The hell of it is Marty should know better. He's a genuine student of film history, having been a film professor in NYC who used westerns to teach his classes (not an easy sell for the hippie crowd those classes tended to draw, given that a lot of them had John Wayne). Then he got his start under B-movie king Roger Corman (whose pop sensibilities inform a LOT of the MCU) and even put the Hammer Horror film Frankenstein Created Woman on a favorite films list. I can see the deep roots of all this running back into cinema history...and he can't.

Thanks! I'm not sure how the three videos flow in unison, but I hope it's alright! :)

Aww nice to meet you too! And I'm so glad you enjoyed them, I'm still mentally used to only getting like 14 views so this is really mind blowing! :)

@@ImplicitlyPretentious enjoy it

Thanks! And thanks for sharing your story, I think this is one of the benefits for how long this journey has been, our real life experiences moves with the development in a way that creates an extra level of meaning!

@@ImplicitlyPretentious What other characters have had the depth of development throughout several films spanning a decade? Most sequels tend to sort of "reset" characters or only ever so slightly nudge them towards lasting change. Plus, the following stories will continue to feel the absence of our heroes. Just imagine if Star Trek had the guts to keep Spock dead after Wrath of Kahn? We're lucky to live in this new age of interconnected cinema that Marvel Studios has brought!

Thanks! I hope you don't mind me re using some of the quotes about storytelling stages! :)

@@ImplicitlyPretentious Don't worry about that. It makes it all the more helpful.

Aww thank you so much for watching them! I always get a bit anxious when uploading these so it means a lot to hear that it's created a positive impact! :)

Thanks! And I'm flattered that I could help in some way! :)

Thanks! I hope this one was up to snuff quality wise!

Thanks! I hope all three parts flow well! :)

@@ImplicitlyPretentious Pretty well, dude. Didn't there'd be such a cool dichotomy between these two superheroes in the series, but damn, is your trilogy enlightening.

Yeah I was literally going to get it out last Sunday, but it got copyright claimed and then I realised that maybe I should take the opportunity to do some tweaking which then led to me adding in an additional 5 paragraphs to it, so it ended up being a longer process then expected!

Wow thanks! I wasn't sure if it was up to the quality of the other ones so that's really relieving! :)

Thanks! I hope I didn't repeat myself too much if they're watched in unison! :)

Thank you! I'm so flattered that you keep watching! :)

Thank you! I really hoped the final edit at the end worked and wasn't too corny, so that's really relieving to hear :)

Thank you so much!

Thank you so much!

Yeah the alternative would've been having them look at each other just before time travelling to New Jersey, but the waist up shot seemed to match better

good choice very poetic also outstanding video and excellent conclusion to this narrative exploration but i guess you knew that already huh

Thank you!

Thanks for anticipation! :)

Thanks!

Thank you!

Thanks! I assume most people just click off when they hear my voice 😂

hi, first of all please allow me to say that i don't mean to be rude towards you or anything! i'm just going to say that i disagree with you because steve is my favourite character and your comment hurt me, but please don't take this as a personal attack i disagree, because steve has never been about himself (well, endgame's ending put aside). he wanted to fight the war because it was a responsibility that had been set upon all the other men his age, and as steve is particularly righteous, of course he'd want to help as well! it must feel extremely frustrating for him not to be able to do as any of the other men, but not because he wants not to feel inferior to them, but because he may feel like he's somehow cheating them because *they* didn't get the chance to stay home, so why could he get that privilege? that, and it would allow him to fight for what he believes is right, which is only more reinforced by the context of the war secondly, steve and tony's in civil war reflected their journeys. tony (who i also love!) is responsible for the death of many people because of his weapons and because of ulton (and guess what? the avengers were there to try and fix things). and remember when the government tried to nuke new york? exactly why trusting the government isn't always the solution. as for steve, the only reason he became captain america is because he wanted to do good, but the military system almost denied him that by turning him into a dancing monkey - it's thus understandable that steve wouldn't want to be under that kind of hierarchy, because he's right about the fact that agendas change. what if the government doesn't send the avengers to a particular country just because they're not on good terms with it? the avengers would just become another weapon, and any enhanced human who wouldn't want to serve as such would have to face dire consequences (remember that super fun prison from CW?). also, steve literally almost signed the accords *for* tony, so please, don't say he doesn't compromise. the only thing that put him off was the fact that wanda was put under house arrest. and true, people have died because of the avengers, but how many more were saved? you can't save everyone, but as heroes, they've got a responsibility to help people - and if they're owned by the government, they can't do that. in infinity war, the accords were even shown to be bullsh*t (when rhodey talks to ross). in CW, tony was motivated by guilt (and that's also totally valid), while steve didn't want for them to because the government's toys and wanted to regain the people's trust without the government, because politics can't decide who gets to be saved or not - they need to save everyone they can regardless of political agendas. so steve is not for himself, steve is for the values he stands for. plus HYDRA had been amidst SHIELD the entire time, of course he wouldn't trust an institution that resembles what he got through in the winter soldier movie! plus steve has always tried to help people. he comfort nat and wanda when they needed to, he listened to tony although he disagreed with him and wrote him a letter saying he'll be there - for steve, it was always about doing what is right, regardless of any attachment to the government or the flag. steve is not a weapon or a toy to be played with, he's a man who wants to do good, and if politics get mixed up in this, then things will go south (politicians don't always have the people's best interests at heart...) and even in the 2020 avengers game, tony punches bruce in the face because said that the avengers were dangerous in a trial, which caused them to disband. while in avengers assemble, steve had a stance similar to tony's in civil war. so in other universes, the points of view are interchangeable and both characters had good points. so yes basically i just wanted to defend this character who means the world to me, and i hope you understand where i'm coming from. again this is not a personal attack to you, far from it! i just wanted to tell you about my point of view, if it could help you understand steve's motivations a bit better if you're willing to open up. anyways, do what you want with this reply ahah

Accept tony was constantly trying to compromise with the accords and steve wouldn't change.

14:55, Jesus, so good, too many good!, eloquent points to praise...