The End Of Draft And Set Booster Packs | Magic: The Gathering To Introduce Play Boosters

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7 ай бұрын

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@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 7 ай бұрын
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@TheMeditatingRaven
@TheMeditatingRaven 7 ай бұрын
Somehow, I think this change is going to make constructed format like Pioneer, Pauper, and the various EDH formats more attractive since Limited packs are getting more expensive for cards that may not retain playability outside of Limited. I think WOTC does not grasp that Magic is at its most fun when it is financially accessible, and stuff like this seems to enhance the financial gatekeeping that is plaguing much of MTG right now.
@lawrenceblade4437
@lawrenceblade4437 7 ай бұрын
Btw! Happy Anniversary for the 10 years that you have been with us Professor!
@blindcommander
@blindcommander 7 ай бұрын
Not sure if like this this for Set Boosters. Won't forcing draft quality weaken set boosters? I didn't even know ppl still did draft?
@jimmycastillonjr.8169
@jimmycastillonjr.8169 7 ай бұрын
I feel it would be great for draft but for sealed it wouldn’t be so great because the fact that someone can get that 4 rare pack and dominate the playing field in that event that’s my only concern
@brianm2242
@brianm2242 7 ай бұрын
My only interaction with organized play was through limited...and I haven't played in a limited format in close to two years. This will bring me back if I can find a decent LGS.
@nosrin1988
@nosrin1988 7 ай бұрын
They need to get rid of the ad card. They put ads on the back of tokens, there's ZERO reason to have double sided ad cards wasting cardboard.
@SpawnofJack
@SpawnofJack 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely this.
@RealSonScotty
@RealSonScotty 7 ай бұрын
Facts!!!
@5000KAITOSHION
@5000KAITOSHION 7 ай бұрын
Yes. It annoys me so much when I don’t get tokens and only ads
@greyderpanite3344
@greyderpanite3344 7 ай бұрын
Beat idea yet
@Kingofnoodles
@Kingofnoodles 7 ай бұрын
Especially considering it's an ad for the product you've already bought! I get why they're doing it, but it's just silly.
@princephantom1294
@princephantom1294 7 ай бұрын
“Took 3 years, but the effect finally resolved.” Sounds like a commander game of 8 people all playing mono blue
@sentientwaffle535
@sentientwaffle535 5 ай бұрын
Or Izzet
@scampb
@scampb 7 ай бұрын
From a previous store owner: These new packs are going to be a huge problem for Limited events at stores. 1) Cost is too high; drafts/sealed were aready creeping up in price to where many could not afford it. Now it will be totally out of reach for some and cause others to not play Limited as often. 2) Too many rares; in sealed events in particular you are going have some people open a pool of rares that will increase their odds of winning by quite a bit. Does that make for a fun experience for all the opponents they will face 3) Too many rares again, in draft what will happen when someone opens a booster with so much value they don't want to pass and draft the pack. In the store I used to own we had a rule where if you opened two cards with real dollar value $15 or higher you could purchase a new pack to replace that one so you were not passing too much value. This was only incorporated because some people would just leave the draft table and the entire draft experience was ruined if we did not. This happened with such infrequency that it was not really an issue. But now, you are going to see this more often. If I am drafting do I really want to pass value that is going to help me pay for the cost of the draft? Probably not. But am I also going to want to pay the increased price of replacing that one pack, if your LGS allows for such a thing. I really think what Wizards should have done was to have a normal draft set and then collector boosters for those that want the chance of fancy cards. But THAT would not have been good for Wizards profits so yes, Limited formats will still suffer, in my opinion.
@chartypeplays2396
@chartypeplays2396 4 ай бұрын
The only point I think isn't going to be a problem for most people is point 3. That sounds like an odd system where people can just not pass the pack. In the draft events I've played in, you play a flat fee for the draft, you have to pass the packs after you pick from them, and you get to keep what you draft plus what you win. If letting people play to keep the packs works for you then okay, but I've never heard of anyone else doing it that way. I agree with everything else you said though.
@chrispitts1693
@chrispitts1693 7 ай бұрын
My biggest issue is that the introduction of set boosters seemed to make the phasing out of traditional draft boosters inevitable. It's hard to not feel like this is simply how they chose to raise the cost of draft boosters with the smallest amount of pushback. They tested the market with a more expensive booster with the intent to shift everything to that model if/when it sold.
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 7 ай бұрын
While I'm all for assuming the scummiest behavior from a corporation, I'm skeptical anyone at WotC thought that far ahead about Set Boosters. More likely, they just wanted a new, pricier product to sell, and had it include more perks to make it desirable. The result of making Draft Boosters so _undesirable_ was an unintended consequence. A problem WotC proceeded to ignore for years, until they realized how badly Draft Boosters were selling. I suspect the execs floated the idea of removing Draft Boosters and going on their way, until someone explained to them that Drafting is an important part of the business model. So Play Boosters were created to consolidate the two products (and thus customers) into one. That they could use this as an opportunity to quietly upcharge the cost for Drafting is definitely what tipped the scale on that decision, of course. tldr: The suits at WotC are greedy scum, but they're also incompetent and short-sighted. So it probably wasn't a scheme years in the making. It was them selling you the solution to a problem they created by mistake.
@Sutefusama
@Sutefusama 7 ай бұрын
@@Bluecho4 sorry didn't read all of this just because if you read Mark Rosewater's post it's definitely written black on white that in the studio they actually EXPECTED draft boosters to disappear the moment set boosters were created. It was only a question of time, they knew that would happen.
@gaebril131
@gaebril131 7 ай бұрын
​@Sutefusama which post would that be
@tj2themax
@tj2themax 7 ай бұрын
@@Bluecho4This right here. I can 100% agree that this is exactly what lead to this but it all honesty, I would've been more fine with Set Boosters disappearing than Draft. I dont expect there to be any more value to be had in these Play Boosters than the regular draft boosters we had prior to all of this.
@Sutefusama
@Sutefusama 7 ай бұрын
@@gaebril131 problem #3 on Mark Rosewater post about play boosters. I may have extrapolated a bit on this one but here how it was written : "We do a lot of future forecasting in Studio X, and our people were saying that given enough time, they believed Draft Boosters would stop being a thing"
@ruttokyrpa3472
@ruttokyrpa3472 7 ай бұрын
Really cool that drafting becomes more expensive to save drafting
@amason8479
@amason8479 7 ай бұрын
team wotc world drafters
@lightworker2956
@lightworker2956 7 ай бұрын
Beatings will continue until morale improves.
@sunstrid3r44
@sunstrid3r44 7 ай бұрын
To save drafting from... wotc itself!
@frankcaggiano8282
@frankcaggiano8282 7 ай бұрын
And yet y'all will keep paying
@Damage146
@Damage146 7 ай бұрын
​@@frankcaggiano8282nope, i play with the cards i have and havent bought any magic product for like 2 years now. i dont like where this is going and its just to many products stuffed in a year. i find it so frustrating that as soon as one set dropps, the next set is allready been presented. everything feels so damn rushed. play commander, buy singels or trade stuff you need with stuff you have.
@ukaszkiljan6316
@ukaszkiljan6316 7 ай бұрын
My only problem is the price increase for the drafts and prerelease
@accountid9681
@accountid9681 7 ай бұрын
I would be upset at this, but if I recall correctly, people who only draft generally sell their pulls to cover costs, so the increased rare rate will make breaking even just as likely
@RBGolbat
@RBGolbat 7 ай бұрын
Unless the price of rares goes down because more are opened. There’s no way to tell what will actually happen and the outcomes because of this change until it actually starts happening.
@ThisNameIsBanned
@ThisNameIsBanned 7 ай бұрын
Which is also a major scam. Its 15 cards, just the same as a draft pack, it SHOULD cost the same as a draft pack, as its the exact same product. The fact its more rares (its more like 1.4 rares) SHOULD not matter for the product cost, as the fact these will always have more rares will just decrease the value of every rare, as you get more naturally. 20$ drafts are already too expensive, its a SCAM and that should be what people call it, as this is a problem that WotC introduced, they try to sell a fix for the problem they made themselves and hide the simple fact that they make it all more expensive.
@mikephillips1043
@mikephillips1043 7 ай бұрын
​@@ThisNameIsBanned$20 a draft is not too much are you high? Thats less than $7 a pack. That's a fucking steal.
@krisdaschwab912
@krisdaschwab912 7 ай бұрын
​@@mikephillips1043That comes out to $6.66 per pack. Hail Satan!
@Psychosaur
@Psychosaur 7 ай бұрын
I think a real problem hinted to in this video are players driven away by the higher costs. Draft was one of the cheaper entry points to playing magic. With price increases that could drive away people from playing the game. Sure a portion of the market has shown that people are willing to spend more for a fancier product, but what about the sales lost from people who have been priced out. I was excited to buy the Sliver precon this summer untill I saw the price. It feels like this is happening more and more.
@heyitsdross
@heyitsdross 7 ай бұрын
Same, I was loving the idea of buying the Eldrazi precon until I saw the decklist and the 106€ price tag at my LGS, and was just like lol nvm then. Even the latest set of precons costing 60€ is too much for me, I'd rather start making pauper Commander decks for basically the same price and have the fun of putting the thing together myself.
@lexyeevee
@lexyeevee 7 ай бұрын
i got briefly back into the game right around the hasbro acquisition, via draft, and i already felt ridiculous paying so much for a booster box. regular playing cards are, what, 3¢ per card? magic already wants me to pay ten times that, for the mere privilege of /gambling/. and now they want to jack it up more? come on. there are other ways to spend my free time.
@bryanbaggett5421
@bryanbaggett5421 7 ай бұрын
Drafting at my LGS a few years ago was $12, then it crept up to $15, then with the price increase in Dominaria United it went up to $17. With this change, i'm guessing it will be around $20. That is a significant amount if you are normally drafting 4 times a month. Might not seem like a ton, but when you combine it with all of the inflation elsewhere in this economy, it causes problems.
@petulantpeterturbo
@petulantpeterturbo 7 ай бұрын
I don't really see this as a problem at all, according to the statistics the majority was vast enough for draft booster boxes to be axed entirely, that would not have happened if people were actually using that as their entry point.
@pedrino321
@pedrino321 7 ай бұрын
My problem isn’t the cost, it’s the value. I get way more value from set boosters than from draft. Hell i still don’t know why set boosters aren’t allowed for drafts.
@utkphilobio
@utkphilobio 7 ай бұрын
WOTC: incentivizes players to largely ignore draft packs by making their EV bad and dropping support for organized play and is then Pikachu-shocked when people stop buying draft packs. Who could have seen this coming?
@cherch222
@cherch222 7 ай бұрын
This was the plan all along. They wanted to charge more for limited but didn’t want to kill player good will by just flat out increasing price. They needed a “reason” which they manufactured.
@billdoetsch
@billdoetsch 7 ай бұрын
I don't know that the EV was all that different, actually. The perceived EV, maybe, and players liked the gamble chance.
@slx
@slx 7 ай бұрын
@@billdoetsch EV at this point doesn't mean value from the current set, it means value from reprinted cards based of the secondary market.
@JivanPal
@JivanPal 7 ай бұрын
> dropping support for organized play Eh? I am under no impression that WOTC is/was intentionally stifling draft events. It's one of their main sources of sustainable revenue.
@cherch222
@cherch222 7 ай бұрын
@@JivanPal if that were true, then draft boosters would be outselling set boosters.
@SurlyDuff814
@SurlyDuff814 7 ай бұрын
I'm not going to stubbornly proclaim that this is a wholly negative change (it's not) but how convenient for WotC that the solution is going to be more expensive for players. Neat huh?
@ipsyop
@ipsyop 7 ай бұрын
They'd be stupid not to do what they are doing, especially if the trend was that people were already buying the more expensive product.
@Zomburai45
@Zomburai45 7 ай бұрын
It's just amazing how every "smart" and "necessary" decision keeps fucking over the consumer, huh?@@ipsyop
@2013Arcturus
@2013Arcturus 7 ай бұрын
I'll do ya the favor and say it's 100% negative. I already don't but cards much anymore cause everything in the world is too expensive, this just grantee I'll save my money and by investment/EDH cards off eBay.
@erlockruuziik7237
@erlockruuziik7237 7 ай бұрын
This is positive in the same way that it's positive to be the nicest guy in prison
@shaeferweleschuk1324
@shaeferweleschuk1324 7 ай бұрын
I’m not going to fully decide until I get the chance to play limited with play boosters. Prereleases tend to feel fun, but then when you actually break down the kinds of cards you got from the event it was usually a bit underwhelming.
@thebattleofpelennorfieldsp6081
@thebattleofpelennorfieldsp6081 7 ай бұрын
Funny how game pieces can go from 15 to 14 and get more expensive at the same time.
@RaunienTheFirst
@RaunienTheFirst 7 ай бұрын
What concerns me the most (apart from the price increase) is the effect that the change in the proportions of rarities will have on Sealed. It's less if a problem in draft, as everyone sees most of every pack and you still only get to pick one card at a time, but in sealed, this will hugely increase the variability. If your 6 packs all have one rare or maybe one pack has 2, and someone else got a 4 rare pack, they're in a much stronger position right off the bat.
@billdoetsch
@billdoetsch 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, this increases the variance in competitive sealed events a decent bit. Unfortunately that also benefits WOTCs bottom line. 'Maybe if you open one more Arena Open pool you'll get there with a good one!' - the more it becomes like a lottery, the better for WOTC.
@bondeulv
@bondeulv 7 ай бұрын
This was already the case with MOM. (Legends slot, Battle, slot Rare/Mythic slot, possible Foil)
@billdoetsch
@billdoetsch 7 ай бұрын
@@bondeulvYou mean MOM, the bomby, swingy format?
@mrcatchingup
@mrcatchingup 7 ай бұрын
The reality is that a lot of "rares" are actually uncommons in every box. WotC tries to trick buyers info thinking they are getting bonus rares when in reality they try to mislead the buyers with a false gold expansion symbols. So people won't really be opening bomb threat level rares any more often.
@bondeulv
@bondeulv 7 ай бұрын
@@billdoetsch not as bad as Crimson Vow
@notme222
@notme222 7 ай бұрын
Simplifying the product line makes total sense. What we should dread is when they realize how much Arena has cannibalized paper drafting.
@dokanzan5623
@dokanzan5623 7 ай бұрын
I'm from Brazil, and here we are feeling completely overwhelmed by this change. Magic, in general, is going to become SO EXPENSIVE. You guys have no idea.
@Snst-404
@Snst-404 7 ай бұрын
Currently I can barely afford Magic drafts and with this new change I might be no longer able to draft, while set boosters were more of a treat (a one off, if you had the money to spare) having it as the base for drafts where one buys multiple packs at a time, really compounds the higher pricetag
@dokanzan5623
@dokanzan5623 7 ай бұрын
@@Snst-404 dark times are coming, sad to see the game that i love going for this path, and there's nothing we can do about it
@fedemotta3
@fedemotta3 7 ай бұрын
Oh we at south america are fucked. No way I'm drafting at set booster prices.
@Horderek
@Horderek 7 ай бұрын
I like to do this analysis for brasil: A Wilds of Eldraine draft booster is 33brl, Minimum wage is 1035brl/month. That makes the draft boost cost 3.2% of wage. At TCG Player website, wilds of Eldraine draft booster is 3.4 usd. Minimum wage in new York is 14.20/hour, that gives 2640/month. That makes the draft booster cost 0.14% of wage. Brasil is about 23x more expensive than abroad
@sunstrid3r44
@sunstrid3r44 7 ай бұрын
​@@Horderekthis is the set booster price, woe draft boosters are around 25brl, but your point stands. Limited is expensive as hell here
@gabrielamaro1470
@gabrielamaro1470 7 ай бұрын
This change plugs one hole, but the ship is still sinking under the weight of price increases and nonstop neverending set releases. I’m content to sit on the sideline and see how things shake out.
@mofomiko
@mofomiko 7 ай бұрын
Let's just stay ashore and see cheap singles getting washed on the beach
@bdenneysr85
@bdenneysr85 7 ай бұрын
Inflation is always and has always been a thing. To think that the price of magic the gathering wouldn’t increase along with the price of literally EVERYTHING ELSE is absurd. It is equally if not MORE absurd to say that “never ending” set releases are a thing that’s sinking the ship because the only reason MTG is still around and relevant is because WOTC keeps making more sets.
@sharktrap267
@sharktrap267 7 ай бұрын
@@bdenneysr85inflation brought boxes from 90 to 115 in physical stores where I am. Almost 30% inflation within 2 years and a half. Salaries didn't really follow. But I do understand overpriced cardboard cannot stay overpriced if you don't gimp up your prices.
@joeferreti9442
@joeferreti9442 7 ай бұрын
@@bdenneysr85 That's actually nonsense. Inflation never increases all prices, only some categories. And there are also forces like better and optimized production that decrease prices. So, saying prices always have to go up is just a lie. And here we are talking about printed cardboard that costs single digit cents in mass production.
@123pa1n
@123pa1n 7 ай бұрын
@@bdenneysr85 well how convenient it is that at the same time, whenever they release a product that has more value on the secondary market which ofc doesnt exist, the prices go op drasticly despite the fact that its the same fcking cardboard and no foil cards have been printed with diamond dust and gold flavour text. Dont be a lemming ffs
@pedrosergiot
@pedrosergiot 7 ай бұрын
I like the idea of having just one booster pack. I think we were happier when there was only the booster pack instead of set boosters, draft boosters, collector's booster and whatever Hasbri creates to try to take the money from our wallets.
@Meep9092
@Meep9092 7 ай бұрын
I agree with you Prof, I definitely am glad that we are going back to one type of non-premium pack. Most of my LGS said that the split gave them a huge headache and inventory nightmare. I'm hoping this helps.
@TheAvianoid
@TheAvianoid 7 ай бұрын
This is going to make me attend less pre-release events. They are going to be even more expensive, and they were already absurdly expensive
@NeoChromer
@NeoChromer 7 ай бұрын
Literally same as a commander deck
@mofomiko
@mofomiko 7 ай бұрын
Can't wait to pay a premium the next prerelease with my buddies and opening 15 bucks worth of cards, what a fun and enjoyable experience Wizards Boosters are
@ccggenius
@ccggenius 7 ай бұрын
I already stopped. I can buy all the singles I want from most sets for less than a single pre-release.
@Kapao
@Kapao 7 ай бұрын
$30 to $36 for a prerelease is cheaper than a night out drinking
@freethemonkey6768
@freethemonkey6768 7 ай бұрын
​@@Kapaodepends where you live
@jessewinter5826
@jessewinter5826 7 ай бұрын
I've been waiting for this video since it was announced. I appreciate the Professor for being informative and giving his insight when WoTC messes with our game without exaggeration or hyperbole.
@darangen
@darangen 7 ай бұрын
I think, from hearing from many local game stores, that the "increased demand for Set Boosters" is often a result of Hasbro just not making draft boosters as available at the distribution level. I know many who wanted to order more Draft, but all that was available was Set Boosters, so their "data" is skewed because this was their plan all along to raise the price of the default booster.
@EngineerLume
@EngineerLume 7 ай бұрын
Mark goes over this in the article, people preferred Set boosters over Draft Boosters on the whole, so they weren't buying Draft Boosters, so stores weren't ordering Draft Boosters, so Wizards made less Draft boosters, and this cycle kept going and going until the cost of making Draft boosters was becoming unsustainable
@folkenphoenix
@folkenphoenix 7 ай бұрын
Affirmative, they lie to the people in the face
@darangen
@darangen 7 ай бұрын
@@EngineerLume Yeah, that's what Mark said. I'm just going off what actual LGS's are saying as to why they ordered more Set Boosters. If they make 100 Set boxes available and only 5 Draft boxes, of course they're going to sell more Set boxes.
@EngineerLume
@EngineerLume 7 ай бұрын
@@darangen And they made 5 because players weren't buying them
@darangen
@darangen 7 ай бұрын
@@EngineerLume But stores were trying to. How can players buy them if they weren't readily available? That's my point. Stores can't sell something they don't have, so they have to sell what they do have. When my friend who owns an LGS says he can't get them because the distributors don't have them, that's not a "players aren't buying them" issue, that's a "players CANT buy them" issue.
@syn2pse638
@syn2pse638 7 ай бұрын
To me going to something like a draft night or prerelease for a new set is an excuse to spend a bit of money at my LGS, an increase of price in those sorts of events just means that I end up being more picky with what I buy afterwards. It's not entirely possible to say for certain at this point, but I believe this will lead me to spending less at my LGS due to an increase in event prices, even if its just $10. When LTR prerelease happened I ended up getting a lot less than I normally would due to its above average event price as it was harder to justify spending a lot on sealed things, especially when LTR was already expensive as a set; I don't think that the Play Booster price increase will be that egregious, but I do think that it will have a similar effect, ESPECIALLY for when sets that are high power and have multiple chase cards are released in the future (MH3 prerelease will likely be something I have to skip out on depending on how bad the event prices get for it).
@unseeliedream42
@unseeliedream42 7 ай бұрын
I am happy for going back to just a "normie" booster - there was too much stuff around - but I am a bit saddened by the fact price is increasing while my wage is remaining the same since 2018 :( Draft became expensive in my lgs and now it will be even more and I will be completely left out of these events The List was also an interesting idea that I see now reduced to 40 cards - it helped in the past to lower the prices for some never-reprinted cards.
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero
@NeutralGuyDoubleZero 7 ай бұрын
Buy singles
@calvinbeall2068
@calvinbeall2068 7 ай бұрын
@@NeutralGuyDoubleZeroyou cant draft with singles - "buy singles" is advice for people who crack packs for specific cards
@unseeliedream42
@unseeliedream42 7 ай бұрын
i do already. one cannot play draft or sealed by buying singles as far as i know @@NeutralGuyDoubleZero
@ChiisaiRamen
@ChiisaiRamen 7 ай бұрын
@@calvinbeall2068 Buy singles (and proxies) to create a set cube. Not exactly the same as draft but it will give you a similar feeling. Im thinking of making an innistrad set cube myself
@stuart782496
@stuart782496 7 ай бұрын
Same pay since 2018? Bruh get a new job
@JustJon13
@JustJon13 7 ай бұрын
I really appreciate your nuanced perspective as always Prof! I think I got the most understanding about Play Boosters here than from any other of the many sources discussing this issue. Thanks!
@zramirez5471
@zramirez5471 5 ай бұрын
Nice one prof!! As someone that stopped playing MTG prior to the evolution of the draft booster, I really found your mulligan video incredibly helpful - now I just need to make it to Commander night to get going!
@LithmusEarth
@LithmusEarth 7 ай бұрын
Instead of doing a banned and restricted announcement they did a play booster announcement, so I have read the article, and one other article that leaned closer to a review first from one of the magic reporting sites. In my local commander group i posted that "In this article they admit they are flooding local game stores with too many kinds of products. But only narrowly defined it as set vs draft. They don't even consider the larger scope." - Monday and the article was from star city games. I also said from some article, "Play boosters will be more expensive than set boosters, and are 36 boosters per box (like draft boosters)." My opinion is that these are draft boosters that have had some set booster ideas grafted onto them. Not the other way around. it's much easier to see them as what did they do with some of the common slots in a draft booster makes way more sense in my brain. Sunday Night we were discussing the pioneer cube i built with the help of this channel a couple of years ago, and how it's a more bomb-heavy environment. Well guess what, we will now get that in draft. They made a point to say they were going to design more answers at lower rarities. I might need to take a cue from that and adjust cube cobra's list.
@ROMANTIKILLER2
@ROMANTIKILLER2 7 ай бұрын
Basically WotC changed something that had been working for decades (the draft boosters), and when the new products caused vrious issues in the ecosystem, they pretended to act in the best interest of the community by changing course, with that "accidentally" removing from the market the least expensive product and replacing it with something more expensive than both discontinued options.
@Tuss36
@Tuss36 7 ай бұрын
They didn't change draft boosters at all, they just made set boosters because cracking draft boosters just for cards kinda sucked. Turns out a lot of folk crack packs just to open them, thus set boosters are more popular. It'd be one heck of a long con to introduce an entire new product line, produce it for several years, then discontinue the old *and* new product in place of a new one, JUST to increase the price of a pack when they could literally do that at any time for any reason they want (also said price has been said to be the same as a set booster, so what you said at the end is just a plain lie)
@wolfman210
@wolfman210 7 ай бұрын
If it was working set boosters wouldn't have outsold draft boosters to the point the entire format was in danger of extinction. Play boosters are just WOTC trying to save a format because the players like it.
@nelpolian3863
@nelpolian3863 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the educating recap, Prof. Always a pleasure to see you in my new video feed.
@samcoleman4652
@samcoleman4652 7 ай бұрын
We hold a monthly draft night. So I'm very interested to see how this affects my play group. Especially since we typically buy draft boxes that have gone down in price.
@tectronixofficial
@tectronixofficial 7 ай бұрын
My play group was discussing this as well. We're all wondering if older "draft" booster boxes will go up in price due to it being a discontinued limited format experience, so to speak.
@chrisbeynon1292
@chrisbeynon1292 7 ай бұрын
What WoTC fail to understand is that there is only a finite amount of money to go around. We have run limited every week since Saga and have seen the price creep up over the years, from next year I expect to to be a £20 draft. On top of this our LGS will have it's 3 days of pre-release, currently £24ish and we normally play at least 2 of them. We are in a cost of living crisis here, so personally all this will do is end up reducing my ability to play limited, and lets be realistic unless you pull a bomb rare you are not making your money back off resale.
@fattybiscuit3495
@fattybiscuit3495 7 ай бұрын
I am interested to see how this affects prereleases. I remember at my lgs they charged $40 for the Lord of the Rings set and a lot of people being annoyed about it.
@quazyquacker13
@quazyquacker13 7 ай бұрын
Normally sealed was $36 but for LOTR it was $42. I won't be surprised if the price for sealed is raised to $50 in the near future.
@OmegaSD18
@OmegaSD18 7 ай бұрын
I was annoyed as well, but I eventually read that this was specific to LOTR because there was a 30% premium WOTC had to pay to Middle Earth Entertainment. When I did the WOE prerelease, it was back to $30 at my LGS (which was basically $25 for the Prerelease pack and prize support, with everyone getting at least 1 set booster for participating, more based on wins).
@MrOnlyXeno
@MrOnlyXeno 7 ай бұрын
@@quazyquacker13 i only have € prices but 35€ for drafting is a lot and LOR was with 40€ crazy. For a one time thing maybe makeable but i will never go on a Monthly prerelease for more than 40€. and will never pay 50€ for one event....
@heronvitor6886
@heronvitor6886 7 ай бұрын
i remember some emplyee of wizards said when asked about the sheer amount of products wotc was releasing: ''you need to engage in products you want to engage''. And that is the result.
@bryanlim9817
@bryanlim9817 7 ай бұрын
Gavin??
@heronvitor6886
@heronvitor6886 7 ай бұрын
@@bryanlim9817 nah. It was other dude. Blake, i think. A huge idiot for saying something like that. Troll and toad announced it was not going to buy mtg products anymore, and i think the amount of stuff they were releasing was a big factor for that decision
@FetteKuh93
@FetteKuh93 7 ай бұрын
Excellent animations! Thx for the effort 🙂
@markverdugo4501
@markverdugo4501 7 ай бұрын
Sweet! Sounds like a good fix. Thanks for another great video!
@kaneto9974
@kaneto9974 7 ай бұрын
I was pretty devastated about draft boosters getting the axe at first, but since then i have accepted that this change had to come. The only thing i cant understand are the 14 cards per pack. As if that 1 common more per pack would be so bad, i mean they literally put cardboard ads for arena in the same booster.
@CrosswaIk
@CrosswaIk 7 ай бұрын
Everything we said was going to happen with the announcement of set boosters has happened. I'm going to say now that play boosters are going to be a nightmare to try and play with in limited 😂
@chriscunningham6401
@chriscunningham6401 7 ай бұрын
I can't imagine that The List cards will be usable in the draft?
@charahnalaar
@charahnalaar 7 ай бұрын
​@@chriscunningham6401I believe all cards in Play Boosters are legal in Limited
@naquinn5745
@naquinn5745 7 ай бұрын
​@@chriscunningham6401Oh they are
@falconJB
@falconJB 7 ай бұрын
@@chriscunningham6401They have to be because they replace a playable card from the set.
@dawildbear
@dawildbear 7 ай бұрын
@@chriscunningham6401 ye if their not then between removing a card, replacing a card with a land, and the list you could be opening a 12 card pack which is a little tight for draft.
@angrywado
@angrywado 7 ай бұрын
As someone who has played more sealed in the last year than ever before, I am curious to see what the change will bring, but I really hope this is an overall improvement for LGSs in limiting their outlay and making it easier to stock products. Fewer products is definitely better, and a simple dichotomy between a play booster and the premium collector booster is miles better than this time last year. Worried the increase in cost, guessing about $5 per event, is going to price some folks out. Will be checking stores to see where they are landing when MaKM comes out.
@florianbeinhorn7784
@florianbeinhorn7784 7 ай бұрын
Hey Prof. I am just thanking you for your content! Greetings from Germany. And ofc I also really enjoy your Kickstarter playmat+that sweet treasure tokens. Greetings F.
@lukasmischlich1178
@lukasmischlich1178 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the level headed evaluation, prof. As someone who just keeps playing in person when buying a draft box with friends, I was really bummed out by the fha fact they change the whole foundation of drafting, pushing more rares and uncomment into the format,in which I already disliked the level of power creeping and getting pushed in. Sucks a little having to spend more on a format I enjoy less and less, but I atleast understands where it's coming from. Good old wizards again having to beat out the fire they caused with a stick.
@Reckl3ssGring0
@Reckl3ssGring0 7 ай бұрын
I would be interested to see how each set having less commons printed into Pauper affects the format, either by stagnating it due to a lesser card pool added every year or possibly breaking it wide-open if they push design space for commons because there aren’t as many
@falconJB
@falconJB 7 ай бұрын
Probably just means the better commons will be shifted up to uncommon.
@josephrion3514
@josephrion3514 7 ай бұрын
Increased number of answers for their bombs so the removal is going up. So maybe better choices.
@Fopenplop
@Fopenplop 7 ай бұрын
80 is still a lot, and in the article and subsequent video Q&A they talked about how before they would design dud commons to fill out the roster, so now we should expect a higher average quality of common design and less draft chaff.
@jaydub5515
@jaydub5515 7 ай бұрын
I really liked your Mulligan video. Good stuff
@BriggsMullen
@BriggsMullen 7 ай бұрын
The large majority of the sealed product I buy is pre-release kits. It's going to be a bummer that prices are going up, but I'm excited that I'll be seeing more of The List.
@mtgamateurnight
@mtgamateurnight 7 ай бұрын
I had a bet and predicted this about two years ago. I said that draft boosters would go away as it is stupid for a company to offer two products that are so similar but one is slightly more expensive but does not offer the function of the other. Clearly sales would eventually reflect this and set boosters would be modified for draft and retain the set booster price. The only reason I lost the bet was because we agreed the change would have to be announced by the end of September. I was two weeks off the mark.
@notsaved
@notsaved 7 ай бұрын
basic shrinkflation by creating more expensive product line then discontinuing cheaper one, good call
@dawildbear
@dawildbear 7 ай бұрын
I mean as I read the announcement it sounds like this has been in the works for 2 years
@notsaved
@notsaved 7 ай бұрын
@@dawildbear wonder how they predicted this 2 years ago without even knowing how well set boosters would sell! Foresight magic!
@dawildbear
@dawildbear 7 ай бұрын
@@notsaved set boosters have been out for like 3 years? and frankly it isn't too outlandish to go "Hey we have draft boosters and set boosters, maybe we just combine them into one product" regardless of how well set boosters specifically sell.
@notsaved
@notsaved 7 ай бұрын
@dawildbear oh its not outlandish at all, it's a tried and tested corporate strategy, restructure one product into two, then remove the cheaper option and rebundle them at higher price, shrinkflation 101
@jordanlewis523
@jordanlewis523 7 ай бұрын
Personally I'm thrilled things are being simplified. Coming back to magic this year after a decade plus of not playing was pretty confusing with all the new products. Your channel helped immensely in figuring things out btw.
@relevantusername3342
@relevantusername3342 7 ай бұрын
That's a sick tie!
@Ddot5ky
@Ddot5ky 7 ай бұрын
After a nearly 5 year hiatus I came back to MTG and was so confused about what each packs were about and very few people were able to explain any of it, now that this is being changed I feel more confident buying packs again.
@SG7Music
@SG7Music 7 ай бұрын
I really only play Commander, but I do try to build a new deck from a single set booster box. It will be interesting to see if this new pack makes things better or worse for that. While I may not play draft, I'm glad steps are being taken to save that experience for others.
@folkenphoenix
@folkenphoenix 7 ай бұрын
Draft booster is a very balanced set of cards, so the new booster will be better to you to build decks, rather than former set boosters.
@24Eagle11
@24Eagle11 7 ай бұрын
Idk about this. Seems to me there won't be as much rares in these new boosters as there was in set boosters. I could be wrong but that's just what I'm getting. Will need to look at the slots and rates article.@@folkenphoenix
@antoniodittman5820
@antoniodittman5820 7 ай бұрын
Had strong feelings about how the multiple rares and list cards will warp selection order and create a greater chance of spikier deck quality. Where you will be rewarded for lucking into multiple 1 color good rares and forcing a color pair. But with fewer commons, (a thing i had missed,) we will also see less punishment for this as it means the best commons will be more likely to crop up, so when forcing a color pair you are less likely to get hosed by not seeing 2-3 of the best common enablers for your deck, they will just be more common. Conversely the uncommons become more uncommon as the pool grows so if your deck relys on a few key uncommons to really maximize potential you are best served in letting that deck pass by. Also means any uncommons that are okay buy amazing together become a worse pick because you are less likely to find its mate.
@lukasmischlich1178
@lukasmischlich1178 7 ай бұрын
I agree, as someone who only ever plays in person when buying a draft box with some friends, I just liked the lower power level of drafting. I already didn't like the fact that you felt the power creep with rares beeing pushed more and more, but at least it was like one card per pack, so even if someone picked a bomb they had to build around and get lucky to actually draw it. This will somewhat change the whole feel of draft more toward the way Standart became with every card having a lot of impact, which I don't enjoy as much as slowly carving out small advantages and is the reason I stopped playing constructed and only kept drafting.
@breakfield1944
@breakfield1944 7 ай бұрын
It's no wonder that set boosters were more popular than draft because a lot of the time the prize support (at least at my lgs) was set booster packs. It just seemed like there was more reason for a shop to have set booster packs on hand than draft. I'm glad we're returning to one product, though the price increase sucks
@GandoTheBard
@GandoTheBard 7 ай бұрын
Killer tie prof!
@matthewramos5162
@matthewramos5162 7 ай бұрын
As more of a set booster buyer, I’ll miss my regular art cards, but I’m excited to be able to draft the packs and get the sorts of cards that I buy set boosters for!
@cuccooverlord9812
@cuccooverlord9812 7 ай бұрын
After Ixalan, I'll wait to see how this plays out, and check Bloomburrow if the feedback from players is positive.
@user-gp2rl8jl2f
@user-gp2rl8jl2f 7 ай бұрын
Good idea man, same here 👍
@orangegalen
@orangegalen 7 ай бұрын
Same. Checking out until Bloomburrow, since that’s the only set that looks interesting to me. Might buy a single or two, but largely I’m only playing the free EDH nights at my LGS (also largely because that’s one of my days off from work Lol)
@ShabbahCore
@ShabbahCore 7 ай бұрын
Bloomburrow is also my next stop, from Dinosaurs to Squirrels, I'm all good to go!
@bearmountaingaming771
@bearmountaingaming771 7 ай бұрын
This will make me start drafting every once in a while. I never drafted because I mostly play commander and wanted the value from set boosters but now it sounds like I could get both
@shaderxluna
@shaderxluna 7 ай бұрын
I just got into magic and TCG games a month or 2 ago, and It was really really hard to learn all the stuff by myself. I appreciate it's just the play boosters and collector boosters now
@jiffyb333
@jiffyb333 7 ай бұрын
I've personally switched to drafting FaB. I can't keep up with all the draftable MTG sets, FaB's slower release cadence is a lot less stressful. Plus now it's going to be more affordable!
@TheTacticalBat
@TheTacticalBat 7 ай бұрын
Drafting FaB is a ton of fun.
@kw759
@kw759 7 ай бұрын
I think its a good step to combine the two . Only bad thing is the higher price for drafting.
@derbaer0290
@derbaer0290 7 ай бұрын
the problem is not only the increased pricing for draft via more expansive boosters but also the fact that to get the uncommons you need, you will have to open up more booster in general since there will be a bigger pool to pull from while keeping the same number of slots in play boosters.(yes buy singles folks, but this will also increase prices since most likely there will be less suply for chase cards increasing also prices on singles.)
@RhodyBob
@RhodyBob 7 ай бұрын
I think it's the smart move. My LGS is getting more into drafting, so it should be nice! That and brand new players sometimes get duped into buying draft boosters expecting set booster rarities.
@dorlo7933
@dorlo7933 7 ай бұрын
While the idea of multiple rares to pick from in draft seems like it would change the format in an interesting new way, I think the price increase will push a lot of players out of regular drafting, myself included.
@scottspencer5242
@scottspencer5242 7 ай бұрын
Personally, I like this idea. It makes logistics easier for all parties involved. It also means that when I buy a box, I don't have to forego buying a box of set boosters just so my friends and I can draft with it. My only gripe is that they're still planning to include ad cards. They're pointless. If we're seeing the blasted things, we're already buying your product. If margins are so tight that you can't afford to throw in an extra common, just save the bloody cardboard and cut the packs to 14 cards.
@RaccoonKid1997
@RaccoonKid1997 7 ай бұрын
Glad I had some jumpstart packs. Me and my partner needed up putting a commander deck together with it and any cards we had. Right now it's more for fun and it's a graveyard deck.
@My_Hero_Zero
@My_Hero_Zero 7 ай бұрын
I am a draft only player and its funny because my LGS gives out set boosters as prizes for draft events, which further discourages drafting. We always specifically ask for draft boosters for prizes to draft more. I think a lot of the sales data they are citing is because they intentionally shifted the emphasis to the more expensive product. Set boosters were pitched as the new standard and they wanted it to eclipse draft boosters. To me it seems like a 5 year convoluted way to just do a price hike.
@seanmaertens8483
@seanmaertens8483 7 ай бұрын
My main reason to go to my LGS was for the prerelease. Given the price increase coming I am much more likely to just play in Arena instead and save my money for singles. This game is already very expensive to play and with a functional free alternative I would guess more people will make a similar switch to Arena over their LGS in the future.
@ESC2016
@ESC2016 7 ай бұрын
It is "funny" how every single decision since some years now looks like it is mainly about players giving more money.
@RrraverCrow
@RrraverCrow 7 ай бұрын
$1000 for 4 packs of unplayable reprints, secret lairs, switching from intro packs to commander decks for every set, having 6+ different products for each set release, straight up telling their playerbase that some products are just “not for them”, and Mark Rosewater still has not been fired. Wotc is just cashing out before they crash this ship into an iceberg.
@milqueto4st231
@milqueto4st231 7 ай бұрын
Hi, welcome to capitalism. Can I take your order?
@johnhague3372
@johnhague3372 7 ай бұрын
Not really the route cause is Commander which was a player shift. Since Commander took over and put draft and standard on life support they needed to find a way to get more money. The money is now from blinging your next eternal 100 card commander deck, not repeated drafts or standard deck refreshing. People did not blink standard in the same way as it rotated out. If people are just pulling or buying secret layers for certain theme looks or shiny shit for commander what did you expect WotC to do. Every single problem stems from the shift to commander and wotc wanting to make money off it. That is not to say Commander is bad. It just is what caused this. Anyone who can go to their cupboard and pull out a commander deck with the cheapest varient version of every card is allowed to disagree. The rest of us full art buying sellouts...... We did this to ourselves.
@spartakusbund1916
@spartakusbund1916 7 ай бұрын
⁠@@milqueto4st231one world revolution please
@joeferreti9442
@joeferreti9442 7 ай бұрын
Every single decision by WotC in recent years made MTG worse.
@Reikosamaa
@Reikosamaa 7 ай бұрын
8:00 great sense of direction during the editing there XD that said, as long as we don't get lower rates on rares and mythics i'm fine with the play boosters, makes it far easier for people who just don't know what's the difference of cards you can get.
@joshgutjahr
@joshgutjahr 6 ай бұрын
I think as a newish player this is helpful to simplify things. This was already in place when I started could have saved me a lot of confusion but overall I just hope to draft and pre-releases don't become too expensive to play at stores
@voltcorp
@voltcorp 7 ай бұрын
in my country, I feel drafts and prereleases are already at the most expensive a middle-class-centered community can afford. if these events are about to get even 50% more expensive, it will really galvanize paper magic as a hobby for rich people around here
@bpchongo-.-
@bpchongo-.- 7 ай бұрын
Well wotc is going to have to undo this drafts at my lgs are already barely popping on fridays with 6person pods prerelease is always a blast though
@Lionbug
@Lionbug 7 ай бұрын
I only draft. Not convinced this’ll be a great change..
@MrCrisTheRo
@MrCrisTheRo 7 ай бұрын
Glad you addressed the jumpstart issue. Had a bunch of friends over and spent a not insignificant money on jump booster packs. Try to relive our teens, have some drinks, eat some pizza, play some magic.
@gemma2796
@gemma2796 7 ай бұрын
I always bought set boosters, jumpstart and draft confused me and I never really understood the difference between them all. I'm so glad there's just going to be one main booster! If they are the same price as set boosters as well then nothing will change for be bar it being easier to understand!
@HarroTV
@HarroTV 7 ай бұрын
I know someone posts this every day, but this one was the nail in the coffin for my magic spending, and I am glad I preserved some great draft booster boxes to draft with my friends. I am, personally, of the opinion that a draft format is best with a comparatively low average power discrepancy between rarities and as few strange "bonus slots" as possible. I noticed many players online expressed how the bonus sheets introduced with Strixhaven were super fun because they would "keep the draft format fresh", but that's the opposite of what I experienced. The only sets I enjoyed drafting within the last year or so were Dominaria United and Dominaria remastered (and, if I'm perfectly honest, Commander Masters, but that's its own can of worms). All the bonus sheet sets have been miserable for me. It may be fun to kick people down with a Skithiryx or Ragavan in a Masters set, but doing that in a Standard Set I found it felt like I might as well flip a coin. Now, with Play Boosters, not only are the bonus sheets I so dislike not going away, but ADDITIONAL variance is added to the mix, Wizards basically told me "This format is not for you", and I admit that it makes me very pessimistic about me drafting future magic sets in any meaningful way.
@viviblue7277
@viviblue7277 7 ай бұрын
Yeah. With this change I’ll probably be playing half as many drafts at most. It’s so much harder to justify that expenditure when I’m paying so much for so little draft time.
@f_c2867
@f_c2867 7 ай бұрын
I have a friend that likes magic and I play as well but hadn’t bought boosters in over a year. For his birthday, I went to my local LGS to get him some boosters. Had like a 5min conversation trying to understand what each booster was and what the price would be, plus math for discounts if I happened to buy 4 boosters of some specific type. I ended up turning around and leaving empty handed.
@LCFTW93
@LCFTW93 29 күн бұрын
As someone who's new to magic, (currently only own the one precon, no other cards...) I also like the simplification, like you said. Though I still have to worry about picking which kind if an older set is available... I also like the idea of collector boosters, as far as wanting guarantee on "pretty version", however it is a bit too rich for my blood... which you kind of said (I have not looked at the previous video you did on it, and linked). But as someone who still is interested in buying boosters (even though I've been preached to about buying singles) I feel like opening a collector booster would feel more exciting/fun (until you look at your wallet lol). So I'm not sure what the compromise there would be. Like if they made one combined pack with price between the two, with a quantity of fancy cards in between the two as well... but then I feel like both types of buyers would be upset at that...
@lucarioknightb7685
@lucarioknightb7685 7 ай бұрын
My issue is the vplume of uncommon/commons nyugioh had a similar problem a few years back; they upgraded to having more Super rares (guarenteed 1/pack where previously i believe it had been 1/4 chance) and suddenly rares were harder to track donw than supers. Increasing the number of uncommona per set is juat going to make getting uncommons you actually want for constructed, or consistently finding signpost uncommons in limited, is going to be harder than it already was.
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI 7 ай бұрын
Hopefully this probability layout remains consistent for the foreseeable future - one of the more annoying things with set boosters is that the layout keeps changing from set to set. Overall, I think this is a great change - though I see it less as the two things you said, and more that yes, they discontinued draft boosters, but just made set boosters draftable. I mean, the only real changes are to the new probability layout (which regularly changed anyway), and removing the "story" collation of set boosters, which tbh I wasn't a fan of after the first set or two (since it tends to generate very similar packs). The downside of course is that they just went with the pricing for set boosters, rather than at least averaging the two...
@TheRiseofKali
@TheRiseofKali 7 ай бұрын
I draft often and attend most prerelease events at my LGS. I think that play boosters will make draft/limited more interesting. Sure, it will increase the intensity of play at those events, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Plus, more good cards in the pockets of players.
@clutchhitnick4485
@clutchhitnick4485 7 ай бұрын
As much as i do understand the upset behind keeping the price towards the set booster price, i was never one to buy draft boosters in the first place and really have only attended one prerelease event in my whole life. But one of my favorite parts about opening set boosters was the guaranteed art card, and now to find out they arent guaranteed just disincentivizes me from buying packs at all. Sure they’re by all definition useless, but they were cool and i love the mtg art. I also felt like when i opened draft boosters, that all the cards felt the same. Hopefully these new play boosters still have the fun set booster nature to them, but we’ll just have to wait and see.
@Reach_W
@Reach_W 7 ай бұрын
My biggest concern is and always will be the accessibility of the game and I believe that raising the price of a draftable booster hurts that goal. Of particular concern, Pre-Releases will now cost about 25% more, and that's gonna price a lot of people out of one of the best entry points into the game. And I get it, with where we're at, it's a necessary move to keep the formats I love alive. But it didn't have to be this way if WotC hadn't introduced a product that contained all the fudge-coated booster fun variants and extra rares that were deliberately absent from the Draft Boosters they were purposefully priced to compete with.
@jaggedtoothgrin
@jaggedtoothgrin 7 ай бұрын
One thing I hadn't seen anyone mention at all until now, and was sorta glossed past here The decrease in the number of Common Card Designs will mean that the chances of those individual commons showing up in these new Play Boosters will increase substantially, 20% more likely and, I could be wrong, I don't draft myself, but I don't recall anyone complaining that the variety of commons was just overwhelming and that they wished there were more reprints of the chaff cards. Certainly I'm sure the impact this will have on Pauper Formats will be -substantial- going forwards, and that's something I do care about, and think will suffer because of this change
@andyphilipson6983
@andyphilipson6983 7 ай бұрын
I think it’s a good idea. Now I have the option to play sealed with my boosters that I didn’t when I purchased set boosters just for cracking.
@miandagny
@miandagny 7 ай бұрын
I have not gotten actual boosters in a very long time, I had no idea it's gotten so complicated!
@ryanhunter6029
@ryanhunter6029 7 ай бұрын
My biggest worry is not draft formats, but sealed. Draft i feel can handle the multiple rares per pack, but sealed feels so much more variable now
@czajda
@czajda 7 ай бұрын
I can't wait facing somebody with 6 bombs in their deck 😀
@jbigs65
@jbigs65 7 ай бұрын
I’m just happy that the frequency of the art cards are being reduced. They always feel like a waste of a slot in the set booster.
@ottoprokke6649
@ottoprokke6649 7 ай бұрын
Same, but I assume that means we will get even less tokens, which honeslty annoys me a lot. Why am I getting ads in a pack I payed money for, when they could actually give me something usefull(a token)
@cardflopper3307
@cardflopper3307 7 ай бұрын
i collect the art series, I'm worried that this makes art cards harder to find
@wildstarr
@wildstarr 7 ай бұрын
@@ottoprokke6649 I'm at the point where I just create an image in an AI image generator and print out my own tokens. They are getting so good now I got an nice collection of goblin tokens no other person has.
@themagicofmtg
@themagicofmtg 7 ай бұрын
I enjoy the PreRelease events as the first opportunity for me to get my hands on the cards and play them. I'm not as much of a limited player (being primarily a Commander player) though. I'm more curious how this will affect the number of cards being opened and the average prices of cards. Time will tell.
@chadjones1266
@chadjones1266 6 ай бұрын
Thanks again
@teamalice115
@teamalice115 7 ай бұрын
I agree that I think this is probably the best decision because it does get confusing to know what kind of booster pack to buy. I only recently got back into Magic in the last couple of years and they always confused me when I go to a like local game store and they would ask me if I want draft or set boosters because I’m like I I don’t know I just want booster I just want I just wanna pack. So I think combining them into one will simplify it a little bit and if they’re functional is both, I think that’s probably a good idea but he’s right only time will tell really how this works out.
@antoniodittman5820
@antoniodittman5820 7 ай бұрын
There is one effect on draft you can see immediately. Commons are more common and uncommons are more uncommon. Decks that rely on good commons will be more consistently draftable where as ones that require specific uncommons to really hit 10/10 will be more punishing to draft because you will be less likely to see those enablers. This also means your pack 1 pick 1 will be more of a gamble and you may more often be faced with a situation where a good uncommon enabler is a better choice than a bomb rare. The draft experience will become more difficult and the win ratio of experienced drafters will likely grow further detatched from inexperienced drafters where they had long been surprisingly close
@falconJB
@falconJB 7 ай бұрын
If you want to draft by draft packs if not don't, how is that confusing?
@danielr8875
@danielr8875 7 ай бұрын
Wizards made the change to split boosters into Draft and Set, now they're un-splitting them and they're getting more expensive again. Just a roundabout price increase.
@bennefib
@bennefib 7 ай бұрын
The loved draft boosters because i felt like even with a bit a money, i could play the booster game , ive got some amazing cards from commander drafts and MH drafts.
@DiscipleofVenser1992
@DiscipleofVenser1992 7 ай бұрын
I've played limited since I started in the Scars of Mirrodin block. I found it odd coming back to tabletop MTG that packs were separated between set and draft and more. At the end I do like recombining the packs back into a version kinda like back then. Common to uncommon ratio seems backwards, but details details. Hopefully the prices for limited styles of play won't drastically go up so I can continue enjoying draft and sealed.
@WUBRGer_King
@WUBRGer_King 7 ай бұрын
Even when I had a lot more free time it was tough paying $15 a week if I wanted to draft. Assuming draft will be something like $20-25 with Play Boosters (6x3 plus extra for the store) I anticipate only going to prereleases or only drafting sets I really enjoy.
@24Eagle11
@24Eagle11 7 ай бұрын
I'm surprised I don't see much people talking about how this could fundamentally change how it is to draft sets. As an arena player (and paper) drafting has been my primary way to play since Theros Beyond Death. Drafting is a beautiful meticulous art when it all comes together. Now, to me, it seems like these will be more like mini-cubes than traditional drafting. The overall power level will increase with more rares and uncommons being in the boosters. This in turn will lower the ceiling of top drafters and raise the floor to casual drafters. A positive (for wotc, mostly) that could come from this might actually mean more people will be willing to draft despite the price increase. Especially since if they were buying packs at set booster prices anyway, hardly a difference for them. This of course negatively affects sole drafters like myself, price increase and less complexity when it comes to drafting. Will have to see how this goes but overall it doesn't seem like a good change to me for drafts turning into mini cubes.
@Animusfortemorty
@Animusfortemorty 7 ай бұрын
For me as a casual Commander player i like this. I can buy a box of play booster to draft with out friends and still have good % to refill our shared Binder. At least for the moment it looks like a good change i repeat, for the moment
@deakintressler1797
@deakintressler1797 7 ай бұрын
Prerelease is the most exciting for me ❤🎉❤
@VincentWolfeye
@VincentWolfeye 7 ай бұрын
I like this change in one way. But I really liked the extra commander cards made for setboosters. So I'm a bit sad to see that part of the booster go away. And I like that they aren't theming the commons and uncommons as they did in set boosters. I also liked that the regular commander cards for the set were also reprinted in the set boosters, so you didn't need to tear apart a prebuilt deck to access those cards. Btw are there going to be a is it worth it to buy for the recent secret lair? 😊
@cryptocorner2253
@cryptocorner2253 7 ай бұрын
Back in my day, we bought a box that looked like a miniature spell book hat had a bunch of cards in it. The rarity was completely unpredictable, and that's the way we liked it. We had to walk uphill on snow covered mountains both ways to get to a local game store just to play. (Or we played in the chemistry lab on lunch in high school. But it was hard times okay! You youngins don't know how good you have it with your card sleeves, fancy foil treatment, and unfettered corporate greed.)
@DeucePollock
@DeucePollock 7 ай бұрын
Professor It would rock my socks to play commander with you!!!
@jonpringle6719
@jonpringle6719 7 ай бұрын
Just feel like set boosters with two more commons, can't help feel this was always the plan.
@vincentperon2950
@vincentperon2950 7 ай бұрын
A three year plan on wizzards part? Come on, that's less backed with evidence than flat earth.
@johncreekpaum4998
@johncreekpaum4998 7 ай бұрын
Its probably not related, but a lot of things that were bad decisions bejnh rectified in good ways seems to be coming after WOTC hired Huey Jensen. Pro play became easier to understand, local stores were brought back into the pro scene, the saving of draft, etc. I know he isnt doing all of this, but I can't help but draw a connection.
@Austynrox
@Austynrox 7 ай бұрын
So this will have a big effect on pauper and pauper commander w/ there being less commons and more uncommons?
@genghiscrom4255
@genghiscrom4255 7 ай бұрын
I know wotc likes forcing rotation so congrats! yall found a way to introduce a rotation in chaos draft🥳
@stefanielinger2527
@stefanielinger2527 7 ай бұрын
Cynical me wants to see this as a long con to increase the price for drafting, but I can't quite convince myself that they would pull a 4 year con for this rather than just increasing the price. It's good that this is happening. It always felt bad to buy either draft or set boosters. What if the other side would have been better? Now there is no choice paralysis anymore.
@Tuss36
@Tuss36 7 ай бұрын
Glad to see someone else being reasonable. Many are quick to see a conspiracy in everything, when really Wizards could've just increased the price of boosters whenever they want by however much they want for whatever reason they want.
@midnightpizzagoblin
@midnightpizzagoblin 7 ай бұрын
They'll wait for people to get desperate, and then release a "classic" draft set
@dawildbear
@dawildbear 7 ай бұрын
@@Tuss36 I dunno how many people are suggesting it was some cunning ploy, years in the planning. It is regardless a price hike, and that is disheartening.
@gypsieking3280
@gypsieking3280 7 ай бұрын
But... They did increase prices on all products a year or so ago. They are now using this as a chance to raise prices again.
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