Oh, they know… 😜

Hope you read my feedback 😉

I am using Revit as an example but model coordination does support many different file types from NWCs, to DWGs, and certain IFCs, etc...

Thanks for tuning in and the comment, Riyas!

Yes, great point Jose... I did not mention the process looks a little different in 2023 (but is better!). My sample models were in fact in 2022. But yes, you can publish the way you are saying, too!

Can you share this way?

I am not aware of how you would perform "self intersection vlash detection" even in Navisworks...? That doesn't make sense to me....?

@@TheRevitKid its a tick box in the Navisworks options (4th one along) it basically checks for clashes within the selection as well as checking against the other selection. If I could post a screen shot it would be easier. Anyway if you take your ductwork model and create an obvious clash with duct vs duct in that same view then see if BIM360 detects it and you will hopefully see what I mean. Another way of looking at it is in the clash matrix you have an empty box which it the model against itself, there basically needs to be numbers in there as well. In MEP coordination 99% is with our own elements and we currently cant do that very well with this product which is a massive shame.

@@heymoa wouldn’t model Vs same model be 100% clashes all all elements are overlapped? Couldn’t you just upload different views of each of your duct systems and clash them against each other? I would assume one system wouldn’t really clash with itself in oat cases (ie. Vent Vs supply as opposed to supply Vs supply)

@@TheRevitKid Not if it worked in the same way Navisworks does. Do you know how many views I would have to create and manage to enable this workflow? 3 pipe domestic systems, 4 pipe HTG & CHW systems, containment (multiple), drainage, etc then duplicate them if I want to split by floors. and yes systems clash with themselves till they are coordinated and this cant be checked on BIM360. Its a lot of work to enable the same work flow that is a check box in Navis which has been there for a long time. I feel like BIM360 has been designed for the main contractor to clash detect everyone's models against each other not analyse the model itself. Hopefully they add it in the future

@@heymoa You're still spending the time making a selection set and selecting those specific objects in Navis. I don't see the difference here... If you made a view in Revit that had all levels CHW only on... and then all levels HTG on... you're only making that view once and then publishing... Then its just looking at total building CHW vs HTG... The only difference is you are conditioning your selection in Revit and not in Navis/BIm360 ... I assume all of these filters are set up in your Revit model anyways for your systems and could be built right into your template for every job... Are you talking about the "items in the same file" check box in the navis clash detective tool? All that does is let you search for elements within the same file... You still have to search, condition, or find the systems...

Does the point cloud align when you bring it into Revit without any modification?

@@TheRevitKid yes I figured out how to do that recently using "Register 360 / Leica software", but the Twinmotion coordination is different I guess, I have to try it out again to see where it lands. Note: when I export the pointcloud from Leica I export "points" for the Twinmotion file, and then do another export for a RCP file for inserting into revit. There are other export options to export E57 file but have never tried that. Side note, I recently got a little caught up in cleaning the points in recap. This is tricky as well because if you delete points or set up too many regions it seems to slow down revit after importing the pointcloud. Also someone mentioned to me if you use the fence tool to clean up points it boggs downs the file. All this is a bit tricky but am loving the visuals and the technology so worth the learning curve. Thank you as always!

@@eastudio-K If you are aligning it in Recap and the recap file is coming in right in place... why not export a PTS from Recap and then bring that PTS into TM? Maybe that will make sure it all aligns?? Otherwise, look for something to use a benchmark to align...

@@TheRevitKid Ill try that to see where it lands, I think I tried that from recap and the pointcloud came out grey or faded in twinmotion. When I export from Leica the pointcloud was typical color view. It must be a setting, but your right the alignment should be on in this case. Ill post an update on this thread. Thank you!

@@eastudio-K There is definitely a way to bringt the colors through Recap... 100%.

There is definitely an issue with models that get too big but that’s why we slice and dice models into floors or parts when projects get too large… still, I am working with some very large projects on this platform.

What is your definition of large? Ive had the same experience as Roman. Cloud limitations!

@@jeremyjpegan we do extremely large projects… 17+ story commercial and medical buildings… Breaking it out by floor helps… Also, if the Revit model processing time takes too long we may opt for NWC exports because they process and publish so much faster on ACC.

@@TheRevitKid just so I am clear, you are linking and aligning all MEP, struct, arch, etc. into a container Revit file, separating 3d views by levels and then, possibly further separating the levels by trade and then exporting each trade/level to .nwc and then uploading to BIM 360? all files come in aligned?

@@jeremyjpegan yes. Pretty much exactly.

I have sided solibri but not the other one. Navisworks is becoming my last choice as well thanks for ACc lol! Collaboration and real-time data is the key.

One word, Revizto.

No there is no self clash check but there are plenty of workarounds and other processes

Correct, you on the right path, I been preaching this also that these concepts, workflows and platforms work best when is all under one umbrella, or there is a strong contractual project execution and management of such. Also when the GC and Client also will be using the platform for the overall project benefit.

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@@TheRevitKid thanks appreciated it

100% Agree!

Check out my channel I have a few videos and episodes about what you are talking about. Thanks for tuning in!

@@TheRevitKid actually there's only about scanning n import ..we need complete procedure while importing the cloud to revit it it will ask origin to origin, centre to centre,shared cordinate so what is that all how it is different from one another..what is NWD ,PTS,what is data conversion so some of that all we don't know . Through ur channel pls tell us it will be very helpful