Qotrun Nada 😂😂

My theory is that she got caught using normal detective skills, no way a rodent would be able to recall such memories

@@freddypedraza2066 if they use normal detective work, why bother inteoducing an advanced memory recalling device in the movie? Besides, the police bring that guinea pig with them in the ending scene, and they also have the device. More advanced than the one Shazia had.

Lol 😂 never underestimate a guinea pig’s memory

@Freddy Pedraza You obviously didn’t watch the episode.

BlessedIam when the baby was blind too...

@@adrina4772 Would you be happy if she killed the guinea 🐖

She turned from serial killer to a monster, that's what other guy said in explanation, I liked his one too.

At this point, she would be a mass murderer. But the death of rob in the beginning might be ruled out because it was an accident. If it was ruled out, she would be a serial killer.

If she didn't kill the baby she never would have been caught

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Karen H smart. I always thought it meant she was waiting for her next victim but I think crocodile tears makes more sense

Irrelevant tears are different than fake tears.

It was on the wiki page too

i just thought it was because she "snapped" lol

She couldn't know that the baby was blind, but I think she noticed the Guinea Pig. He can't speak, but he can see and she knew at this time for the rememorator. Never three without four ! 😌

@@josephinegosselin6623 Do you mean she did not notice the Guinea pig? Or she did and did not think the pig could have memories that could have been retrieved by the rememorator. And if she had known that wouldn't she have killed the pig?

Lmaoooo

@@KZfaqr-dq3ko I know guinea pigs are not pigs. They are cavid rodents. I was just omitting the word "Guinea" for the sake of brevity, just as one might say "horse" for seahorse.

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Or trees

Faïsel El Katbani or walls if were at it

That would be an interesting episode if they made a device that could make animals talk

Do you know how many animals would be killed if animals could talk ?

@@laforetsami221 Trees then. If trees and plants could record memories that can be retrieved, and it was made compulsory to have trees everywhere, that could help. What will they do, cut down the trees?

I think she was just repeating it as many times as she could before getting beaten to death.

that's a very great remark!

Highly assumptions by Shazia to think Mia was gonna kill her son and husband

@@stroberri6649 It's not really a big assumption.. Because I found it weird that she said that specific prayer cause usually if muslims were to think they are about to die they would say what's called "The Shahadah". This prayer is usually when one hears about the death of others.

Ok anyways but am I forgetting a scene or something because from what I remember Mia NEVER went to the baby's room BEFORE hearing his voices So that would mean the baby never SAW her.. Why go into the baby's room then??

Poor Shazia, she thought she was investigating a minor accident but instead she dug up something way bigger and she knew her family would die

That's why she was having second thoughts sniffing it because she will absolutely recall

Pretty sure she would've remembered the murder even without the beer, dummy.

OMG true wow Black Mirror you really have to watch it several times to make the things glue together

@@karolclark791That’s the problem with low level office jobs. No way she should be driving into remote areas and going inside peoples houses without backup. Absolutely no way.

That's a great interpretation!

So I guess everyone's a guinea pig. But the guinea pig watches too. Vice versa. & Everyone has crocodile tears? Ok, but I still wouldn't go on a killing rampage tho.

@@ahhwe-any7434 NEVER SAY NEVER

Same

The only bad actor I’ve noticed was Carrie from Black Museum

@@Camibug same omg 💀😳

@@Camibug she’s terrible, I don’t like her acting in black panther either

@@Camibug why?

Interesting take on it

So true! I thought the very same thing!

What is Macbeth

@@Zaulhunter it is a story from Shakespeare about a man or a general who was told he was gonna be king by witches and goes on a killing spree to become king. He wasn't cruel or bad in the beginning, but by the end he is.

Doubt most people stay sympathized with her until the end

Infants can’t stand up. Baby was maybe 1yo

@@rabbitofknowledge8051 lol

@@rabbitofknowledge8051 very wholesome fun

#DeathTo Mia Nolan

@@natepaul6624 stole my reply 😂

@@rabbitofknowledge8051 wholesome fun for the whole family.

I can’t even watch it anymore

Same duh

Haha, I am emotional but would do anything to stop this kind of psychopath in real.

Literally all the fucking episodes do that. Why does you pointing out the obvious deserve these likes? Idiots

Joseph Palmquist I have no idea how this comment managed to trigger you💀

Those are reasonalble, but not entirely. I have to see them both again, but anybody can just say "that guy from Hot Shots," if he never cared to know his name. I forget names all the time too, even famous people. Also, maybe the song "Anyone" was already a popular song and Abi simply choosing to sing it. Maybe she made it, but I have to watch them both again.

@@brucenatelee brucenatelee Very fair point, but the reason I believe it was Abi making "Anyone" famous again, is because she states it was a family hand-me-down. Partly, not fully as you said, suggesting the song hasn't been around for a while. The reason I think it's Judge Wraith, and not Hope, is because of Black Mirror's reference structure with their Easter eggs. They showed Wraith Babes ad, which looked like it was ended, by saying "Best of." If there was a security violation between the two judges, I'd be more inclined to believe it's Wraith. Otherwise, why show Wraith Babes, and not Hot Shots? But you do make a fair argument. Sorry for my novel.

R SQUARED well I remember her saying her mom used to sing it to her and it was passed down, but I don’t think she meant that it was written by her family. Although I guess she probably wouldn’t have known if they did or not. I think it’s more likely that is was just a really popular song in a time beforehand. Also, with the hot shots guy thing I don’t think it necessarily means that something big or horrible happened and the best of could just be explained as the show just being around for at least a year or two minimum. But who know? Maybe you are right I guess we can’t be too sure either way.

@@indigoray6693 You are right, Abi's family did not write the song, I was suggesting that Abi made the song relevant again. The reason I'm certain something big happened with the Hot Shots judge is because the Hotel outright changed it's security policy. This means whatever that violation is, it could have/has effected businesses already. You are right though, we can never KNOW, but it's something to think about. I'm just happy, we can all brainstorm respectively, thank you.

This thread is fascinating. I always just assumed the hotel clerk was referring to Judge Hope regarding the tighter security on privacy issue because Judge Wraith didn’t seem like the type to indulge in “rent boys”, whereas I could see Hope... he always seemed disingenuous when discussing the adult entertainment with Abi... I’m paraphrasing here, but something like “I could see you working on Wraith’s channel, and it’s really turning me on”. It always seemed like he was trying a little too hard to sound straight or something, but this is all of course my own warped opinion and interpretation of Hope. I agree with the other theory though, that Crocodile is occurring some time in the near future of the 15 Mil Merits timeline, as “Best Of” titles typically refer to a series that has reached its finale, or hasn’t pronounced any new content for awhile. Doesn’t necessarily mean the incident with the hotel’s privacy and the mystery Judge had anything to do with that either, sometimes... well, series just end. I also liked the idea that Abi’s performance of the song, as a good singer on Hot Shot - turned porn star on Wraith Babes, would have brought an oldies song back into the spotlight. So... I’d never be able to have this conversation with anyone IRL, so I just wanna say again that this thread is awesome.

Facts that is obviously not safe for her.

This. It's my least-favourite episode because the plot just feels like a lazy attempt to create a dark outcome. If the memory-reading device existed and people were legally obligated to submit to it, there's no way they'd just be sending unarmed agents out solo to demand criminal evidence, because people would've started murdering them IMMEDIATELY. So the scenario that plays out isn't really interesting, because it's too predictable to have let happen at all, compared to all the other episodes with interesting unforeseen consequences to seemingly useful and well-regulated tech.

Loads of employers don’t care about low level officer admins like Shazia until something like this happens and remember this was a relatively new technology that had just been rolled out. Most of those insurance company workers/salesmen also go about bothering people on their own so it’s not a stretch at all

Just put a little removable camera in her head that livestreams shit straight to her employers during her shift.

True. The dentist/doctor was obviously peeping and checking other people's privacy, and she probably encountered things like that in the past. But it's always shortly before the insurance incident, so based on evidence she had about that person, it was virtually impossible for them to be a murderer just before witnessing an insurance incident. As murder is not exactly something you do while in the sight of others. Until of course, a freak situation occurred.

Abigayle he’s already mentioned that in the black museum ending explained

I wanted that bitch (Mia) to die...

@@VeeDizzle83 me too

@@VeeDizzle83 my name is mia and this is horrifying lmao

@@dustwinebirds9123 lol sorry not you 😂

@@VeeDizzle83 no, she's perfect for the amusement park shown in the episode 'white bear'

Natey would be cool tho...

@@cawmusic I bet you're fun at parties

That would just be cruel.

@@cawmusic hey, I'm just trying to advocate for more content 😂😂

They all happened simultaneously in Michael Carrow's head to distract himself while he was porking Mrs Piggy.

Oh yeah, the justice park!

The white bear justice park would've been way too good and merciful for the likes of someone of her depravity and immorality

@@dchappell05 what she did was kinda similar to the girl from White Bear though

@@aaronowens924 Exactly! The girl from White Bear isnt much better having been an accessory in the murder, kidnapping and killing of a young child. I always feel weird that so many people feel so sympathetic for her

OMFG YES

not meaning to be rude but ofc crocodiles kill their prey 💀💀 how else would they eat them, they'd die eventually

@@miles4939 The point | | | You

@@jdixon390 I get what the point is, it's just that it's a very vague point and could apply to a bunch of animals and not just crocodiles

I thought it was referring to the reptilian part of the brain

marz&miles you clearly don’t get references very much do you? You picked the first part of the sentence and didn’t relate it to the show

Mia's what's called a villain protagonist. Protagonist isn't interchangeable with "hero", it just refers to the main character and they can be morally good or bad; the antagonist is whoever/whatever stands directly in the way of them achieving their goals and, again, can be morally good or bad. In this case, Mia's the protagonist (since it's her story) with the goal of keeping the original murder (and all subsequent murders) hidden. Shazia is the main antagonist with Mia's ex-boyfriend and the police as secondary antagonists.

how was the husband not a last straw? that man was completely innocent, and seemed nice as hell too.

@@CamJames Can't speak for the OP but I assume it's because the husband was a grown man who at least stood a chance of defending himself. Whereas the baby was blind (so Mia had no reason to kill him and it really wouldn't have been too hard for Mia to have found out) and stood absolutely no chance of defending himself. Plus harm to children and animals naturally makes a lot of people have a more visceral reaction of shock and horror than harm to grown adults precisely because they're less able to defend themselves - that's why even in prison people who have committed crimes against children will often be shunned and targeted by other prisoners.

Overly Dramatic Panda surprised in the bath? the husband stood zero chance. You didn't watch the episode.

@@CamJames ​ Really? You're going to presume to know whether or not I watched the episode purely based on the fact that you happen to disagree with my assessment? Okay then... And no, the husband didn't stand much of a chance. But compared with the blind baby? He stood *more* of a chance - he noticed Mia before she hit him, therefore he could have feasibly reached up to grab the hammer, for instance. It's understandable why he didn't but, again, compared to the blind baby who genuinely stood zero chance due to *being a blind baby* ..? And anyway, as I said before, harm to children and animals naturally evokes a bigger shock/horror response in most people than harm to grown adults precisely because children are seen as being less able to defend themselves (which is probably why they even included that being the final murder in the episode as opposed to having Mia just murder the husband and then leave without discovering the baby).

The more you write the better you get!

If you ever finished this I would love to read

I’d like to read it, too!

@@jetwingsdaydream same!

@Tangerine Hircine Same! I love these kind of stories

she didnt smell the alcohol though

I think she specifically avoided to smell the alcohol tho, probably because of that

@@davidkonevky7372 Yeah that's exactly why she didn't smell it

You're lucky. Iceland is an absolutely beautiful country.

You're automatically a douchebag just because you said "weird flex". Jesus dude. You've reached levels of douche baggery that will live on for generations.

@@infinitygodking4750 How does that make him a douche?

INFINITY GODKING no your a douche for calling him out.

Cool! Did you go there before or after they filmed it? Like was it a school trip specifically to see the BM filming location? If so that’s one great school you attend.

I could be wrong but I remember her mentioning to her ex, something about the whole place smelling like that.

The smell was on the whole street so going into the hotel she would have smelt it

Tolu1994 took the words out of my mouth. Unless she was beamed into the hotel USS Callister style, she would have been on the street at some point, parking the car, getting dropped off by a cab, walking into the hotel, etc. Its mentioned a couple times that the entire area has that distinct scent in the air from the brewery.

she drank one and even offered her ex some in the hotel room

joj aun Yeah but Shazia didn’t know that.

Lol

saw what you did there.. lol

Lmfao 😂

@@wint3rxxx que ñ

🤣

Isn't that also what it is?

But Im pretty sure why that's why the episode is called crocodile

Crocodile tears are fake. She’s not fake crying.

She's a sociopath.

@@serene1275 no she isn’t. A sociopath would be unbothered. She is obviously riddled with emotion.

No, she was looking at tools to kill with. Doesn’t mean she was craving it. She wasn’t running around looking to kill people. She was killing to hide a crime. The intent is completely different.

@@strafer8764 I think , she was killing to hide a crime still she was willing to commit more.

@@rajnihada8863 yea that’s what happened

I thought that too

No it’s cos Jodie foster directed it and she was in Bugsy

@@asianmelb i reckon it's both :)

CZsWorld lol 😂

@@trashcollector6184 why are you laughing? Maybe you should be more respectful

@@Ryan-pg1tw pretty sure its normal to laugh at a joke

Oh god

True😂

You know what else is weird? Seeing one of my favourite guitar channels comment on one of my other favourite channels.

@@Blurro ohhhh......ok

Because at first it was totally not her fault and she wouldn't need to answer for it. But actually helping Rob hide the body and not reporting on it for years is what would get her jail. Killing Rob could be classified as an impulse. The way in which her character is portrayed i don't think she would would be capable to kill the infant at the beginning. She just thought she went too far to have it all ruined. And all she had to do was to tell the police that she was scared of Rob so she did as he asked. I'm sure her family could somewhat come to terms with that. But killing an infant is just way too far to give any excuse

Oooh I like that!

That’s quite a stretch but I wouldn’t rule it out.

I thought it meant "Crocodile Tears" cause she cried throughout the whole episode and after each murder.

men against fire is also shown on arkangel. it's used as a sample for the implant to block out, men against fire may have been a movie in blackmirrorverse

Thanks! I always find it so ridiculous when respectable people start saying "oh they must generate electricity". Jesus, this is about the most inefficient way possible to produce it in terms of energy input/output ratio. They have these highly advanced neuro devices that are basically a philosophers stone but need to bike for current like Neanderthals? Cycling for electricity simply makes zero sense at all and trying to rationale it into the BM-Verse is not productive. 15mio merits is a beautiful metaphorical episode that does not need to be pressed into anything.

MisterCharlton I think that 15mm & metalhead where stories that were made with cookies of real people, in 15mm they use cookies of people for tv entertainment and in metalhead they’re for a video game

@@oshmantounkara7642 What do you mean cookies of people?

@@Begeru he means the episode white Christmas

I second this, with his analysis style I think this would turn out to be a really interesting video!

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yooo that'd be so cool

Once I reach my next milestone of 100k I will

Thank you!

Guinea pig* they love mazes. It's entertaining to them. Don't get it twisted....👊

Guinea pig. And what's smug about being a non-voluntary witness to a murder?

​@@dondragmer2412 why😂? You upset she was caught.

I agree but that's also related to the point he was mentioning, that technology can't change human nature. It's humans that either make it worse or better.

Jen farmer Wtf is that argument the baby she killed didn’t even really get to live at all your mentality is actually really frightening

Joy Augustina Petinrin I disagree. The technology is the problem.

Thank you Joy. I have reached the exact same conclusion.

Of course she is fully to blame for her own actions, nobody is saying otherwise. Bryce Brown is just making an argument that this massive intrusion into our own minds creates a perverse incentive for people who are already immoral enough to kill other people for their own gain. Making sure there are no eyewitnesses creates a perverse incentive for "regular" criminals to become killers. That's the argument. I've been robbed at gunpoint in an unlit street and I can see how fucked up it would be to have been killed just to make sure that they wouldn't get caught. Luckily the kids who robbed me had no incentive to kill me and I'm here wasting my time on KZfaq.

THIS. And when the song says we could have been anything we wanted to be, it definitely hits deeper realizing the society has manipulated our memories against us and fully created a surveillance world.

Misty Hawk and fifteen million merits

Misty Hawk And white Christmas

And Crocodile

How does using the memory recalled have anything to do with Shazia, it has to do with the people she uses it on, she watches it from a monitor, she doesn’t use the memory recaller on herself.

He should also do a separate video on that episode

Zanele Mnguni he did

This episode gave me anxiety 😔

This episode was kinda boring. Just one killer killing bunch of people.

@@anhbayar11 agree I almost turned it off like gibe times. I had that with no other bm episodes

feels like one of the futuristic episodes i love the pizza trucks lol

Those weren't croc tears cos there wasn't anyone to fool she was on her own. She was genuinely crying for doing what she felt she HAD TO DO because it was so extremely brutal.

this episode has no depth

Because it had spoilers of other episodes too

Mandy This is so me lol 😂😂😂

I can so relate lol 😂

Omg im shocked😱

Thank you!

Awesome to hear!

Thank you, it takes a while haha

She didn't know the baby was blind.

@@nirupampratapgiri7879 it doesn’t fucking make it any better shut up what kind of sadist kills a baby? kills anyone? she could’ve kidnapped the baby and kept it safe or something

@@no-jm3tw Chill, they're not making any excuses for her, just stating facts. That was supposed to be the irony of this whole situation. If she'd known the kid was blind, she would've probably left him alone or whatever

@@johnsk.j6894 i’m stating a fact too? who cares if she thought the baby could see there’s still different measures she could’ve took

She didn't know.

Same!

No crocs in florida, those are alligators.

Other episodes of Black Mirror also have chips and other sorts of implants being put on people but they almost never break the skin and the people don’t even flinch. Technology I guess

The needle is probably coated with a painkiller and antiseptic substance.

Thank you!

That's awesome to hear, thank you!

Yeah it was totally nonsense to show mia killing her boyfriend at first place.

Even if she gets a light sentence, that would ruin her career and she might lose a lot of standing and opportunities because of her record.

​@@idreadFell365 😂 So what happened now then? Her career is finished and maybe she has multiple life sentences isn't it? After all she did?

​@@idreadFell365 😂 And btw she was now arrested right in front of her son on his event day in School. The best ending ever👍🤣

what like theyll use that memory device on him and she help trowing the guy in the water

Awesome to hear

And the Bandersnatch episode shows Metalhead as a video game too

@@bel8910 True but that one could also just be an easter egg since we only see the design of the dog and nothing else. Metalhead can fit in the Black Mirror timeline at the very end of everything, plus there's a news line in one of the episodes about the military using dogs

I thought 15 million merits was closer to Hang the DJ- hold on lemme explain. So Hang the DJ is basically an app showing the “virtual” them finding each other. Not fake but not real either. So on 15 MM the pedal all day and get merits and this virtual thing you buy stuff for but don’t really get. Like a videogame being played from the otherside. Or at least thats how i see it

You see the thing is that cheap food is already "grown" in a lab today. Maybe the cyclists are like modern factory workers, cheap labour with room and board, cheap factory food. Eternally in debt. And maybe there was a world outside of that prison-like setting.

YEAHHH

I'm not sure if anyone could top The Talk's (formerly known as Screenprism) analysis. It's brilliant; I'd recommend it to anyone who has yet to watch it.

your name and profile pic had me burst out laughing during my lecture

@@peepeepoopoo7182 glad to make u smile

Maybe a friend visited and called the police

They have a more advanced version of the technology than the insurance company, perhaps.

Somebody probably came to visit, stumbled upon the murder scene and called the police..

Righttttt?!

Good timing lol