Seems like they got off light when considering the crimes they committed

Ending sucked ass

@@fsp394 coulda been better tbh. A lot of buildup and doesn’t deliver as hard as it should

@@Jpro2000That’s what happened. It’s not a thriller

@@SuperWhofan1 that’s true. But idk I think I would rather see the aftermath then see narrators say it. I thought that stage scene was weird and random

Honestly even if those devils didn’t faced justice I’m happy that they couldn’t get rid of the Osage people

I burst in tears when I saw Martin. Felt like this is him ending his career on such a high note.

@@horizoniki hopefully it isn’t and he’s got another few in him. Certainly felt that way though, you’re right

@@horizonikiI doubt it…he’s still relevant and as long as he is so..he’ll probably keep making films to the day he dies

Superb!

I disagree..The whole radio thing was jarring and unnecessary ..End with her walking out and the pow wow

Great for a laugh.

i did feel it to be too long though.

@@chrillex91 i did little research about the book, just little because i would prefer to know about the movie as little as possible. so, somewhat i know the general conflict of it specially for this movie. if they want for 4 hours of this quiet and slow movie, they might want to consider to have intermission or turn in to mini series (but if they want to turn this into series, they need to pick up the pace. man, slow pace really feel much more slower if you watch at home).

Lets be honest here, this film blows Oppenheimer out of the water.

​@@BruceThePugDogoh definitely. I said the same thing

​@@BruceThePugDogNah Oppenheimer still wins. Disappointed with how much of Tom White's stuff was cut from the book and given to that snake Ernest.

@@travisspazz1624he’s not a snake, he’s a coyote 😊

⁠​⁠@@travisspazz1624I personally preferred having less of the FBI focus because the book plays them up to be more heroic and white savior-y. Like yeah they solved the main root of the crime, but not only did it take them an embarrassing amount of time, a lot of other deaths were just forgotten and never investigated

The Indians were funny.

I wouldn’t go that far at all, jaw dropped 😂

And today they are attempting to retell and rewrite the history surrounding slavery.

​@@bangoashremember🤔 these are white people who believe they are bigger than God himself

@@ignoranceisnotatrend4669what do u get this from? Every group of people have those in power who control the majority. That life. Attributing this to just “white people” is racist and very oblivious of u

Eh they also practiced cannibalism. Don’t leave that out of the “loving” nature of the natives

Still waiting for the movie of the my Lai massacre in Vietnam in 1968.

I’m part Osage and this movie hit me hard. I did not know the history of that side of my lineage. And to understand now that I am most likely a product of those horrible things depicted. Just… fuck

​@@Reebonics😭 can't imagine how that feels. Many people are victims or products of messed up stuff from evil. Often boils down to $ or power. It's horrible.

Not sure if happens, Mollie Burkhart's in-law disown nor acknowledge their grandchildren. Even Mollie's mom disown her because of white husband. The drunk sister was favorite child.

It wasn't "white men" It was freemasons. Any white man who is not a freemason knows exactly how the Osage were treated. Awful creatures.

there is no such thing as white ancestry

True to this day

EXAAAAAAACTLY!!!😡

Exactly. If he truly loved her he wouldn’t have killed her family and then tried to kill her. He’s a psychopath.

@@puncake8945 I really hate it when they try to assign a redeeming quality to a despicable person.

@@nastee10 exactly wtf. If this were a woman murdering her husband’s family for money you bet she wouldn’t have gotten any redeeming qualities, disgusting. I hated the “I love her” part.

Mollies granddaughter told Scorsese that Earnest actually loved Mollie. It was a sick relationship but real and still happens in America everyday. Money corrupts everyone’s morals

Look up dr shiva guys got a lot to say

I understood that but found it jarring and trite..End with the focus totally on the Osage- Molly walking out on Ernest and the pow wow..

Did he really lie to her? He really didn’t know what was in those shots. He wasn’t a physician or a scientist. He even drank it himself.

@@Clokes_ He at least wasn't honest with her. If I remember correctly, she asked him if he had only given her insulin, and he said yes. That was a lie. But to be fair, maybe I'm misremembering her exact words, or maybe it's a translation issue; I watched the movie with a German dub. I have to rewatch the movie in English once it's available as a blu-ray or stream to be sure whether his "yes" was definitely a lie or still in some kind of gray area.

@@ObservableObserver Who knows? I’m just going on from what I saw from the movie. The real Ernest Burkhart might’ve known.

@@Clokes_ Yeah, I was specifically talking about the movie.

I agree..End with the focus totally on the Osage- Molly leaving Ernest and the Pow Wow..After three and a half hours I don't think anyone would have stuck around for a post credit radio scene..I know the lucky strike radio broadcasts were a big part of the book but it was jarring and trite in the film

LOL

Yes, there is a lot more to this story especially the Osage county probate court… and the state of Oklahoma attorney general office … and much much more… every Osage family was affected in someway clear up to the present; yes, a good long mini series

It's not like people were suddenly murdered the day after getting married. They slowly started ramping up. One person dies, it's an accident. Two people dies, tragic. Three people die, that's unlucky. Four people die, now that's getting suspicious. By the time everyone figures something's wrong, a bunch of people have died already.

The genocide of native Americans is just as subtle as everything else the US does. To this day the entire tribes keep fading to gambling, alcohol and drug addiction.

Takes longer

More like don’t trust white people remember the Tulsa massacre also happened in Oklahoma

I had to say it out loud to myself too. Heck, I even had to scroll back to hear it again. What a mind-bogling, ridiculas amount of money. Because they can. IF it indeed was 200 million. Well, it won't be far of the mark. Time will tell.

Dude, this was not about Heroes. It was about tragedy and sorrow, betrayal. Yeah, Tom White was pivotal and in the book it is very well acknowledged but really, did you want a Detective movie, seeing the board with pins and the suspects pictures with strings interconnecting them? We’ve seen that. In none of his movies where crimes are committed and solved by the law enforcement, very little is seen of it (except Departed because .. well it’s a duplicitous story). We never knew how did the FBI caught Henry Hill either. It’s a different perspective. There are no heroes in this movie. This one is not about that.

@@rawpower12xu yes there is a hero in the movie his name's Tom White the movie didn't capture it just like I said

@@rawpower12xu blah blah blah you're boring don't call me dude dude

I thought with what screen time Tom White was given in this movie they captured the importance of him really well.

@horizoniki No, several times in the book had he given up, it would have been over

What a sad life you must lead then because you’re missing out on a massive amount of film performances that are amongst the greatest of all-time. Not to mention missing out on seeing so many of the best movies ever made. I can never imagine thinking politics is worth robbing yourself of the pleasure of great art.

@@Kingofsweaters Bobby boy is an overrated actor.

@@Kingofsweaters Not sad at all. I rather read the book . Love how people speculate and think they know something while knowing absolutely nothing.

Well dam that's like 4 movies

Totally worth it! (Just saw it)

Saw it on opening day and made it through beginning to end with no issues.

White grandpa problems here

@@horizoniki Duh! It was even worst when I was 21 ... good active kidneys. Millennial presumes wrong!

@aindi747 damn they said all that in the movie? I missed that

The italian subtitles I saw it in said heroin..

Oklahoma

The radio show really happened

Yeah that was the goal. Are we supposed to feel content that this story was largely untold for so long??

7 out of 10? In your opinion what’s an 8 then?

This is how Disney is killing cinema. A raw, genuine and a pretty regular movie is considered “hardcore” these days. 20 years and some ago cinema was made out of movies like this.

I didn't like the lucky strike radio broadcast (which was in the book) at all..End with the focus totally on the Osage- Molly leaving Ernest and the Pow Wow

Then go see Spider man: j*rking off at home

😂😂😂I know it’s like 4 hours

6 ppl walked out in the movie... I was watching the watch as much as the screen. The cuts were weird... And drama moved slower than a sleeping cheetah. After 2 hrs i checked the watch and saw only 1 hr had passed.

I think bringing back intermissions for movies of certain lengths. It would help keep attention and allow a break.

@@Grey-Wino389i know ritht