11.4

10 although I was new to Star Trek.

7.6

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If he never did it, it must have been a new experience for Mr. Scott, not for nothing did the Enterprise always be proud to have him included as someone trained in this type of teleportation thing.

Has anybody got a towel?

What his line should have been was aye aye sir to a command of warp nine right now as soon as they hit pad

When you have to shoot, just shoot, don’t talk. - Taco from the good the bad and the ugly.

@@JamesBond-hm3bw word's to live by my friend. Done and Done with zero silly conversations. In movie parlance they refer to it as ; monologuing.

Chris Pine is my favorite Kirk. Way better than Strange New Worlds. Wish Pine and Gal Gadot could star in Trek together, she could be his wife... Admiral T. Kirk. (T for Tiffany)

and with no warp core, can you imagine that.

​@@kingsman8475 i can My ships do that in emergency ITS A ENERGY SOURCE FOR WARP

@@kingsman8475 Yes I can imagine that because this scene is *before* Kirk ordered the warp cores to eject to propel them out of the singularity

​@@kingsman8475the Enterprise still had it's warp core at that point

And with 'phasers' that look more like Star Wars laser bolts.

Plot armor is super tough!

Plotinum mk.III to be precise.

You're overthinking it. As soon as they ejected the warp core, they should have no longer been able to sustain the warp speed that was keeping them at distance from the singularity and should have instantly fallen into it.

@@TheRealAfroRick well... that's... The first law of plotinatic effects: *Due to interference from a higher dimensional being, physical laws and properties are filtered, reducing immense efforts into smaller efforts* For non-readers: because the narrator decided so, the main protagonists can't die so easily.

The explosion was like being hit or projected by a deflating ballon the energy was too vast and just rocked the ship. A surfboard caught in a big wave.

Yep, even current modern cruisers have automatic defense systems, always wondered why Starfleet ships don't try to outmaneuver torpedoes fired at them or even have some small phaser banks that try to shoot them on course. They are always playing sitting duck.

Actually makes sense. Oncoming targets you have a lot less time to lock on. If I'm going forward at 10km/s and the missile is inbound at 10km/s, that means we're approaching at a combined 20km/s. Now on the other hand if I approach that volley crosswise, relative to me those missiles are going 10km/s. Or if I approach from the rear, I might be able to take even longer to aim, since they'd be stationary relative to me.

@@adamb89 I don't know. In principle, sure, but the missiles incoming against Enterprise were moving slowly enough to see coming.

@@barryon8706 Well Enterprise had another advantage in that phasers are a directed energy weapon. I know these come out like pew pew pulses, but Star Trek canon holds that they are near-instant hits at combat range. But a sustained volley coming at the Enterprise might overwhelm the targeting. So the Enterprise would be limited primarily in how quickly it can make targeting adjustments. A hit's an instant kill traveling at near-light towards something designed to blow up when you have the luxury of not being blown up while you adjust your aim.

I've always thought that photon torpedoes had their own shields ... very powerful for their size, maybe overloaded, since they only need to run for a handful of seconds before impact. That would explain point defense being ... well ... pointless, LOL. Overloaded shields could also explain why they glow like energy weapons.

keeping 14 if 1 didn't work meant death.... they only had one chance..... let her rip

@@joeclayton2121 I was joking/memeing over the poor writing that he said *THE* core meaning they only had one but then seconds later you see them eject multiple cores.

Also doesn't it need the core to stay at warp?

@@sticky170 Yes. Without it the ship cannot maintain a warp bubble and thus drop out of warp.The warp core generates ionized gas ("electro-plasma") which is the "EP" in the often heard "EPS conduits" or "EPS power taps". This is the only source powerful enough to drive the warp coils and provide FTL flight. The entire ship can be run for unlimited periods of time off this system.

​@@Darth1Marik you really are a star trek fan

Its James T. Kirk, What do you expect. Lol

or how about use the red matter to kill the supernova thats about to waste romulus since its the past now instead of contuing this useless movie.

@@ivanivan4265 no, it's Nu-Kirk

@@MarAntTheOG there is over a century before the supernova

@@augustjsb so why not prevent the supernova before it even happens?

Scotty - THE MIRACLE WORKER !

Scotty's ALWAYS the MVP.

I thought similarly while first seeing it on the big screen in '09. "Why fire on a dying ship that YOU JUST OFFERED ASSISTANCE TO?"

It isn’t exactly black hole. It is wormhole. Narada already traveled once

If that had been the Enterprise-D crew, or the Voyager crew, you can bet your ass you would have had someone saying "Captain, we should pull back to avoid being pulled into the singularity". Why Spock didn't do it is out of character, done only for Hollywood drama. Proper Trek wouldn't have let it happen.

Everybody on the other ship should die instantly by gravity the moment blackhole is form Enemy ship should have energy weapon instead of only missile which is stupidly slow as we see on screen. How come they warp people out through enemy ship. Shouldnt it have some kind of barrier or Enterprise could simply warp enemy captain out of their ship at will So much plot hole

Oh, they could have. It's just a lack of imagination.

They needed to give Scotty a reason to say "I'm giving it all she's got"

Kirk had the Enterprise finish off the Narada so that it would not cause trouble someplace else. He could not leave until it was damaged beyond repair.

A guy that dangerous (I mean he destroyed a planet) you don't take risks, you keep shooting until you're out, or there's nothing left to shoot.

Exactly.

You would die immediately getting sucked into a black hole anyway

@@Icetea-2000 No you don't. In fact the larger the black hole, the longer you have before you reach the singularity, especially if you're not nosing directly down into it but are being pulled in like a spiral. This opens up some very interesting thought experiments because from the perspective of an outside observer, you never fall into a black hole. You freeze at the event horizon and remain there forever, slowly red-shifting away until you're gone. But from your perspective falling in, you cross the event horizon just fine. You're able to look up to the dwindling bit of space you can still see and see eons pass in seconds.

@@adamb89 Yes but when you die you die, there’s no suffering, your body is being stretched like spaghetti but obviously you can’t live like that, your brain would be pulled apart making you die instantaneously.

its called weapons lock

It is the most accurate thing about future space weapons, We have this technology at the moment.

@@dt9327 we have othee things to, dear oh dear some people need to learn.

That’s what phasers do, they hit their targets accurately. It’s why they don’t have starfighters in their universe.

@@NeroVingian40 they have attack fighters and smaller little attack ships. so you're wrong man

Hey now you should know logical thought processes are thrown out the window when writing 85% of "modern movies for modern audiences" that and he (nero) was a Romulan so logic is aenthama to his people

Oh, Nero is bat sh!t crazy even by *Romulan* standards by the time this all goes down. Same people don’t load their ship up with dangerously experimental Borg-tech to go back in time. Also if memory serves, the official line of the Romulan government (what’s left of it post-supernova) was that it was all the Federation/Vulcan Science Council’s fault.

@micheljavert5923 true but "he's crazy" is weak writing. Also, regardless of the official statements from the Romulan government, Nero still knows the truth.

Kirk screwed up by not blasting on the run anticipating what was gonna happen! Spock fucked up as well!!! Amateures!!!!

So yrue, but but it wouldn't have been exciting enough lol

Or time. I'm watching this and saying "what are you waiting for dumbass.? GET OUT OF THERE" Seriously if he had just ordered Sulu to come about, they could have gone to warp before the black hole was fully formed. One of the many problems with the Abrams Universe. Making dumb mistakes like this just for a more dramatic scene.

Because fuk'em!

Lol. Its a movie. They needed extra drama. And also a reason for Scotty to say "I'm giving her all she's got!"

really?

Tres cool.

@@Ghostbuster_Webs Really.

And who later played Mr. Scot(ty), in Star Trek Continues

The prequel graphic novel gave him a lot of much-needed backstory.

Yeah. He did the pointless screaming much better than the other movie villians.

What? From who/whom?

same

@@mikerodgers7620 thats what i was thinking, this was probably the best of the recent star trek up until that point, yes beyond was terrible but this felt good

Right. This was a fine reboot. They did well with the casting too.@@bencurran3204

Sort of… I think the actors were excellent choices; although, I’m not so sure about Chris Pine. He’s good as his own captain, but he’s not Kirk-like. He’s very different. Obviously, no actor wants to just do an impression of a previous actor in a role, but there are certain qualities that need to be retained. I wasn’t a huge fan of the visuals in these movies. The plots were alright. I agree about the casting. In my mind, they’re what saved this from being forgettable and make it rewatchable.

Sorry but I have to disagree. He had the right cast but totally trashed it from the outset. He did not get Star Trek wich is why he had to destroy it first. A savage pity as this could have been a monumental reboot with a new generation of actors.

JJ's a hack.

@@jkleylein Not always, but he seemed to be here.

@Captain-General Kittonius I can agree with that.

Yes he always was a Star Wars fan, that's why some things in his films remind of Star Wars, San Francisco looks like Coruscant and Kirk works like Luke Skywalker.

The only good things about this thing was Zachary Quintos as Spock and Nimoy as Ambassador Spock 🖖

@@LSOK38 agreed. the rest is brainless.

In my opinion Abrams captured the "reality" of Trek tech like no other series has up to right now. Case in point, the Universal Translator in Beyond. It showed the alien talking in her language and then it being translated into English. The audience heard both, the way it should be. In TNG the translator is in the comm badge, but nobody wears a bone conduction device or earpiece so does everyone hear the translator out loud?!? The warp bubble in the Abrams films is shown as a bubble around the craft as it travels through warp. The visuals are just amazing. Trek writers have used a warp wave a vessel will ride, but the vessel superstructure can't handle speeds above warp 1. That's why they have the warp field. So unless the warp wave creates a warp field around the vessel, the vessel would be torn apart. The thought that Starfleet vessels don't require all life forms to dial English is also ridiculous. In a battle, imagine losing power mid battle. Who is coordinating damage control of the bad writing of Disco was actually how it was, and the UT can go offline? Abrams Trek should restore the Timeline, crossing into SNW, and establishing a brand new Prime universe from that point forward, with SNW season 3 beginning that new timeline. Only Spock, Scott, and Pike will be aware of the reset timeline as they will protected by temporal tech. Have the reason be that Kirk, in Abramsverse, gets killed, and this one event causes such a ripple that they need to go back to before Kirk was born, and set off a quantum torpedo at the event horizon of the cosmic storm. A cgi aged Zachary Q and aged Simon Pegg are the two that travel back to do it. This can also explain why Chekhov is dead. So from 2233, Kirk's birth, the Timeline would be restored. Erasing all of Discovery, yeah!! Erasing the Spore Drive, the bad uniforms, the red angel, and everything else that makes no sense. They could also use this opportunity to return the 1701 to a more TOS visual ship. Tweaking the visuals so the scenes in TNG Era shows about going back in time actually make sense for people watching them. Or give a reason they don't with one line of dialog akin to "So Scotty, did they show the remains of those orb like vessels found in the ice?" "Look around, they've managed to incorporate about 5% into the Contitution Class vessels. After I submitted my theory for transwarp beaming, I was invited to examine some of wreckage." Bang! Simple and done. Now that takes care of why TOS looks different, giving validity to the Enterprise Borg storyline.

@@bobastu Reality of trek tech? Like the BS personal transporter in the first movie? Just because it all has more bling doesn't mean it's more realistic. And the Narada? Come on..

They are . Script is done

It’s so fire to see that

Warp capable means it can deal with relativistic effects, and that it has inertial dampeners that prevent the crew from turning into red/green mush when going from 0 to full impulse (1/4 c)

Ships can be towed though. One subspace communication to earth and theyd have a ride home in a few days at most.

Those ejected ones were auxilliary warp cores

The core doesn't make the warp field; it generates the power required to travel at warp velocity. I imagine there was some power still in the ship to keep the warp drive running to escape the black hole, then it was a matter of towing Enterprise back to a dock to install a new warp core.

After surviving they could call for a re-supply so they don't have to fly several light years at impulse power

They were still on the outskirts of our solar system

Impulse engine and limp to nearest station i guess.

I doubt there was really any time to as he was in the middle of being chased/shot at, plus download with WHAT device, he didn't have anything that could do that with him during the rescue.

@heintz256 with tech that advanced I doubt it would have been that time consuming. Just a verbal order would have done it.

Temporal prime directive was enacted for a reason. They knew the ship was time capable and knew the timeline for the future the old Spock was from. But the ship was too much future.

@Debbie Bernhardt Kirk was the reason the Temperal Prime Directive was enacted in the 1st place in the original time line. In this one neither he nor anyone else from This new time line had done any time traveling so the Temperal Prime Directive doesn't apply since it couldn't have been enacted yet. Since there was no reason for it to have been.

@@russell5078084 Spock of old was forced to violate the temporal prime directive.

Yeah That's the point

They were at warp speed at that point. The black hole was strong enough that even a ship moving beyond lightspeed wasn’t enough to escape on its own. The explosion of the cores was enough to push the enterprise to a speed adequate for escape

​@@jejeakle it was actually almost 7 times the speed of light, given the enterprise capable of warp 7-9

​@@ryandanial i think the Enterprise A maxxed out at 4.5 in TOS. Enterprise D did warp 9 i think. Not sure about kelvin timeline though

@@deadturret4049 the TOS once reached warp 10, from that one episode where enterprise isnt in their control(i forgot),since the kelvin timeline is based on TOS i doubt it can do the same

Anything is better than STD at this point

The bigger irony is that Romulus is not the ancestral home of Romulans. So not only did one Romulan Hybrid doom their adopted home, another Romulan doomed their ancestral one. Tragedy at it's finest.

And yet it got 2 sequels It's a movie Not everything needs to make sense Just enjoy the spectacle

4:40 "Arm phasers fire everything we got" If that wormhole delivers the Nardia to somewhere, it'll be in pieces Personally I like to think that the blast we saw at the end of Picard S02 is the other end of this wormhole. The explosive energy along with the core explosion sucked into a wormhole will look like a concentrated beam.

Last time the wormhole sucked them in this time it’s at the center of their ship ripping them apart so if the parts are sent though it’s highly compromised and would kill everyone on board

a part of Kirk was hoping Nero wouldn't sue for peace just so he can get vengeance for the man who killed his father and ruined his life.

This is before TOS, what did you expect?

Movie logic, you make ships lighter and faster by throwing stuff out of the back even if it's stuff that powers the ship.

@@DavidLee-vi8ds And in the vacuum of space.

Probably redundancy. Who knows how many are on the ship, but tossing them out as bombs may work if they are explosive. Still not the best writing.

@@Zeigy Well explosions can push things in the vacuum of space, but not as effective as through a medium such as air.

I thought it was old McCoy who said "treat her like a lady and she'll take you home."

@@SantomPhHave you seen the last episode of Season 3 of Picard? Same thing no matter what the Enterprise. Because, after all, they all took their name from *THIS* one.

yeh no this enterprise varient is insane, the Kelvin Timeline apparently had tech catapulted ahead due to the temporal incursion, plus militarised the Federation vessels in a manner which led to a doctrine of them being larger (but the USS. Kelvin was already a big ass ship for its time but i think thats just an inconsistency)

The idea is that since this is an alternate timeline, Starfleet is a lot more militarized than in the TOS timeline, hence the much larger and more heavily armed ships.

Yeah the Kelvin timeline (named after the starfleet ship that appeared at the start of the film)

@@thetenthplanet_ I’m not a huge Trekky, is the Kelvin timeline really part of Star Trek canon? Cause I actually though this whole alternate timeline was just recently pulled out of someone’s ass.

@@lnpipeline3306 Basically the 09 movie created an alternate timline to give Abrams and Paramount free rain to do whatever they wanted with the original series characters without messing up established canon. So the main universe (or the Prime Timeline) still exists where the original series, Next Generation, Deep Space 9, and so forth all take place there. Then the Kelvin Timline is just for the reboot movies. So anything that happens in those movies is only canon to that universe and not the main one.

Yes. JJ Abrams lazy effort at Star Trek.

@@Pahoe77 That guy and his friends are talentless hacks when it comes to film making.

your spelling is attrocious. That 'scene'. Time would be dilated.

@@lazaruslazuli6130 I'm a science nerd not an english' major and after a hard day working the construction site I don't care too much about spelling/grammar. You'd think someone like me would have more than a blue collar job and I tried getting a white collar job but I'm also really shy and the white collar bosses thought because I don't talk much I must be stupid. The funny thing is I can understand obscure science articles that would confound those white collar bosses.

fun fact; Romulan warp cores use singularities instead of antimatter

​@@among-us-99999Yeah.

Because this movie was written by children

hear hear !