The chamber has been known for many years but Zahi Hawass tried to censor it and largely succeeded, he was/is corrupt and unscientific.

Duh it was eventually gonna happen stupid lol

good Lord, finite elements... I'm taken back to my college engineering analysis class

Agreed 100%.

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I dispute that

Na Bolivians pumapunku is absolutely ridiculous

@@russianbot8423 LMAO 🤣

Hahaha I love that. It’s so true

@@bittasweetsymphony726 Uh, ...OK.

"pile of rock" -- if it was just a pile of rock it wouldn't be interesting at all. It's the largest structure ever built on earth, and to this day nobody knows when it was built, by whom, and for what purpose. One thing we do know is that it was certainly NOT a tomb built for the Pharoah Khufu.

@@TheManWithNoName686 With humor dear friend, always with a little bit of humor. It's called "tongue in cheek" humor.

The "weirdly shaped stone" is probably only weirdly shaped because it was never intended to be visible. More likely this entire exposed section was the entrance to a shrine for offerings at a time when the GP was still a stepped pyramid before the exterior was filled in/leveld out to become the true pyramid it is today. Therefore the "weirdly shaped stone" likely just part of assorted quarry rubble backfill, and the 'void' behind this is more likely a density differential caused by uneven backfill rather than a true void or open space. Non intrusive doesn't mean what you think it means though. Intrusive = an intrusion, it doesn't imply destructive or non destructive means. A burglary is intrusive, that doesn't mean that a skilled burglar cannot get in without causing damage.

If they do, we will never see it..

@@ddevil4980 why? We saw them drilling Gantenbrink's door, why not this one?

you,& this guy,are so missinformed,or just recite mainstream bs.. if the truth came out about why & who,,built the original pyramids,, world wide,, religion,egypt history, gov,s would fail.. history is a farce.. to protect our real history.. we are mushrooms,,kept in the dark & fed sht..

oh yeh,,plus,, destruction of the pyramids,, there allready destroyed from what they were, does it matter..

That wouldn't be too far from the truth, when exploring one of the shafts from the queens chamber the found a ticket that was from the 60s I beleive if I'm correct. It shouldnt have been there at all, they also found a chipped out area close to the ticket, making people beleive thebshaft has been accessed atleast once before the robot explorations

Be an old Nokia - down to 6% battery by now

Voids do not relieve weight at all. The chevron stones exist for that purpose, but they only divert weight, which is why they need to be thicker and larger. It's not even certain that it is a voide at all - the muon scan only reveals a density differential to the surrounding stone work. This could be explained by uneven back filled rubble, sand and mortar used to fill in a space as his been found in other 'voids' within the pyramid.

It is a disgrace that the Egyptian authorities will not let scientist explore the undiscovered Chambers, it is a crime against archaeology.

@@philb8566 LOL. Such an underrated comment, yet so true as well lol

You think aliens had that on there mind could be right. Wait till they find ufo out of petrol up top

Ill call the boys and well get right on it

Basically we can’t because we don’t really know what’s inside there other than what has been mapped. There could be hundreds of caverns we don’t know about. We don’t know what we don’t know and the Egyptian govt isn’t going to let us look for decades at least

The notched timpanum could only have been made before the outer chevron layers were added. So they couldn't have possible been used for the removal of the outer layers for exploration. But the notches do look too imprecise to have been made by the original builders tho...

The descriptive terminology of construction has really helped in this issue. The presentation and narrative commendable. I am left to consider the collaboration of natural products with that of the distribution to the force of wieght and proportion in these reveals. A mechanical Engineering feat the knowledge of which for myself and the uninitiated is yet to be discovered.

@@locryStudios I think he means that what you think is an architectectural design is actually damage to a normal lime stone block in an attempt to find the entrance

@@locryStudios A simple notched block sat atop and between the extant notched blocks would be able to be managed to allow or prevent rope movement/slippage, and would be the first aspect to be removed forevermore.

@@locryStudios What do you mean? Look at the outer chevron blocks and you’ll see the lower surfaces of the two blocks don’t even join up. Also look at almost every structural ( non veneer) block. There’s gaps all over the place.

Actually, no. It was built in the last nova cycle, 15000+ year's.. They lacked for nothing

@@richardscathouse Sorry, but I have no idea what you are talking about. Are you sure it was my comment you meant this response for?

@@the-trustees Conspiracy nut. Don't worry about them.

lol what he is saying, is that they had the technology needed as they were built before the younger dryas. plus you don't need calculus or a computer.

@@everythinghate666 Nobody ever said they NEEDED calculus or a computer. That they had neither makes the accomplishment that much greater. Toi bad the ones who built these structures never tried to convince their rulers that god(s) were unnecessary... or maybe we'd now be a species that doesn't deserve extinction.

Thanks, I appreciate your encouragement!

I welcome anyone to give their opinion, so long as its reasonably on-topic and not just pointless flaming. I'm trying to push the analysis forward with reasonable caution. It's a delicate balance of keeping things interesting, citing evidence, and questioning assumptions.

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That was more or less the impression I had. If the shaft was built for access to get items easily into the pyramid during construction, once they have finished using the passage they would have blocked off the entrance. Then laid the slanted stones as a brace, that way when they build the structure of the pyramid over the top of the entrance, it would load up the sloped roof and they were worried this might cause a slip.

Yes, or visit Italy to see great art, only to be constantly concerned about pickpockets and vendors trying to jack up prices by 1000% for tourists.

Business is business! Camel ride, anyone? These locals all have several wives and many children to support.

At least they are not handing out hammers so you can bust off- a piece and then charging you for the peace you broke off

Indeed! Even the so-called "guardians" of the sites are just trying to bleed off as much money off you as they can. It takes a very high degree of level-headedness to manage them politely. I found that the at less visited sites - e.g. at Dahshur, Meidum and middle kingdom pyramids, they are less interested at ripping you off and more about really showing you around. If only Egypt could deal with that, they would get even more tourists and money!

No need for the casual racism against the locals, folks.

I've been under the same impression

The great pyramid is a structure within a structure, it's a technology or device and a living record all in one.

@@mindlightwave aliens man

I think the pyramids that are perfect were built by another civilization, then the Egyptians discovered them, and then built the bent pyramid along with the other sorry excuse. The shitty built pyramids are just the result of someone who just looked and thought they could then construct something just like it. They couldn't.

@@anopoabednego6173 It's possible however one feature often found inside the pyramids is the corbel arch a.k.a. false arch. It's a more primitive version of the true arch, something that one would expect to find in such case. However we should be open to the possibility that these structures were simply discovered and repurposed. Same case with the Serapeum of Saqqara. The so-called "sarcophagi" were found empty (even the unopened ones) and the mainstream theory is not convincing.

I guess some people (like Hawass) don't want all the answers at once, they need to write 10 more books, 100 more articles in Nature, so they slow down the progress as much as they can.

even in this video, he says they have to drill dude. Proposals and bureaucracy takes time, that is the way the world works, and many things are not simple even if a reasonable individual without knowledge of details think otherwise.

@@ardmate This video is a year old. Most recent reports say that the camera was fed in whiteout having to drill.

@@glenn_r_frank_author yeah but it doesnt change the fact that this is what was thought of, before it happened. Maybe it happened now because they realized this was the case, otherwise it could have taken even longer, I don't know the details but it is a possibility. It is like u get a prognosis of cancer and after a month of careful debate u decide to undergo chemo only to be told that u were misdiagnosed. No one can say why u bothered thinking over this for a month when u didn't even have cancer. This is not the same situation of course, but all I am saying is bureaucracy and proposals all take time even for the simplest things and it was not "just get an endoscopic camera and check." I am not saying it should be that way, of course not, but unfortunately it is not hard to see it happening that way for many valid or nonvalid reasons.

Because Egyptians have to cover up any proof they didn't build them. Lots of corruption.

so,your saying, people sat around for thopusands of yrs to work out precession.. i think not.. all that knowledge was given to them by beings that are for alder than humans. WORLD WIDE. work that out maths genius. plus,, its mathematically impossible, for the moon to be there.. something for your brain to look into.." times before the moon"..

​@@harrywalker968 Actually, that's not what I'm saying at all. But first, if you go back and reread what I've written, you'll notice, nowhere in any of that do I suggest that the Cheops pyramid was built by humans. Given all the data provided in Tompkin's work, I'm led to believe that either a race of humans existed over ten thousand years ago that was far more advanced than we humans are today with the only remaining example (not counting the moon), of their having been here and has survived the ages is the Cheops pyramid, or, it was built by "someone" else. I'm betting on that last one. One of the facts that Tompkins brought to light was that, when looked at in terms of latitude and longitude, it becomes apparent that the Great pyramid was located on the one spot on Earth where those two lines traverse the largest amount of land. Think of that, the one place, on land, on the entire planet where the longitude and latitude lines cover more land than at any other point. The conclusion was that, the only way to have gotten that information was from looking at the Earth..... from above. But there is far more information from Tompkins book and if someone would really like to marvel at the immense confluence of unexplained facts surrounding the Great Pyramid, I don't know of any other work that provides more researched information. And while I'm no genius mathematically, I understand enough to understand the conclusions Tompkins and other mathematicians he cited have come to when addressing the many mathematical concepts incorporated into that structure. Personally, I believe that an alien race placed that huge monument where they did to make the statement, "Someone other than you was here," that would last long enough that even the slowly evolving race of humans on the planet would, at some point develop enough to recognize the puzzle presented to us and decode enough of it to appreciate that fact and perhaps grow a bit as well.

@@harrywalker968 ...There must be a more intelligent race. Just look at your attempt to sound smart. Take a good look at it. Oh, wait, you were trying to sound like a dickhead. You were successful. No wonder you have no faith that humans developed knowledge outside of their Earthbound existence.

Will Hirsch - pleased to know some one else appreciates Peter Tompkins book. It got me hooked on pyraminds soon after it came out.

How are you supposed to measure ANY edge of the great Pyramid, to even the nearest INCH, nevermind multiple decimal places? The outer stones are all gone, and nobody knows exactly where any of the edges were

Yeah maybe it was a training area for apprentices to learn the techniques. Or a highly visible decoy entrance (during build) to distract enemy spies/future looters.

I think most of the ancient structures around the world were already there and just reclaimed or renovated by whoever found them.

There is clear evidence of the various cultures that coalesced in the Nile Valley well before any Egyptian kingdom was established, but no evidence that anyone was building such structures before the 3rd dynasty.

Bingo. Lost Ancient civs built them. Long before Egyptians arrived.

@@natalielambert4378 Carbon dating don't real I guess

Yes... I hope we're getting close to this.

Why is Egypt so opposed to such explorations? It feel like they are intentionally holding discoveries back.

@@jeffjorczak I suspect it may be that Hawass doesn't want anyone else to get the glory of finding anything.

70% of the giza pyramid annual visitors believe in alternative theories. It's economically wise to keep the truth mysterious.

Yes, there is an alternate purpose as to why they wont allow the mystery. It's called Tourism and the fact that almost any other thing in that area is not enough to draw tourists. You can see this in the fact that with enough money and the right guide, you can get yo nearly anything and buy nearly anything from those who are in the know. Any thing that diminishes that "mystery" or threatens the UNESCO status, they are not going to risk. Money talks where peoples walk!

@@Chamonix.frequently I thought so ! 👍

Todays egyptian council of antiquities is extremely conservative regarding any such archeological measures. There are historic reasons for this as over the decades, countless artifacts and ancient monuments have been damaged/destroyed by domestic tomb raiders and especially foreign "treasure hunters" from Europe and the USA calling themselves archeologists during the early 20th century. Money easily convinced the corrupt egyptian government and authorities back then to let them drill and blast their way into graves and pyramids whenever they had a hunch it may lead to a mummy or treasure. This sad chapter of Egypts history left painful marks and shall never repeat itself. So even today, especially when you're an non-egyptian archeologist, you have to come up with some real solid evidence to get the permission to drill a hole into something, especially at such publicly visible spot. Much more evidence for a truly meaningful scientific discovery is required here that justifies such an invasive measure. And a highly unrealiable and unprecise muon scan combined with some equally sketchy assumptions plus the high likeliness that its just tiny empty space filled with construction rubble.... just doesn't cut it.

Book of Enoch talks of the great pyramid as an alter ,and a library to house all the writings of God . The way he explains it' s building makes more sense then some of the stories made up to explain it as a King ordered it built to be buried in..... It would take men decades or more to build .No politician then or today would have something built they could never see! All the kings where buried in a area away from the pyramids in a valley of tombs cut into the rock. .

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@@natalielambert4378 THANK YOU!!!!! 🙏.

@@caseyalexander1705 No worries. I just saw one of his drone videos of Karahan Tepe. Good stuff.

Could it be this one: instagram.com/p/CVANwG4gCB8/ Queen's Neferheteps Pyramid, south of Userkaf's, Saqqara

@@st.armanini9521 Thank you. I think that is the one!

A lot easier to buy the guards off. It wouldnt even cost your millions.

I like Matt from Ancient Architects a lot, and he has many interesting ideas. I think if the Great Pyramid was expanded in size we would see evidence in the descending corridor masonry - the same way you can see it very obviously in the Bent and Medium pyramid corridors. There's also Vyse's southern face excavation which doesn't show signs of expansion either. It could be that the outer casing layer was last to be installed, but I don't think that would effect the Entrance Vault. The Queen's shaft's ending in Tura is very interesting, but it's a very big leap to assume there's an entire casing layer at that level without additional evidence. It would also be extremely complicated to install the Entrance Vault as a final step, because the infrastructure for bringing in enormous chevrons would no longer be present.

@History for GRANITE Well, I'm probably not doing Matt much justice here. But he does note more anomalies in the Queen's Chamber southern shaft as well as both King's Chamber shafts. He also mentions not able to find pictures and detailed measurements for the Queen's Chamber northern shaft or descending passage to confirm anything there, needed for any real confirmation. I don't think he is suggesting that there is another hidden layer of casing stones. Rather that the originals were stripped back and/or never completed. This wouldn't have happened for the ends of the Queen's Chamber shafts though, due to the shape of the blocks and difficulty extracting them. The distance from the end of the Queen's Chamber shafts to the outside of the pyramid is around 14m, I don't think Vyse got that deep! Also the infrastructure for an extension proposed is Houdin's interior ramp, which for the chevrons could just have been on the exterior initially. The Great Pyramid shows evolution over Medium and the Bent Pyramid, so I wouldn't be surprised if there was only very subtle evidence in the descending passage. What Matt points to in the King's Chamber shafts suggests attempts at a cleaner join than what is seen at the Bent Pyramid. Thinking about it now, perhaps the real reason for the chevrons is to reduce stresses on the extended part of the descending passage and avoid a step appearing due to subsidence. Also, if there is another entrance there, the two passages would come closer than originally intended which may also have been viewed as a weak point.

I see ,where you are going with the extension of the internal chamber's, and am very familiar with matt's masterfully imaginative geological/architectural work over the year's(will look for that show)my favourites of his were silsbury hill being a natural mud spring,and the stone henge stones being local erratic's.i wondered about the piramid's 'tapping natural spring's'and the 1000 ton stature of' sorry'megnon'not being transported on reeds/copper tubes via an aqua duct across the vast desert,but could possibly be natural local erratic's that were transported by geological processes.i am personally interested in astro archaeology in relation to megaliths marking points in time.i am very intrigued by how the predeluvian humans measured the size of the day in minutes,and the approximate size of the earth.in relation to egypt I am extremely interested in how the mathematics encoded in the piramids in relation to the size of minute's and the size of the earth as established with water clock's in Egypt,and maybe gigantic pendulums that could mark exact duration of the transit of venus in exact measurements of seconds and arc seconds.apparently the greeks "didn't" know the transit of venus in exact seconds and size and shape of the planet,and distances in space,but the piramid builders and possibly Indian builders did know

There are a lot of anomalies in the shafts, and the vertical joint in one of them is interesting but the shafts have no 'standard' design. For me, it's more interesting that the King's northern shaft has an unfinished cutting that blocks almost half of the open space! My core issue with the Entrance Vault chevrons is that they violate every design rule for them to be a protective measure. The 100% over-designed protection are the outer lintels of the descending corridor... protecting the corridor from the chevrons. It's often very hard to guess how the builders evaluated the strength of any given design, but you can compare the lintels of every other pyramid entrance corridor to see that they are anomalously large at the Great Pyramid.

Sorry just my interests,but I think the story is that the "kings"stones were broken in 50 AD by a lightning strike(I'm guessing roman times partly)and those stones might have freely vibrated emitting a constant tone,maybe moisture internally,from the extinct piramid ground water well/spring ionised the high chamber 50 tonner's,that vibrated somehow in sympathy having a certain amount of wetness and "freeness" as 50 tonne granite slab's,like a xylophone stacked up.what may I ask your superb architectural stone expertise is your opinion about this historically structural aspect of the so called relieving ceiling slabs of the "Kings chamber"being actually not structural but freely vibrating?.in accordance with an ancient myth that the piramid emitted a constant tone(100 decibel sound) across the deserts until the piramid was struck by lightning(or vandals)in 50AD. maybe this was activated by water and the sun creeping around the degrees of four surfaces of the piramid.for any stone age machine/due pond to work there needs to be some kind of internal differential between cold night air/water upon the positively charged/earthed structural stone's surface area's.its this electrical difference of a positively charged 'structural stones surface area,being exposed to the negatively charged night air or water or both that generates the transfer of water to the stones free to vibrate surface area that charged from the day's heat in the greatest ever stone pile,or conversely the hot arid air vibrates a dry ,freely vibrating slabs in the day after dowsing maybe,which could concentrate electrical charge at the apex(fire or light)and or a constant sound.which ever way,Siemens measured the static from the now defunct apex of the in the 1800s,and anything ,effect or machine beyond that requires the qualities of the stone's chemical/mineralogical electric/accoustic's,hot and cold internally and externally,and air and water(possibly batteries)

Your kind words are the best type of gift. I love sharing my research with those who can appreciate it.

@@HistoryforGRANITE appreciated it is!