Just hope they don't make Memnon a African Nubian character. This video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie.

Unfortunately it's propaganda misleading people in believing a lie.

​@O.K. so, you've squeezed 1 out, now pinch it off ! As always, ignorance stumps intelligence!

It just does my heart so proud when I hear another who is obviously well read and knows facts that many have overlooked. Be well friend.

​@O.K. so, you've squeezed 1 out, now pinch it off ! If you have doubts I find it best to do your own research because a doubtful mind only believes his own work, unless you're just to lazy to do it yourself.

​@@kevintownsend3840 Wise counsel. Truly, a doubtful mind believes its own research. I cannot otherwise imagine why pale-skinned people would be called 'burnt face'.

Africa is one. Look up Nilotic people. They are the native people of the Nile.

This is some Disney crap 😂

Yes, and they had build Suez Canal already before the Troyan war

Most people hear of the trojan war from the Iliad. The Iliad only tells the story from the ninth year of the war with Agamemnon having angered Apollo causing Apollo to fire arrows at the Greeks day and night. The Iliad then ends with Hector's death. I have a book called " gods and heroes of ancient Greece " that tells the story from the very beginning. Even tells of Agamemnon sacrificing his daughter to ensure a safe voyage or victory. ( My memory is a little hazy ). In the first battle when the Greeks reach troy, they fight on the beach and Achilles faces a demigod son of Poseidon who has skin as hard as iron. Achilles can't penetrate the man's skin so when they clash a final time Achilles gets the other demigod on his back and plants his knees on the guy's throat suffocating him. The book also goes beyond Hector's death and funeral and tells about the Amazonian reinforcements that arrive and are defeated, Then Memon and his Ethiopian reinforcements that show up and are also eventually defeated. Memnon kills a son of old king Nestor, Nestor sees it happen and approaches Memnon to avenge his son. Memnon explains that from a distance he thought Nestor was a younger man, and he won't fight the old man, so Achilles and Memnon fight in the most epic battle in the story. After that the Greeks sack Troy. If I remember correctly Achilles son throws Hector's baby off the wall of the city. But my buddy told me his college professor had a version where the baby was given the Drusilla treatment before being thrown from the wall. The book also tells about Agamemnon being killed in the bath when he returned home and also tells about Agamemnon's son, if I remember correctly, killing Achilles son in a duel claiming Hector's wife for himself. Agamemnon's son also avenged his father's murder. ( This may have been two different characters, possibly two different sons, as I said my memory is a little hazy ) The Iliad is great, but to get the full story of the trojan war you have to read other sources. The movie TROY is also mostly based on the iliad which is why there is no mention of the Amazons or Ethiopians.

@@jjwashington3872 what's Disney crap ? Hector vs Achilles or Hector vs Memnon ?

@@slthjawa5062 all of it. Its fairytale disney crap. Folks arguing on here like it's real events. 🤦🏾‍♂️

Cleopatra was of Greek ancestry Ptolemaic….

@@shanepope1000 yes we know, what is the point of your post?

Cleopatra was Black.

@@MrAmhara No she wasn’t. She wasn’t even technically Egyptian. She was a Greek in Macedonian heritage. Every single depiction of her from the past depicts a woman who is clearly not black. People need to stop hijacking other peoples cultures! Have some freaking pride in your own!

@@MrAmhara Neither one of them were black.

Unfortunately the depiction of him is wrong.

See this is exactly what I was talking about. This video makes mistakes and you don't care because it fits your narratives. Your own personal agenda. Proving me right once AGAIN. How arrogant you are. How you know nothing about Memnon. Just taking whatever you like to get what you want to fit your beliefs in your own fantasy world. No respect for the story. Shame on you.

It’s no mystery why Memnon wasn’t featured in the movie Troy.

@@bobbylee_ exactly many Hero's were not in the movie. It doesn't mean for a specific reason.

@@bobbylee_ one thing is for sure. Memnon is NOT a African Aethiopis warrior.

I have a game that when i find a games developer , you can fight as many many great warriors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Agree

Should have happened in Troy

Great choice and better actor what you think about micheal jai white

​@@jase3776Michael Jai white would be perfect as Memnon

I HEARD EBA WAS A QUEER, NOT A GOOD CHOICE TO PLAY AN ACTUAL MAN

Unfortunately this video is misleading. Memnon is NOT a African Nubian character. The kingdom of Aethiopia and Memnon have nothing to do with Africa.

@@EudaimonV I don't actually know just enjoying the video

@@watsonhilson4929 Ok nice that you want to learn. I'm just trying to help you. Unfortunately Afrocentric, mostly Afro-Americans are trying to claim Hellenic culture as there own. Spreading propaganda, Creating confusion and hatred. It's Unethical.

its all been white washed and stolen

No Mennon was cheated Memnon could’ve been just as much of a warrior as Achilles from what’s told

​@@jonathangillum7550 Achilles won fair and square.

@@jonathangillum7550Achilles is the one punch man of mythology.

@@gokulrenjith2738 How can Achilles win fair and square when he said the Gods tipped the scale in Achilles favor?

@@seanwilliams8311 Because in the actual texts, there is no mention of gods interfering.

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Well this video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie. Memnon is NOT described being a African Nubian character in Hellenic mythology.

If they ever make a exact representation of the Trojan Cycles. They should be played by Mediterranean olived skin people. Not African Nubian actor's

Brad Pitt played a black character because he was white

🤣🤣🤣

The writer is describing black men’s feature and they had long hair which were locks.

Well he is NOT African that's for sure.

@@EudaimonVwhy do these African Americans try to claim everything? Makes no sense they should be proud to be African American, Africans don’t even do this type of shit they just claim their own respected country

You wish.

Exactly. Memnon is NOT described being a African hero in Hellenic mythology. Memnon has nothing to do with African culture. He does NOT exist in African history mythology or culture.

Your comment doesn't matter. Rather, it reflects what history has become: hostage to racialist ideologies. Some historians who dare to come out of the myth place this probable war in the 14th century BC. And MEMNON would be 2 historical characters of this time: we suspect the king of SUZE on one side and on the other he would be the pharaoh AMENOTEP III who is the character who had conquered as far as Anatolia and could have brought military support to the Trojans?

Just African Butthead 😮

@@marcossealey8612 u seem like a butthead kinda person

@@fivecinco5923 This is a great point and shows how ancient Egypt was compared with Greece. The Illiad is thought to date about 762 BCE. Amenhotep III reigned in the 14th century BCE==1350 BCE. Hundreds of years earlier and so could be the basis of the myth of Memnon at Troy. The Colossi of Memnon at Luxor that the Greeks and Romans identified with the mythological Memnon were actually statues of Amenhotep III. The Colossi are 3,400 years old. Unrelated but fun historical fact--Amenhotep III was the grandfather of King TUT. Amenhotep III and his queen Tiye are pictured with AFRO hairdos in tomb paintings and Tiye has a famous statue in the Berlin museum with an Afro and a golden crown.

@@user-by2dk9ns8s Exactly The Colossi of Memnon at Luxor that the Greeks and Romans identified with the mythological Memnon were actually statues of Amenhotep III

the myths state that the gods took sides. Some favored Troy and some favored the Greeks. Zeus, the king of the gods, particularly favored the Greeks and Achilles because of Zeus' friendship with Achilles' mother Thetis. The only reason Zeus did not marry Thetis was that it was foretold that her son would be greater than his father. Zeus wanted the beautiful Thetis but feared a son who might overthrow him so gave her to a Greek king. Time and again, Thetis would come and ask Zeus and the other gods to help her son and the Greeks in the war. As to them mourning Memnon, the gods close to Eos and that favored Troy would mourn him.

Impossible. 😢

Always!

You can show respect to an enemy for skill and courage while still acting against the enemy.

@@amariah1980 True, but when your the God's and you pick a SIDE what's their to mourn🤔😅

The Gods also tipped the battle for Achilles when he fought Hector too. Returning his spear to him while distracting Hector. I always felt Achilles was overrated.

@@tommosley2844 Well, at the time it meant he had divine favors and it was a honor to receive actual aid from the gods. Of course, now today we think differently.

It would be more correct to say that some gods mourned Memnon, Eos and the ones either close to her or who favored the Trojans. Beside, you can still regret the death of a great champion even if he was your ennemy. Warriors live to fight and to die with honor, that's the way of things or rather was.

@@efaristi9737 In reality we know there were no Gods on the battlefield. So when Homer refers to the goddess Athena coming to Achilles aid he really means one of the Mermidons distracted Hector giving Achilles the advantage.

@@tommosley2844 We knows?

That was Agamemnon based on a totally different warrior of Greek legend, similar name tho so easy to mix up ✌️

Yeah classic movie with the rock. I was in hs when the movie came out. That was the rocks debut in movies.

Well not exactly, he is NOT a African Nubian character in Hellenic mythology. The kingdom of Aethiopia in the Trojan war from Hellenic Mythology has nothing to do with the country we know today as Ethiopia. The mythical kingdom of Aethiopia doesn't exist in African history mythology or culture.

the Greeks often praised Africa qnd Africans. traveled there many times. much of hheir inventions and archs bome from African. even their gods were said to be African based. they have a healthy obsession with the woolly hair burnt skinned ppl.

@@BRONZEMOZART3 Not they don't. There is no obsession with the Afro Man. The Olympian God's have nothing to do with the African God's. And none of the Hellenic inventions and arch's come from Africa. Give me one. Give me one African philosopher from that time. I don't want what you want to believe. Provide evidence facts source to your fantasy claim.

@@BRONZEMOZART3 Stop spreading propaganda and misleading people in believing a lie. Respect Hellenic culture. And respect each civilization cultures.

@@BRONZEMOZART3 Memnon has nothing to do with Africa. He does NOT exist in African history mythology or culture. This video is fake and Propaganda.

Just I hope they don't make him a African character as well like they did with Achilles.

@blaiseangel5698 dafuq movie are you talking about?

@@kailani112 I'm just saying. I hope they don't do what Netflix did in it's siries Troy fall of a city. It's a show and half of the characters like Zeus Achilles Aeneas Nestor etc are played by African actors. I hope if they make a new movie they don't make Memnon African as well like Netflix tends to Blackwash characters.

@blaiseangel5698 wait but this king is Ethiopian. What are they supposed to cast, an Asian? 🤣

@@kailani112 No Memnon has nothing to do with Africa or the country we know today as Ethiopia. The kingdom of Aethiopia doesn't exist in African history mythology or culture. The kingdom of Aethiopia only exists in Hellenic mythology and is located in the east where the sun is closer to the land when it rises. It was Herodotus in the 5th century BCE who would change the location of Aethiopia in his travels to Egypt when he came in contact with Nubian Egyptians who had a darker skin complexion. The kingdom of Aethiopia in Hellenic mythology is in the East. The land of Aethiopia is South of Egypt and Libya. African people never referred to themselves as Aethiopians. Aethiopis is a Hellenic word used ONLY by Hellens. Memnon is NOT described being a African Nubian character in Hellenic mythology. Memnon does NOT exist in African history mythology or culture. Understand now?

What are you talking about??

You do know this is MYTHOLOGY don't you? Your comment reminds of the reason why Europeans collected the pingas of Black men, keeping them in jars in museums 😮Be happy with yourself and what you have and stop low-key Hating on Black people because of your own feelings of inadequacy, it's embarrassing 😮A Racist micro aggression makes YOU look bad not us🙄

Wouldn't you😂

Achilles fought the Queen? I need to hear more about that

I doubt that but hey if you believe this then ok ;-)

@@menotyou816amazon queen to be exact. They were allied with the Trojans at that time

@@creyzi4j that's even cooler!

Hector killed ajax and hector humiliated the Greeks in the war it's been said hector was so tired from the war that's why acchiles won over him because Achilles was not involved in the war when Trojans slaughtered the Greeks . Hector fought all day was tired when Achilles called him for a fight but at least hector brother Paris finished Achilles

Unfortunately this video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie.

In the Trojan Cycles there is also Memnon. But this video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie. Memnon is NOT described being a African Nubian character in Hellenic mythology. His parents are Tithonus a prince of Troy brother to Priam king of Troy and Eos a Titaness in the Hellenic pantheon who LEFT Troy and TRAVELED to the land of the Aethiopis people in the far East. The kingdom of Aethiopia in Hellenic mythology has nothing to do with the country we know today as Ethiopia.

Exactly. Plus he has nothing to do with Africa. He is NOT described being a African warrior.

@@EudaimonVactually he is depicted as Nubian in appearance and even carries an African shield on a Greek vase dated to 500s bc.

@@imlaughinq7445 Nope. The one you mean is holding a bow and arrow the one we see on Wikipedia. That's not Memnon himself, that's a foreign warrior between the two Trojan soldiers describing his army getting ready to march for Troy.

@@EudaimonV we must not be talking about the same one cause there is no bowl in the picture I’m referring to.

@@imlaughinq7445Give me the one your talking about. The only one amphora related to Memnon showing a foreign warrior is the one we see first on the wiki page. But that is not Memnon himself.

Only in myth😜!! It’s a story written by Greeks after all, not Ethiopians (though he may not have been fro the actual country of Ethiopia). A interesting story, nonetheless.

The Turks are😂 the conqueror of Greek

​@@MujahidClick2000 Brits destroyed turks without even trying. You none white people try really hard to be as good as us white people.

@@MujahidClick2000 Tell that to Alexander the Great!!! LOL After Alexander the Great abolished Turkey, you will find most turkish people have greek ancestors because of the greek Invaders stealing the original Turkish females!! moden day turkish people are greek!!!! LOL

@@BTL_LTW Parts of Persia are still named after Alexander the great! LOL Absolutely no evidence of Ethiopians impacting the world in conquests of war. LOL

The thing is that this video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie. It's fake.

Unfortunately it's spreading propaganda and misleading people in believing a lie. Showing fake pictures. Twisting Memnon's heritage.

We still have a huge part of his story. One thing is for sure Memnon is NOT a African black hero. Plus this video makes many mistakes telling his story.

Ethiopia was basically all of Great Lakes, central, and west Afrika above The Coast of Guinea and below Libya

They meant Nubia. Or modern day Sudan.

You are an ignoramus... Illiad depicts memnon the aethiop ...

Axum was founded by South Arabian colonists. Later on mixed with locals and created the Habesha people. Absolutely nothing to do with this story.

@@lucasbrown743 south arabian? You are a buffoon my dear

Different man. Memnon was likely from Susa.

@hmurchison8123 that is modern day Iran, so still means he isn't from Ethiopia.

No not exactly. The mythical kingdom of Aethiopia in the Trojan war in Hellenic mythology, has nothing to do with the country we know today as Ethiopia in Africa. Memnon is NOT described being a African Nubian character in Hellenic mythology.

@@EudaimonV Are you suggesting that we are being deceived by the video, and do you have any evidence? We do know that there was a lot of trade that may have happened, and trade was a big part of what made Troy. In the Bible, God has a maessage for various nations, to include Ethopia in Isaiah 18-22. There are various other references to black Africans like Miriam and Aaron approaching Moses about his Cushite wife. It wasn't that she was a Cushite, more so, about being a foreigner. (Numbers 12:1) It is clear from Biblical accounts that Ethiopia, or "The Nation south of Egypt" was part of the Ancient World. What is shown in the video doesn't hurt my perceptions.

Just hope they don't make him a African Nubian character like this video or like Netflix did with Cleopatra Achilles Zeus etc.

This video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie.

Because Memnon does NOT exist in African history mythology or culture. This video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie. Memnon is a Hellenic hero from Hellenic Mythology. Nothing to do with Africa.

If you Ethiopians knew how great of a nation your from, it Will suprise you, the Ethiopians has father many along the Nile and the middle east the Mediterranean and Asia. The bible describes Ethiopia cush son of ham. Nimrod the first king of Babylon was of that same stock, many of the kings and peoples in the middle east were of African blood line as well those in the bible!! The very first dinasty of Egypt was to. Joseph wife just name a few was of cushite roots.long live Ethiopia ❤

Some blacks have blonde hair and blue eyes. My grandmother was the color tone of Sidney Poitier and her eyes were blue. So why Craig?

Your grandmother had Caucasian in her.

​​@@dgtv71 Blue eyes are an African trait. Nigerians with NO European admixture have Blue eyes. WE created HUMANITY. You come from us! The Black people of the Solomon islands have the Blondest hair on earth. We created everything humanity has. Your comment is pathetic

According to Myth Memnon wasnt Aethiopian. His father was a Trojan Prince and his Mother was the Godess Eos.

You basically mean ya'll will do what ya'll have always done? 😂

What? Achilles was always Greek from Thessaly, no idea where you got your information from?

He is not real. It's mythology. Emphasis on myth.

Well this video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie. Memnon has nothing to do with Africa. He does NOT exist in African history mythology or culture. He is a Hellenic Hero.

Eudaimon 4 days ago (edited) Why is Memnon a African character?? Memnon is NOT described being Aethiopis In Hellenic Mythology. His parents are Tithonus a prince of Troy brother to Priam king of Troy and Eos a Titaness in the Hellenic pantheon. He is related to Troy from his father side NOT from his mother side. His mother is a Titaness on mount Olympus. King Priam is his uncle NOT cosin. Why are you saying things that don't exist?? The kingdom of Aethiopia has nothing to do with the country of Ethiopia we know today. Memnon does not exist in African history mythology or culture. Do some research and respect Hellenic culture. Lol you people lie as easily as normal humans breathe, or as eagles take flight. Aethiopia LITERALLY means "burnt face" in the Greek; here is art from the 500 BC era depicting Memnon on a vase. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memnon#/media/File:The_Departure_of_Memnon_for_Troy._Greek,_circa_550-525_B.C..jpg Psalm 58:3 "The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies."

@@TomiAdewoleAdetom Nice try but art is free. First of all there is only ONE amphora related to Memnon showing an Aethiopis between two Trojans soldiers describing his army getting ready to march for Troy. ONLY ONE. Secondly an artistic personal approach to the character especially created hundreds of years later does not change the Mythology of a culture. You Afrocentric people need to educate Yourselves and learn some respect.

@@TomiAdewoleAdetom you Afrocentric people are Weak. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8b/Eos_Memnon_Louvre_G115.jpg/483px-Eos_Memnon_Louvre_G115.jpg Art is free. And artistic approach from the artist personal imagination is irrelevant to the Mythology of a culture.

@@TomiAdewoleAdetom Now you know. Glad I could help.

​@@TomiAdewoleAdetom did you find any proof evidence to your so call fantasy claim??

What is your point?? It's irrelevant. Memnon and the kingdom of Aethiopia have nothing to do with Africa or the country we know today as Ethiopia.

@@EudaimonV In Herodotus In his view, "Aethiopia" is all of the inhabited land found to the south of Egypt, beginning at Elephantine. He describes a capital at Meroë, adding that the only deities worshipped there were Zeus (Amun) and Dionysus (Osiris).

@@natenrey4601 Yes but that is irrelevant to Memnon and the kingdom of Aethiopia in Hellenic mythology. Homer locates The mythical kingdom of Aethiopia in the East where the sun is closer to the land. And Just like like you said. It was not until Herodotus hundreds of years later Who change the location of Aethiopia and called the lands South of Egypt and Libya because of his travels there in which he came in contact with Nubian Egyptians and Kushites. Memnon is NOT described being a African Nubian warrior or African king in Hellenic mythology. This video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie. Trying to push a certain political agenda.

​@@natenrey4601Now you know. Glad I could help.

This video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie. Eos is a Titaness in the Hellenic pantheon that is how she is related to Troy. This video is not saying the story correctly. His father is Tithonus a prince of Troy brother to Priam king of Troy and Eos a Titaness in the Hellenic pantheon who LEFT Troy and TRAVELED to the land of Aethiopia in the far East. Memnon was nothing to do with African history mythology or culture.

@@EudaimonV you're the one pushing a dumb agenda.. Memnon is an Ethiopian and his father was not a Greek... He was black like the ancient Trojan... The original Iliad has his depiction...

its the color of the pottery burned after many years. Thats why Greeks call it "erythromorfo" and "melanomorfo".

Well the movie with Brad Pitt was not a exact adaptation of the Trojan Cycles. The movie was more as a realistic approach to the story. But this video is also Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie. Memnon is NOT described being a African Nubian character in Hellenic mythology.

Memnon is NOT African history. This video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie. Educate yourself and have some respect for Hellenic culture.

And if you really want to learn about African history mythology or culture I suggest you do some research and learning about them. Instead of focusing on trying to claim Hellenic culture. Have some Dignity.

Now you know. Glad I could help.

Hope they don't blackwash him like Netflix did Achilles and Cleopatra.

These folks and their fairytales. He looked more like Starvin Marvin.😂😂

LMAO, YEAH JUST WHAT WE NEED MORE WHITE WASHING OF BLACK HISTORY

​​@@user-dt9mk1of9iWhat are you talking about..?? Memnon is NOT described being a African Nubian character in Hellenic mythology. Memnon does NOT exist in African history mythology or culture. He is a Hellenic hero. He should be played by a Mediterranean actor. Surly not African like Cleopatra or Achilles Zeus etc in the Netflix series.

Maybe not Mark Wahlberg. A Hellenic or Mediterranean actor would fit the role. Surely not a African actor.

lol, why? smh.

@@RasSosa Why. Who do you believe should play Memnon.?? Yes Mark Wahlberg is a little too American. To much of a stretch. But a Mediterranean olived skin actor would be perfect.

This is the exact example of Netflix. Soon they would also make Memnon a African Nubian character. It's ridiculous.

No you are confused. That was Agamemnon king of Mycenae. Memnon is another hero in the Trojan war.

There is no specific reason Why. Many Hero's are less known and left out in the movie.

Memnom was supposed to be black born from to white parents but that's afrocentric propaganda. He was a white Ethiopian and all white indians/Ethiopian the Trojans 😵‍💫

Because it is said the gods gave favor a nice way of trying to say Achilles wouldn't have won or didn't win its words to apply cheating

because the death of Achilles could've very likely ended up tipping the scale in the trojans favor, and the gods were determined to see troy fall, the trojans also had some gods on their sides, but most including Athena and Heira wanted to see the city fall, Achilles was a key factor in achieving victory so he received aid. doesn't mean they had a personal grudge against Memnon, and due to his achievements and the facts that he had divine origins, of course the gods were saddened by his death.

They use to trade with each other as well and they would move their goods by land and sea so it didn’t take that long maybe a couple months

@@Freddy-ih4xo actually, looking at the map of ancient Aethiopia, turns out they had access to the Mediterranean, east of Egypt.

45 days tops

You must be deluded as is the presenter of this fake narrative

He did not have the favour of the God's like you think he had. The fates decided that he would win.

@@EudaimonV the fates of men too are controlled by Gods, if you believe in that sort of thing. So technically he did receive help. Besides, many historical texts highlighted this aspect too, about the interference of the Gods

​@@siddharthtripathi1818I have a couple of reasons. Achilles' entire body, besides one heel, was invulnerable to physical damage. The god's who were on the Tojan's side knew Hector would lose his fight with Achilles in embarrassing fashion despite his skills at war, so they compelled him to try and run away and when that failed, they tried to heavily tip the battle in his favour. Achilles was given back his spear by one of the god's and nothing more. Memnon was able to hang with Achilles, because he was also a demi-god, however, there is no mention in the actual text of Achilles recieving help to defeat him. It says Memnon drew first blood, but Achilles won by stabbing him through the heart.

Nope, Zues just holds the scales he don't choose at all, the FATES DECIDE That stuff

What do you mean. Memnon exists in Hellenic mythology in the Epic Poems of the Trojan Cycles.

They didn't, that bit isn't in there. Achilles stabs him through the heart with his spear. The Greek pantheon was very torn over the war anyway and almost went to war themselves, fighting over trying to force their side to win.

The 2004 movie Troy was a re-imagine version of the mythical Trojan war not a precise copy of the epic poems. Many Hero's were left out not only Memnon. That doesn't mean anything. One thing is for sure Memnon is NOT a African Nubian character in Hellenic mythology. This video is Propaganda misleading people in believing a lie.

Yes, always found it odd that diomedes is a relatively unknown figure in the trojan war. Most people know Paris, helen, achilles, the 2 ajax, Hector etc, yet diomedes seems to fly under the radar of people that never read the illiad, even though he is involved in the major battles and fights well despite his youth. Certainly found him more interesting than achilles- "I'm going to sit around in a bad mood for most of the story because I don't like agamemnon".

there was no memnon on any movie

They did not. The fates decided. Achilles was the better warrior.