The EU - America Trade Deal: Why The TTIP Failed - TLDR News

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In 2010 negotiations started between the EU and US to develop what was dubbed the "biggest trade deal in history". However, eight years later the deal was scrapped and negotiations halted. In this video, we explain the ambitions of TTIP, why it failed and what it means for both sides now.
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@elguapo1507
@elguapo1507 3 жыл бұрын
It's ALWAYS right to turn down "deals" when they're not satisfactory. When did you ever agree to buy something you didn't want??
@rollosinternet1853
@rollosinternet1853 3 жыл бұрын
Brexit. BoJo has just recognised that "project fear" is his policy, by stopping telling lies and telling everybody to prepare to all the bad things so many idiots have brought on ourselves.
@reellezahl
@reellezahl 3 жыл бұрын
@Jon Coxon Jog on, Brexidiot. _You not looking at what's happening in our own country?_
@drscopeify
@drscopeify 3 жыл бұрын
100% if the deal is not good you don't sign. Not every deal with out.
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 3 жыл бұрын
Everything that was unacceptable in the TTIP will be in the UK USA trade deal, the only difference is the UK won't be in a position to simply walk away.
@alcarbo8613
@alcarbo8613 3 жыл бұрын
I bet you guys in the UK can’t wait to refrigerate yours eggs straight from Nebraska drink California champagne enjoy Florida Oranges Georgia Peaches Idaho Potatoes Texas Beef Iowa Corn Maine Lobster Washington Apples Virginia Tobacco Wisconsin Cheese Massachusetts Cranberries Kansas Wheat Vermont Maple Syrup Hawaii Pineapples and you’ll drive Michigan made Cars powered by Alaskan Oil Love from Your future American Colonizers!
@achubbs8641
@achubbs8641 3 жыл бұрын
Good luck Brits
@reverendroar
@reverendroar 3 жыл бұрын
That will be one of 2 million factors why the U.K. will be back in the EU post Boris... and I think Boris won’t be here for long but once shit hits the fan (just like Cameron)
@rag2031
@rag2031 3 жыл бұрын
Rory Blessington fingers crossed boris bottles it
@alcarbo8613
@alcarbo8613 3 жыл бұрын
Rory Blessington hahaha the UK is never coming back to the E.U no matter what happens next
@tsareric1921
@tsareric1921 3 жыл бұрын
The only way it could work is bringing US Standards up to EU levels but that just won't happen so this deal would be impossible.
@MaxiTB
@MaxiTB 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was the main reason why public pressure against it was so high. I would have weakend all quality standards here, protection laws would have been cancelled out and there would have been no benefits beside even more tax evasion by US companies. After companies did the math and figured out that it will lead to an one-sided US competition advantage, TTIP was finally dead here before the last presidential election.
@dyamineu5246
@dyamineu5246 3 жыл бұрын
@A Id Most of these EU standards are skirted by regional governments in EU nations, for example the german motor companies do not abide by the same standards as they should according to the EU, the French farming companies use "prohibited" fertilizers and pesticides in low quantities... and I could go on. These businesses often drive local economies and therefore are not prosecuted by local governments and often are not by the Central government. U.S. standards are often also given by the EPA, FCC, FDA, and other federal unelected agencies, the difference between the EU and the U.S. though is that you have to get a whole team of lawyers to survive in the U.S. while in the EU bribing local government is sufficient. Also by no means am I eager for more regulations, I'm advocating for less.
@0xCAFEF00D
@0xCAFEF00D 3 жыл бұрын
@@dyamineu5246 I've not heard about that. You mean they're doing it openly without any punishment? A source would be nice.
@didierlemoine6771
@didierlemoine6771 3 жыл бұрын
California is approaching to european standard years after years, will the others states of America follow ???
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs 3 жыл бұрын
@@dyamineu5246 The difference is: When EU companies do this it's illegal, so they have to do it subtly and they may suffer if they get caught (as German car manufacturers have for cheating on emissions tests). The rules aren't enforced as well as I'd like, but neither are they completely ignored. Meanwhile US companies don't even have to bother cheating, because they can freely build polluting garbage cars and use ecocidal pesticides.
@bruhmoment7546
@bruhmoment7546 3 жыл бұрын
The deal was never going to work since the EU and US have large differences in standards and no side was willing to give them up. I think this is a good thing, since i am proud of the EU standards which allows me to buy food without worrying about it.
@nihouma11
@nihouma11 3 жыл бұрын
As an American, I wish we had certain EU food regulations since America is more willing to tolerate certain foods that can potentially be harmful, but I do love me some things that wouldn't be ok under EU regulations, like our 'cheese product' options, and the lack of heritage/regional food options
@nicodesmidt4034
@nicodesmidt4034 3 жыл бұрын
@TalanSouthway can you explain what the situation is with "heritage/local food options?
@joshthurlow11
@joshthurlow11 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with that. I'm a hard Brexiteer but EU standards are amazing and I hope the UK keeps them up.
@nicodesmidt4034
@nicodesmidt4034 3 жыл бұрын
@Josh Thurlow I hope so too, but 'hope' alone might not be enough
@getnohappy
@getnohappy 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshthurlow11 No offence, but you're in for a shock
@nevarran
@nevarran 3 жыл бұрын
Staying away from corporate America is always a good thing in my book. Especially from today's USA.
@pedanticchicken2117
@pedanticchicken2117 3 жыл бұрын
Corporate America is the same exact companies as Corporate Europe. Corporate America isn't just American Companies
@Willywin
@Willywin 3 жыл бұрын
Seeing as it was the US under Trump that walked away from the trade deal... any more history you want to revise.
@pedanticchicken2117
@pedanticchicken2117 3 жыл бұрын
@@Willywin Thank you, America doesn't want to deal with regulations that are brought on by the EU. Trump walked away, the EU wanted the deal
@emilsinclair4190
@emilsinclair4190 3 жыл бұрын
@@pedanticchicken2117 depends. Europe is not one single thing and many people in Europe were against it.
@5GTower1000Percent
@5GTower1000Percent 3 жыл бұрын
​@@pedanticchicken2117 You seem to not understand how far down the US is... Cooperate US, is US. In the USA it is proven that your vote is absolutely worthless. Both parties dance to whatever companies play. It doesn't matter what color your posters have. The US is a oligarchy, far far away from a democracy, which it wouldn't even be even if it were to follow it's own constitution, which it today does not.
@javiTests
@javiTests 3 жыл бұрын
The EU and US have way too many differences for something like this to work properly. We could reach agreements on certain things, but not in some comprehensive deal. From health services (where in the EU everyone expect to be free or almost free) to economy.. we're way too different. And me being an European, and proud to be, I'm glad this didn't work. Could we learn some things from the US? I'm sure of it, but not forcing it through a deal. I prioritise people over economy any day (for example related to the foods standards, or pollution policies)
@TheChrisaige
@TheChrisaige 3 жыл бұрын
We need to protect those rights, labor laws are way more employer favoured in the US. Its unthinkable for most europeans that your employer can fire you instantly with no reason.
@AaronOkeanos
@AaronOkeanos 3 жыл бұрын
The way the EU countries handled Covid should be more than enough evidence of extreme differences in some areas.
@thewingedhussar4188
@thewingedhussar4188 3 жыл бұрын
I would agree this deal was a bad thing, atm with a certain orange SOB in office. But down the line I do hope we can get a good proper deal. As well as lift the US standards up, so companies don't have such a strangle hold over rights and liberties. For as far as I can see now, the EU at this point in time.. Is the leader of the free world.
@tutenvanman2715
@tutenvanman2715 3 жыл бұрын
javi are you an idiot the health service isn't free it comes out of taxes. It is probably more expensive than the American system but true figures are hidden. Brexit proves the eu are incapable of negotiations they can only demand. The EUseless are a total failure in every area they interfere. Thank heavens it is on its last legs as it no longer serves any useful purpose. Labor laws stifle employment wake up. As for food standards horse meat proves legislation and reality are two different things.
@stevenguild2707
@stevenguild2707 3 жыл бұрын
I agree that it would not work. The EU is a labyrinth/patchwork of countries each with their protected industries. The EU is all about protectionist trading relationships with all their tariffs and non-monetary barriers. I always laugh when I hear EU countries say they support free trade. There is nothing about the EU that represents fair trade.
@lifewhatsoever
@lifewhatsoever 3 жыл бұрын
Trading with the US is difficult because it must be on their rules. They aren’t willing to comprise. I’m glad the EU didn’t agree to their demands. Sadly, the UK won’t be so lucky.
@ce1834
@ce1834 3 жыл бұрын
thats one way of framing the EU's failure
@reellezahl
@reellezahl 3 жыл бұрын
@Tony Wilson I think CANZCUCK is a bollocks idea. It goes back to why we ditched the Commonwealth in the first place. It had nothing to do with Europe. It was down to one speech and a series of debates. Just like Brexit and Europe, in the 60s and 70s it was about *ending Freedom of Movement* - but in this case with the former British Empire. We had FoM, and then people (by this I mean the racists in our country) started to realise _O, crap, we only wanted the white people to come, not these brown and black people…sh##… forgot our Empire spread to Africa, the Carribean, and India, …damn it, how do we stop them p###__#s__ comin over 'ere but without looking racist?_ We literally had large numbers of civil servants specifically research how we could racially discriminate…without looking like we were. And lo and behold, we ended our free relations with EVERYBODY… and introduced a points based system (sound familiar to today?) and hoped that we would thereby retain relations with the ‘white‘ Commonwealth and kill our relations with the ‘brown and black‘ Commonwealth. We were also the sick man of Europe at that time and desperately jealous of our European neighbours, who seemed to prosper despite each of them having abandoned their old Empires/colonies. Since we could no longer exploit India and Africa, we want a piece of that cake. We joined, we voted Remain 67.2% in 1975, and all was well … until (after 40 years of antieuropean propaganda) the debate on the same racist lines about Freedom of Movement (this time with the rest of Europe and not the rest of the Empire) we had the same dumbarsery of the past. This all-us ‘turning our backs on the Commonwealth‘ (as Fartage puts it) and us leaving Europe-was always really about our ego and racism. Every other reason given just a smokescreen to sell Brexit to moderate voters.
@RoadRashSpirit
@RoadRashSpirit 3 жыл бұрын
​@@reellezahl You are an idiot. Yes there are racists in the world, of all ethic backgrounds and colours, as you have demonstrated quite well, it is very much human nature to have predudices. But just because people have concerns with immigration policies does not make them all a bunch of racists. Its attitudes like that, that are currently polarising people into partisan camps allowing people like farage and the erg to dominate and screw everyone over. Because ultimatley everything comes down to commerce and profit (not skin colour), learn your history properly and stop making it up to suit your own ideological disposal. You undermined your own arguement but stating we had open border policies and were at the same time the sick man of europe...(have a think about that link). Diluting the labour market and depressing wages has a massive effect on the circulation of wealth in an economy. Howerver the most important economic movements happen as a consequence of price, like how the Empire crumbled because it was to expensive to defend, in much the same way, it is much cheaper to move (for example), agricultral products from france across the chanel with no tarrifs, than it would be to ship it half way around the world from another first world country. However in contrast, our own industrial leaders have moved production and even service sector jobs to developing countrys like China and India, since polulation size is so large and wages are so low in those countries, it has been cheaper to pay tarrifs and import goods than produce at home. Every economic decision and war through out mankinds history has been a complicated tangle of trade and commerce. Only a simpleton could genuineley beleive all mans ills are caused by skin colour alone. History clearly shows what we fight about is money and power, we only justify those battles with ideological reasons such as religion , ethnicity or political persuasion. That being said, for obvious reasons, this is not the sort of stuff they like to teach in school so how would you know any better?
@j.6230
@j.6230 3 жыл бұрын
@@reellezahl Modern racism is the equivalent of name-calling, insignificant.
@animalian01
@animalian01 3 жыл бұрын
@@reellezahl obvious who the racist is here and I don't think its the Brexiteers
@KathyClysm
@KathyClysm 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the video, but it is kind of weird for this to be the EU channel but all examples mentioned are UK institutions. If you are going to seperate UK and EU, I feel it'd be only fair to mention actual EU examples. I know it's easier for you guys to research in UK sources, but there are other newspapers in Europe, you know ;)
@SnipsMine
@SnipsMine 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing.
@popelgruner595
@popelgruner595 3 жыл бұрын
They only language they know is English, classic language bias.
@marcelh7864
@marcelh7864 3 жыл бұрын
@@popelgruner595 There are also european news that translate their articles into English. But TLDR clearly has a UK bias that partly is informed through their language.
@popelgruner595
@popelgruner595 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcelh7864 I can hardly believe they read the English version of the German Spiegel online magazine or watch the English version of France24...
@CyanH
@CyanH 3 жыл бұрын
@@marcelh7864 there are other countries with english newspapers that are written in english natively too, so even if they werent aware of the translated newspapers theyd have obvious options. We do get forgotten often but ireland has newspapers too! 😂
@BiteBolt_77
@BiteBolt_77 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god that TTIP failed
@Keyboardje
@Keyboardje 3 жыл бұрын
Thank *all the people* who have rightly rebelled against it!
@JB-yb4wn
@JB-yb4wn 3 жыл бұрын
Yes now go build a temple to your magic sky fairy.
@jasperpluk
@jasperpluk 3 жыл бұрын
@@JB-yb4wn what the hell are u talking about?
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs 3 жыл бұрын
In the spirit of the EU, these sorts of comprehensive trade liberalisation deals should really be tied to freedoms for individual citizens and not just corporations. You know, the way the Four Freedoms of the European Single Market include free movement of _persons_ as well as goods and services, and you can't be in the Single Market without accepting all four.
@FlatMax2
@FlatMax2 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was the right thing to do. It was not worth jeopardizing the high standards that Europe has achieved. I can live well without the deal.
@lacdirk
@lacdirk 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, the expected gains were too small to offset the cost.
@tutenvanman2715
@tutenvanman2715 3 жыл бұрын
Americans wouldn't want horse meat in their beefburgers. What eu standards.
@FlatMax2
@FlatMax2 3 жыл бұрын
Tuten Vanman Horse meat is beef then in Europe? When it is declared beef, it is all beef. Horse meat is eaten traditionally in certain regions and is often deemed a delicacy. The standard of food quality is much higher in Europe than in the US.
@tutenvanman2715
@tutenvanman2715 3 жыл бұрын
@@FlatMax2 Yesterday beef came from cows today horse is ok tomorrow slugs just part of the eu moving goalposts strategy.
@lacdirk
@lacdirk 3 жыл бұрын
@@tutenvanman2715 That's not quite correct: Americans just don't want to know what meat is in their "beef"burgers. That's why they don't test it. When private companies or academic studies research what is sold in minced beef in the US, the results are invariably horrific. But no one wants to know, so the studies are buried and there is no push to add this to the FDA testing. Since the scandal, EU regulations have added DNA testing to their arsenal, and the food supply chain is therefore improved.
@oliverbenjamin7038
@oliverbenjamin7038 3 жыл бұрын
The reason TTIP why he failed was because he was not open to his people. That's what happens when you feel you know it all. Just like a newborn baby in forex or bitcoin trading claiming he knows it all and ends up blowing off his account
@birgitkelle7201
@birgitkelle7201 3 жыл бұрын
You don't do that in crypto currency because you will fucking see yourself begging on the street.
@robertemily1645
@robertemily1645 3 жыл бұрын
Crypto currencies such as bitcoin are highly unpredictable, though it's been used as famous Investment vehicle.
@kelvinliu8941
@kelvinliu8941 3 жыл бұрын
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@lisasweeney8827
@lisasweeney8827 3 жыл бұрын
Trading as a newbies is quite stressful and discouraging but I was in that phase before till I get myself an expert who helped me
@nurmark322
@nurmark322 3 жыл бұрын
@@lisasweeney8827 Its obvious people remain poor due to ignorant
@schale8051
@schale8051 3 жыл бұрын
There were many things about that atrocious deal I hated when it first came up but the ISDS clauses scared the shit out of me. I'm glad it didn't go through
@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman
@ICHBinCOOLERalsJeman 3 жыл бұрын
I am honestly shocked about the backroom deal nature of this deal, it just goes to show that they knew this would never find public support
@connla
@connla 3 жыл бұрын
All trade deals are backroom in nature. They are negotiated not by representatives but by private entities and bureaucrats in secret representing each side and not released publicly til they are agreed by both sides and ready to be put to a vote.
@TomTom-du5qv
@TomTom-du5qv 3 жыл бұрын
Think this is bad, look at the USMCA the US just entered. It's the worst parts of NAFTA + TPP.
@somethinglikethat2176
@somethinglikethat2176 3 жыл бұрын
If you tried doing it in public it would be a non stop parade of people jumping up and down and no deal would ever get done.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
No need to be shocked, regardless of what any deal ended up looking like, it would have to be approved by each of the EU member countries in their democratically elected parliaments. Any EU country can veto it. Thats why EU trade deals are even more complex and take even longer than other trade deals, coz as long as just 1 country is not happy with the deal (not just the government, their parliament), its not going to happen. No deal, where any kind of food standards, environmental standards, worker protections etc were lowered or compromised, would ever get through, coz even in the unlikely event that a handful of countries were ok with it, the vast majority would veto it. And all u need is 1 veto. Thats the sovereign power in the EU. Regardless of what Brexiters told the British population, the EU doesnt decide anything for u, nobody can force u into a deal, u dont want. Even if Germany, France, all of the big countries were in favor, any 1 small country like Denmark or Belgium could veto it. The Brexiters lied about that, so they could blame all their bs on the EU, almost all, of what Ive heard Brexit supporters complain about, had nothing to do with the EU, it was all about national decisions by their own government/parliament, who just found it easier to blame unpopular decisions on the EU. And even the tiny bit, that had to do with the EU, could only happen, coz all 28 (now 27) countries agree on it, including the UK!
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
@@connla as Dood ! says, it doesnt work like that in the EU. Dont make the mistake of thinking, that the rest of the world works like the US, almost none do, and certainly not the EU.
@dougreimer2912
@dougreimer2912 3 жыл бұрын
If the US refuses to recognize and protect European products such as Champagne, Feta and National Health Services how could the EU ever expect to maintain any kind of commerce and trade parity with the US. America only wants trade deals where they have the ultimate advantage. So yes the EU should walk away from these negotiations.
@dee-jay45
@dee-jay45 3 жыл бұрын
Both are probably true. The benefits were probably exaggerated, just as the risks were. But it is also a hard deal to sell when a country like the US proves, again and again, that it cares more about its corporations than its people. Especially with Trump in charge. If the US's values more closely alligned with Canada for example, I could see a free trade deal happening.
@lacdirk
@lacdirk 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it will ever happen. Trump may have been an anomaly, but it is impossible to say that the next election couldn't bring another loon in charge, and we've seen that the US political system cannot sufficiently constrain a truly bad president. Even when he's incompetent. So the US is going to remain a high-risk country to deal with. Mind you, the US has never been really keen on trade deals in the first place, which is why they have so few.
@blancavelasquez9859
@blancavelasquez9859 3 жыл бұрын
Dirk Lac considering how our economy is bigger than the entire EU (including Britain) I’m sure we’ll do just fine, we have a whole continent to ourselves we don’t need another
@ephraimboateng5239
@ephraimboateng5239 3 жыл бұрын
That why Canada has a trade deal with Europe now. We are like half way between US and EU. Hoping to get closer to the EU
@stevenguild2707
@stevenguild2707 3 жыл бұрын
All this US bashing while the weenies in EU fail to see their own MAJOR failings. UK has left the EU, and it won’t be the last. Brussels is on its last legs. 🤣
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
@@lacdirk the US was always, if not high risk, then higher risk to deal with. By now, they have clearly shown, that deals or not, treaties or not, they cannot be trusted any further than the next election, if even that long. That in itself makes a trade deal impossible. It also means, that the EU will be taking a lot more reservations on minor deals, to fx. make sure, that we arent bound by it any longer, once the US breaks its word again.
@mbogucki1
@mbogucki1 3 жыл бұрын
And yet somehow Canada managed an agreement removing like 98% of the tariffs.
@mbogucki1
@mbogucki1 3 жыл бұрын
@2Crassus Crassus Provisionally in effect waiting final ratification from remaining EU states.
@granville7
@granville7 3 жыл бұрын
3:14 sadly, an increase in national (or global) income doesn't mean it 'translates into extra disposable income' for (the average) citizens. Sure, proponents of deregulation love those number plays full knowing it's their clientele cashing in the lion's share. The average citizen is left with less consumer protection and a gutted state unable to introduce new legislation to protect him from greedy multinational corporations.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
What really makes me facepalm as an accountant, and well, a citizen of Europe, about Americans and their view of trade deals, its how Americans have been spoonfed a false narrative. Trade deals in themselves arent evil or even bad. Trade deals are supposed to be win-win, an advantage for both sides (or all sides in multilateral deals) making every1 more prosperous. But Americans have been taught, that trade deals are the root of all evil, when its actually ur irresponsible governments and ur culture of letting every1 fend for themselves. Let me explain, what I mean. In every trade deal, u get some, and u give some. When countries do a trade deal, its the net sum, that counts first. Yes, there will always be individual losers, certain industries or products or some such, but like Mr. Spock says "the good of the many outweigh the good of the few, or the one". So countries are willing to sacrifice some job loss, when the deal means, that they gain 5, 10, 20 times as many jobs elsewhere. NAFTA fx. was a huge job maker - net. The problem arises, when it comes to the few, who were sacrificed for the many. In the US the trade deals are blamed for that, coz it follows the trade deal, and thats partially true, but only partially. The real blame lies with the government, and here both parties in the US have equal blame, who sacrifice those few (to stay with Mr. Spock) and then do nothing to help them. Its not the trade deal, its the lack of government accountability, u need to blame. All other countries do something to help the ppl, who lost on a trade deal, that country struck. Coz most countries have a conscience, their governments exist to help their citizens. In my country ppl get help finding new jobs, if they can no longer find jobs in their profession, they are assisted in finding a new profession, in updating their skills/education or getting a new education in a new line of work (education is free of charge here). And they receive payments all the way through, so they can keep their home and food on the table etc. The problem in the US isnt the trade deals in themselves. Its that the US doesnt believe in helping citizens in need, even when they caused that need. It runs counter to everything, most of the rest of us believe. I can understand, why Americans think, theyre being shafted by "bad" trade deals, when they lose their jobs, when the factory in town closes down - and their government does nothing to help them. But thats not a failure of the trade deal, thats a failure of government.
@Bobelponge123
@Bobelponge123 3 жыл бұрын
Dfuher D America bad
@Leugim010
@Leugim010 3 жыл бұрын
What a great video! I didn't know much about this failed trade deal before watching this.
@daa3930
@daa3930 3 жыл бұрын
You made a video about EU-USA trade deal on a channel which focuses on EU matters and you still spend most of the video talking about NHS. As if you guys still (want to) believe that UK is in EU.
@AaronOkeanos
@AaronOkeanos 3 жыл бұрын
Not quite that and the video is in the right channel. But what this video is actually showing is a prospect of what the US will do to the UK soon. I mean a trade deal negotiation which is hold in private (EU's one is public) and the trade deal details should not be published for 5 years. Completly unheard of and not a very good sign.
@stevenguild2707
@stevenguild2707 3 жыл бұрын
Aaron Okeanos where are you getting this 5 years nonsense? Turn off the left wing news.
@sualtam9509
@sualtam9509 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenguild2707 assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/881072/UK_to_US_trade_agreement_confidentiality_letter.pdf It's public information. Maybe you should rethink your choice of media in this case.
@SuperSmashDolls
@SuperSmashDolls 3 жыл бұрын
It was a factor in why TTIP stalled out, arguably a factor as to why conservative elites started endorsing a Brexit referendum, and will likely be a similar stumbling block to any US/UK trade deal. Let's be honest here: there's not much to liberalize *left* between the UK and US. Both countries are already pretty free trade. What's left to negotiate on are things which require significant compromise on either side. That's why the EU gave up on negotiating with the US, since we (I'm an American) wouldn't raise our standards to match theirs. Presumably, this means the UK would have to lower their standards to give the US access to their market.
@joshaijer9476
@joshaijer9476 3 жыл бұрын
@@stevenguild2707 turn off the right wing news
@ifer1280
@ifer1280 3 жыл бұрын
The only deal that could work would be one where EU and US commit to the highest standard in either territory.
@AaronOkeanos
@AaronOkeanos 3 жыл бұрын
In other words the US increases their to EU level. The point on this is: Some industries across the world already work on the level of the EU as "standard" with the idea: If it's EU standard/certified it's accepted everywhere including the EU.
@pollutingpenguin2146
@pollutingpenguin2146 3 жыл бұрын
Could you stop the UK as an example for the EU now that they aren’t a part of it anymore?
@joshebarry
@joshebarry 3 жыл бұрын
They do typically, but this was 6 years ago so the UK was in at the time.
@quasimodo6860
@quasimodo6860 3 жыл бұрын
@@joshebarry The UK were never really in the EU. They were always cherry picking. And they can't find their ways out.
@Leicht_Sinn
@Leicht_Sinn 3 жыл бұрын
fun fact they still are :D until 2021
@Lee-ii9mk
@Lee-ii9mk 3 жыл бұрын
they’re are other channel available. if you’re not happy.
@bildkistl
@bildkistl 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's relevant because the UK wants now a deal with the US
@dulio12385
@dulio12385 3 жыл бұрын
In short, don't trade with the EU unless you're willing to bend over for Brussels, don't trade with the US unless you are ready for a free for all brawl.
@rollosinternet1853
@rollosinternet1853 3 жыл бұрын
SO happy it did not happen, it would have affected lives of Europeans citizens just to make rich people richer. No way a comprehensive deal can be achieved, as the USA does not give a sh*t about quality and health of its citizens. Keep it as small agreements, not a total trade deal.
@99smite
@99smite 3 жыл бұрын
The first and most important reason TTIP failed was its lack of transparency. Whenever administrations are negotiating trade deals while refusing to let their people and voters know what is negotiated on, chances of voter approvement is slim to none. And yes, we have in Europe protected origin products, like champagne, Cognac, Nuremberger Bratwurst, Thüringer Rostbratwurst, Schwarzwälder Schinken, prosciutto di Parma, formaggio parmesan and many more. It is like Cornish cream in the perfid Albion, in case the narrator did not know... ISDS clauses are nowadays the death nail for any trade agreements. No matter how often they have been implemented in the past, currently, voters will become upset if there is a "lex prives" implemented that protects the richest corporations and makes all citizens automatically citizens of second class... And to be fair, there never were "real" negotiations meaning that the US representatives were never free to negotiate a compromise, therefore the EU representatives were under the impression that negotiations could only follow along the US rules, which is meaningless from start to end. It was not only the chlorinated chicken controversy, but the fact that the US wanted to force the EU to accept their crappy food products and were not ready to accept European food products that would not be lawful under US regulations... Where is the compromise there?
@deltaxcd
@deltaxcd 3 жыл бұрын
TTIP was just favorable for Us which would have just destroyed the EU and turned it into their colony The US has very low social security standards, low tax and regulations for corporations so EU has no chances to compete with that unless EU is ready to throw half of its population into poverty.
@ShamanMcLamie
@ShamanMcLamie 3 жыл бұрын
The average Western European has less material wealth and spending power than the poorest fifth of Americans and this takes Social Welfare programs into account. The reason the EU isn't competitive is because they over regulate their economy. It's also why they're poorer than Americans. That is why the EU is always trying to use treaties like the Tokyo Accords and Paris Accords to bring US energy standards to EU levels so they can compete, but will make the US less competitive around the world and increase energy prices for Americans. Then you have the EUs irrational ban on GMO foods when it's been proven over and over again they are safe to eat. Then Europeans wonder why there economies are stagnant and noncompetitive around the globe.
@dermotmcglinchey282
@dermotmcglinchey282 3 жыл бұрын
ShamanMcLamie A drivelling troll🤦🏻‍♂️ and if you’re not what a load of horseshit...
@waterdrinkingexpert6797
@waterdrinkingexpert6797 3 жыл бұрын
@1ctrlaltdelete1 I would like to see you prove his points wrong
@temptemp563
@temptemp563 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@thorodinson5034
@thorodinson5034 3 жыл бұрын
i was quite happy, we stopped that nonsense. The less american business behaviour we get over here, the better. Sad enough how they negatively effect the rest of the world with their practices and "culture"
@blancavelasquez9859
@blancavelasquez9859 3 жыл бұрын
Cry more🤣
@frankleespeaking9519
@frankleespeaking9519 3 жыл бұрын
Thor Odinson If you think American business “culture “ is so evil, you’re in luck. In about 15 years we’ll all be beholden to the Chinese communist party and their culture. No labor unions, environmental standards, human rights, copyright protection.........Happy days ahead
@erics2982
@erics2982 3 жыл бұрын
I think I'm going to make Deep Fried Bratwurst and sell them at the next Iowa fair.
@warmachineuk
@warmachineuk 3 жыл бұрын
For me, ISDS was a total non-starter and exemplifies the difference between US and European cultures. For most Europeans, legislation and regulation exists to implement the public will and if a corporation doesn't like a law, tough. Whereas plenty of Americans regard regulation as an impediment to profit making to be removed.
@freakingemu
@freakingemu 3 жыл бұрын
I remember when this was about to pass TTIP a tv-host just went full in on the agreement and even got his segment seen by the lead negotiator for the EU
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
"when this was about to pass" - what are u talking about? Nothing was about to pass, they were not even halfway through negotiations. And any lowering of standards of the like would never have been on the table, coz its the foundation of the EU, and all the leaders of state agreed, that that was simply not an option. They tried to find minor concessions without compromising on standards to see, if the US was even willing to negotiate, but they were not, they simply had a long string of demands, many of which the EU couldnt even grant, even had we been willing to, and said take it or leave it. After which the lead negotiator told the Americans, that the EU does not negotiate with a gun to our heads, and that was that. Nothing was within years of being sent to the EU Parliament and all of the national parliaments to be passed.
@MrSovetsky
@MrSovetsky 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on EU trade deal with Australia or/and how CETA impacted the trade between two parties
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 3 жыл бұрын
It would benefit large transnational corporations again, not citizens, so definitely a good thing that it stalled. There should be a measure of how the agreement will benefit the poorest in the society, and not only in economic terms but in health and wellbeing terms, possibly in reducing inequality terms as well. GDP measure is so 20th century
@dyamineu5246
@dyamineu5246 3 жыл бұрын
A bigger economy benefits everyone in a free market capitalist nation.
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs
@HeadsFullOfEyeballs 3 жыл бұрын
@@dyamineu5246 Only if the gains are spread around evenly rather than going to the already wealthy. Real wages are stagnant and social services are being cut in much of the West despite economic growth and huge gains for the top 1% of earners. TTIP would by its nature primarily benefit large multinational corporations and their shareholders, who have entire departments dedicated to ensuring that they _don't_ have to share their wealth with society at large through taxes etc.
@SuperSmashDolls
@SuperSmashDolls 3 жыл бұрын
@@dyamineu5246 That's great to say until your unskilled job is outcompeted by another country that won't adopt your country's labor standards nor grant you a work visa. We treat immigration and immigrants with extreme suspicion, because we think we need to protect our labor markets... but we also sign trade deals that make it far easier to just move the whole operation to another country. This is "free markets for me but not for thee". Immigration laws are designed to imprison you in your own country (so the demand stays where it is) while the global elite fly around and move your jobs to cheaper countries (so the supply gets cheaper).
@Theorimlig
@Theorimlig 3 жыл бұрын
Regulation = good. Even the countries within the EU are so different that more protectionism is needed for many countries to maintain viable key sectors like agriculture.
@del69blue
@del69blue Жыл бұрын
Just before the Brexit vote the arrangements for MPs seeing certain sections of the agreement were revealed. Various arrangements about only seeing certain sections under secure conditions, not being allowed to make any copies and a veil of secrecy around them
@PauloHenriquepaulith
@PauloHenriquepaulith 3 жыл бұрын
Do a video about the EU-Mercosul trade. That’d be interesting
@rogerwilco2
@rogerwilco2 3 жыл бұрын
I think most US citizens would prefer the EU rules and regulations. It's just the greed of a few wealthy party donors and lobby groups that make US standards much lower than EU standards.
@richardbarrett8365
@richardbarrett8365 3 жыл бұрын
You sure do not understand the people of the US. Unlike the people of the EU they are not brainwashed. It also seems a lot of the people of the EU have began to question whether all those Socialist rules are for them.
@groooah
@groooah 3 жыл бұрын
Richard Barrett This is coming from someone that probably watches Fox News. Congratulations on that one. But do forgive us for not wanting our chicken to be dipped chlorine. Or Europe’s citizens. The Europe critics are very useful. While I personally do not always agree with them, they definitely show what kind of things need to be adjusted and what is not going in the right direction. Being critical does not equal that people want to leave.
@thestonegateroadrunner7305
@thestonegateroadrunner7305 3 жыл бұрын
TTIP was doomed from the beginning and the EU's "Think big" was the first nail in the coffin.
@KnuxMaster368
@KnuxMaster368 3 жыл бұрын
The Stonegate Roadrunner TTIP was too ambitious and not the right step
@rbewoor
@rbewoor 3 жыл бұрын
Please cover belt and road initiative. Despite not being euro-centric, it does have global implications
@felipejnnt
@felipejnnt 3 жыл бұрын
Please cover the EU - Mercosur deal
@michaelfiedler1419
@michaelfiedler1419 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god, it never came to fruition. No chlorinated chicken and no genetically manipulated foods.
@MrBizteck
@MrBizteck 3 жыл бұрын
Britain will get it by the bucketload.
@theyoutubeguy1
@theyoutubeguy1 3 жыл бұрын
All crops are genetically manipulated. Look at wild bananas.
@michaelfiedler1419
@michaelfiedler1419 3 жыл бұрын
@@theyoutubeguy1 I need to admit that at least you're partially right. There's already way too much of GMOs in the EU. But it pretty much depends on the member state of the EU. France and Germany are at least kind of off the hook. If ttip did happen, members probably didn't have that liberty to choose, they would have to eat, whatever America came up with... no thanks to that.
@SuchAnInterestingName
@SuchAnInterestingName 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like the sound for TLDR videos gets more and more muffled, is it just me?
@Schmissgesicht
@Schmissgesicht 3 жыл бұрын
now that you say that yes ... maybe the mic lost quality
@kumkurmuko
@kumkurmuko 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video on what's happening in Bulgaria now
@wikirexmax
@wikirexmax 3 жыл бұрын
Concerning the rules of origin, I remind you that products sold in the USA under the name Bourbon or Rye Whiskey have to be made in the USA.
@ephraimboateng5239
@ephraimboateng5239 3 жыл бұрын
Didn't my country, Canada, successfully made a trade deal with the EU
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, u did. It took 7 years, which is actually pretty fast. Coz u respected, that EU standards and laws must be upheld for goods and services sold in the EU, and u were in a fair and level playing field working for both sides, so it was mostly about agreeing on products, export limits, individual tariffs and various technical details.
@casperes0912
@casperes0912 3 жыл бұрын
More euros for an average family of 4? Haha, no. More money in the bank for Jeff Bezos
@jackerty
@jackerty 3 жыл бұрын
Since no official draft was given we can argue not enough information was out population to make educated decision on TTIP.
@vectro589
@vectro589 2 жыл бұрын
Where is the EU and MERCOSUL video?
@_..Justin-Case.._
@_..Justin-Case.._ 3 жыл бұрын
Can Australia and the EU + UK have a free trade deal already please, Australia should be aligning itself strongly with Europe now more than ever.
@Progen77
@Progen77 3 жыл бұрын
Australia has never been strongly aligned with the EU. They support the US in most matters. A US, UK, Australia deal is more likely.
@AaronOkeanos
@AaronOkeanos 3 жыл бұрын
A little concern regarding China?
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
EU and Australia have only been in negotiations for about a year. Canada and EU took 7 years, which is extremely fast for a FTA. And Australia cannot be aligned to both the US and the EU, that makes it a lot harder, coz the EU will not risk anything coming into the EU from Australia, that doesnt adhere to EU laws and standards, and certainly not risk Australia becoming a backdoor for the US and their substandard goods. That doesnt make a EU-Australia FTA impossible, but it makes it really complicated, and complicated takes years.
@_..Justin-Case.._
@_..Justin-Case.._ 3 жыл бұрын
Dfuher D Thankyou for the polite and informative response. I hope in the future Europe and Australia can become closer and more connected.
@denisbaribeau509
@denisbaribeau509 3 жыл бұрын
"It's no longer possible for the US to expect the whole World to dance to their tune"
@5daboz
@5daboz 3 жыл бұрын
I remember than in my country most controversy came from parts concerning anti-piracy and anty-terrorism (information gathering and police empowerment) laws.
@yannikoloff7659
@yannikoloff7659 3 жыл бұрын
Slovakia?
@TheLastSoundNL
@TheLastSoundNL Жыл бұрын
Coming back to this the talking points came back to me. Good video.ISDS and food deregulations were the reasons I went to protest. There are a lot of regulations here. The fear was that even if a company didn't really want to expand here, they could pretend to, to sue for a quick pay out if they were denied because of regulations. My country the Netherlands has protected zones to keep nature alive and few forests. Imagine a Canadian logging company coming here for logging where there are barely any forests and the majority of that is protected. It just doesn't make any sense. Or they would build houses and expand cities in areas where it's very difficult to expand now. There is a huge urban area called the Randstad around the Green Heart a protected area. The examples people were yelling about were a bit much but the problems coming were probably very real. There was an in depth documentary what companies could do and had done through ISDS already in Canada with gas drilling. Here in the Netherlands we already had gas drilling scandal on our own without the help of ISDS. Then with this they would have to pay the company if they were denied or keep drilling despite the damage caused to housing and the population there. Essentially the government would be used as a cash cow instead of anything productive. Money that could be used elsewhere instead of lining the pockets of lawyers and companies. So it's very debatable if the GDP would actually increase. It's like placing a kick me to get money sign on your back. And even if it did increase, that doesn't mean the standard of living there gets better. It can even decrease. That documentary also showed a country in Africa under ISDS where the company just kept workers there in terrible conditions, exploited land and violated safety precautions. The people angry and protesting the companies in the neighborhood just didn't have a say. They didn't improve anything.
@dadikkedude
@dadikkedude 3 жыл бұрын
Corporations want the right to sue nations. Sounds like America to me. Reform the US olichargy and trade can happen.
@SteveWhipp
@SteveWhipp 3 жыл бұрын
Why would the EU want to have a trade deal with to a country with very questionable human rights, a lobbyist ruled governance and an extreme version of predatory capitalism? As an aside, I've always admired the ideals in the founding of the US, but this last 40 years (since approximately Regan's ascension) the regulatory capture by large corporations and billionaires has been very sad to observe.
@goddardpolicyresearch1777
@goddardpolicyresearch1777 3 жыл бұрын
The origin of ISDS is much older than the 1950s. The Germany-Pakistan Investment agreement from the 1950s and the World Bank development of the ICSID ISDS system, plus model treaties, is just the modern iteration of a much older investor protection system. TTIP failed in part due to intellectual property harmonisation issues.
@HansVonMannschaft
@HansVonMannschaft 3 жыл бұрын
I'm sad I still have to pay import tax on US Kickstarter campaigns.
@Lyendith
@Lyendith 3 жыл бұрын
Those supposed "benefits for GDP growth and employment" were very dubious to begin with. More than a few economists begged to differ. The problem is, even if the TTIP failed, the CETA (the EU-Canada agreement), which is similar in many ways, did come to pass, so US companies just have to use that instead.
@milosveselinovic1
@milosveselinovic1 3 жыл бұрын
Europe has: -better food quality standards -workers protection -a health care system for all -no death penalty This are differences we should not accept any compromise for a trade deal!
@jwil4286
@jwil4286 3 жыл бұрын
you know how they pay for that health care system? they outsource their military spending to America (under NATO).
@leonmccurdy3672
@leonmccurdy3672 3 жыл бұрын
If your standards are high you can sell your product anywhere in the world, if they are low then you can only sell it to those who except your standards.
@MathiasGmail86
@MathiasGmail86 3 жыл бұрын
Kentucky Fried Bratwurst sound bloody brilliant
@ChilapaOfTheAmazons
@ChilapaOfTheAmazons 3 жыл бұрын
This is a very *UK-centric* EU video. 🙄 You repeated the world "NHS" far more often than "EU". Maybe when making videos for this channel seek the input of someone outside the UK or avoid getting all your information exclusively from UK newspapers. There's an entire continent across the English Channel. 😜
@whattheflyingfuck...
@whattheflyingfuck... 3 жыл бұрын
yeah a little brit-washing is expected with that accent, right? seriously: tl;dr are always biased towards the anglo-american system.
@MetallicReg
@MetallicReg 3 жыл бұрын
Obligatory nitpicking on the web: Europe is not a continent. It is a subcontinent of Eurasia.
@juanmola2000
@juanmola2000 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetallicReg Depends on who you ask, but thats another matter
@kiranjackson7412
@kiranjackson7412 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetallicReg 10/10 👏👏Honestly don't know what I would've done without you.
@gcrecords1731
@gcrecords1731 3 жыл бұрын
@@MetallicReg europe is a continents from iberya to china included baltics state and nordics state there is no water to by separated , is called eurasia there was found the mummie europeans eurasiatics ,with tatoo the scityans hunters
@rehurekj
@rehurekj 3 жыл бұрын
3: 58 "so much potentional benefits" i'm sorry but for UK with its plus minus 3trillion economy the most optimistic gain of 10billion is rather insignificant, the same can be applied to rest( then) EU and US, not to mention the past experience with those economic studies which often tend to overestimate the hypothetical benefits and down play possible negative impacts( just like they down play the very real impact of private arbitrations on the targeted countries- UK and EU or US arent 3rd world countries so they can defend themselves better and shoulder possible costs but those arbitrations still leave them open and vulnerable to mandated lowering of quality standards and health and safety protections by unelected and unchecked 3rd party.)
@herosstratos
@herosstratos 3 жыл бұрын
The volume of the so called “benefits“ is probably of the size of the volume of the costs of the impending legal disputes inflicted through TTIP.
@adgeyuk9803
@adgeyuk9803 3 жыл бұрын
The EU is not a country it’s a trading block.
@rehurekj
@rehurekj 3 жыл бұрын
@@adgeyuk9803 and that is important to mention why? country or trading block its still one single market and one customs area that requires on set of external tariffs and one set of minimal specifications and standards( as agreed by its member states) so it will be EU not its member states( just like it will be US not its federal states) that will be attacked in arbitration just like its EU not its member states and US not its federal states who entered the free trade deal negotiations.
@lorrainetormey2826
@lorrainetormey2826 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, happy it’s not going ahead.
@fportugal79
@fportugal79 3 жыл бұрын
It's just a matter of time (rather in the long term) for which the Parties resumes the discussiones to get a stroger cooperation mechanism.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
The general idea of a comprehensive free trade deal between the EU and the US is good. However, once u look at the details, u see, that we are so diametrically opposed on so many levels, that in practice it is impossible. The short overview: The EU works, as long as we protect the Single Market including adhering to standards, regulations, worker protections etc, all of which cannot be negotiated, if we start compromising on that, giving special access to outside countries under more favorable terms than our own producers are allowed, the Single Market and with it the EU would collapse. And thats just the economy side of it, dont forget everything else, it would influence, from the environment to our personal health and freedoms. That is something, the US fundamentally does not understand (nor do Brexiters). The US believes, EVERYTHING is negotiable, and that they inherently still warrant special treatment. They dont see a problem in them demanding access to our market with fx. beef, that is cheaper, coz they use all kinds of GM and medicins, that are banned in the EU due to health concerns, or fx. various kitchen bowls and pots and such, which are cheaper, coz they are produced under conditions, that are illegal in the EU, using cheap, substandard materials filled with toxins etc. Coz the US is all about the money and their own exceptionalism. They disregard our argument, that we cannot allow any1 access to our market with goods and services, that do not adhere to same standards, we demand from our own farmers, manufacturers etc and any1 else in the world, coz that would be unfair competition, coz thats the point for them, they WANT that advantage and consider having to compete on equal terms an insult to their exceptionalism. Likewise they disregard our food standards, environmental standards, worker protections etc and call them "unfair trading blockages", coz they do not care about such things. And when 1 party not only will not, but cannot, compromise the fundamentals of their existence, and the other party refuses to respect or even acknowledge that other partys right to hold to that, there is no road to a deal.
@retro61
@retro61 3 жыл бұрын
Well done to the EU upholding its standards! My blood runs cold thinking what we're going to end up losing in the UK, as we're clearly only in a position to ask the US how low should we go? (basically abandoning all the standards we gained during our EU membership). Which, as a corollary, is why the EU needs to flat out boycott the UK when we try to access their market, after giving away all our standards
@Progen77
@Progen77 3 жыл бұрын
America will be the UK's new EU. It has positioned itself in that direction. It is what it is, standards go down but free movement ends and a more traditional British culture returns.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
@@Progen77 More traditional British culture? U mean, that instead of being at the table making the decisions as 1 of the big 3 most influential members, British tradional culture instead entails becoming a US territory with zero rights in all but name? Ok then. If thats what u think, u leaving was probably for the best.
@95winston
@95winston 3 жыл бұрын
Have you got a video on the yank and UK trade deal in the pipeline
@GuntherFehlingerPaxEuropeana
@GuntherFehlingerPaxEuropeana 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a series on Indonesia and ASEAN EU FTA
@ChristianIce
@ChristianIce 3 жыл бұрын
Long Live the Mighty European Union
@leonefoscolo
@leonefoscolo 3 жыл бұрын
E the chi fai qui?
@ChristianIce
@ChristianIce 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonefoscolo C'ero dalla nascita. I canali che trattano la Brexit l'ho consumati :)
@alcarbo8613
@alcarbo8613 3 жыл бұрын
Well will see how outdated this statement is when Marie Le Penn is president of France and Germany is in extreme political turmoil with no clear majority in the Bundestag
@davidblackwood106
@davidblackwood106 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@alcarbo8613
@alcarbo8613 3 жыл бұрын
Nspnspker Yea and Donald Trump will never be elected President of the U.S and the UK will never leave the E.U oh wait!
@shelleyscloud3651
@shelleyscloud3651 3 жыл бұрын
Not watched yet but having been a part of those talks I can tell you the fundamental reason now : US couldn’t bully a deal as they normally do and were faced with negotiators who were at least as experienced as them and who represented an equally powerful economy. [Also side issues - amazing how incapable the US was to appreciate that the EU came as a BLOCK of 28; that they couldn’t just pick and choose which Member State / sector in. AND as a federalised country US couldn’t promise the compliance of all its states with the final agreement]
@cjmhall
@cjmhall 3 жыл бұрын
The US couldn't promise compliance of the states on matters relating to procurement. Each state is a sovereign entity and it is not the role of the federal government to dictate how the states run their own governments.
@shelleyscloud3651
@shelleyscloud3651 3 жыл бұрын
ChrisJ not only procurement
@nicodesmidt4034
@nicodesmidt4034 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight much appreciated, and makes sense. That's EU's strength, act as one. Now UK are on their own and will be crushed most likely
@nicodesmidt4034
@nicodesmidt4034 3 жыл бұрын
@ChrisJ I would expect same for workers rights, environmental rules, arbitrage, consumer protection, United in United States also means union, so same issues as in EU, the ultimate country is sovereign (Except for Scotland that is 🤣)
@adaxasd
@adaxasd 3 жыл бұрын
I'M WATCHING THIS BEFORE LUNCH, AND KENTUCKY FRIED BRATWURST SOUNDS AMAZING RIGHT NOW
@btpennycook
@btpennycook 3 жыл бұрын
Yep correct
@freakingemu
@freakingemu 3 жыл бұрын
I would really like an update on CETA. A similar agreement between the EU and Canada
@AaronOkeanos
@AaronOkeanos 3 жыл бұрын
It's unworkable and I can proof it with a single question: How man lorries are traveling between Canada and the EU every day?
@paranoidrodent
@paranoidrodent 3 жыл бұрын
CETA has been provisionally in place since 2017 (i.e. free trade has been happening for the past 3 years). Canada, the EU and all EU states are signatories. Canada and 14 EU member states have ratified it so far. It's been slow to ratify in some EU nations but none have rejected the deal. Bizarrely, the UK ratified CETA after voting to leave the EU but prior to actually leaving so currently Canada and the UK have free trade under CETA. One presumes the UK hopes to essentially perpetuate the terms the EU was able to get Canada to agree to. I'm not certain our negotiators will treat an economy less than double ours quite as generally as one over ten times the size of ours but it's a starting point, I suppose. Unlike the TTIP negotiations, Canada is heavily oriented towards free trade (less protectionist than the US) and lacked the economic leverage or ideological stance to try to bully the EU. Canada (under either major political party) is happy to work out mutually beneficial free trade deals. I've heard other civil servants who helped work on CETA speak well of their EU counterparts (tough negotiators but fair-minded, seeking mutual benefit without giving up their interests). CETA has so far survived scrutiny by the German Constitutional Court (compatible in principle with German Basic Law - awaiting final decision) and the dispute resolution system in CETA was found to be compatible with EU law (Belgium requested the court's opinion). Odds are that if some provision of CETA is found to be legally problematic, Canada would be open to reasonable amendments. Canada's not a land of angels or anything but it's in our own best interest to be cooperative and reasonable on trade and we prefer to keep good relations with the EU since we share a lot of common values. We're also very aware of how our southern neighbour is perceived and we don't work that way (for both practical reasons and due to differences in national character). We're a lot more like the Aussies or Kiwis in a lot of ways (which makes sense historically - former Dominions and all that) although lately I've been feeling a lot of empathy for Ireland (tied to a big neighbour that's acting strangely lately). Both CETA and CPTPP are seen as major trade deals that, along with our many bilateral trade deals and the Canada-EFTA deal, help diversify our trade which is obviously heavily centered around the US and to a lesser degree Mexico (NAFTA and now CUSMA/USMCA... seriously, the deal has two names in English plus a Spanish and French name, with each country's name coming first in the name used in each nation... it's absurd... North American made so much more sense). Neither CETA nor CPTPP are perfect deals but both are generally viewed as fair on the Canadian side and the negotiations were far more respectful than the recent North American trade renegotiation was (our foreign minister, now deputy prime minister, had the delight of being "that nasty woman" for a while in Trump's twitter rants). CETA led to Canada adopting IP provisions that comply with EU norms, including the place of origin stuff. My workplace was directly impacted and we began enforcing a large number of EU protected designation of origin. A series of acceptable "generic" terms were agreed upon for Canadian-made cheeses made in the same style as their European counterparts (e.g. Parmesan is not a protected term but the Italian designated term is protected). Feta in particular was a stumbling block because there really isn't a good generic term so they settled on "Feta style" or "Feta type" cheese (when I was a kid in Quebec, all the Feta in the groceries was either local or Danish). I think that Canada may have negotiated a few protected designations for a handful of iconic products but I'm not sure. That would be stuff the EUIPO and Canadian companies operating in the EU would have to enforce. The deal includes mutual recognition in many regulated professions and of diplomas and such. In layman's terms, both sides recognize that the other have acceptable educational and professional standards. The agricultural elements of the deal were the most controversial on both sides (our local farmers, particularly dairy farmers, were raising a fuss about it until they got distracted by the North American deal which scares them far more). That being said, my understanding is that since Canada generally has stricter food standards than the US, there was some harmonizing and obviously anything going to the EU has to meet EU standards. Taking the chlorinated chicken for example. Yes, it is a legal practice in Canada (not required by law but simply an accepted antimicrobial treatment - the US is next door and we both sell each other meat) but Canadian poultry producers trying to export to the EU would need to prepare their EU-bound product to EU specification. No one here is deluded into thinking we'd force the EU to lower standards. If anything, the deal made us improve some of our standards to harmonize. Here's the federal government guidelines for agricultural exports to the EU: www.agr.gc.ca/eng/international-trade/market-intelligence/exporting-your-agri-food-to-the-european-union/?id=1438016065006 In local stores here, I suspect the cheapest chicken is probably chlorinated but I would expect the "Free-from" premium organic stuff to not be. All that being said, I'm not sure we export much chicken to Europe. Beef perhaps. Wheat definitely, particularly durum (apparently our climate is great for the preferred wheat for pasta).
@paranoidrodent
@paranoidrodent 3 жыл бұрын
@@AaronOkeanos The lorries do find it a touch wet, yes. However, the containers being pulled by the lorries seem to do alright on container ships and in the first year of CETA being provisionally in force, container traffic at the Port of Montreal (the main Atlantic container port for Canada) was up about 20% (almost all of the increase being EU trade). I'm noticing more variety in the European goods on store shelves too (and the European cheeses are competitively priced too). I'm even seeing European baked goods on shelves (although I'm a bit leery of just how much preservative would be needed to cross the ocean and still have a good shelf life). Happy to get some nice charcuterie though.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
@@paranoidrodent very interesting comment, ty! Fun fact, since u mentioned Feta from Denmark. When the EU Court decided, that Feta was a protected term, and the cheese had to be made in Greece to be called Feta, it was renamed here in Denmark, its now called "salad cubes". I know, silly name. We still call it Feta, when we talk, its made in the exact same way as the Greek Feta, looks the same, tastes the same. Ah, well. Its just words. At least we now know, if we buy champagne, it really IS from the French region of Champagne 😜
@paranoidrodent
@paranoidrodent 3 жыл бұрын
@@dfuher968 Trade deals can get a little absurd in the details, yeah. Everyone still calls it feta in everyday speech here too but labeling is a small price to pay. I think a lot of Canadians these days are looking to the EU and thinking "you guys seem mostly sane" (and a lot of the Anglosphere is looking a bit mad except our fellow former Dominions in the southern hemisphere). If things stay nuts down south and nothing comes of the CANZUK movement, I wouldn't be surprised to see us drifting intentionally closer to the EU. We're culturally closer to Western Europe than much of the Americas.
@popelgruner595
@popelgruner595 3 жыл бұрын
This is the TLDR News EU channel, right? So why are you using the UK as the sole sample besides the UK has left the EU for over half a year now? Wouldn't it be more suitable to use EU examples in an EU channel?
@thesherbet
@thesherbet 3 жыл бұрын
EU is an abbreviation of Europe just as much as it is of the European Union for a start. Not to mention that for the entire duration of the subject in question, the UK certainly was part of the UK.
@popelgruner595
@popelgruner595 3 жыл бұрын
@@thesherbet No, it is not. EU is as much of an abbreviation for Europe as is US for North America. Where did you get that nonsense from?
@Doom1981
@Doom1981 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with all this deals are the investor protection clauses. The job of a government is to regulate and protect its people and the environment and sometimes to the disadvantage of businesses, they have to include this possibilities in their risk adjustments before they invest. With these protections you render risk adjustments obsolete and guarantee the profits.
@bjornvideler7899
@bjornvideler7899 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this was supposed to be the EU channel? It has such a big focus on the NHS and the UK even though I'm subscribed to this channel for an EU point of view...
@Warrenbowser3
@Warrenbowser3 3 жыл бұрын
Hi
@nicodesmidt4034
@nicodesmidt4034 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Fred
@oisnowy5368
@oisnowy5368 3 жыл бұрын
The whole TTIP debacle was a great way of finding out why it's good to not be an american. It's great for the union to discover why it should be proud of itself and its achievements. The better approach is to set up many other trade agreements with loads of other nations (as we have done already and the british will eventually find out about come january first). Then those trade agreements will eventually morph into de-facto standards. Americans can then join the civilized world once they know how to behave.
@dfuher968
@dfuher968 3 жыл бұрын
@oiSnowy exactly! And it was a nice cherry on top to be able to tell the Orange One and his minions, that the EU doesnt negotiate with a gun to our heads, bye-bye. That guy just cant handle it, when some1 cant be bullied. "Best negotiator in the world" lol, he knows only 1 way to "negotiate", and thats to bully and threated, and when that doesnt work, he whines about unfairness and takes his ball and goes home to sulk, while claiming he didnt want that anyway. Gotta say, I devoted a bit of time to really enjoying that b4 rejoining the ranks of grown-ups and appreciating it for the right reasons 😜
@remconoordermeer7015
@remconoordermeer7015 3 жыл бұрын
oiSnowy Brutally correct assessment, wel said!
@Bobelponge123
@Bobelponge123 3 жыл бұрын
Europe isn’t civilized. Y’all stopped colonizing and murdering Africans only a generation ago and critize American police for doing half of what y’all did
@didierlemoine6771
@didierlemoine6771 3 жыл бұрын
Because America hs aback in time standard compare to EU world standard, and food is the first one, cars r another exemple !
@andrewfilipowicz6208
@andrewfilipowicz6208 3 жыл бұрын
Currently in the United States regulations regarding the number of chickens which can be killed per minute has been increased at the same time the number of meat inspectors has been substantially decreased, one inspector no matter how good can handle a kill rate of such a number. And it explains the need to wash meat in chlorine. EU food standards are high we should not as a for a small individual increase in wealth give them up but work to raise US standards to an acceptable level.
@GH-oi2jf
@GH-oi2jf 3 жыл бұрын
Andrew Filipowicz - Only about 10% of US chicken is treated with chlorine. You don’t have to buy it. You don’t have to buy any US chicken. Chicken can be raised anywhere.
@sully9767
@sully9767 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't simply right for the EU to walk away, it was imperative. Bowing to the demands of uber capitalist and neo-fascist Trump could not and should never have been in the cards, for the safety and welfare of EU citizens.
@Berek71182
@Berek71182 3 жыл бұрын
First: The Risk are not overesmitated. That's what the masses should think. But coorparation with USA(republican)help are evil by nature. If they spot a legal (or illigel) loophole or oppertunity to increase their gain while sacrificing the health/benefits for the average human beiing-> they take it. Not to mention the problem cause by china inteference in US and Britich companies, combined with reckless german companies like "Deutsche Bank" and "VW". Second: The estimates benefits are shallow. They are just numbers, statistic made by mathematician who don't calculate the cost/lose of health and problems like pollution etc. Third: Large agrement should serve people and progress if they can. The USA is far behind the EU in ethics and culture. THe EU got social heathcare since 1883. The EU got regulation for abortion while USA is still arguing like 150 hundread years ago. EU is secular, while USA is full of religoius nutheads. EU got healthregulation like "Maximum amount of sugar" or "test medica and drugs first before you sell them". The TTIP can only work in ONE direction: the USA MUST accept the progress of the EU and get to it's level, while abandoning the idea of the ISDS.
@jaystrickland4151
@jaystrickland4151 3 жыл бұрын
The risk were really over inflated.
@westboy84
@westboy84 3 жыл бұрын
Do the CETA as a comparison point!
@stuartschaffner9744
@stuartschaffner9744 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry if I missed something in all this, but didn't Brexit render any TTIP negotiations involving the UK obsolete on Jan 31?
@AaronOkeanos
@AaronOkeanos 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. This video was the first of two. And it's correctly here because while it was discussed UK was still a member. However the problems of TTIP have not gone away, they now popup again in the UK-US trade negotiations. The smaller version of TTIP so to speak. And this one is on the other channel.
@diogosantos8763
@diogosantos8763 3 жыл бұрын
To be honest I agree with such a deal and I think it would be greatly beneficial for both parties IF said problems were fixed.
@TheTrackRecord
@TheTrackRecord 3 жыл бұрын
One on MERCOSUR or Japan would be interesting.
@mweskamppp
@mweskamppp 3 жыл бұрын
Was a difficult thing. Two of the three big players in world economy doing some harmonizing of standards when both are trying to set their own standards in their area of influence. Some can be done. Some can't. Is was put on hold with the last presidential election in the USA and not put up by the new administration in Washington. There would always be the possibility for minor agreements. The big deal - not so much.
@metacooler5947
@metacooler5947 3 жыл бұрын
Do the EU Japan Trade Deal
@kiradotee
@kiradotee 3 жыл бұрын
7 minutes ago!!! Never been here so early. 🤣 Morning, Jack. 👋
@joshuaking2171
@joshuaking2171 3 жыл бұрын
You should talk about cornavirues recovery fund and that the EU is divided
@Leicht_Sinn
@Leicht_Sinn 3 жыл бұрын
well now they got a bit in the right direction so it will get there but only slowly
@thierryf67
@thierryf67 3 жыл бұрын
It's already difficult to find an agreement within Europe members (see the Brexit, even if UK has always be one foot in one foot out of UE...). So with our so different ally US... I think we don't have the same approach and vision on too many subjects. We can be friends, but not enough to leave in the same home.
@danielsteinberg7416
@danielsteinberg7416 3 жыл бұрын
What's about TiSA and CPTPP" especially the British try to join it?
@MickyAvStickyHands
@MickyAvStickyHands 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine JP Morgan Chase buying Buckingham Palace.
@srinivasmetta2852
@srinivasmetta2852 3 жыл бұрын
Worth it
@romainsenior8054
@romainsenior8054 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t find US video on subject
@nadinefeiler9204
@nadinefeiler9204 3 жыл бұрын
The risks where not even fully explored . TTIP would have bbeen a catastrophe for everyone but the top 1% and big companies
@ilkeracar6567
@ilkeracar6567 3 жыл бұрын
What about canada food standards ?
@frankdehobbit8989
@frankdehobbit8989 3 жыл бұрын
The first place I heard about TTIP was Zonag met Lubach. Who else?
@ChadWSmith
@ChadWSmith 3 жыл бұрын
I can tell you, from experience, Kentucky Fried Bratwurst is pretty good.
@somethinglikethat2176
@somethinglikethat2176 3 жыл бұрын
That's going on the bucket list.
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