👍 i like it. Good Job

@@CalebNorthNorman Thanks!

@@HistoryHustle So welcome

Why did you delete my comment that I made several minutes ago? Its because you did not like what I wrote?

@@chipo8877 YT deletes a lot of comments by itself. If you wrote harsh language or hate-speech I also might have deleted it.

Very interesting to read. Thanks for sharing.

It is very painful when you are forced to leave your home. Many cities in Germany commemorate this. A lot of orphans came long way.

How easy it is to forget who started WWII, and what Germans did to occupied nations. So, don't make aggressors a victims. OK.

@@mirektobiasz7420 Politicians started the war, ordinary people suffer. Cities bombed, Warsaw, Dresden, Rotterdam, Danzig, Coventry, Hamburg, Liverpool, Berlin, the list goes on

​@@Steve14psordinary Germans supported Hitler. Don't forget about it.

Thanks for sharing.

Well they should have ''witnessed'' what Germans did in Sobidor, Auschwitz, Bergen Belsen. What happened to them was nothing.

Being ethnic Germans(not Nazis though), My Grandmother took my Mom and 2 sisters and escaped Danzig in 1945. My Grandfather was marched off to Siberia. He escaped and eventually found his family in Germany at a Red Cross camp. My Mom was only 7 in '45 but the trauma was carried by her for a lifetime. The Russia generals took over my Grandmother's house and made her cook for them. The Russians would get drunk and point guns at them all the time. They raped everybody. I went with her in the mid 90s back to Gdansk (formerly Danzig). First time back for her and she remembered everything like it was yesterday. She remembered the songs the German soldiers sang as they were marched off to Siberia. She pointed at trees where people were hanged and remembered the hellfire that consumed the city as it was bombed into oblivion. The stories were just incredible. She ended up in the US.

@@Kris-ek1id Not nazis? ROFLOL. The German in Gdansk elected a pro Nazi government in 1937.

@@Kris-ek1id it's almost like if you invade a country and kill off 13% of their population, they'll get mad! No sympathy for germans.

Er ist sogar noch mal in den Heiligenbeiler Kessel geflogen....

@@rosesprog1722 it makes me feel awful.

@@user-ue4nq3kc3j Then don't be? It's just worrying when you hear about the things that happened and you supposedly feel nothing for them. That's worrying, as a human, to feel nothing as you hear accounts of brutal rape, murder and soldiers of the Red army looking on and laughing. Yet you feel nothing? Worrying and actually leaves me a bit disturbed. Yes, some probably supported the regime. The regime did terrible things unthinkable things. That in no way justifies these horrors, just as nothing can justify what the German regime did. NOBODY deserves this treatment, Germans, Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, NOBODY does. If you feel nothing for the victims, fine. But just know that the Germans probably felt the same when commiting their own numerous atrocities. No sympathy, just thinly veiled justification. Now, I come from a German family. So maybe I feel more personal about this just as someone who is from Eastern Europe may, but we should look beyond that and all agree of the atrocious nature of these acts and aim to be better.

@@user-ue4nq3kc3j Also, reading further into what you said... Justice? If that's your idea of justice then just don't continue replying because I won't justify any reply with my own. I personally find that horrendous.

@@rosesprog1722 "It should have been Mihailović." Well that is shocking and shows that you know nothing about Balkans during WW2. He was a Nazi colaborator and commited some of the worst crimes in Yugoslavia. Dozens of my familly members were forced into a mosque and then burned alive by his forces for example. Do you really think that British would have supported Communists if Mihailović who was a royalist didn't colaborate with Nazis and commit brutal war crimes.

@@rosesprog1722 I wouldn't bother responding to someone who would justify war crimes so blatantly.

Your ptofessor was right. Using the term Holocaust for the nGermans should be a no no. And let us not forget that Gunther Grass served in the Waffen SS.

@@patriciabrenner9216 What did the jews do after the Holocaust? Where did they go? And, what did they do there?

@@houssemmasri9861 They went to their country of Israel and developed it something no Arab country ever did. The colonizers that came with Omar can go back to Arabia.

@@patriciabrenner9216 That's why i'm at least neutral about the Nazis

@@houssemmasri9861 Oh that Arabs were allies of the Nazis, we know. As despicable. And I love that you the Egyptiands have lost 4 wars against the Yahood. My husband was stationed for months in Faid.

Harrowing account. Thanks for sharing.

If that was your grandmother imagine the Jews, Poles, Russians, handicapped people, gays....... Those were brutally tortured and killed by Germans.

@@mirquellasantos2716 disgusting how you just jump over one misery to point out another. BUT Stalin is proud of you I guess maybe you join him in hell

​@@mirquellasantos2716agree with you. Aggressors portraited as victims. Didn't they welcome their fuhrer when Free City of Danzig was "reunited" with Reich.

And of course, they didn't know anything about concentration camps.

Thanks for sharing.

Fine. They got exactly what the German planes did when people fled Warsaw.

Der FSB wurde zum 75. Jahrestag der Gründung der Region freigegeben und an die Regionalarchive übergeben. Die Gräueltaten der Deutschen werden in Gang gesetzt. Ein wesentlicher Teil der veröffentlichten Dokumente zeugt von den Verbrechen der deutschen Nationalsozialisten gegen die Gefangenen der Lager. Auf dem Gebiet Ostpreußens gab es fast fünfzig Lager (auch für Kriegsgefangene), von denen sich 17 in Königsberg befanden. Insbesondere monströse Gräueltaten wurden von den Deutschen im ostpreußischen Zweig des Konzentrationslagers Stutthof, einer großen "Todesfabrik", begangen. Das Lager Stutthof, fünfzig Kilometer von der polnischen Stadt Danzig entfernt, wurde am 2. September 1939, einen Tag nach Ausbruch des Zweiten Weltkriegs, gegründet. Hitlers Ärzte verwendeten Gefangene als Testpersonen in ihren Experimenten und stellten Seife aus menschlichem Fett her. Ein Stück solcher Seife wurde später bei den Nürnberger Prozessen als Beispiel für die Wildheit der Nazis gezeigt. Stutthof hatte mehrere Dutzend Niederlassungen auf dem Gebiet des polnischen Pommern, Ostpreußens und Ostpommerns. Die brutalen Massaker an den Deutschen gegen die Zivilbevölkerung werden in einer Sonderbotschaft erwähnt, die von Oberst Isaac Iofis verfasst wurde, der vom Volkskommissariat für innere Angelegenheiten der UdSSR für die 43. Armee autorisiert wurde und an den NKWD gerichtet ist, der für die 1. Baltische Front, den für Sicherheit zuständigen Kommissar Ivan, zuständig ist Tkachenko (der später den Regimedienst des ersten sowjetischen Unternehmens zur Gewinnung von Plutonium für Atomwaffen in der Stadt Tscheljabinsk-40, heute Ozersk, leitete). Wie Iofis berichtete, wurden am 15. Februar 1945 in der Nähe der Stadt Kumenen in Ostpreußen über hundert brutal gefolterte Zivilisten - Russen, Juden, Franzosen, Rumänen - in einer Waldschlucht gefunden, und die Mehrheit der Getöteten waren Frauen von 18 bis 35 Jahren. In den Taschen einiger der Getöteten befand sich spärliches Essen - kleine Kartoffelknollen, Hafer, Weizenkörner und Becher, Tassen und Holzlöffel waren an ihren Gürteln festgebunden. Wie von einer Sonderkommission festgelegt, handelte es sich um KZ-Häftlinge. Es stellte sich heraus, dass alle von den Deutschen "während des hastigen Rückzugs der Deutschen unter dem Ansturm der Roten Armee" erschossen wurden.

@@romanalexandrovich9785 My Husband's aunt was in Stutthof... :-(

@@patriciabrenner9216 I feel sorry for her, such things should never repeat again.

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Have you ever noticed that the crime of certain peoples is always the fault of all humanity, even when it is only they who do it?

​@@charles2521which crime have only germans committed?

@od3685 I'm trying to help you think with your head, not to manipulate you. Pay attention to the pattern that the narrative "this is a problem for all of humanity" is only used to refer to the problems of a specific people. But false accusations used to defame other people, even when they are psychological projections, are never considered "problems of humanity".

Thanks for sharing, hard times these were.

Innocent? No German was innocent.

Interesting comment. Just call yourself lucky you weren’t born in Germany in 1925 then.

@@peterl5804 As a Jew, wouldn't have changed my vision of Germany!

But following your own logic you’d be guilty as a person born German, as you suggest that ethnicity rather than personal behaviour makes you guilty or not. That it a bizarrely nationalist way of looking at the world.

Thanks for your comment. Do understand that many East Prussians did support Hitler. And don't forget to bigger suffering of the Eastern Europeans at the hands of the Nazis.

It was true that a majority (56.5%) of East Prussians for the NSDAP in the March 1933 election. But it was also true that a majority of Hannoverians (54.3%) voted for the NSDAP, and they got to keep their land after the war.

actually i learned about it school. We had an entire section of our book dedicated to it. Of course we talked more about the stuff the nazis did because that was obviously worse. But our goverment said that kicking people of their land, where some of them probably fought against the nazis, is worth mentioning.

@@lukei6255 dafuq

The Germans suffered during the war because they started the war. They never would have suffered if they did not start the war. They were not martyrs in this. Equivocating between their suffering and the suffering the inflicted on others only shows your allegiance to them and your approval of the crimes of Nazi Germany. Nothing more. Nothing less. Nothing else. You are on the wrong side of history. You lost. You deserved to lose. The whole world knows this. Get over it.

My grandfather was born in Memel in 1942

Where do they live now? Where did the majority of East Prussians, Silesians and Pomeranians settle after the war?

@@krakataukrakatau9137 my great grandfather had no home to go back to and didn't get recompensed for lost property there, he was working in the UK as a POW after being transferred by the soviets and just stayed in the UK

@@krakataukrakatau9137: Our family were from East Prussia and Pomerania and they spread themselves across mostly West Germany while my parents moved to Canada. When I visited and lived for a year in Germany in the early 1970s our relatives were spread across Germany from Schleswig-Holstein to the Pfalz (Palatinate) a relative had even settled in communist East Berlin, I wasn't allowed to visit them. Oddly no close relatives settled in Bavaria. My fathers family was expelled from Posen Province following WW1, opa finally found a job and died before the war in Kolberg but in 1945 my oma was forced to flee again this time from Kolberg on the last German ship evacuating civilians and any surviving soldiers. I know that she never killed ANYBODY!! My fathers best friend and my godfather who also emigrated to Canada after WW2 was originally from Allenstein!

European refugees get torpedoed, everyone else gets put up in a hotel and free meals and wifi.

The brutalities in East Prussia were different because revenge played a role (so did it against Hungary).

Indeed.

German civilians cheered the war while the Germans were murdering millions of civilians. They deserve zero pity.

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Would love of being teached by this guy so much I dident no about some of these subjects thank you very much my freind keep up the good work 👍

Chances are you already had a remarkable teacher. You just didn't realize it.

@@Janko630 None of my teachers edited youtube videos on their spare time

That's true, but this video is about East Prussia.

@@HistoryHustle you suggested that it was done out of revenge for Nazi atrocities.

And that's true. It doesn't mean other women were safe.

Thanks for your reply.

Something for a future video.

Indeed.

Yes I read that too. Memel just north of Konigsberg, a living hell for German civilians and soldiers

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Never excused. I explain. Thats a difference.

The guilty didn't pay. This is why I applaud revenge which Bacon defined as wild justice.

Thanks for watching.

Yes, indeed. I had a great stay there.

I study geography and one of my lessons is about how the lakes were formed by glaciers

This is the town I was born in. Beautiful place to grow, study and work.

Many weren't indeed.

Because red army were controlled by Zionist

@@robrobski9445 oh an antisemite... They are all around.

Incidentally, German communists and Jews were not spared interrogation, torture and imprisonment in the camps, because anyone who showed a KPD membership card or a Jewish star was immediately accused of collaborating with the Nazis, because otherwise they could no longer be alive, according to the NKVD.

⁠@@patriciabrenner9216Oh, a member of the tribe which took over Russia. They are all around.

Thanks for sharing.

This of course is false. The people of East Prussia looted the wealth of theor Polish and Jewish neighbors, voted in majority for the Nazis etc. They were criminals. They paid, not enough.

I understand. Thanks for replying.

Yes maybe how Russians were treated or Poles. How Germany looted the whole of Europe.

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Thanks for your response.

Horrific end to a 1000 year old civilisation. Not a peep of an apology from the Soviets or Russians

@@Wolf-hh4rv извинения? Только сожаления что Сталин проявил милосердие и не стер Германию с лица земли. Что б больше никакая зараза оттуда не лезла.

@@Wolf-hh4rv Well shouldn't have invaded us

@@sacWeapons Still tragic. Over one million German civilians killed by bombing, a tragedy. That 4 year child burned alive

Thanks for sharing your insights.

What do you mean with democracy? The NSDAP was the only party left, how is this democracy?

@@Ghreinos Before that it was a democracy and in Pomerania and East Prussia the NSDAP had the most votes. The peasants, for example, voted for the NSDAP because it gave them advantages.

@@annivlaflipfan9184 Yes, but in the state parliament they only got a majority after banning all other parties. And yes you are right, most just wanted a stable Germany.

Warum sie erst jetzt Groll gegen deutsche haben und früher nicht ist komisch. Es gab schon Bombenangriffe auf Stettin und nicht zu vergessen der tragische 1944 im August der Briten auf Königsberg mit modernsten Brandstrahlbomben, die Engländer flogen über Schwedisches Gebiet. Ca 5000 Königsberger starben etwa 200000 wurden Obdachlos.

Thanks as always, Niklas!

Thanks Holly.

I understand. Thanks for your response. Hope you found the video interesting.

Thanks

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You're welcome, thanks for your message.

Thanks for sharing your inisights on this.

Soviet atrocities? Mild, compared to the barbarian SS fanatics who killed millions of innocent Russian civilians and buried them en mass in huge trenches dug by the victims themselves. If you don't believe me check out the films the Germans shot themselves and laughing while watching their helpless victims crawl in horror.

@@IK-so2bm Check out the Katyn Massacre, if you think soviet attrocities were so mild.

@@TheFoxyPlayer Or Polish Action by NKVD

@@TheFoxyPlayer bingo. As an example

Yes, also Poles fell victim to the Soviets.

Thank you for sharing this.

Tell us about the Jews your grandfather killed, who did not escape.

Hmmmm... so your grandpa was a Nazi?

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@Angel Navarro true

which ones do we mean in this case?

@@abuzuhm the ones that were committed by the us,french and british you know the ones that don't get talked about alot

@@Pain-of-the-akatsuki Cool. I know what you mean.It would definitely be a good video topic.

@@Pain-of-the-akatsuki You are talking about the side that did not start the war? Known as the allies?

Thanks for sharing this.

Memmel is now part of Lithuania and I believe Klaipeda is the largest city in what was previously called Memmelland. Maybe you should travel to it and check it out 😊

Yes the Population of Memel suffered horrors as the Soviets surrounded the town. In Guy Sajer’s book he describes the carnage when a boat filled with civilian refugees was hit by a shell.

It lost land in the east and was carved up. Now it's reunited.

More than Poland and USSR??? I dont think so.

@@lothar3610 ussr Was the bad guy

@Marko Topic shut up serb

@@bayern1445 considering what the Nazis did at the balkans i can understand that

Me too.

Prussia indeed is off the map.

Prussia also gave the militarism to Germany. It is just it disappeared.

They never were put to rest in Eastern Europe.

@@patriciabrenner9216 my point exactly

@@Larkinchance with the fall of communism, what were latent hatred came out to the surface. Just look at what happened in Yugoslavia! Western Europe dealt with the hatred. Eastern Europe didn't.

@@patriciabrenner9216 Ms Brenner, that's a good question. Yugoslavia charted a separate course from Russia but they were both authoritarian... More to the point, why did NATO go into Serbia and Bosnia?

Thanks for your reply and I agree.

Thanks for your reply.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.

Fair point.

probably had seen and done alot worse back in the soviet union no suprise for them at all

@@bernardobiritiki Yes, there is no way they participated in the invasion of the soviet union and didn't expect something like this to happen

@@MrKakibuy even the civilians many of witch had family memeber fighting in the eastern frount, probably had some picture of the monstrosities going on in the east by the hand of the german army. You dont need to be very smart to know those people would want revenge

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Agree. I made this statement because of many dumb one-sides comments that appear where people overlook the German warcrimes and only blame the Soviets. Anyhow, the dumb polarized comments did appear anyway.

@@HistoryHustle Evil requires a penalty, after the WWI Germany did not get a serious penalty, so they started the WWII, during the WWII penalty was mostly painful (mainly bombardment), so now nobody in Germany happily thoughts about the WWIII.

@@nowy5 Both wars were started by Austria Prove me wrong.

@@fordhipo1493 You are wrong.

@@nowy5 Germans had no more fault in WW1 then anyone else did. WW1 started when serbian nationalists killed the Austro-Hungarian achduke. Then Austria declared war on Serbia and the Russia joined the war to help Serbia so Germany joined the war to help Austria-Hungary. How was WW1 the germans fault

Thanks for the additional information. See if I can check the movie you refer to!

Just watched the movie. Indeed a good movie, but intense to watch yes.

@@HistoryHustle I'm glad you liked it!

yep, ALL Prussian Peoples suffered

Funnily enough, most of the Masurians also fled to Germany. Even after 1945 many left Poland in the following decades. I even know one personally who left with her family in the 70ies.

Thanks!

Thanks!

Thanks for watching.

Thanks for sharing!

Hallo, Otto - it's just terrible what the poles and other allies committed against our Volk! I am so sorry to read about your Oma, and what happened. I love our Volk more than ever, Otto - may your Oma, rest in peace.

Koch retreated indeed. Love to cover the battle for Königsberg on location some day.

@stephengoodwin6403 I would put the word "brave" in inverted commas. ;)

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He did, and kept a naval craft on standby to evacuate him from Pillau should the Red army ever come near. While he exhorted the military and civilians in Koenigsberg to fight on and never yield an inch of ground, he himself lived lavishly and safely at Pillau. Today, in Koenigsberg, there is a museum in the command bunker of General Lasch, the military commander in Koeninsberg, where the defence of the city was planned. The Russian guides speak respectfully of Lasch, a brave man who never deserted his post or his troops, but are rightly disparaging of Koch, a coward who was captured after the war and spent the rest of his lie in prison in Poland.

Yes indeed. Thanks for sharing.

Think it's more nuanced.

Yes, 9,400 people died, the most ever for a single ship sinking. That is about the same as the sinking of six Titanic's - where in comparison 1,500 lost their lives.

A tragedy indeed.

Not the only ship that sank. There was another nearly as loaded as the Gustav & several other smaller ones. The Gustav & the other large ship both sunk.

Thank you!

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Bedankt, Jeroen!

Thanks for watching.

Okay, thanks. I'm decreasing the music recently.

Feel free to share! :)

Yes, here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNKDi8Sbrc-0hYk.html Differs. Few words.

Thank you!

Thank Jan, it was a great trip!

Only Poland since 1945.

​@@mercomaniawell, not really.

Well really, when did was this region in a country called Poland?@@mariusd8649

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1939 By the outbreak of war the city has rapidly grown to the 6th largest in Poland with the 12th largest population of over 120,000 people. September 1st - 19th sees a heroic defence of the city. Nazi Germany incorporates Gdynia to the Reich, expels the local population and renames the city Gotenhafen. So its name was always Gdynia and I would guess your family preyed on the property of expelled Poles or murdered Jews.

@@patriciabrenner9216 My grandfather was half Polish. He was held by the Gestapo for three days. They killed his best friend who was a Captain in the Polish Navy. The war years were certainly no grand time for him as you would so luridly imagine. Sorry to disappoint you.

@@mayormc then why did he run? They didn't expell Poles.

@@patriciabrenner9216 Why is it that you so desperately want to see the worst in people based on so little information?

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Yeah your right...

@@HistoryHustle the Soviets committing war crimes because of Nazi war crimes

Great read.

Because that is not the scope of this video. See title. I mention in the video the atrocities done by the Germans but the focus in 1944-45.

Thanks!

Koch fled yes. He was ended up in jail and wasn't executed despite being in charge of occupied Ukraine and largely responsible for the horrors committed there.

@@HistoryHustle And he was not executed because of the beginning of the Cold War. That would require his extradition to a potential enemy and Americans could not allow it.

@@zosimus2.18i2 Look up "Peck Panel." The German-American communities morally opposed any acts of justice against German war criminals and they were largely successful in influencing authorities to as nany reduce prison sentences as possible.

What do you mean by 'looking what his point is?' He's reporting, not arguing. Also noone doubts the evils of the Nazi regime during ww2. Still, one evil doesn't justify the other. While I definitely understand the hatred of the red army towards the German population, rape and murder is still evil.

A polarized subject this seems to be. History is about exploring the details. You can consider it a science. It can also be a moral compass. One could argue that the Soviets had "the right" to take revenge on the Germans. I refrain from such statements. I do not believe in revenge. I explain it as why it happened. Therefore it can be understood. Whether a person then states this was 'the right thing' is up to him or her.

Didn't know this. Still have to see the movies.

No he wasn't correct. Bot fighting Germany would have led to a New Order in which millions of people would perish and live under tyranny, even worse than the USSR.

@@HistoryHustle No don't think so

@@georgschmidt4670 God punished USA for its crimes against humanity. You're now 3rd world country.

USA after war gave a shelter to more nazis than they killed them in war. So americans did not fight wrong enemy they are same as nazis nowadays we see that clearly.

​@@HistoryHustleyes he was correct and you Danes would have been speaking Russian if not for Germany defending Europe from the Communist hordes. You are ignorant.

Foreign, hostile troops entered the territory of Poland and murderous foreign governments ruled. You would try to live here for a while, maybe then whatever you would know and understand. There is a prospect that when ISIS installs its caliphates for you, then you will feel what bondage means....

@@Karakulimbro how is this connected to my comment?

Love to cover more of these border areas.

@@HistoryHustle I would be very grateful if you could find something about it

Thanks for sharing.

Most of the Sudeten Germans approved the taking by the Nazis of the area. So they were properly expelled by the Czech as traitors.

Believe I mention this.. but if not there you go.

Thanks and yes, Memelland was taken by the Germans in WW2 and is now part of Lithuania.

@@HistoryHustle true,.but the area was part of East Prussia until 1919,when it gained the same status under Treaty of Versailles as say,Saar..in fact it was Prussian from I believe 15th century. My partner, she is from this area of modern Lithuania and loved your presentation. Cannot wait for more Hustles of history..

Yeah but to be fair, Memelland was heavily populated by Lithuanians

@@bruderspatzlemitso930 only after this territory was handed to Lithuania-when part of East Prussia,it was made up of :Poles;German`s and Lithuanian- that`s coming from my partner,she is Lithuanian/Russian/German(from the Soviet days)

Die deutschen haben dort Niederdeutsch gesprochen

If I would make such a video, I would make that on location. As of now I have no plans of travelling due to Covid :(

Yes europeans were even crazier back then

I see.

Thanks and welcome to the channel!

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"atrocities" -- what utter tosh!

Says a user named Erich von Manstein...

@@HistoryHustle Why does that matter?

Appreciate your reply!

One could argue that the Soviets had "the right" to take revenge on the Germans. I refrain from such statements. I do not believe in revenge. I explain it as why it happened. Therefore it can be understood. Whether a person then states this was 'the right thing' is up to him or her.

Sure children as guilty, everyone that didn't was a Nazi is guilty...

One could argue that the Soviets had "the right" to take revenge on the Germans. I refrain from such statements. I do not believe in revenge. I explain it as why it happened. Therefore it can be understood. Whether a person then states this was 'the right thing' is up to him or her.

@ The children's ought to have known that this was going to happen. If you feel the need to blame anyone for .any harm that happened to the children, look at their parents. If it was bear season and you leave your children out at twilight and let them use honey and salmon as face lotion, don't blame the bears if your children get eaten.

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