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The event replay feature has a MAJOR issue | Game Talks

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RexiVT

RexiVT

Күн бұрын

Bare in mind that all that this series is simply me, looking at different aspects of games I cover and throwing out ideas, to see what others think.
Do you think that the event replay feature needs changes or do you think it is fine as it is, also let me know in the comments below.
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@charleywilson2146
@charleywilson2146 4 ай бұрын
This is probably the most non-issue that I’ve ever heard someone talk about…
@Malwik1
@Malwik1 4 ай бұрын
Real that's some next level nitpicking
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Currently I try to get one of those videos every Friday, some are bound to be more nit-picky than others.
@Derek147900
@Derek147900 4 ай бұрын
@RexiVTOfficial maybe don't fill your video catalog with garbage videos. Do you really think this one is helping your channel grow?
@Stormfire152
@Stormfire152 4 ай бұрын
this isn't even an issue at all
@k4fk4_
@k4fk4_ 4 ай бұрын
are you rly nitpicking something so unimportant?? This is not a major issue, you just want views bro.
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
After 12 videos on a weekly schedule, some are bound to be more nit-picky than others I can't deny that, still I knew not everyone would prefer the rotating events, which is why I included a section talking about possible improvements for the current system.
@solar195
@solar195 4 ай бұрын
Nah mate, I'm sorry, but you're trying really hard to find and fix a non-existent issue here
@youredoingoodlad6481
@youredoingoodlad6481 4 ай бұрын
who is "a lot of people"?
@copter2000
@copter2000 4 ай бұрын
Him, his lookalike in the mirror, his lookalike in the camera roll.
@TomeTomeTomeTome
@TomeTomeTomeTome 4 ай бұрын
As someone who started at launch, and stopped playing then came back a few months ago. I appreciate the feature, and honestly i dont feel any pressure to do em like when theyre active. IMHO it has pros and cons, sure i miss out on free stuff but the trade off being able to take breaks from playing is a godsend.
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
That is valid. I way overestimated how much people care for the rewards from the events.
@meiwasstruc2914
@meiwasstruc2914 4 ай бұрын
Events you've already done in the event replay feature are automatically put on the bottom of the list, meaning you won't get lost anyway Also, putting them on a biweekly rotation would make another problem in the long run since at some point you would have too many old events and then you'd have to ask "when are they gonna rerun this one" The current system works fine, and as there's currently only one FOMO item (the Silver Wolf lightcone), it can be easily fixed by making it obtainable in something like SU, and then never put FOMO items again unless it's in event that would be designed for the event replay feature
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
If it starts taking to long for certain events to come back than they can just increase the events per rotation, like they did with the character banners in Genshin. And by now not only do we have an unobtainable lightcone, but also tons of resources and jades. Additionally not all people will care about the events until they are fully done with the story quests, so sure one of the many events would be at the bottom of the list, but I still feel like a favourite event feature or a search bar would help.
@Derek147900
@Derek147900 4 ай бұрын
I really don't think having a long list of content to play is an issue. If you're new these won't all instantly unlock for you, you'll have to play through the story to do them and many are related to said story. Like you wouldn't get the Aetherium Wars until after you've done the J4 story. I would argue that if you are, like I was when HSR first came out, wanting to play more but was locked behind levels, trailblazer power, and such having content to do would mitigate this issue. As for the FOMO rewards, it's unfortunately part of what you get with F2P live service games. I would argue that the Before the Tutorial LC should be obtainable through the many means we have to obtain LCs such as Herta's shop, Forgotten mems, and even the Nameless Honor. But the same argument could be made for characters, 5 star LCs, and free character promotions. These games are built to reward players who consistently play over months and years. Yet still accessible enough that someone who only has a few days or weeks under their belt won't be hard locked behind pulls or require months of endless uncapped grinding to enjoy the game. Cycle content for players who weren't around when it came out would just make the whole thing a confusing mess. If the events were related then a new player could go months with nothing to do, because the content is unlocked way later, with the current events also being unlocked ways later. If they weren't related then it would be a mess of skipping forward and back in the side story. You would have more luck arguing that the character list should be changed. This isn't an issue.
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
That is assuming people will not focus on catching up with the main story. From my experience although there are level requirements for the story, they are not that hard to reach, if you just make sure that your stamina is spent, and you do a couple of side quests you should be able to play through the story no problem. Additionally big events like the Aetherium Wars happen after the main plot of the planet, and are more focused on individual characters. These feel like one offs that are loosely tied to the main plot. I wanted to put these events on a 2 week rotation so that you don't have to log in and grind every day, and even if you complete on of the events on rotation, it would not matter as it would come back with the same rewards, and if a certain event takes to long to appear, just increase the amount of events per rotation. I also don't think that having a long list of content is an issue, but it just being there without any way to sort it is an issue, so it was either put it on rotation, or give us a search bar, an ability to favourite them, or another great idea I saw in the comments was to sort them by location.
@t.v.1201
@t.v.1201 4 ай бұрын
not only is this a non-issue that no one has been complaining about but, you're revamp would be significantly worse. instead of maybe talking the couple extra seconds to scroll and click on the event you want to do, you have to wait 2 weeks just to maybe get the event you want to come back. not to mention for someone critising fomo, why would you make the consmetics that are currently available through the replay feature exclusive to the first run of the event. The only problems with the event replay is that the silver wolf event isn't on it and the lightcones and free four stars aren't availible.
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
I overestimated how much people care about the rewards. Missing out on cosmetics still encourages the players to complete the event when it first released, but at the end of the day cosmetics don't help you progress in the game, while resources and lightcones do creating a bigger fomo effect.
@cryingintomycoffee
@cryingintomycoffee 4 ай бұрын
It's literally not an issue? I might be falling for rage bait, but yeah nah? The checkmarks are good for showing what you've already finished, and it's just a matter of remembering where in the story it was. Or just. Scrolling a little. I love the feature and I'm glad I can go back and finish the tedious last bits of shit like the Foxian Tale.
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
If you prefer the current system that is valid. However I don't think that the events are actually permanent, as you can see in the video the event where you got the silver wolf lightcone is not on the list, and I am 99% sure it used to be there, I don't know if it disappeared only for me, or if these events aren't actually permanent. But if they really aren't permanent than having them on rotation would at least give you the chance to replay them.
@andrewm4815
@andrewm4815 4 ай бұрын
so you are telling me your solution is to make players wait x amount of time to replay a specific event?, so if i want to do the boulder town event i have to see when its coming back and then set my calendar to whatever date so i can do it with in those 2 weeks, and if i don't do it i now have to wait an even longer time period for next time?. You just made an non-issue an issue.
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
I think I over estimated how much people care about the rewards from these events. However I did notice something strange, as you can see in the video, the event where you got the silver wolf lightcone is not on the list of events, and I specifically remember it being there since I think it was the first ever replay able event, I don't know if it just disappeared for me or are they not actually permanent.
@andrewm4815
@andrewm4815 4 ай бұрын
​@@RexiVTOfficial yeah, losing on limited items does sucks, maybe they can add the lightcone back or something, but i would always prefer being able to do some type of content that not having anything todo, cause compared to genshin atleast, you get to do the event for something.
@HelsingSenpai
@HelsingSenpai 4 ай бұрын
just group the events by worlds/planets
@enderknight6073
@enderknight6073 4 ай бұрын
Not just a non-issue, he wants to make it worse...
@Carnaj90
@Carnaj90 4 ай бұрын
Are you REALLY complaining that they have all of the world building story/lore events replayable? This is a complete non-issue. As the game gets bigger, it's bound to have more story events. It would be idiotic to have only 2 or 3 rotating in the game. It would completely screw up the story's pacing to not have all of them and be able to play them in order. That's exactly why they introduced a feature that put ALL of the main quests and side quests in chronological order for us in a recent update.
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
As far as I can tell not all events that used to be replay able are replay able now, for example I remember the silver wolf event being replay able but it is no longer on the list (which you can see on the video), not only that I cannot find it anywhere in Fate's Atlas, additionally Hoyo has to consider that some people will not care about the events and complete the main quests as soon as possible, so most of the lore in the events is regarding the characters, not the main plot especially since events like the Aetherium Wars happen after the main plot of the planet, having more info on the characters could enhance the experience, but I think saying that not having it would completely screw up the pacing is a stretch.
@sspilex
@sspilex 4 ай бұрын
Bro saw free Ratio and really was like: Only 1? Why not 7, Also give me his Lightcone.
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
That is not what I meant, I wanted everyone to get the same rewards for the events regardless of if you do it when it was first released, or a year later when it is re-released so that we avoid situations like the silver wolf lightcone being unavailable. However if you did complete an event when it was first released, you would get a unique cosmetic eg. avatar, phone wallpaper, chat box etc.
@JaredSwift-oj6ee
@JaredSwift-oj6ee 4 ай бұрын
The first point doesn't matter as much because completed events filter to the bottom of the list and incomplete ones are always at the top. I do wish the rewards carried over though it would be nice to have the resins and sw lightcone.
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Is the silver wolf lightcone event replay able for you? I didn't even notice that it was completely gone for me.
@JaredSwift-oj6ee
@JaredSwift-oj6ee 4 ай бұрын
@@RexiVTOfficial Yeah it's not replayable sadly. That LC is so fucking good too it makes me a lil depressed lmao
@SethGreyy
@SethGreyy 4 ай бұрын
Fair point, but the fact that like 2/3 of the rewards are limited is honestly a much bigger issue for me. Especially more time consuming events, I ain't doing that shit for less than 800 gems lmao 💀💀
@yvindvego9404
@yvindvego9404 4 ай бұрын
its because hoyo wants you to log in and do the event. its a shitty thing for players who started playing starrail closer to 2.0, since they have missed out on some free light cones and 4 star characters. the event light cones should have been permanent at least.
@infernodragon456
@infernodragon456 4 ай бұрын
@@yvindvego9404 agreed
@robot7338
@robot7338 4 ай бұрын
not only is this even remotely a problem, but your solutions are kind of terrible. When there are too many events crammed in the menu, group the events into each area of the game and split it that way, done
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
It is impressive that somehow no one has thought of just grouping the events based on where they happened, hats down to you. I tried to make a compromise where we would get all rewards from the events but overestimated about how much people actually care for them.
@TeyvatTheatre
@TeyvatTheatre 4 ай бұрын
Wow. Never design a video game. Seriously.
@TheDendra
@TheDendra 4 ай бұрын
what?
@Tiberium9000
@Tiberium9000 4 ай бұрын
"More consumer friendly" You are talking about miHoYo, bro. A Chinese company. A company focused solely on making profits. While yes, Star Rail treats their fan base notably better than Genshin and SR has better gacha system, it's still a very manipulative game focused on exploiting the fear of missing out and gambling addiction in people. Sure, you can be a F2P. But does it feel that good for the majority of F2P to be F2P? While other people are having fun with the new characters and get to clear stuff more easily and see big PP numbers, you are forced to use mostly 4 stars with not too many Eidolons and only a few 5 stars. Sure, your collection of 5 stars and E6 4 stars is going to grow over the years, but it's still not going to be as big as for someone who spends even a $100 every month. And powercreep isn't going anywhere either. Ruan Mei is absolutely bonkers, Acheron is a walking powerhouse and it's only been a year since launch.
@APERTURESYSTEM
@APERTURESYSTEM 4 ай бұрын
Why tf does this sound AI generated
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
It does not sound natural because it is multiple takes edited into one.
@polishspy3088
@polishspy3088 4 ай бұрын
this is obvious bait
@infernodragon456
@infernodragon456 4 ай бұрын
idk why people are just easily dismissing your point. I do think I would be confused and overwhelmed as a new player if I saw that many events in the archive, and this problem will only worsen as time goes on and more events get added. But...if I am just starting the game then it would not make sense for me to play an event that has characters from the Luofu. I haven't even met them yet. Say if the game picks 2 events from Luofu and 1 from Penacony while I am still in Belabog, I would not be able to play any during that period. I think the better alternative would be to cluster the events Region wise, and even in that show them according to the timeframe of their release. This will streamline the process of selecting them for newer players imo Still nice work for focusing on an issue that no one else sees, I hope you grow as a CC!
@t.v.1201
@t.v.1201 4 ай бұрын
the reason people are picking apart his point is because the situation you too describe can't happen. most of the events have a quest completion requirement so a situation where you have a long list of events all at once doesn't happen because most of them will be locked until you complete the subsequent story quest. also the game automatically puts events you completed under events you haven't done yet so say a hypothetical new player joins, they have a list of events that slowly unlock themselves as they progress the story and once they get them out of the way, any events they haven't done will be at the top removing the issue of having to scroll. The people dismissing his point are mainly doing so because he ignores many aspects of the system that are already there to combat new player confusion.
@sspilex
@sspilex 4 ай бұрын
You can't play events that are related to the missions, Ergo you cant do the Loufo events without having finished the Loufo Questline. Also The Fate Atlas already shows the Chronology as well as the Region of where the event takes place. The point is dismissed because everything neccessary already exists.
@infernodragon456
@infernodragon456 4 ай бұрын
@@sspilex yes and what will you do when the rotation selects 3 events that cannot be played by you? That's literally what I was saying as to why this system is not good. Regarding the timeline part, i agree with you that there already exists a functionality for that in game. However, that shows all the quests in the game and if you want to simply know which event comes first, it's a bit of a searching. Whereas if all the events for a region were shown in a list patchwise, that would be much more quicker to understand.
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
@t.v.1201 @sspilex That is assuming that new players won't focus on catching up with the main story, and completing all events as they are unlocked. Additionally it makes little difference if one of the many events is at the bottom of the list, having a search bar, or a favourite event feature would still help, if you don't want to go with the revamp route. The Fate Atlas does not show everything chronologically, it only shows the main quests chronologically, because according to it, the Ruan Mei event happens before we get to the Belobog, but we already know and message Clara once we find a creation that looks similar to her
@RexiVTOfficial
@RexiVTOfficial 4 ай бұрын
Even if the game would only have events that are story locked for you it would not be that big of a deal, because they would come back with the same rewards at some point, and because it means you still have story quests to do, so you will not be left without any content to complete. I did see someone else mention grouping events by region and I really like the idea. And thank you for the kind words.
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