The EVO Numbers Are Pretty Wild

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@leithaziz2716 18 күн бұрын

I must say, I'm proud of the Strive competitive scene for being so consistent and still going strong for 3-4 years so far. That's a very healthy sign for the community.

@carlosaugusto9821 18 күн бұрын

Completely unprecedented for the franchise. Even when its entrance numbers surpassed SF numbers in the release year... after all not every game surpass SF just for being new. Just like the fact it's getting a 4th season, which is rare in this genre... though some people might not be fully aware of that just because the only two games with long dlc cycles are SF and TK, the mainstream games that everyone plays. But that's a tremendous achievement.

@limb-o7180 17 күн бұрын

@@carlosaugusto9821 also considering it's still a pretty niche franchise outside of the fgc.

@HunnyDoo 17 күн бұрын

I keep hearing jokes that Strive players don't actually play the game, they just jack off to Bridget porn, and stuff like that. I keep seeing Strive as top 3 entrants in every tourney tho so clearly someone is playing.

@kaleidoslug7777 18 күн бұрын

The KoF crew is hanging in there. There are dozens of us! Dozens!

@datdude15 18 күн бұрын

Hey that game is actually good......unlike mk1

@pendent23 18 күн бұрын

I daresay there are nearly 400 of you

@RafaelVolcanes 18 күн бұрын

I dont get it, KoF is amazing. It really needs better marketing.

@third-ratedude4234 18 күн бұрын

@@RafaelVolcanesthe main playerbase for KoF dont travel much, sadly

@soliduswasright678 18 күн бұрын

Travelling to EVO from LATAM is insanely expensive, that definitely plays a part. The other part is NA just doesn't like SNK games and they never have. They'll always find an excuse not to try them. source: I'm the NA SNK fan who always tries to convince people to give KOF 98 or XV or Garou a shot but its like talking to a wall.

@matthew5949 18 күн бұрын

Sajam feeling the need to tell people to shower everyday is crazy!! He's probably met a bunch of stinkers at these events!

@GreenBro11 18 күн бұрын

I went to a local small time con once for a SF6 tourney and it smelled so bad. I can’t imagine what a major event with thousands of people possibly smells like.

@leithaziz2716 18 күн бұрын

I've never hung out at tournaments, but I've heard wild stories from SBFP about Yugi-Oh competitive tournaments with rough hygiene.

@bwnnn 18 күн бұрын

Dude, last year's Evo I smelled my first one AT THE DAMN DEPARTURE GATE AT THE AIRPORT. I look over, and sure enough, Victrix stick backpack and CEO shirt. How you gonna already be stinky before you even fly to Vegas? The mind boggles

@djhero0071 18 күн бұрын

The smell deal is the biggest thing stopping me from going to tourneys. Like bruh. I know it's a competitive mind game mixup type thing (at least I HOPE that is) but you're fucking shit up for everyone else. Have higher standards for yourself and the community, man. For fucks sake.

@afwae3wefazsggeawg 18 күн бұрын

Standing in the Water is Not Enough | Shower to Master

@BIGBLUBLUR 18 күн бұрын

Rising being 4th, just behind the three super heavyweights, warms my heart. I really love that game. It may not be the deepest technically, but it does so much stuff right, and I'm glad it got a 2nd chance in this modern Rollback era of fighters.

@thedarkderp2520 17 күн бұрын

Agreed rising is a really fun game

@hands-ongaming7180 17 күн бұрын

It’s funny how MK is no longer considered top 3

@Zevox87 17 күн бұрын

@@hands-ongaming7180 MK's never really been top 3 in terms of competitive scene size. It's at the top (aside from Smash) in terms of sales/mass popularity, certainly, but that's because of massive appeal to more casual players. But the FGC, tournament-going player base for it, while it's always there, has never really been as big as those for the other big names in the genre.

@faceurhell 17 күн бұрын

@@hands-ongaming7180 Competitively, in the post-SF4 world, MK has always lagged behind the newest Street Fighter, the newest Tekken, the newest Smash Bros and Melee in terms of competitive interest. Now Guilty Gear has done that with Strive, and Dragon Ball will probably be above there when we get that inevitable DBFZ sequel. And who knows, maybe if Capcom gets their fighting game division together, their newest Versus games might do this as well. A lot of factors go against MK; poor launches, poor game states, lacking competitive interest outside of Europe and America, bad PC ports, no actual release of the game in many Asian countries, and MK being too violent to appeal to younger players. But if I'm NRS I don't care much about all but the first two issues, because NRS' last 5 (soon to be 6) releases have all been significant blockbuster hits.

@feri7mble 17 күн бұрын

I like the game but not more than the original GBVS

@FrankenSteinsGate 18 күн бұрын

Tekken went from 1800 entrants as their peak to over 4000, and SF6 has had 2 years in a row with over 5000 entrants. Obviously correlation isn't causation, but the fact that both these games have very high-profile and _very_ successful newcomer-level content creator tournaments (e.g. CR Cup and Sajam Slam) I don't think should be overlooked for these games' popularity

@Freakattaker 18 күн бұрын

There's some amount of self looping feedback since part of the reason newcomer level content creator tournaments happened is BECAUSE there were newcomer level content creators interested in getting into these games, BUT the tournaments absolutely played a major part in getting public eye onto these games in a way that hasn't been seen in a longgg time. Without the tournaments, who knows how many of those content creators would've really gone on to get into these games and spread awareness of how cool they are to the wider audience and ecosystem outside of the typical FG player base.

@leithaziz2716 18 күн бұрын

@@Freakattaker A lot of Tekken 7's growing audience came from shared stories of wild tournament moments from across the globe. Since it had a competitive scene in many different regions.

@carlosaugusto9821 18 күн бұрын

@@leithaziz2716 And T7's massive growth itself compared to older games is related with some outside factors like the strong support that the franchise got in that decadent period (post Tag 2)... and even the factor of SF's decadence because of SF5's early years. That failure broke the hype wave the franchise was surfing on due to SF4's success, and gave an opening for people to give more attention to games from Bandai Namco and Arc Systems. Because in the time of SF4 it was stealing a lot of attention from other games, no matter how competent, like GG Xrd and KOF 13.

@mogucentral3820 17 күн бұрын

the only reason that Tekken 8 had that number of entrants is because of the hype before the launch and on its first 2 months but after players experienced the bugs and other issues from the game, it seems it will not be the same now. Just look how many players are playing on Steam, 50k on launch and now it's averaging 5k players per day while SF6 is still consistent averaging 30k players per day.

@WeMissDimebag 17 күн бұрын

Yes, it cannot be understated how important T7’s explosion and longevity as a competitive game has fed into increased popularity of the franchise. T8 has capitalized on that by also increasing general audience appeal and now they’ve damn neared triple their EVO turnout in year 1 of the game. It’s insane. And Harada tweeted today that he convinced the president of Bandai Namco to come with him to the event because he doesn’t understand why Harada and Murray travel to these events. It’s gonna be crazy.

@piercethedrock 18 күн бұрын

Strive over 2k is absolutley wild, after all this time.

@piinkhat 18 күн бұрын

My first EVO was great, you should follow Sajam's advice and stay hydrated. Also, if you're not used to dry, higher elevated climates (I'm from South Texas at sea level), be prepared for a potential nosebleed! I was sitting in the crowd watching Smash 4 when I turned to my friend and he said "bro your nose is bleeding" I looked down and saw blood on my shirt, which is wild that I didn't notice or feel it. Needless to say, I had to rush to the restroom. It's definitely one of my favorite memories from EVO 2017 lmao

@frcShoryuken 10 күн бұрын

And chapstick

@Arassar 18 күн бұрын

Seeing over two thousand for GUILTY GEAR is kind of nuts to me.

@madmanmit2618 18 күн бұрын

Not new for Evo. GG had over 2400 last year, and 2100 in 2022. Strive is a very popular competitive game.

@Amaling 18 күн бұрын

@madmanmit2618 it's super cool tho to see a guilty gear title doing this well in year 4

@madmanmit2618 18 күн бұрын

@@Amaling Well, technically it's year 3. Strive released in mid 2021, so this would be it's third year. But yeah, I agree. It's still doing very well for it's age.

@D3dshotCalamity 18 күн бұрын

And 1100 of them are playing Happy Chaos!

@jarjar8088 18 күн бұрын

@@D3dshotCalamity and the rest are playing goldlewis

@ZenTea 18 күн бұрын

So happy to see Guilty Gear Strive still over 2k, amazing. Old but gold. When a game is fun, it’s fun.

@letmeshowumypkmn 18 күн бұрын

From having over 10k gamers, Tekken being so close to SF in entries, Granblue being so high up and UNI having nearly 800 people, it’s really amazing to see just how many people are caring about competitive fighting games. The way it all blew up is crazy to say the least Poor MK

@El-Burrito 18 күн бұрын

Tekken 8 is doing so well. It's completely blown Tekken 7 out of the water and Tekken 7 pretty much grew year on year.

@TheOtakuKat 18 күн бұрын

First year numbers are almost never reflective of the actual competitive numbers not until the game's second year.

@sayedomairsiam6344 18 күн бұрын

True, Tekken 7 started slow and grew up each year @TheOtakuKat

@MANTAZA66 17 күн бұрын

@@TheOtakuKat meanwhile mk1 with 600 only but then again the game sucks anyway

@mogucentral3820 17 күн бұрын

@sayedomairsiam6344 17 күн бұрын

@mogucentral3820 lol, whule thats half true, Tekken 8 is getting better by each update and the community is loving it unlike mk1.

@xravia79 18 күн бұрын

Love to see SF6 killing it for a second year

@Hunt9-qb1if Күн бұрын

Sf6 🐐

@soliduswasright678 18 күн бұрын

I hope COTW is at EVO next year, praying that game is what finally gets people into SNK games.

@Invaderbrim 18 күн бұрын

Next throwback has to be Soulcalibur 2 so Aris can pick himself up an EVO trophy

@dur_durr9387 18 күн бұрын

Glad granblue has good numbers, despite people not liking the current meta

@Vsolid 18 күн бұрын

I’m searching for the next patch like water in the desert I wanna love the game so bad

@Zevox87 17 күн бұрын

Eh, people always bitch about the current meta in every game. Whoever the current top tiers are are always "killing the game," especially if a patch comes and doesn't knock them down to at least mid-tier. You kind of learn to ignore it after a while and just enjoy the games you like while ignoring online whining about them.

@madmanmit2618 18 күн бұрын

This is just a list of games that cracked over 1k entrants at Evo over the years. Very interesting numbers. 1 Street Fighter VI (2023) - 7080, 2. Street Fighter VI (2024) - 5265, 3. Street Fighter V (2016) - 5107 4. Tekken 8 (2024) - 4646, 5. Super Smash Bros. Ultimate (2019) - 3532, 6. Super Smash Bros. WII U (2016) - 2662 7. Street Fighter V (2017) - 2622, 8. Dragon Ball FighterZ (2018) - 2576, 9. Street Fighter V (2018) - 2496, 10. Guilty Gear Strive (2023) - 2471 11. Super Smash Bros. Melee (2016) - 2372, 12. Ultra Street Fighter IV (2015) - 2227, 13. Guilty Gear Strive(2022) - 2155 14. Guilty Gear Strive (2024) - 2058, 15. Ultra Street Fighter IV (2014) - 1979, 16. Street Fighter V (2019) - 1949 17. Super Smash Bros. WII U (2015) - 1926, 18. Tekken 7 (2019) - 1896, 19. Super Smash Bros. Melee (2015) - 1869 20. Samurai Shodown (2019) - 1726, 21. Ultra Street Fighter IV (2013) - 1637, 22. Tekken 7 (2023) - 1587 23. Mortal Kombat 11 (2019) - 1574, 24. Tekken 7 (2018) - 1544, 25. Ultra Street Fighter IV (2012) - 1520 26. Super Smash Bros. WII U (2017) - 1505, 27. Super Smash Bros. Melee(2017) - 1425, 28. Granblue Fantasy Versus: Rising (2024) - 1377 29. Super Smash Bros. WII U (2018) - 1355, 30. Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 (2023) - 1352 , 31. Super Smash Bros. Melee (2018) - 1350 32. Street Fighter V (2022) - 1321, 33. Ultimate marvel vs Capcom 3 (2013) - 1302, 34. Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 (2012) - 1297 35. Tekken 7 (2017) - 1283, 36. Tekken 7 (2022) - 1215, 37. Dragon Ball FighterZ (2019) - 1197, 38. Pokken Tournament (2016) - 1180 39. Blazblue: Cross Tag Battle (2018) - 1178 , 40. Mortal Kombat X (2015) - 1162, 41. Under Night In-Birth EXE: Late[ST] (2019) - 1154 42. Street Fighter III: 3RD STRIKE (2024) - 1101, 43. The King Of Fighters XIII (2012) - 1072, 44. Ultimate Marvel VS Capcom 3 (2014) - 1014 45. The King Of Fighters XV (2022) - 1006

@ShaunInce123 18 күн бұрын

Marvel 2 is definitely getting a 1000 plus bracket if it's a throwback game next year.

@axis8396 18 күн бұрын

MBAACC would be a really hype spectator game, plus you get the Uni overlap

@MegaGamingClan 18 күн бұрын

Seeing granblue getting such high numbers is so wonderful to see. Granblue as a franchise never had much of a following outside of japan, so seeing rising getting this many people playing it on its first year at evo is wonderful to see. Hopefully it can keep it up after this, especially with rising's first major balance overhaul patch will be playable at booths at evo.

@madmanmit2618 18 күн бұрын

It surpassed Marvel vs Capcom in terms of entrant numbers from last year. UMVC3 got 1355, while GBVS this year got 1377, crazy numbers.

@Crowlo17 18 күн бұрын

@@madmanmit2618is this troll ? The fact that UMVC released in 2011 and still on par with granBlue, it’s embarrassing for GranBlue

@madmanmit2618 18 күн бұрын

@@Crowlo17 Not really, UMVC3 may be old, but it's very popular here in the west. "When's Mahvel" was a saying for a long time because a lot people in the FGC missed it being at Evo and were waiting for it's return. So naturally you would see a large influx of players coming to Evo to play MVC3. Granblue on the other hand, is not nearly as well known here in the west as Marvel is. There's no beloved history of it competitively here. So the fact that in it's first year it edges out MVC3 by entrants numbers is actually quite impressive.

@aRBy125 17 күн бұрын

@@Crowlo17on what planet are these "embarrassing" numbers for Granblue? Anime games cracking 1k at EVO is always huge, lol.

@zip3704 16 күн бұрын

@@aRBy125 its in a jp/anime style but is it really an anime fighter.

@Carlitonsp1 18 күн бұрын

I feel like Soul Calibur 2 could work for the retro game, but that might get into weird territory when it comes to the best version.

@deadfr0g 16 күн бұрын

The beta “Which scene is doing the best?!?” versus the chad “ I am SO PROUD of all these communities.” 🗿💕

@eduardoserpa1682 18 күн бұрын

It warms my hear to see the UNI2 and GBVS numbers (Strive as well, but I'm not surprised at that one). UNI also had a good showing at CEO, and a good sale on Steam, so I hope they keep clawing their way out of full-priced Discord fighter territory.

@tracepalmatier9696 18 күн бұрын

Next year's legacy game is almost certainly gonna be MvC2 with the Marvel collection coming out. Maybe there'll be room for 2 legacy games...?

@yagamikiralight8805 15 күн бұрын

I know that this won't happen like ever 😂 but it would be so cool of they put KOF 02 or 98 there , or the older guilty gears

@Michael_Raymond 18 күн бұрын

I am a diehard HxH fan, which means I can tell you first hand that the community has completely stopped getting excited about anything ever. It’s like if there was a Game of Thrones fighting game in development - the main response is “oh there was a time I would have gone absolutely insane for this”. HxH has been a functionally dead manga for years

@carlosaugusto9821 7 күн бұрын

The timing for this HxH game is incredibly off... like 10 years late or so. Also HxH isn't a franchise with the timeless status of DBZ or HNK, that can keep getting new games until the end of times. Like, DBZ ended officially in the 90s and got no content updates in the 00s until the Kai series (not even true new content anyways)... still the game production rate and the market reception continued strong for DBZ. HNK ended in the late 80s, never had any content update, but kept getting new games from time to time. Only few anime franchises have that status, even if dead. HxH isnt like that. And while the manga isnt over, it's functionally dead like you said. So i'm inclined to judge that this is a kind of opportunistic project to exploit the DBFZ phenomenon: making a traditional 2d fg using a MvC-like system applied to a popular anime. And HxH at this point must be less expensive to work with, compared to Naruto and One Piece, that are franchises that would make sense to use nowadays. Secondly, HxH games are so rare in general, much more a HxH fg, that i get the feeling that the company must be just betting on the critically starving HxH fanbase being out of their minds and desperate to support this game. After all, starvation negates critical thinking and picking.

@count_rizzula 18 күн бұрын

I think one possible reason why a lot of people are disinterested in the HxH game is because they saw how the characters looked and thought that we were gonna get hit with a Jujutsu Kaisen Cursed Clash situation. This is a pretty big reach and of course there are other possible reasons why but I did notice people in comments sections comparing HxH to JJKCC even though they are nothing alike.

@leithaziz2716 18 күн бұрын

For a personal example, if I as a JoJo fan were to get a game that looked as (sorry for the lack of words) dirtcheap the game in question, I would be very letdown. Of course, you're not wrong about the fact that many licensed anime games have a reputation of being lazy cashgrabs (most of them arena fighters), which isn't helping matters.

@emperormegaman3856 18 күн бұрын

I'd say on the other direction many where disappointed because they expected it to be Dragon Ball FighterZ only to find out that it was... Well not that. Which should have been expected, very few franchises have the scope to receive the DBFZ treatment. It remains to see if Fans of the manga/anime will jump in and get the game once it comes out. That will be a determining factor. It doesn't help that the first footage shown made it look worse than it apparently is.

@djhero0071 18 күн бұрын

The biggest issue with it for me is that it looks worse than Tatsunoko V.S Capcom. It looks WORSE and MORE LOW BUDGET than A FUCKING WII GAME!! Even IF 8ing is the company working on it and it's with a series as beloved as HxH, that low level of a budget is just demoralizing. I'm more annoyed at Gon and Killua not even having their whole outfits. At least as far as what we've seen.

@carlosaugusto9821 18 күн бұрын

@@emperormegaman3856 In a way HxH is like DBFZ, just not in the aspects that interests the fg fan and consumer. Like, it's unquestionably the result from DBFZ's success, which combined a famous anime franchise with a solid traditional 2d fg format. I dont know how much the specific use of MvC system (loosely but close enough) mattered... but it must be a factor, because MvC died in that period and there was no other game in that style. Regardless HxH is doing the same thing: big anime franchise + MvC system. But one important factor for sure is that traditional 2d fgs based on animes became very rare after the ps2 gen, because the technology growth and the decadence of 2d fgs motivated companies to use other genres for animes, even if it's the 3d arena fg format. So people immediately gave a lot of attention to a traditional 2d fg of DBZ. And Eighting (dev company) is making this cheap HxH game betting 100% on how critically starving the HxH community is and their willingness to support the game.

@Sakaki98 18 күн бұрын

Games in a different sub genre can absolute share the same misses when it comes to the quality and support of the product, and those are where all the comparisons are being made. The fact that Eighting’s involved ensures a similar lack of balance given their history(which is or isn)t fine depending on who you ask) , they sport a similarly anorexic roster size relative to their respective subgenres, they both are getting graphically diffed by games two or even three console generations prior, and HxH has arguably less of an excuse for these things because there are copy-pasted MvC animations all over the place that would assumedly lessen the budget and manpower necessary to alleviate the aforementioned issues. And when it comes to post-launch support concerns, that’s probably the one area where Eighting has failed harder than Bamco with how much of a laughing stock DNF Duel has become for taking 2 whole ass years to complete a single season of where even the disastrously launched so-poor-we-were-basically-forced-into-Sony-exclusivity SFV had finished their third season by this time. Saying that a 2D and 3D tag fighter have nothing in common is probably the biggest reach here lmao

@ratfink2079 18 күн бұрын

Tekken Tag 2 would be a godlike throwback game

@UhDewSea 18 күн бұрын

The problem with MK isnt the number of competitors, it's that the games growth is stagnant. Every other game has grown immensely over the years but NRS games have just stayed around the numbers it usually has. They have to do something. They have to rethink how the game flows competitively. Obviously its in its own stratosphere with Smash when it comes to sales, but even Smash can pull in large numbers of competitors from those huge install bases. Also, to the dismay of the vocal minority, they need to add an option for gore. Other countries wont touch the game and companies wont sponsor MK bc of it. Literally an option hurts no one because its your CHOICE whether to have it on or off. If you argue against it then youre just seeking confrontation and arent a part of the arugment

@valeoncat13 14 күн бұрын

I'm not an MK fan, but in my eyes, the gore IS the game. Obviously it's a feature that hurts the game in lots of ways but I don't think they should take one of the key features of a series just to (maybe) increase popularity. Cause even Injustice 2 was looked at with negative impressions competitively. NRS just kind of misses the mark in the regard by default.

@Reizor_ 18 күн бұрын

Holy shit 700 for uni im so happy

@friskydrinklunkybank1108 18 күн бұрын

I know right! I'm happy granblue and under night are up there with the big contenders

@sozestone6469 18 күн бұрын

KOF has never been popular here, I'm not surprised at the numbers, but KoF tournaments are hype af to watch. MK on the other hand, should have people talking. MK tournament numbers have been bad, and most of it's player base went back to XI (according to Steam Charts). Plus it's part of "the big 3" it shouldn't be getting lapped by 3 anime games. Uni growing is beautiful to see, that games tournaments always end up being a gem to watch at these events I swear.

@REIQ 9 күн бұрын

So Excited for Evo! I'll be at the B-68 Artist alley! hope you see you there Sajam!

@fenixright 18 күн бұрын

Price definitely kept me from going this year. Though sort of regret it after seeing the 3rd strike numbers

@OwainVEVO 18 күн бұрын

i'm definitely gonna go in 2025, my first EVO. Should be fun!

@guitarheroziplock 18 күн бұрын

Strive still doing so incredibly well with a lot of new updates down the road is amazing to see

@CrazyLikeChris 18 күн бұрын

The official streams better be good to handle this capacity or it's gonna suck. There was recent Japanese FGC tournament (I forget the name) a few months ago that had terrible streaming and scheduling it killed the online viewership.

@JackichigoTG 18 күн бұрын

EVO streams are always on point, i wouldn't be worry about that

@comradetyrone2298 17 күн бұрын

EVO Japan's streams were trash, at least the English streams

@arobin3266 18 күн бұрын

KOF98 or +R for next year's throwback game would be pretty sick

@yagamikiralight8805 15 күн бұрын

Facts

@spaghettioverlord3247 18 күн бұрын

I’m seeing a lot of people trash on MK but those are pretty average for MK. If it released in spring I bet the number would be a lot higher but after ten months this isn’t horrible.

@limitedbom2206 17 күн бұрын

Looking at steam charts, there's more people on mk 11 than mk1. That's how bad it is, mk 11 is garbage too but mk1 is hot trash.

@valeoncat13 14 күн бұрын

@@limitedbom2206I'd argue that MK has always been a trash series, and that's perfectly fine. The fans are just slowly begging to realize what that means, in an era where some of the best fgs are releasing, and rightfully just prefer the better quality stuff.

@limitedbom2206 14 күн бұрын

@@valeoncat13 I don’t think that’s the case. I’ve played plenty of nrs games, they at least had the chaotic style to them. Constantly bashing each other, running each other down, flashy combos, etc. now the nrs games feel like they’re trying to be street fighter and it’s like… why would I play a worse version of street fighter?

@ruaannnn 17 күн бұрын

Regarding the advice about Evo at the end of the vid; as a Vegas local, if youre into food there are so many great food places here of literally every type, one of Vegas's major upsides, highly recommend to venture outta the strip if you are able to!!

@paxilian 18 күн бұрын

3rd Strike stays winning

@decksteroussnail 18 күн бұрын

Can't wait for the Chun top 8

@bageltime8983 18 күн бұрын

@@decksteroussnailYun mirror grands 🗣🗣

@loganmadface5425 18 күн бұрын

@@decksteroussnailHugo was just in Grands at CEO!

@coolswag4612 17 күн бұрын

@@decksteroussnailnah, western 3rd strike scene is more diverse it always has.

@decksteroussnail 17 күн бұрын

@@coolswag4612 yeah, cause they know they never gon win anyway

@andreslyon13 18 күн бұрын

Kof Is not a really hard game in execution but neutral Is on a whole other level, it really Is a game where legacy skill carries you so badly, which Is a really good thing!!

@adams3627 18 күн бұрын

I’ve been to towns with a smaller population than the Strive brackets.

@D3dshotCalamity 18 күн бұрын

Good or trash, 2XKO is going to have huge numbers for it's first tourney.

@pian-0g445 18 күн бұрын

Not only f2p, but also bring in the riot game audience. Just like how many people tried valorabt cause they played league, same is gonna happen.

@branmuffin184 12 күн бұрын

I am still desperately hoping for an SC2 throwback next year

@VannTango 18 күн бұрын

"I don't want to watch another grand finals Nier mirror" If this Evo is anything like last Evo, every grand finals will be a mirror.

@CptnFabulous 18 күн бұрын

blazblue for the throwback slot would be cool, we need new blood to take on Monarch

@Zevox87 17 күн бұрын

While I love BB, I doubt they'd consider it old enough to be a throwback game yet. Maybe for CF's 10th anniversary. In the meantime, I'd bet more on older games that are fondly remembered - KI, Soul Calibur 2, CvS2, etc.

@aRBy125 17 күн бұрын

I told myself, the year BBCF is the Evo Throwback game is the year we get a new Blazblue, lol.

@AkibanaZero 17 күн бұрын

An old Soul Calibur tournament to (so not going to happen) hopefully encourage a new entry to be developed one day would be icing on the cake for me.

@Fatih120 18 күн бұрын

Are we getting more GGST talks from ya? I wanna see you tell me that everything's gonna be okay and Slayer won't hurt me

@mus0u 18 күн бұрын

would love to see KOF13 as the throwback next year, it's so fun to watch. or if that's not old enough 02 and 98 are always popular

@carlosaugusto9821 18 күн бұрын

That would be nice but KOF is not a "classic" in the sense of other old games commonly treated like that. Because there's a whole authentic culture around those games in the north american community, but it's not like that with KOF.

@JoelBurger 18 күн бұрын

You know things are rough when MK dudes are having to bust out "well we don't go to events because our online is just too good", as though they didn't have month after month last year where MK1's online was busted because WB rushed the game out the door.

@GreenBro11 18 күн бұрын

I gotta wonder if 20 years from now over a 1000 people will still be entering tournaments for SF6?

@bloomallcaps 18 күн бұрын

I highly doubt it lol

@trinityassassinz9195 18 күн бұрын

@@bloomallcaps why?

@tronixchl2004 18 күн бұрын

Kinda regretting buying UNI 2 tho, for how many EVO players there 1/10 players in-game

@mrpinguimninja 17 күн бұрын

Having +R or MBAACC on the Evo mainstage would be so cool. (Also, unfortunatelly, traveling to the US is very expensive, I'd love to go to EVO someday and if I was lucky enough, meet Pep and ask him for an autograph)

@charliericker274 18 күн бұрын

3rd strike at number 5, love to see it.

@Havik2-3 18 күн бұрын

Soul Caliber 2 would be sick for EVO 2025

@l0_0l 18 күн бұрын

hoping some marvel vs. collection games rank next year-will probably help get us to mvc4.

@krasmazov009 18 күн бұрын

Fighting games are here to stay.

@JackgarPrime 11 күн бұрын

We've come a long way from Battle By The Bay!

@azizkash286 18 күн бұрын

Those mk1 numbers are shocking and concerning

@IcyTorment 18 күн бұрын

Maybe they should have just had an MK2 tournament instead. MK2 actually had top notch gameplay.

@keithsimpson2685 18 күн бұрын

Truly we are in another era. So weird. Wish FGC was a bit smaller and more DIY but bills gots ta get paid

@MenaceLendil 17 күн бұрын

I think +R would make a good throwback game, still has a solid community.

@Zoth87 17 күн бұрын

I have no idea how they will decide the line up in the coming years if they want to keep the throwback slot and only 8 games.

@puertorico2927 17 күн бұрын

Thank god my hotel is connected to the monorail because f that shiii

@xetsuma 10 күн бұрын

Vampire Savior or Soulcalibur II are my top picks for the legacy game next year, just because they're both so different from UMvC3 and SF3 and those franchises are basically dead and this would be an opportunity to show the publishers that the players really care about the game. Though for SC2 I wonder what platform they'd use, I'm guessing GameCube because that's what most people play it on now but who knows, and this actually matters because of the console-exclusive characters.

@amfrog8277 18 күн бұрын

Legacy game next year. Soul Calibur 2. I will not be accepting many other alternatives.

@Sarkhamy 18 күн бұрын

UNDERNIGHT REPRESENT

@bogeyt15games55 13 күн бұрын

I remember when the only game that could get close to breaking 1,000 players was smash.

@BlewGhost 18 күн бұрын

More SF3:3S registrations than MK1. All is good in the world.

@JohnDoe-hc7hr 18 күн бұрын

those kof numbers make me so sad

@nickt194 17 күн бұрын

They should totally do an old tekken as the classic game now that Tekken is bigger

@ShaunInce123 16 күн бұрын

Question is, which old Tekken do you bring back?

@blackestyang7528 18 күн бұрын

congrats to MK1 for not being in last place!

@MexicanUppercuts 18 күн бұрын

Soul Calibur 2 would be a cool throwback game

@frothyslider253 18 күн бұрын

As a huge HxH fan I can agree with that statement. I am more disappointed to see what Nen impact is than excited for a HxH game.

@kuwakay 18 күн бұрын

as a hxh fan i will be peddling the good word of nen impact when it drops

@lesleyblackvelvet7647 14 күн бұрын

Unfortunately not a lot will be sharing your optimism...😓

@leithaziz2716 18 күн бұрын

For context, the NRS competitive community usually isn't that big for single games, as much of that audience is used to move on to the next title when it comes out around 2 years later. They don't latch on to a specific game much. This is why beyond the 1st year, the dedicated competitive audience dwindles down fast as they're ready to move on and don't feel the need to go back (Maximillion is kinda the exception in that regard for MKX content creation). MK11's continued support was when a lot of players were caught off-guard and realised they couldn't just wait for the next new thing, and MK1 might go the same route. That and the rough launch is why the entrance numbers are so low (despite this being MK1's first year at EVO).

@RayzeCruxis 18 күн бұрын

Or maybe just maybe the game isnt fun and is gonna be just Johnny and Peacemaker

@Hunt9-qb1if Күн бұрын

Sf6 will remain king of the fighting game Throne 🐐

@Draffut2003 5 күн бұрын

"1,200 people are goign to go 0-2 in street fighter" Ya, they probably should do like 6 rounds without eliminations then knock it down to like the top 64/128/256 after that

@JasonDS64 18 күн бұрын

As a Granblue fan, I'm praying we don't get another top 8 with 4 niers . . .

@B_Ahmed1234 18 күн бұрын

How does 3rd Strike have almost double that of MK1?

@CarbyGuuGuu 18 күн бұрын

MK1 is an underwhelming product, that’s why. WB after the Discovery merger has been looking pretty grim…

@B_Ahmed1234 18 күн бұрын

@CarbyGuuGuu Didn't buy it, but I thought it had sold well. Is this more or less entrants than MK11 had I wonder?? Edit: So I checked, and MK11 had like 400ish entrants in 2021, so in a way MK1 is doing better, but seems like this Evo just has more entrants in general so maybe that is just a rising tide situation

@CarbyGuuGuu 18 күн бұрын

@@B_Ahmed1234Entrants for MK games have declined over time, from what I’ve been told MKX and MK11 had over 1,000 entrants when they launched, but then shrunk. MK1 has the lowest entry of any MK in EVO at around 600.

@666slateran666 17 күн бұрын

Because mk1 suuuuuucks competitively

@Hunt9-qb1if 23 сағат бұрын

Because mk1 🗑️

@deadso 18 күн бұрын

Or, one could say, half of the entrants are double dipping ;)

@zackguzman6531 18 күн бұрын

next year fatal fury is gonna be top 1 or 2

@comradetyrone2298 17 күн бұрын

Why didn't SNK throw more money for KoF's prize pool? They have the funds to do it and I would imagine more players will sign up to play and then they can transition to Fatal Fury

@valeoncat13 14 күн бұрын

They already spent a huge chunk of money getting Terry and Mai into SF6, who will both be releasing in the 6-8 month period before CotW's launches. That's plenty enough to get the hype going.

@Eyeupthebison 18 күн бұрын

EVO! BRING BACK DRAGON BALL FIGHTERZ AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

@crimsonite2044 12 күн бұрын

Welp MK1, thats what happens when WB and NRS treat and structure their game like a quick cash-in

@hydrosting 17 күн бұрын

The fact more people play Mortal Kombat than king of fighters is rediculous

@Kusanagikaiser999 18 күн бұрын

MK numbers are NOT OKAY.

@gemani_gem 17 күн бұрын

This number isn't that bad for a game that didn't get a big update in a while

@ringrippa 18 күн бұрын

Wow MK1 only has 645 entries? That game is toast

@CarbyGuuGuu 18 күн бұрын

Zaslav ready to do a tax write-off fatality…

@unmer3306 18 күн бұрын

MK1 getting absolutely clowned on

@strategist9 18 күн бұрын

Man, Multiversus got robbed /s For real though, I'm surprised Strive is still hanging on after all this time.

@Valnoir_ 18 күн бұрын

And ppl say Tekken is dying 😭

@Hunt9-qb1if 23 сағат бұрын

Far from it, it’s huge 😂

@dominicjannazo7144 18 күн бұрын

HunterXHunter hasto prove it's not just another anime cash in, regardless of who is making it. Dragonball fz made it, but a lot of anime, and some 8ing, games floundered.

@r0q 18 күн бұрын

praying for an EVO with no MK. every year it's our watch party's lunch break

@Amaling 18 күн бұрын

I wonder what sort of outrageous numbers 2XKO will have next year, especially if it's f2p. Curious to see how MvC2 will be as well, since it'll obviously be the retro title next time. Is it too crazy to say 2k?

@marwynmentis3419 17 күн бұрын

MK1 literally struggling to stay afloat at this point, but thats what happens with boring character designs and weak gameplay

@dylanstephenson3892 18 күн бұрын

CEO top 8 for SF had Juri, JP, Luke, Ken, Manon, Cammy, and Akuma. Final Kombat top 8 was peacemaker and Johnny Cage. Johnny is still top tier after the "nerfs", so this is just going to be a repeat of that. I love MK but dang pro MK1 is so boring.

@musilva 18 күн бұрын

Shang Tsung, Kitana, Baraka, General Shao, Sindel, Rain and Raiden were also used on final kombat top 8

@dylanstephenson3892 18 күн бұрын

@@musilva True actually, but still boring to watch

@musilva 18 күн бұрын

@@dylanstephenson3892 peacemaker was very boring and a Johnny mirror for grand finals was a big shame, but for everything else I have to disagree, I had a ton of fun watching it.

@dylanstephenson3892 18 күн бұрын

@@musilva To each their own. To me, it seems like MK meta gets figured out days after new patch/characters and I'm watching the same combos and loops over and over. RIPS Arena showcases some stuff that I think is pretty cool, but you never see it at the mainstage tournaments, at least I don't.

@AdamJorgensen 18 күн бұрын

MK1 is...yeah...it exists XD

@user-cc3ef7qh1x 18 күн бұрын

Mortal Kombat

@Hunt9-qb1if 23 сағат бұрын

🗑️

@jamesk2325 18 күн бұрын

The hxh game is on track to fail purely on visuals and that's really sad

@IXHebiXl 18 күн бұрын

KoF 13 for retro game slot please,

@Hunt9-qb1if 23 сағат бұрын

That is such a good looking game

@flerphead 17 күн бұрын

645 hahahaha.

@Hunt9-qb1if 23 сағат бұрын

lol be nice 😂

@stijnvonck1431 9 күн бұрын

You are defending MK1 numbers when the game hasn't been out for a year and making it's first evo appearance. Those numbers are very low.

@arbyw.1889 18 күн бұрын

People dogging on MK1 even though it's a similar amount of entrants as MKX's second year is confusing to me.

@alfgart 18 күн бұрын

It's MK1 first year. It also sold way more copies in its first month than MKX. The FGC and EVO are bigger now than 2016 or 2017, and almost every game got more entrants, except for MK1. Time to face reality, MK1 sucks so much not even NRS fanboys are willing to compete on it

@CarbyGuuGuu 18 күн бұрын

@@alfgartMK felt like it never really had a competitive scene, it mostly appealed to a casual crowd that just want to mash buttons and see the grossest snuff possible. SF and Tekken had a larger competitive scene since their genesis and didn’t lean heavily on violence like MK did, and it just kept growing with each installment.

@alfgart 18 күн бұрын

@@CarbyGuuGuu MKX EVO 2015: 1162 entrants - MK11 EVO 2019: 1567 entrants - MK11 CB 2019: 807 entrants MK did and does have a competitive audience. When MK1 was announced and content creators/shills were invited to events, they all said MK1 felt much better than MK11 and was more competitive focused. And this is where we are. Cut the copium, the game is simply not good

@CarbyGuuGuu 18 күн бұрын

@@alfgart I wasn’t even defending MK1, I thought it didn’t have as big as a competitive scene as SF and Tekken because of its casual appeal. We already know MK1 has been poorly received, but that’s part of a bigger problem going on with WB which is also affecting the games division.