Ashford is a fantastic character. I went from being really apprehensive about him to loving him, to despising him to... David Strathairn is a brilliant actor and really brings the old pirate to life
@timde66184 жыл бұрын
The thing about Amos is, he doesnt have "normal" emotions, but he is aware of it and tries to protect the people he thinks are good.
@stras6764 жыл бұрын
The way he seemed to obey Naomi in the early seasons and everyone thought it was because he was into her. I took it as him knowing he had no sense of morality but wanted to do the right thing so was using hers to decide what was the right thing to do in any situation.
@kirkdarling41204 жыл бұрын
@@stras676 He said as much when he said that he could not make a moral decision whether it would be right or wrong to kill Holden...but Naomi wouldn't like it. We didn't have enough information about him at the time to come to a correct conclusion about what he meant.
@AustinStarDust3 жыл бұрын
In the books, Naomi mentions that Amos doesn't know right from wrong, so he follows other people like her and Holder to do what's right.
@thontor4 жыл бұрын
If you are wondering why the 'ring builders' opened all of the rings for the humans at the end here's a great answer i found on reddit: There are no live ring builders. They did not open the rings for humans to travel through. The protomolecule was sent to our solar system to build a ring gate that connects back to the hub. It got accidentally intercepted and the mission failed. Some time in the billions of years after this failure, the ring builders engaged in a multi-system war against an unknown antagonist. They lost. Ring space is a travel hub for the ring builders, managed by the ring space station. This station is in an automated high security lockdown mode and seemingly has been since the war: all gates are closed, anything behaving badly inside ring space is treated as a threat and neutralised. Meanwhile, humans discovered the protomolecule and tried to meddle with it. The protomolecule, breaking free of its constraints, finally got to progress its mission: build a ring gate, connect back to the travel hub. Humans happily stumbled inside said hub to meddle, blew up a nuke near the ring space station, and now the station thinks whatever came through this new ring is a threat and needs to be burned out. No one inside can get out to warn the rest of the solar system, either; the station has decided all of the ships inside are also threats and has grabbed them forcefully. The protomolecule is still trying to complete its mission: check in with home base, report "mission complete, gate built". Only there is nobody in the ring station who is answering. The protomolecule needs to investigate, to find a way to check in. Enter Miller. The protomolecule has absorbed Miller and determines it is a good enough tool to investigate a way to check in. It reconstitutes Miller and gets Miller to manipulate Holden into pressing buttons in the ring station so that the protomolecule can finish its mission and check in. In return, it, through proto-Miller, agrees to stand down the automated high alert lockdown that the station is under, which should free the ships trapped in ring space and stop the solar system from being fried. Holden pushes the button. Proto-Miller fulfils its end of the deal, and stands down the station. The station thinks: 'Oh, everything is OK now, the war is over, back to normal operations!', and opens the gates.
@EdwardLewisIV4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you've officially reached, The Expanse...
@mikek92973 жыл бұрын
Loved the "I need 5 minutes to find my jaw" moment at the end :D
@cptwhite4 жыл бұрын
Ashford's arc isn't over, he's a legend. This episode shows him as his worst, but from his stand point he was trying to save humanity, naively.
@rob79534 жыл бұрын
Re: Ashford -- he was doing what he honestly believed was the only choice. He didn't want to power down the reactor because it would take time to bring the laser back online in case it didn't work. As far as shooting his mate -- he's still a pirate at heart. Re: Amos -- it took me a bit, but I finally realized that he's drawn to truly good people: Naomi, Holden, Prax, Anna. It's as if he's, consciously or not, finding people to guide him and compensate for his lack of discernment. Even though their time together was short, his interactions with Anna are some of my favorite.
@frog212whyd44 жыл бұрын
The wild thing someone pointed out to me is, if Diogo didn’t steal the Martian suits the martians would have easily overpowered Amos and Alex. The broadcast would have shutdown early.
@TephulioTX4 жыл бұрын
Providence.
@abbaszaidi83714 жыл бұрын
Or serendipity? I prefer providence
@TephulioTX4 жыл бұрын
@@abbaszaidi8371 Kismet?
@Enourmousletters4 жыл бұрын
@@TephulioTX Sauce
@jackmerry19724 жыл бұрын
@@Enourmousletters popcorn?
@Drewe2234 жыл бұрын
Shit girl, you are on fire with these uploads. I remember when you were uploading like twice a month for a bit there. This is awesome, keep up the great work.
@nokta73734 жыл бұрын
I think you missed a couple of details that explain Ashford's actions better. When the scientist detonated the nuke as a "test", he got the station on super-high alert and it started to power up the sun-killing beam we saw in Holden's "vision" inside the Nucleus. Ashford knew from Holden that the Nucleus had the power to "burn whole solar systems down like they were trying to cauterize a wound". So as soon as the Nucleus started to charge up after the nuke went off, Ashford realized that there was a concrete chance it was going to "cauterize" the Sol system and the whole of humanity with it. The data they were receiving was telling them that the Nucleus was charging up "as a railgun". That's why he took upon himself to stop it the only way he knew it would work: by destroying the Ring itself so to cut off the Nucleus from the Sol system and preserving humanity that way. He doesn't trust Holden because he doesn't know him. Last he knew, Holden was still the one who destroyed that UN ship and claimed the Ring for the OPA. So, based on the information at hand, he acted the only way he though it was right to save the whole humanity. Why not trying the Holden's way first? Bobbie asks a good question in this regard: Holden has been in the Nucleus in direct contact with Protomolecule, are we sure he is still Holden? Still human? Or is not somehow controlled by the PM for their alien purposes? Ashford is considering all of this and in his eyes the safest course for humanity is to destroy the Ring, cut off the Nucleus forever and save the human species. He's not wrong, given the information he had at the time. Also, quick clarification: they are not shooting "protons" or "anything that's faster than light" at the Ring :D Nothing we or they know of is faster than light. As far as we know, light is the fastest thing in the universe. They are just shooting a very, very powerful laser beam and laser is light. Light is photons, so, they are shooting photons a the ring :) That laser beam happen to be their communication device since all ships and stations in The Expanse communicate through "tight beam" which is, basically, space laser. The Behemoth has the biggest laser beam ever built by mankind since it was the Nauvoo before and it was supposed to send messages through light-years of space when it reached its intended destination in Tau-Ceti.
@emwungarand4 жыл бұрын
another driving force behind his decision to destroy it is that even if Holden's plan works, the station still exists. The ability to piss it off and end humanity still exists. Even if they save everyone in the ring space and stop the attack this time, he knows that it's human nature to fuck with everything they don't understand. Someone, sometime, will come back and tinker with shit they shouldn't and potentially end humanity. He feels like he's in a position to prevent that possibility, (in his mind an inevitable one) from ever happening.
@marcc18304 жыл бұрын
The Expanse actually describe the expanse of worlds that can now be reached by the ring gate hub. Technically after 3 seasons, we kind of get to the "real" beginning. I think all 1300 systems have habitable/valuable planets, probably why the builders build a ring gate there in the first place.
@vorpalrobot4 жыл бұрын
The protomolecule hijacks life, you'd pretty much only find rings connected to some form of habitable planet.
@Enourmousletters4 жыл бұрын
@@vorpalrobot Well, habitable by some things. A billion years ago.
@JackMValentine4 жыл бұрын
"Bobby?" .... "Alex?" That is literally one of my most favorite moments in the series. Another thing I find frustrating, which is purposely done, is that a lot of the time Bobby is supposed to be the ranking officer and her Marines just don't listen to her. If they had they would still be alive. Also the ending to this season was such a fitting ending. The Expanse has never been about an alien entity being the big bad, yes there have been alien influences but a ring system allow travel to other systems was the ultimate on brand scenario. It leaves so much possibility and potential. It's never been about the science fiction it's always been about how science fiction is a vehicle to tell the ongoing, never ending story of humanity to constantly be at war with itself.
@TealJosh4 жыл бұрын
Previous episodes implied that Bobby didn't get full trust of her crew. Bobby also wasn't in leading role at first during this season. Her rank is enlisted or non-commisioned officer. She had an officer, Lt. leading, her but he was the one who threw the grenade and got ripped apart by the pm-station.
@PornTrouT4 жыл бұрын
Ashford is still my favorite character of this season. I mean hard as he tries to change, when you've spend your entire life dealing in violence and aggression it when push comes to shove it was his go-to reaction.
@jimmers1234 жыл бұрын
And yet he does manage to change his stripes. He has an amazing character arc.
@tacitus56654 жыл бұрын
Also, he really doesn't know how any of this works, for someone who hasn't had any insane alien visions, punching through the ring with conventional means is probably a pretty reasonable approach.
@acereporter734 жыл бұрын
This finale was soooo goood. Drummer being a BOSS. Diego went SPLAT. Everything was intense and complex. And yeah. we were hella mad knowing the show had already been canceled at the time.
@ProvidenceNL4 жыл бұрын
We actually knew the expanse was saved by the time episode...11? came out, probably even earlier.
@runningray4 жыл бұрын
The Station is a hub. All those rings that opened at the station are paired up with another ring in another solar system, so as long as the station keeps the gates open, you can come and go as you please. Also now that the season is over I can add one more meta thing. The creators of the protomolecule send a chunk of protomolecule in the form of an asteroid sized object that will take millions of year of travel at below the speed of light to a new solar system that the creators found. Once there, it would take over the life there and open a ring to the station. That allowed the protomolecule creators to travel to new solar system without the million year travel time. The one coming to us got captured by Saturn (fortunately for us) as a moon before it got to Earth. The "moon" of Saturn, Phoebe was not a moon at all, it was the protomolecule in deep hibernation.
@Blizzard0fHope4 жыл бұрын
well the protomolecule was in phoebe. . not phoebe itself
@deanadewall84004 жыл бұрын
@@Blizzard0fHope Actually irl, scientists believe that Phoebe actually originated outside the Kuiper belt, which would make it an extra-solar object. The books explain that Phoebe is the PM sent to our solar system, but being caught by Saturn's gravity,
@IdleCommentator4 жыл бұрын
Protomolecule creators did not send an asteroid sized object initially though - it was probably some smaller-sized probe, around which what became Phoebe "grew" through accumulation of dust and ice during its journey to the Solar system and then after it was captured by Saturn.
@deanadewall84004 жыл бұрын
@@IdleCommentator True, I guess I misunderstood the comment.
@KevinLyda4 жыл бұрын
"That's not a moon."
@kalandkarazor-el30884 жыл бұрын
My favorite line is when Drummer tells Holden to "make sure you tell Naomi that", she didn't try to kill him. All she cares about is Naomi knowing THAT before she dies, lol
@mmay26694 жыл бұрын
Carly, the Comicon Expanse panel is fun to watch. They are very careful not to give spoilers for season 4, but you get to know the actors. Wes/Amos is hilarious and they really seem to be like a family off and on screen. They are all passionate about the show. You also get to see the authors who also work with the show screenwriters.
@doorran3 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to really appreciate your reactions. I watched several other shall remain nameless Expanse reactors recently. they were not as quick as you. you are fairly perceptive. Even some things that I didn't expect you to get you grasped right away.
@Shawn_M4 жыл бұрын
Philosophical question: humanity just gained the stars, and the price was the population of Eros. Was it worth it? #Dresdenmath
@Drewe2234 жыл бұрын
Logically yes, absolutely. Morally? That is where the issue comes into play.
@jac78954 жыл бұрын
You cant say that in retrospect. Dresden gets zero credit he was just carelessly experimenting on people. What ended up happening was extremely fortunate, one in a billion chance, Eros would have killed everyone on Earth.
@Lightningrod754 жыл бұрын
Well, at this point you may be trading the suffering population of earth for the relatively few of Eros. The good of the many. It can be argued that that is morally right.
@Yesquire04 жыл бұрын
That's water under the bridge. A much better question right now is whether the 1300 habitable systems will completely destroy Martian and Belter society, both of which exisst only because of the lack of more suitable (non-vac suitable?) places to live.
@kirkdarling41204 жыл бұрын
Philosophically, no. A correct moral action is not determined by a serendipitous result, it's determined by the logic of a philosophical system. Dresden's decision was the deliberate sacrifice of the Eros population without their consent. The fact that through the actions of more moral agents than Dresden the end was ultimately beneficial does not change the immorality of Dresden's original action. To paraphrase one of my favorite SF writers, "I object to that the way a lobster objects to boiling water. It might be his finest hour, but it is not his choice."
@ChipMatthews4 жыл бұрын
I think this was the best season finale, and potentially series finale I've ever seen. . This season, though a bit rushed because they fit a book and a half into 13 episodes, is still damn near perfect. You hit on the one weakness which is that we missed out on a lot of Clarissa's story so her motivations and arc are not well fleshed out like they are in the book. Other than that this is just awesome television. Had the series died here this would have been a fitting finale, leaving you with limitless possibilities to ponder but not leaving you on a total cliffhanger. I've really enjoyed your reactions so far, Carly. On to season 4!
@MrJethroha3 жыл бұрын
This whole scenerio with Ashford makes more sense in the book, since it's basically certain that they're all going to die in the ring anyways because pretty soon they'll run out of food/O2. Ashford and the others on their side are scared shitless, and theres an underlying religious tone to their attempted sacrifice. Like they brought all the sins of humanity into the ring and now the ring is punishing them for their sins. Theres a counter part to Anna in the book who's like a shady tellevangelist guy who has a come to jesus moment in the ring. He's the one who gives Melba/Clarissa the idea that one good act can redeem her soul.
@deadhead83234 жыл бұрын
I think drummer does love Naomi but not in the way many seem to think. I think she loves her as friend and also as a sister. I think lately audience tend now see when two women or men get along as best friends in shows they now assume it's romantic love. And while I really don't care if they took it that way I just honestly don't see drummer seeing her that way. I don't know but only time will answer that. As for Ashford I have been hearing from the book readers that TV Ashford is written much better on the show which is a rare thing to hear from book readers. And I honestly still like the character because in those moments he wasn't doing it for power or hate. Anyone who would've heard Holden talk would think he was insane. So every action he was taking was to save the lives outside of the ring. So I'm like you I can't fault him for that.
@lereff13824 жыл бұрын
Very minor book spoilers (no spoilers for future seasons or anything): In the books, Drummer is straight - or in a heterosexual relationship anyway. But here's the thing: in the books, Drummer first appears in Book FIVE as Fred's head of security on Tycho. The Drummer we see on the show is actually a mish-mash of a whole myriad of characters from the books. This includes Book-Drummer (duh), but most notably a character named "Michio Pa" who was not only captain of the Behemoth, but also bisexual and in a polygamous relationship. For this reason, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that TV-Drummer has a thing for Naomi. She obviously considers her a valued friend, but her mild disdain for Holden doesn't come from nowhere...
@ginganinjav52204 жыл бұрын
@@lereff1382 With you on that. Also a huge fan of how subtly they show Drummer's feelings. Also, knowing she's both, aren't you a bit curious/concerned about Drummer's show arc in season 5?
@RocketToTheMoose4 жыл бұрын
@@lereff1382 There's also Naomi's best friend in the books, Samara, who was gay, and whose character is also rolled into TV Drummer.
@renx814 жыл бұрын
I haven't read the books, but from what I have heard, I understand that it's not that book Ashford was written more poorly or anything like that, it's just that the actor portraying him is so good that they decided to give him a much bigger part in the show.
@vorpalrobot4 жыл бұрын
@@ginganinjav5220 I think she's more Michio than book Drummer. Book Drummer isn't that big a part, especially book 5 and after.
@Bangpath2474 жыл бұрын
Ok now that we're done with the 3 seasons of set up we can start with the actual story. welcome to The Expanse.
@FutureMartian974 жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE your reactions, and I think this is my favorite one so far. I also loved how you were speechless at the end as I think all of us were to. I found The Expanse because of the Save The Expanse movement and i've been hooked ever since. I binged watched the whole season and when I was done was just when the series shifted to the story inside of the ring, so I had to go from binge watching to waiting every week for a new episode for a little while and it was torture. But I think the wait for season 4 was worse lol. And i'm not going to give any real spoilers but just as more of a heads up, Season 4 is great, but it may feel like more of a "set up" season if that makes any sense. Can't wait to see your reaction to season 4 because it's definitely a wild ride!
@Topplethepyramid4 жыл бұрын
We were all pissed, like a fleet of angry gun ships. We advertised it too. This probably not only saved the show, but made it thrive. A decisive victory for the #ScreamingFirehawks!
@deadhead83234 жыл бұрын
As for the cancellation by this time yeah Amazon already saved it. And while I was pissed off for a brief moment I was more amazed by how far fans went to get Amazon to consider picking it up. They even flew planes over amazon exec building with banners saying save tbe expanse. And even Amazon saying that they were huge fans of the show that it was a no brainer to try and acquire it.
@cdressel531914 жыл бұрын
Jeff Bezos bought it and saved it because he was a personal fan of the show, lol. The fans had no real hand in it. He's the richest person in the world, he can basically do whatever he wants.
@Melancthon73324 жыл бұрын
@@cdressel53191 he didn't get to be the richest person in the world just by throwing money arbitrarily around - actually, as rich people go he's extremely miserly, he's donated less than 2% of his immense wealth to charity, far less than most of the other top ten richest people in the world. Bezos has always done everything with an eye on the future, profit, and making the future profitable.
@emwungarand4 жыл бұрын
You're not the only one who thinks that Drummer is in love with Naomi.
@detrix424 жыл бұрын
Glad you watched this one right after #12. On to Season 4!!! Season 4, starts book 4, so the action steps back for just a few episodes, but get back to WTF real quick.
@briancampbell69214 жыл бұрын
You are very prescient when it comes to examining the political shift that is going to come from the ring network. The one really shining thing that the show did versus the books is that Drummer is an amalgamation of multiple characters from the books. Buckle your seat belt as S4 is quite the shift. Thanks for sticking it out, you are going to love S4 for Chrisjen. If you think Drummer had some zingers this season, you ain't seen nothing yet.
@penfold74554 жыл бұрын
She was amazing during those last two episodes. That said, I would've been curious to see who they would've cast if they decided to have the security guy from "Abaddon's Gate", Bull, facing off against Ashford.
@KevinLyda4 жыл бұрын
I first experienced this set of events in the books. I didn't cop to the Martian consequences of the ring gates opening till way later when a character notes it.
@briancampbell69214 жыл бұрын
@@KevinLyda Shhh🤫 Spoilers
@Iv4Bez3 жыл бұрын
Really, when I read, I sometimes confused Pa and Drummer
@RonnyBoss4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting the last two episodes back to back, I would go crazy waiting for this episode if you hadn't😀 There's a scene in the book when Holden is trying to get in the bridge of the bohemoth and the doors locked. Someone says "open says me"; and Holden responds "did you just magic that door open?" Hope you read the books, they are different enough that you would be pleasantly surprised at most of the story and character interactions😄 Stay Awesome gurl, can't wait for more
@dapeach064 жыл бұрын
Photons are the particles that light is made of. The communication arrays on ships in The Expanse have both radios (wide beam, for broadcasting to everyone) and lasers (tightbeam, for sending messages to a single location/ship directly). On the Nauvoo, the Mormons were planning on traveling to a star 12 light years from Earth. At those crazy distances, a radio wave would spread out and become super weak before it reached Earth, and even a super tight laser beam would spread out and weaken a lot, so they made the communication laser extremely powerful, so powerful that at short range, the intensity of the light beam could be a weapon rather than just sending information
@talyn53044 жыл бұрын
Great reaction! You touched on Earth and Mar's motivation and ambitions towards the Ring Network beautifully. The only thing I'd say is, don't forget about The Belter's desire in these matters, as well! :)
@abbaszaidi83714 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this reaction to drop since subscribing. And you didn’t disappoint. I had a whole spiel I’m imagining if this was the last ever episode and how you’d feel- but you pretty much encapsulated it. Well almost... I’ll wait for someone to correct me, but Amazon had not picked up S4 when the finale was shown. So that was that. And with at least another four books written, I can only imagine the frustration of fans before they took up a mission, flew a banner, launched a model Roci and became the Screaming Firehawks. I personally got into this when my brother pushed me into this and S4 was in post production and Amazon had already saved the show. So I never experienced the uncertainty of the Screaming Firehawks mission. But it’s a great story to watch in KZfaq. Last year I binged watched S1-3 , then binged S4 last December based on fevered anticipation. Enjoy S4. It’s different, and yes, you have anticipated a subplot in politicking. Won’t and shouldn’t say more. But to quote our favourite mechanic from Baltimore in the S4 finale “thank you”
@cdressel531914 жыл бұрын
They are called photons. They're the particles that carry light. And light travels, literally, at the speed of light, lol. That's where the term "light speed" comes from. Photons travel faster than any other known partical.
@ISavant4 жыл бұрын
not tachyons.
@TheDetailsMatter4 жыл бұрын
186,282 miles a second. It's not just a good idea. It's the law.
@Yannakis19994 жыл бұрын
I have seen too many KZfaq videos not to tell you that the photons are not the fastest particle in the universe, every particle moves at the speed of light. In fact, the speed of light limit has nothing to do with the light at all, it is the speed at the information moves in the universe, be it light, electromagnetism or gravity.
@jackmerry19724 жыл бұрын
@@TheDetailsMatter the space nerd community would be infuriated at the fact you just used an imperial measurement to describe an astronomical distance. 😄🤭😊
@TheDetailsMatter4 жыл бұрын
@@jackmerry1972 The space nerd community is well aware that the speed of light is measured in time units per distance unit, and is therefore a measure of both distance and time, even if the distance being described is that covered by a photon at the end of a year. Imperial vs metric is a nod to the vast number of dinosaurs browsing the internet. (Self included.)
@rodentnolastname66124 жыл бұрын
You'll notice that Amos gravitates towards people with empathy. Naomi, Prax, Anna, even Holden.
@Drewe2234 жыл бұрын
"No one has those savage one liners and really clever dialogue like Drummer" Excuse me, *hold up,* did you just forget about Amos? My man is out here dropping A+ lines every episode. Jokes aside I think Amos, Drummer, and Ashford are probably my favorite characters at this point in the show. All three are just fantastically written and acted. Ashford and Drummer are definitely the standouts this season though. And no, it's not just you. Drummer is absolutely in love with Naomi. I think they handled that dynamic in a really smart and subtle way. It could have very easily become some sort of love triangle garbage between Holden, Naomi, and Drummer. Instead it's kinda in the background and I imagine there are some people who watched the show and never even picked up on it.
@Drewe2234 жыл бұрын
@M 40 Yeah you know, just gonna be honest here. Holden and Naomi have always kinda been weak links in the show for me. Dont get me wrong, they're not bad, in fact I thought the actor who plays Holden did a really good job the last couple seasons, but they're not great. It isn't helped by the fact that there are some absolutely incredible characters like Amos, Ashford, and Drummer that really outshine them. Anytime the two of them are the focus I find myself waiting for one of the more interesting characters. Personally I always wanted a spinoff that was just Amos and Alex going on adventures. Their dynamic is way more compelling.
@Drewe2234 жыл бұрын
@M 40 Agreed. I definitely don't think either of them brings the quality of the show down, but being characters with so much screen time, I kinda wish they were more compelling. I always thought someone like James McAvoy or Cillian Murphy would be a fantastic Holden. They both are able to bring a sense of age and dignity while still seeming youthful. Between the two Naomi is by far the weakes though. She is probably the worst character on the show for me, the actress just never really brings the charisma that a character like that needs imo.
@lereff13824 жыл бұрын
Holden is the anchor of the show. Sure, he's not as flashy of a character as Amos, Drummer, or even Ashford, but he needs to be for the show to work and Steven Strait portrays him wonderfully. As for Naomi, I have a feeling you guys will change your opinion on her after Season 5 releases... :)
@Drewe2234 жыл бұрын
@@lereff1382 The problem with Naomi for me is less about how her character is written and more that I just don't think Dominique Tipper is a good enough actress to carry such a complex role. Maybe she will show us some stuff we havn't seen next season, who knows. I agree when it comes to Holden though, he's pretty solid, especially in seasons 3 and 4.
@deanadewall84004 жыл бұрын
Holden and Naomi are my least favorite characters in the books and series. I'm not sure if u had other actors portray them, it would help any. Love Drummer, but prefer book Amos. As for Ashford, I wish they'd given him a different name, because he's absolutely nothing like the character in the book.
@rodentnolastname66124 жыл бұрын
In the books, all the other ring gates were there, just not open. The rings were all equidistant from each other so from the inside it looked like you were in the middle of a dandelion puffball. Hence the name of the earlier ep "Dandelion Sky"
@KeithDCanada4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations. You have now completed The Expanse Prologue. Books 1-3 were pretty much just the world building and setup for the main story. Now... the adventure begins.
@johnnemesh54594 жыл бұрын
SOOOO glad you stuck with this until this moment! Seriously, the opening of the Rings was one of the very best moments I have ever experienced in science fiction (in ANY form)! Season 4 is pretty good too...but S3 was (IMHO) the best Season so far...although we don't know what S4 sets up for S5 (and THAT is coming SOON, you might just get all caught up before the new season drops this fall!)
@cs34734 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you finally reached this episode. I like the fact that you are picking up on themes that are likely to be explored down the line at some point. ;) (Season 4 is pretty good, but I think of it as a reloading season for some of the craziness that is going to come down the road...) As far as it being cancelled/picked up by Amazon, that story is crazily awesome as well. If you have a chance look up "Jeff Bezos saves the Expanse". The show is very popular with the science and technology community because of the shows realism, and as a result the cast and crew tend to be frequent guests on that particular conference circuit. Bezos was also someone who frequented the same circuit and the Expanse Crew met Bezos at one of the conferences. After some behind the scenes talking Bezos made some calls and then told the cast and crew (in front of the entire conference) that Amazon had picked up the show. It was an awesome moment.
@emwungarand4 жыл бұрын
The comm laser being misaligned was addressed. The belter says to Ashford that it was knocked out of alignment when the slowdown hit. They didn't detect it when they tried to beam through the ring, because it was only slightly off alignment and they were shooting at the center of the ring gate, so the laser still hit the ring interference, but when they aimed very precisely at the edge of the ring, at the structure itself, that's when they noticed it was off. Think of it like shooting a rifle through a hula-hoop. You won't know your sight is off if you just shoot to make it through a huge hula hoop, but if you aim for the actual hoop itself with the rifle being out of sight, you'll miss and you'll notice.
@ShaunRF4 жыл бұрын
When you remember that Clarissa learned that trick to shutting down power from her supervisor Ren, whom she killed with great regret :(
@cinedelasestrellas4 жыл бұрын
Notice how Clarissa got the Behemoth to shut down - she reversed a module in the power grid. She learns how to do this the first time we see her, when Ren (the guy she murdered when he found her bomb on the Seng Un) tells her the if one of these modules is put in backwards, it shorts out and shuts everything down. So she learns how to do her first act of good from the victim of her first act of her evil.
@rodentnolastname66124 жыл бұрын
The "comm array" or communications array (not com ray) has a super powerful laser. That laser (just light, photons) was to be used to communicate with Earth when the Navoo is on its way to another star, another solar system. Its so powerful it can beam messages across light years.
@obertan854 жыл бұрын
As someone else said below you are spot on with your prediction for what comes next and the who stays, who goes dynamic and political implications. Season 4 is a bit different but for me I think perfectly captures the tone from the books. Production values go through the roof btw, so you'll definitely want to be re-watching season 4 on a big screen! Now you have got this far, I'm not sure if anyone has recommended these but I found The Expanse Crack and The Expanse Crack 2 by a user called yanheda really appealed to my childish sense of humour and worth checking out!
@IanHillan4 жыл бұрын
OMG the GIANT eyeroll of disappointment at the end of episode 12. I laughed so loud. As far as season 4 and how the politics of the 1300 new worlds is gonna play out, I don't think it's a spoiler to remind you that this is The Expanse and it's probably a good bet that things don't go well. 😂🤣😂🤣
@michaelgonzalez62954 жыл бұрын
"The Ring Builders" are gone and killed by "The Enemy" (my name for them not a spoiler or anything). If they are stil around how will THEY treat we amoebas?
@mingerone4 жыл бұрын
Loved watching you dig this show so far. Now to watch your reaction...
@KevinLyda4 жыл бұрын
Drummer and Holden have two conversations in this episode where he realises Naomi has more than one person who loves her. I think what's unsaid is that while in a way they're rivals they respect each other and between them Naomi matters more. It makes me like both of them more.
@eliotcougar4 жыл бұрын
Also, the rings are opened to the solar systems that all have habitable planets, similar to Earth... That's why the ring-builder was sent to Sol in the first place, but (un)fortunately didn't activate properly... Yes, you can go through a ring and come back... ...except when you go through a ring on one end, but you don't appear on the other end... (Season 5-6 spoiler)
@rodentnolastname66124 жыл бұрын
"Rewatch on a TV" Yeah, the cinematography of The Expanse rivals most film so seeing it on a big screen is warranted
@goscinny19854 жыл бұрын
Suuuuuch a GREAT season! When I watched this episode back in 2018 it made me start reading the books the same night, 1300+ new worlds and a crazy ending, man it's the best. Thanks for spitting out these videos Carly, you're my absolutely favorite Expanse reactor, awesome video!
@montadar14 жыл бұрын
Awesome reaction. You might have missed when he said: you have given us a new frontier, 1300 new habitable systems. Can't wait for you to react to S4. BTW will you react to last kingdom season 4? Always nice to see you!
@Norbert_Sattler4 жыл бұрын
Ashford did not decide to destroy the portal alone. He made the suggestion, but the decision was made by the commanding officers of all three sides, him for the Belters and the commanders of the UN and Mars. The potential harm in shutting down the reactor is that it will take time to get it running agian... more time than they have. If they shut down and it doesn't resolve the issue, they don't have enough time to bring the power to a level where they can shoot the laser in time before the sun is blown up. It was not a "let's try it and if it doesn't work use the laser" situation. It was either one or the other. Either sacrifice yourself for a rational plan or blindly trust the words of a person who appears to be insane. So yeah... his actions made absolute sense for a person in his position. To trust Holden was actually a massive gamble. Who knows what kind of mindscrewers the molecule put him through. For all they knew, the molecule could have made Holden think he was a rabbit if it wanted to. In the end it worked out, but it was still quite the gamble. The new planets are opportunities, but also problems. But I'll not say anything about that since that could easily veer into spoiler territory. It is something the writers did think about and incorporated into their story.
@eliotcougar4 жыл бұрын
The story in the elevator shaft is VERY different in the book... First of all, they've switched places between Ashford and Drummer for some reason... Second of all, no-one's been saved from sacrificing themselves by the moving elevator in the book... That was a big surprise for me when I watched the show after having read the book...
@ProvidenceNL4 жыл бұрын
The Expanse was cancelled somewhere in the middle of season 3, and was picked up by the time this came out. I remember telling my friends to imagine the show still being cancelled and this the last thing we see.
@thomashiggins93204 жыл бұрын
It's a communications LASER, and it would allow the Nauvoo (back when it was still the Nauvoo) to remain in contact with Earth during it's generations-long journey to Alpha Centauri. To get a clear message across interstellar distances, the LASER has to be incredibly powerful. For some more background (in case you're interested in that sort of thing) Isaac Arthur has a great series on seeding the galaxy with generation ships: kzfaq.info/sun/PLIIOUpOge0LskSp9Jac9nE6xSDfZ83Tgf The Nauvoo was designed by the LDS Church to allow them to escape the solar system, and the laws on family size, and go to a place where they could expand their numbers, in keeping with their religious beliefs.
@elroysez83334 жыл бұрын
As for your thoughts on Clarissa not having enough time to flesh out her redemption arc, there is a reason for that. When this show aired, it had great critical acclaim, but pretty poor ratings on the SyFy channel. This is because everyone was streaming it on their own time via Amazon and not through cable viewings via the SyFy channel. Because of the deal they made, and the fact that SyFy wasn't yet embracing the idea of streaming, SyFy was only making money on first run viewings on cable. The producers of the show had a suspicion that they may not get a season 4 out of SyFy due to the low cable ratings, so the story and adaptation of Book 3 (S3E07 - S3E13) was trimmed of excess plot and made to fit in those few episodes. The producers wanted the series to end on a good note for the fans and not in the middle of a storyline that would never be completed. Book one was 15 episodes and Book 2 was 14 episodes. I assume had the writing not been on the wall, season 3 would have been longer. Thankfully of course, the campaign to save it worked and we have a much safer home at Amazon.
@ghostbuddy31064 жыл бұрын
I'm so excited for the upcoming season of The Boys. i bet you're excited too! I can't wait to see your reactions too. ;D
@tonygmichael64344 жыл бұрын
My favourite Sci fi season of any show minus a few TNG & Farscape for it's time.
@rodentnolastname66124 жыл бұрын
Your speculation on where the story goes from here; you're gonna LOVE season 4!!!
@snarflcat61873 жыл бұрын
The laser alignment being off was immediately explained The tech said that the deceleration damage might have knocked it out of alignment
@DoddyIshamel4 жыл бұрын
The harm in the shutting down the reactor would be that they only have so much time before the station nukes the solar system. We know Holden is right but from Ashfords point of view it is a risk he can't take (and indeed maybe it would have worked). From his point of view his plan saves humanity whilst Holdens plan might save humanity temporarily.
@Haegemon4 жыл бұрын
The point is those potential planets to colonize are not virgin, but abandoned after the extinction of the ring network's creators
@andykoegelenberg63764 жыл бұрын
One person to destroy humanity and one person (you had no time for "Clarissa") to save it.
@rodentnolastname66124 жыл бұрын
Naomi and Drummer touch helmets to communicate with out using the vac suit radios, which could be intercepted. It works on sound resonating across the metal on metal contact. Usually you have to shout though.
@kirkdarling41204 жыл бұрын
They first touched helmets right after Eros and the Marines again on Ganymede. I first read about that in 1965 in a book by Robert A Heinlein "Have Space Suit-Will Travel." There is a whole lot in The Expanse that first found its way into fiction in the books of Robert Heinlein and Larry Niven from the 50s and 60s. For instance, the concept of a civilization of asteroid minors called "Belters" is from Larry Niven. The suit technology, "flip and burn" and many other things originated in Heinlein's books.
@rodentnolastname66124 жыл бұрын
@@kirkdarling4120 Check out Jerry Pournelle's essay "those pesky belters and their torchships" written in the early 80's and you'll see most of the setting for The Expanse. Pournelle collaborated with Niven on a few books. "The Mote in God's Eye" being the best IMHO.
@SciFiCatGuy2 жыл бұрын
Drummer and Naomi building the exoskeleton legs epitomize Beltalowda resourcefulness. Yeah, Drummer's in love with Naomi...can you blame her?
@hoos30144 жыл бұрын
Yes, ships can travel back and forth through the ring gates freely. But you never know what quirks this alien technology might have up its sleeve. Also, great thoughts on the ramifications of the ring gate system on Sol system politics.
@peterseizure14644 жыл бұрын
Ashford may have been wrong but from his point of view, he was doing the right thing. The old belter pirate turned into a politician and admiral, to him, the protomolecule was an unknown magical force that almost seems divine, he was willing to sacrafice himself and everyone in the ring to save the solar system.
@andykoegelenberg63764 жыл бұрын
The ring near Uranus just had a multiple ring and its mind blown
@AndresElRey4 жыл бұрын
love all your reactions but i need to look into this show before i watch your reaction i never seen it but everyone mentions it!
@Drewe2234 жыл бұрын
Word of advice, season 1 can be quite slow and it takes a bit to get into it. I kinda had to sit down and make myself binge through the first few episodes before I got hooked. It is absolutely worth it though. This is one of the best things on TV.
@jrm3714 жыл бұрын
It is fantastic. First season is polarizing, but the following 3 seasons are incredible.
@AndresElRey4 жыл бұрын
@@Drewe223 AHH thanks for the heads up! I will def not give up on it so easily now that you told me this...lmao
@jamesholland57614 жыл бұрын
Just like Drew just said! At the beginning this show does a ton of world building! The first half of season 1 is very detailed and worth rewatching! There are no wasted lines or scenes. But this show is rich and so damn well written and directed and everyone from top to bottom put there heart and soul in it! It's pretty awesome!
@AndresElRey4 жыл бұрын
@@jrm371 !!thanks for letting me know im kinda excited to watch it now!
@EdwardLewisIV4 жыл бұрын
Episode 12 and 13 were released on the same night and played as 1 long episode.
@MrJsatrzab4 жыл бұрын
Yes you can come-back just as Roci Crew went back through Sol Ring.
@TranOfficial4 жыл бұрын
Carly's face after Eps. 1-12 = >:( Carly's face after the finale = :O ...
@jamesholland57614 жыл бұрын
Damn it Carly! Another #TheExpanse reaction video? It must be Christmas again! So very thankful! I personally think you chose a good MVP in Anna! And I love her scenes with Amos! Since you have finished season 3 may I please suggest that you watch and react to a fan made youtube video The Expanse Crack and The Expanse Crack 2 by yanheda!? Please! It's an Expanse fan favorite! They are well made and very funny. Even the show runners like them! Thanks again and can't wait to see the next one!
@CybrSlydr4 жыл бұрын
Great reaction video - love seeing you enjoying the show so much! Get strapped in, Season 4 is right up there with a great story! Bit of a slow burn compared to Season 3, but it's absolute FIRE. Amazon money makes it look like a dang Hollywood blockbuster.
@rodentnolastname66124 жыл бұрын
Going through a ring and back; Mars did this already. It was the first thing they did. Sent a probe through and then back out right after The Rosi and torpedo went through.
@Topplethepyramid4 жыл бұрын
Poor Drummer. Getting friend zoned sucks. :(
@ThePharaz3 жыл бұрын
The song Demi Lovato Warrior is so appropriate to a number of characters in this series.
@moproodu4 жыл бұрын
I'd probably be more willing to side with ashford on the behemoth (without knowing what the viewer knows). But damn, people talk about how both hodlden and ashford are trying to do the right thing. No one ever talks about how both options are TERRIBLE. I'd either have to side with ashford, who's plan involves most likely killing everyone in the bubble, or Holden, a man seeing ghosts. I don't think it's fair to call out everyone for entering the ring when nobody asked them. I'd argue that Miller was basically an invitation card. I can't imagine just leaving that thing at the edge of the solar system for the rest of time, never once explored.
@TheVargr4 жыл бұрын
20:50 she hits the nail on the head
@CC-iy6wx4 жыл бұрын
Cool reactions and great editing. I think you will enjoy season 4.
@SixShooterMM3 жыл бұрын
Notice how she cut out scenes where Holden and the others mention that the Station was a threat but not the ones where Ashford does ahahaha
@jimmers1234 жыл бұрын
You definitely need to rewatch this on a big screen at 4K resolution. It’s amazing.
@ericmaddox85164 жыл бұрын
Now you know why it's called 'The Expanse'.
@dapeach064 жыл бұрын
Time for you to watch The Expanse Crack 1 & 2. The actors for Drummer & Naomi ship their characters btw
@hcwm24 жыл бұрын
The breakneck speed of the back half of season 3 is a blessing and a curse. One major casulty is a proper characterbuilding for Melba/Clarissa which is almost completely absent from the show. The book did a much better job there, even though I heard that some people found parts of the book too long and boring. It is a tradeoff I guess. The show made her the older sister, in the book she was the baby sister. Her motivation differs slightly, but it leads to the same outcome. Its a good thing that the show is on streaming going forward, so they don't have to cut down storylines and characters as agressively just so they fit the narrow window of classic TV episodes.
@CybrSlydr4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, SO GLAD you did ep 13 today!!!
@LrnecBuma4 жыл бұрын
I love everything you thought about season 4. You should come back at the end to see how much you got right. Some general science common sense things i thought you may think about is Disease and Gravity. Just think we have had 3 seasons with very solid identitys With Earth mars and the belt. All that fighting. Does it just get forgotten? What happens to Mars comradery? They were united as one. Brothers in arms. Im going to wait until season 4 to say anymore.
@KevinLyda4 жыл бұрын
Oh, and I hope Amazon releases season 5 just as you finish up season 4. Also please watch all of season 4 next week.
4 жыл бұрын
I think they setup the behemont failing when they shot the missile to the Rocinante in 3x08, implying that is not a war ship, but a colonial ship, and is having issues to doing battle things, maybe because as a long travel ship is more suitable to be in low power state for a long time... It make sense?
@Iv4Bez3 жыл бұрын
In the book, they then turned off the power for a long time because the skin, and in General the ship, was not designed for this. It was even mentioned that if rocinante had responded to the attack, It would have simply destroyed them. The most useless warship. In addition, the rail guns had to be removed to spin the drum, and for the best.
@wethepeople66424 жыл бұрын
Awesome Reaction i-Carly. all I can say is I love you.🌹That was definitely the best episode of season three. Can’t wait to watch the rest with you. Ps stop kissing everyone. Lmao 😉
@kirkdarling41204 жыл бұрын
Now, wasn't that good? Clarissa inserted the power module backwards because, remember, Ren had told her doing so would shut down the entire system. Discovering the Americas did not change the politics of Europe. The people in power will strive to minimize disruptions that would Amazon's saving The Expanse was high suspense itself. We knew from some of the production people the date that the sets were to be destroyed (because the studio space was immediately needed for other productions). It was actually a last-minute save by Amazon. And, yes...in Season Four there will be a moment you will think, "Holy shit, they mentioned that in, like, episode one." As well as stuff from other episodes. But I'm not going to tell you when that will happen. But now, Carly, you gotta check out the two "cracks" on The Expanse. They're hilarious. Also check out "Women of the Expanse."
@mten10th673 жыл бұрын
It's a very unfair to call anybody in this situation a dumbass, especially Ashford. He doesn't have all the information that we as viewers have, and he is making decisions accordingly. These characters are in an unprecedented situation, and Holden is fortunate enough to have first hand knowledge, but who outside of the Rocinante crew and Bobbie actually knows that Holden is a good person acting in everyone's best interests?
@wilfredomartinezmaecha79814 жыл бұрын
. love your reactions...
@silgen4 жыл бұрын
It's photons, which is what light is made out of, and they travel AT the speed of light in whatever medium they are in, e.g. 186,282 miles per second in a vacuum.
@teambanzai94914 жыл бұрын
Solar system is only used in regards to our own star. The more correct term is star system. Yes, the Ring opened up two-way travel to 1300 habitable star systems to humanity and overnight, humans evolves from being an interplanetary species to an interstellar one. The Behemoth, in its previous life as the LDSS Nauvoo, was supposed to be the first generational interstellar ship for humanity but now, interstellar travel is practically instantaneous. You are correct that this will have a social impact on humans. None more so than on Martian society. Until now, Martians have been working with one goal in mind, terraforming Mars. Now the motivation for that will change.Why spend generations of work to transform Mars when you can just pick a habitable planet to settle? The protomolecule isn't harmless. If a human is contaminated, the protomolecule will start to convert the person into the biomass it needs to complete its mission. Stay away from the blue goo! Lastly, I too, shared the same apprehension that Drummer was going to sacrifice herself against Diogo. I was like, nooooo! You can't kill one of the best characters on the show! Especially after she took the trouble of getting herself in an exoskeleton in order to walk. Thankfully, the elevator > Diogo.
@JakobStrasser4 жыл бұрын
Season 4 hype! And post production on season 5 is almost done (according to James S Corey) so probably will be out december.
@Drewe2234 жыл бұрын
Really? That's awesome, I was worried Covid would mess up filming.
@J.D....4 жыл бұрын
@@Drewe223 i believe they litterally finished right before the pandemic happened.
@Drewe2234 жыл бұрын
@@J.D.... fantastic.
@yellowdevil83964 жыл бұрын
such a great show. not subbed but still much love from germany^^
@sverebom70694 жыл бұрын
Naaaah, the elevator is beating the shit out of Diogo ... and spreading it at the bottom of an elevator shaft.