unfortunately not very good actors. not talking about all shows must have superstars . some of the actors can't act if their life depended on it . sgt Draper for example or Holden his angry intense parts are comedic. but the show is so good it helps bearing the horrible acting.

The characters are idiots and unlikable. Average show

Chie Nghipandulwa holdup, she’s even more of a badass in the books

Thanks man.

The majority of the damage to her suit was from the explosion (in the books at least).

The only major problem with the Expanse, not enough Bobby!

Yuk

@Angel majorjoy, that guy was the inventor of the Epstein drive, which is the technology that allowed ships to travel at multiple g-forces and allowed humanity to expand their scope into the belt. He exponentially increased the speed at which space travel could happen, and therefore humans were able to expand beyond just the Earth and Mars. He's like the equivalent of their Edison who invented electricity and spurred the industrial revolution.

@@brandiebraxton4232 So there wasn't really a point? They just decided to randomly dedicate large parts of an episode to the guy that invented a better propulsion system? ...strange.

Absolutely. Defiance really lifted its game in the last season and I was sad to see it end rather abruptly. A fourth season set partly in space would have been fucking tops mate.

Yeah nah cheers cobber, just giving it a bloody go eh. Top show mate, top show.

was gonna wait and binge but I can't, so starting season 3 first 2 episodes, needed a refresher, yours was funny and informing chur bro, from new zealand

Paul Taylor Hmmm. I think so. That story was an adaptation of the short story 'Drive' by James S.A. Corey (Authors of the books the show is based on). I don't want to spoil anything just in case but there are numerous references to the Epstein drive (which power most of the space ships in the expanse) and that flash back story tells of it's creation by Solomon Epstein. Along with the main series of books James S.A. Corey wrote a bunch of novellas set in the same universe to accompany the main plot. It seems like they will add these into the TV adaptation as well :)

Nothing wrong with showing how some of the tech came into being. That's one of the fun things about scifi.

The classic book VS show argument will transcend time and space man. The books are very similar to the show so you could skip them for sure without missing too much story in this rare case. That being said, the books have so much more detail and the characters are far more fleshed out. The books are very funny too and there are some great third person descriptions and analysis of the world and humanity in general that you simply can't recreate in a show as the only dialogue are from spoken words from characters. In the books you have the characters thoughts and feelings described as well as the authors thoughts and options too which you simply cant replicate on screen. I can't see into the future but based on what we have seen so far and what I predict is that you won't lose much main story by skipping the books but you will miss out on excellent writing and richer scenes and characters. I love the books, I love the show. If you are a fan, read them all, watch it all, masturbate to it all :D

I'm reading book 1 after I've seen the first 2 seasons as well. I don't mind it as the book has a lot of detail and the differences between the book and show so far don't really ruin it for me, they are minor.

Raketemensch 00000 Bobby in the books was massive. Like twice the size of this actor. Meant to be physically terrifying and intimidating. So it's not that bold of a casting choice really. In fact many book nerds are upset that she's too thin and too small lol. As far as the proto molecule is concerned I can't say shit without revealing too much. We learn more as the books/show continues dont worry. And yeah the let's just say the proto molecule is a part of something much larger, something that transcends our own dimensional understanding of the cosmos... ive said too much already :O

"Bobby in the books was massive" Oh, ha. I guess that's that. Don't know why i didn't think to check that against the source material. Anyway thanks for that info, and leaving the protomolecule to my imagination for the time being.

She wasn't twice the size, but yes she was big and did tower over most people.

YO DUDE! I just re-watched that scene. In the books, and in the show, Miller tells Julie "We can't go home." (meaning earth). She says in reply "We can't stop the work." She is referring to the "prime directive" of the proto-molecule (I cannot discuss this in more detail sorry.) Miller tells Julie "That's fine, how about we go to Venus." So yes, 100% Miller convinces Julie to change course and intentionally fly Eros into Venus. Julie also touched the nuke and infects it with the proto-molecule, this seemingly disables it as when she removes her hand the dead man switch doesn't start beeping again. So yeah dude, Miller saves the day by convincing Julie to crash Eros into Venus. COOL!

Overlooked the part that Julie indeed disabled the bomb. This "prime directive" of the proto-molecule does tickle my curiosity. Do you think it will be addressed in S3 or will that be further along in the story? Anyways, thanks for answering.

Topplethepyramid It's hard to say if they will explain all in season 3. We no doubt will see much more development regarding the protoo-molecule but as the books and the seasons don't line up exactly it's hard to predict. For example Avasarala wasn't even in the first book but was in season 1 right from the get go.

In the book, and maybe in the show as well, it is actually Holden who suggests to Miller that he convince Julie to fly Eros into Venus.

Space is big. It is not easy to accidentally run into Venus when you're aiming at Earth. Hell, it's hard to even hit anything. We've sent spacecraft through "the belt" without even calculating whether they would collide with anything because the odds are so low. The Expanse knows how to do orbital mechanics. Hitting Venus was not a coincidence.

SCAPEGOAT... One word..

Nah man. It's ESCAPE goat. When you need to get out of a tight spot you call in an escape goat, then you ride it to freedom!

"This is the way!"

Haha same i was pretty stoked when he died haha

Yep that's right friend. You just earned 3 internet points. Well done. Pat yourself on the back :)

Well they have to do abaddon's gate, because it's the conclusion of the first two books.

atllantiss A lot of the points you bring up may or may not be relevant to the overall story. Sure, it might aid in world building but so could a lot of other potentially more plot relevant story elements. I can’t really judge how the lack of extensive world building since I’ve mostly just watched the show and as an adaptation of a book, there’s bound to be differences due to the medium. You also ask how an advanced civilization can have genetic diseases. This requires a lot of scientific understanding but simply put, it’s not that simple. Just because you’re born with the “perfect genome” doesn’t ensure you’ll grow into the “perfect specimen.” Similarly with quantum computers, people tend to think they are something they’re not. Q comps will likely never replace good ol regular computers because of how they are fundamentally dissimilar. They approach computing very differently and as such have their own sets of adv/disadv that make each suited to their own sets of tasks. Some of the points you bring up do seem relevant though. Like does the world have robots and intelligent ai. Thus far it doesn’t seem like it because if they did, there wouldn’t be a need for belters. We’d also see references to any shipboard ai within everyday happenings on said ship, but we don’t. So the obvious thing to conclude is that this world doesn’t have that kind of tech. Doesn’t really explain why, other than belters as a faction are needed for plot reasons. We’re just left acknowledging these things likely don’t exist or aren’t for whatever reason can’t be used in the capacity we’re imagining.

@@sphaera2520 I can understand and agree with you to some extent that the plot doesn't really need many of the things I've said mentioned. But it would help a lot to the overall world building as you say. But I don't agree with you about the 'perfect genome'. It doesn't make sense. I have plenty of medical knowledge to tell you that an unborn baby with a healthy genome (as in no genetic diseases) doesn't magically get genetic diseases (inherited or uninherited) unless some major external factors are present. There could still be some minor DNA alterations during the pregnancy, but those are something else, minor in importance (for example getting a higher chance of developing high blood pressure later in life). We have just started curing some genetic diseases.

atllantiss What I mean to get at with the genetics is that this subject is quite complex and we have only just scratched the surface. Only (relatively) recently did we decode human dna. We’ve made some progress into determining where certain genes are located and which ones are risk factors for certain diseases. But a lot still remains unknown and how some risk factor gene develops the disease and overall mechanism of action is still poorly understood. As far as I know we haven’t really unlocked a comprehensive understanding of epigenetics either. We have a base understanding in some areas how gene expression works and how it might be controlled, but those are essentially giant brush strokes in a very intricate and detailed subject. Furthermore there’s random mutations that naturally occur and how the the system self regulates these naturally occurring deviations. Etc etc. All this to say, we don’t really know where the science will lead us in the future. Sure, it’s bound to progress and we will be able to do many things we can’t do now. But simultaneously unlocking new knowledge generally leads to the realization that you’ve only just scratched the surface and there’s still plenty you haven’t figured out yet. I can’t recall where I saw it but there was some quote back in the day where certain scientists thought we were on the cusp of figuring out all of physics. We only needed a little additional refining they thought, how naive they were. In the context of the show, their advancements can allow them to do a lot. We saw them treat deadly doses of radiation among other medical marvels by our current standards. This is similar to how our own modern advancements allow us to do far more than they could back in the early 20th century. If you showed a medical professional back in 1920s what we can do today, I wouldn’t be surprised if they jumped to a similar conclusion you have. “Look at all the tech, knowledge, practical experience you have,” he’d say, “surely you’ve eradicated all forms of disease.” He’d be terribly mistaken. Edit: In a way he would not be entirely wrong (the 1920s doctor), we have learned how to deal with a lot of the issues they were struggling to even comprehend back then. Polio, measles, smallpox, etc are a thing of the past, and unless anti vaxxers get their way so will a lot of other basic ailments. But simultaneously that knowledge came with greater understanding of other things we hadn’t even realize existed. Additionally, our greater ability also lead to the creation of new problems. Extremely resistant bacteria and other problems caused by the very advancements of society.

There was a warning at the start. Sorry you missed it. Personally I don't understand a person who can watch a show where people get shot to death, mutated, mutilated and violated in the most grotesque ways possible yet gets offended by mere words... says something about the nature of a man doesn't it. Violence OK! Curse words NOT OK!

Mark Gregory shit fuck donkey balls

You're speaking too fast!

@@JakesPlace i am giving you feed back, telling you the reason you may lose many subscribers around the world! And your answer is irony??? hahaha ok....