It really sucks

With this generation’s level of apathy towards the functions of life, i can’t tell if these replies are puns or not and I’m distraught.

tell me, why does it sound so easy to breath on the internet?

That statement is found to be misleading by fact checkers. Don't be a Nazi obey authoritarian government wear a mask at all time's even when alone or at home it rhymes so it most be smart kids.

@@beareble-lion4446 Found to conspiracy theorist

In the 1800s Greeks: Can you stop yet? Venice: Yeah, sure you are pretty broke now. OH GOD IT'S NAPOLEON- *death*

@@whoknows7968 looking at modern European economics, it doesn't look like it ever stopped...

@@dynamicworlds1 The kicking stopped, however the recovery is yet to take place.

@@whoknows7968 it's less overtly violent, but enforced austerity begs to differ, I'm afraid.

Byzantine Empire: "When will you stop hurting me?" Enrico Dandolo: "When we are finished, dare I say it, robbing you BLIND? Mmmm...?"

Then beg

Crassus: Did someone say GOOOOLD

Given that gold keeps getting recycled, and that some percentage of gold in your phone is Roman, I'd say so.

You're not wrong this makes me cry

I would argue that it was, along with the first crusade, one of the largest real-life DnD campaigns in history. I mean, the crusaders were effectively murder hobos out for getting loot, and the Venetians gave them a pretty cool quest...

​@@magmat0585 Oh god, this entire story now makes so much more sense. The crusades were just a bunch of guys (kids at heart) out to play hero.

The fourth crusade was largely mercenaries.

Byzantiboos unite!

Blue and I share this despair.

@@fifthcanuck1128 same lol

@@mayoandbananasandwich6527 same

Man, having the Venitians and the Byzantines fighting. It's like your two favorite kids going at it. Nobody wins in end. Mainly because Daddy Ottoman Empire amd Uncle Napoleon comes home and smacks everyone around

_I sense it too._

Man, I know much of his words and deeds during the siege are romanticized, but I will go to the grave putting Constantine XI in my "top 5 baddasses of all time" list. You just can't help but root for a man with absolute conviction of his heritage, and ready and willing to fight to the end to defend it. I am not at all surprised that the legend that he survived and waits to free Constantinople from subjugation rose so quickly after his death; that's a powerful story for a heroic (in Greek/Roman/a dumb American's eyes) last stand.

followed William III's advice. You will never see your country fall if you die in the last ditch.

This guy is the reason why there are still Greeks nowadays. His legend kept the Byzantine legacy alive.

What a Chad

@@calebsorensen1921 honestly this is the good version of the battle of Berlin.

What do you mean Venice is great

@@denizmergen418Venice _is_ great, but that 4th Crusade does sour it a bit.

@@foldabotZ yeah

lmao

"Where is Rome?" *points at Constantinople* "Where's Byzantium?" *points in the same spot* "... O...kay."

Ottomans pulling your heart: Yeah I’m sure

@@stantorren4400 The Ottoman occupation will end sooner or later.

@@stantorren4400 **declares war on the ottomans**

Shit, we need captain byzantium! He shall smite the turkish and venetians with his kite shield!

@@leonardofranzinribeiro4220 he’d be Roman. He’d spend most of his time punching himself in the face

I don’t blame him.... deep down, every true and honest historian is a Byzantophile and I never wanna set foot in Venice.

He loves it too much to lie on its behalf. He knows how much better it should have been.

"I would rather see a Turkish turban in the midst of the City (i.e., Constantinople) than the Latin mitre", probably Loukas Notaras

I don't think they were too worried. They already had another Roman Empire back in Europe

Hello there

Obi wan Kenobi same

@@odie-wankenodie8607 General Kenodie. You're a bold one.

Op

If into the recordings you go, only pain you will find.

True fact: the Romans still survived in a sense after Constantinople's fall - Mehmet really pushed the idea that he was continuing the Romans Empire, pushing heavily the title of kayser-i-Rum: Caesar Of Rome. He claimed the emperorship the old way: through loose blood ties that made him a Roman by blood and by right of conquest upon the capital. The Principality of Theodoro in the Crimea was the last Roman rump state, and fell in 1475. No, I'm not counting the Empire of Trezibond, they withdrew their claim sometime during the Palaiologos Dynasty. The Mani Peninsula under the Despotate of Morea was never conquered under the Ottomans, instead becoming a tributary state (that is debatable that they ever actually paid their tribute) and was among the first to declare independence against the Ottomans. While the battle flag of the Greeks was "freedom or death", the Maniotes had the flag of "victory or death" - because they were always free. They only joined the Greeks by having their family clans being bribed into it. Similarly, Sfakia in Crete was never controlled by Ottoman OR Venetian hands, even when the Venetians retired to build a fort nearby - most sfakians either minded their own business or ran to the mountains. The Anatolian Greeks under Turkey occasionally identify as Rum - Roman. During the 1910's Balkan wars, the Greek Navy hopped on the island of Lemnos one of the sailors noticed the Lemnian children staring at them "What are you looking at?" Asked the sailor "Hellenes" replied the child. "We speak the same language! So what are you?" Replied the sailor. The response? "Romans"

The monks on Mt Athos definitely didn't hear no bell...they still flag the imperial Byzantine flag

GO AGANE - The Byzantines, while getting ganked on simultaniously by Ottomans, Normans, Venitians, Latins, Byzantines and the PLAGUE

Russia to Rome "Don't worry Mother Russia will carry you papa." Also Russia "Wait why are those peasant carrying hammer and sickle?" Rome Facepalms.

@@utubrGaming No genuine scholar will ever recognize an Ottoman's barbaric claim to the Imperium of Rome.

I honestly think this is where most of the anti-Western sentiment that hangs around in Orthodox parishes comes from.

I mean the plot was lost from the start, its poetic that the whole debacle was only resolved when Richard and Saladin brokered a treaty that basically let people come and go with nominal ownership being more formality then anything.

@@RaghnaidAnnaNicGaraidh obviously. This was a great betrayal and hypocrisy of the West. And not only this, but also during the Great Turkish war in 1699, where the Greek rebels in Morea were literally sold off to the Ottomans (who took the Greek leaders, ripped their bodies in two with spears, and then stuffed them with wheat and stiched them, parading them in the streets before burning down the cities and villages. The pain of this still exists in Greece. This is why all the heroes of the Greek revolution sided with the Russians instead of the British and French, a feat which earned them a nice place in prison post 1830. This is why even today Greece refuses to cooperate with Western bailout programmes, because we know they're out to cheat us with no tomorrow

@@RaghnaidAnnaNicGaraidh It is true.

Technically the first crusade saved the byzantine empire and allowed them to reconquer some land in Anatolia

History was memeing before memes were a thing

I could cry when looking at my like dislike ratio. I have so many jealous people that my videos always get way more dislikes than likes. Please don't be jealous, dear pran

@@AxxLAfriku I'm sorry, what?

@@AxxLAfriku That's alright I'm not jealous 😁

It's a sound afffffffffect hummmmmmmm!

Perfect lmfao

You sir, have my respect! Although my respect doesn't really mater

You sir, have my respect! Although my respect doesn't really mater

Must be something in the water around Constantinople, considering the successor Ottomans did the same danm thing.

no truer words have been spoken.

οοφ

it's falling with style.

The literal 1000 year Oof

Oof at 0.0000005 speed

Isn't it the exact opposite?

Pointy Noodle they defended eastern europe from muslims as soon as they fell to the ottomans they took eastern europe by storm

@@pointynoodleDepends on how you define it I guess.

Shouldn’t these romans cry in Greek?

same

If it makes you feel any better, some elements of the Roman identity survive. Mehmet really pushed the idea that he was continuing the Romans Empire, pushing heavily the title of kayser-i-Rum: Caesar Of Rome. He claimed the emperorship the old way: through loose blood ties that made him a Roman by blood and by right of conquest upon the capital. This means in a sense, including the retention of Byzantine administration, the Ottomans really were a continuation of the Roman Empire. The Principality of Theodoro in the Crimea was the last Roman rump state, and fell in 1475. No, I'm not counting the Empire of Trezibond, they withdrew their claim sometime during the Palaiologos Dynasty. The Mani Peninsula under the Despotate of Morea was never conquered under the Ottomans, instead becoming a tributary state (that is debatable that they ever actually paid their tribute) and was among the first to declare independence against the Ottomans. While the battle flag of the Greeks was "freedom or death", the Maniotes had the flag of "victory or death" - because they were always free. They only joined the Greeks by having their family clans being bribed into it. Similarly, Sfakia in Crete was never controlled by Ottoman OR Venetian hands, even when the Venetians retired to build a fort nearby - most sfakians either minded their own business or ran to the mountains. The Anatolian Greeks under Turkey occasionally identify as Rum - Roman. This still happens to this day. During the 1910's Balkan wars, the Greek Navy hopped on the island of Lemnos one of the sailors noticed the Lemnian children staring at them "What are you looking at?" Asked the sailor "Hellenes" replied the child. "We speak the same language! So what are you?" Replied the sailor. The response? "Romans" And apparently, Mount Athos still flies the Byzantine flag.

Man, that marble dust gets everywhere.

@@zacharymarlow8161 . . . Well either greek or ARMENIAN like for real armenians played a big role in the Byzantine empire.

Byzantion is constantinople

Crusade? That's just being a Viking, but for Jesus!

@@utubrGaming I support renaming the crusaders “Jesus Vikings”.

Jesus told us to loot and pillage it's in the bible, trust me man, I'd never make it up so I could steal your shit

A history nut?

@@mayoandbananasandwich6527 yeah he nuts to history

@@wooshmeifurgay7452 that’s the joke

I can attest that that is about accurate since that exact scenario (1 nat20 and several nat1's) has happened to me several times.

@@thekeeloking7269 I have rolled a 1 on a d100 thrice in a row, those are odds that SHOULD NOT BE.

@@banrajanand7983 Indeed, RNJesus left you at that time and that is a truely worrying thought. lol

@@banrajanand7983 100*100*100= dicejail

Not at all. There was just some permenant wisdom damage inflicted sometime after Justinian. Edit: also, Byzantine luck was kinda awful most of the time.

Yes. Actually around 1460s.

@Light Yagami Afaik the timeline is Constantinople 1st, Morea 2nd, Epirus 3rd, Trebizond 4th, and Theodoro 5th

They abandoned their claim to the Empire during the Palaiologos reign

Constantinople to Rome: Your were my brother, you were supposed to destroy the infidels, not join them!

There's two obi wan.

"This is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them!"

Did you get a decent grade?

Hehehehehe

Ba dum tsss

In fact, the King of Spain still uses the title of Duke of Athens to this day. For some reason. Also, I'd like to add that Catalonia was part of the Crown of Aragon.

@@rodrigogascagomez5190 Well I mean technically the King of Spain still has the title of Roman Emperor too doesn't he? Didn't one of the remaining palaiologoi sell it to him?

It's called Catalonian-Aragonese Crown

@@flavivsaetivs5738 When? Where? By whom?

@@Neolazaro91 it's a modern historiographic term, much like "Byzantine".

Yes

Yes

Yes

existence is pain after all

Never before have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with.

Yup, it's because they were Romans. Byzantine is a fake name and disgrace to the Roman civilization.

As opposed to boy king Romulus Augustus. (Then again, there is also Julius Nepos).

A Greek Roman, to be exact.

@@chm5750 But he died like a Roman nonetheless.

@@lukecarlson4710 What does that even mean? he died like a Roman, he died like a Greek., He died like a hero, period.

@@chm5750 Yes. Maybe when someone replies to your comment, don’t immediately take it personally. My original comment is pointing to the fact that Constantine was last seen fighting when the Ottomans breeches the wall, it is likely that he died while fighting for his city and his people. If you look at older Roman sources from the Republic, one of the most honorable ways to die was to die in service to Rome. Therefore, Constantine died like an honorable, courageous Roman. Which I thought was fitting seeing how he’s the past Emperor of the Eastern remains of the Roman Empire. Do you get it now? I know that little things like nuance and complexity can get lost on social media message boards.

Sometimes the best way to preserve the lives of your soldiers is to fight the enemy commander in a duel like a total boss.

Where did you learn that?

@@HeroLanding I believe it was a Kings and Generals video about one of the Islamic attacks against Constantinople. There's an anecdote about a Muslim captain proclaiming "I AM THE KILLER OF CHRISTIANS, WHO DARES FACE ME?" and a Byzantine officer stepped forward. The two fought to the death in front of their armies. The muslim won, and the Muslim army won the battle

@@PcCAvioN Oh, thanks. That sounds awesome, I'll do some research!

@@PcCAvioN you realized infidel dosent mean christian but means a person that is infiltrating and causing harm ryt

It was, indeed, over... Well, from a certain point of view.

Ultimately his cannons didn’t win him the battle; neither did his “walking ships” plan either. Even so it came down to his personal elite to sack Constantinople because Italian mercenary’s were to OP and slaughter the entirety of his army. Literally ottomans had to have 100,000 soldiers against 7,000 Romans, had to have the worlds largest cannons designed and built and got repelled for 2 months by chad Constantine the 11th (whose “empire” only consisted of Constantinople itself and some minor forts outside the city walls.) and some good Italian boys; reading Muslims response is so hilarious for them to think their mightiest empire could even compare to the Byzantines at their weakest is so funny!

@@RedVelvetBlackleather numbers are not important when you defend the most fortified city in the world . No one ever before break the Theodosian Walls or ever pass the chains in golden horn, so yes big cannons and walking ships made them win.

@@berkkarakas4762 Ignore him, he's just another butthurt keyboard individual who thinks a regime that had been reduced to ruling a city that was in shambles, debt and near ruin should've somehow survived into the 21st century while remaining in that state. He'd prefer that over it being passed on to a new civilization that immediately went to work restoring the city and making it even more grandiose than ever before with more buildings dedicated to God, markets, baths, palaces, more buildings, more markets and not to mention introducing religious coexistence for not just Christians, Muslims and (for the first time ever) Jews but even for their various denominations and is ultimately one of the most visited cities of world, attracting millions in tourism annually in the present day and age.

@@berkkarakas4762 it's definitely important, because , at one point on , fewer and fewer men are available in order to guard the walls and most importantly repair them .

Hitler grins

SHUT UP, ROME IS ROME GODDAMNIT

Why not both?

With turk genocide

@wanka wanka you Will remeber this Words in 12 islands

@@ufuker5754 Huh...? Are you in some nationalistic horseshit that no one cares about?

@@thehermit8723 I dont think so hes just mentioning the genocide I mean greece wouldve had a far higher population if it werent for it

Deus _Yippi Kay Yay_ Vult

1204 is also a very shitty year

513 would like to have a word with you

@@yammoto148 Only years above 800 can join the chat. We are not creeps here.

@@maddoctorscientist9472 huh?

Fake fall of Rome

bro straight up excommunicated the entire Crusader army

Skarloey from Blue Mountain Mystery: WHAT DID YOU DO?!

They got the wrong patriarches city 😂

lol

Ah good ole’ tarqi-tarq super-bus

Thank you for your approval, Turtle. We love you! :)

100 likes for you

All hail the mighty Turtle. Every word filled with wisdom

You are a good Turtle, and we stand together in your sentiment.

It was East Rome Empire not Byzantine. It was established and raised by LATINS!!! Respect to history! no more fake byzantine name !!! 🇮🇹

I thought the Byzantine Empire thought the HRE was a bunch of posers.

They all THOUGHT of themselves as Roman, which was enough for them to start conquering stuff

Blue won't be able to get through a detailed view of the HRE without dying of massive brain hemorrhage

@@seanpoore2428 Hell at least the HRE had the pontifex maximus as a source of some legitimacy, the Tsars didn't even have that.

See I left this comment specifically to troll Blues extreme love of Rome, but after hearing him rant (correctly might I add) about how un-roman all these posers are on the OSP podcast, I would Love to see a blue-rant video breaking down all of the Roman empires numerous false successors.....Roman epilogue episode lol

D Cubed same

same

yes

Last ep was bad but ep 1204 was the worst

It’s okay rewind to the Justin arc it’s easily the best portion of the story.

Basil the 2nd was a great character as well

kshitij srivastava yes

Trebizond and the Komnenos were always better than the incompetent palaiologos in Nicaea

Well, I have to admit, the Blue Mosque in Istanbul is very impressive.

@@dantetre Thank you....I guess😅 Yes, I always found it quite beautiful too. Glad you liked it!

@@chyren_ran i really liked that instead of converting the Helgia Sophia the turks instead built something as great as a mosque. Can't imagine thr politicking over the recent conversion

@@neloverg3774 yea... I compeletely agree. I think Hagia Sophia shouldn't be a mosque but should stay as a museum telling the story of many civilizations throughout history.

It shows that humans love domes, regardless of culture. I can't wait for the current unpleasantness to end so I can finally pay a visit to all those domes.

@Justin Goetz yeah i found out in this video lol

Where I cry: _fall of the Ottoman Empire_

@@legoleviathan6411 I found the Turk

Were do girl-historians cry?

@@Flatian the same place as every other historian

They do say that reality is stranger than fiction.

Well damn I just noticed 😳 the poetic and symbolic irony

Noted, don't name your emperor after your founder

Not only, Rome began as a city and ended as a city.