I know right

it truly was a fun moment in time

I kept replaying it

You ever get random memories and are like wtf did that from from? I got a flashback to Harloff’s artful usage of “fartbox on wheels” to describe batman and robin. Maybe life is just a dream

Sean is a great guy and a great KZfaqr

@@JayVaters what do you think of Campea

@@onlygiovanniallthetime campea is not bad

Campea was the mastermind of Movie Talk and he still brings that feel every week. I miss all the personalities of Movie Talk together on the panel. I’m still baffled as to why Marc Fernandes decided to do to Collider what he did. The world of internet movie news seems like a volatile industry. The SEN Network channel has actually returned to the old Schmoes Know style though

Campea was probably my least favorite from the Golden Era of Collider Movie Talk but he's the only 1 with a quality daily show with that similar format so I watch him from time to time. It just goes to show you that it takes the perfect mix of talent to make shows work. Campea, Harloff, Mark Ellis, Perri, Ashley, Dennis or even Robert Meyer Burnett could come together and do a daily or weekly show and the 100K - 300K views would come back. #strongertogether #ripschnepp

That was a great era for the schmoes

That was what killed it or rather what started their downfall.

Those were fun

Box office predictions or countdowns! Those were entertaining

I fully agree

What happened to Robert?

@@SnorkyO Last year, when retired police officer David Dorn was killed amidst the BLM riots, Robert Meyer Burnett got on an admittedly vicious yet understandable rant on Twitter. RB3 called him out on that but RMB didn't back down and a heated argument ensued. Other Schmoedown people jumped in to back RB3, with him and Dorina comparing RMB (a Jewish man, mind you) to a N*zi and Clarke Wolfe literally calling him "trash" and a mansplainer. Instead of trying to diffuse the tension and have them shake hands, Kristian sided with the mob and expelled RMB after the most awkward and embarassing podcast I have ever seen, in which he and Brett Sheridan were tiptoeing around the issue and deliberately ignoring burning questions from fans like myself asking "hang on a minute, if you fire RMB for inappropriate language and behavior, why not fire RB3, Clarke Wolfe, Dorina and all the people who insulted him and encouraged a twitter mob to go after him?". That was the proverbial straw for me. Later on - but it's only my personal opinion - it came back to my mind that while a liberal himself, RMB has always been cordial if not friendly with more conservative youtubers, such as Jeremy from Geeks and Gamers (an outspoken Trump supporter), Midnight's Edge and Heel vs Baby Face (him and Az do a weekly action figure show). Coincidence? I think he paid the price for his open-mindedness and that the raging leftists that are RB3, Wolfe and Andreyko were just waiting for the opportunity to kick him out. Again, just my personal theory. What's for sure is that RMB hasn't changed a bit, he is still his awesome self, doing shows with Campea as well as the aforementioned channels, and that he is probably well rid of these so-called "tolerant" and "inclusive" LA people who back-stabbed him.

Totally agree! Couldn't have said it better myself.

@@b.chaline4394 I still watch Kristian's SEN content to this day and will continue to do so along with the Schmoedown, but I agree with your take on the way RMB was treated. I'm not on Twitter but I heard there was backlash and a back-and-forth, thanks for those details. I know RB3 is a major leftist and overreacts but didn't know about Dorina, Andreyko, and Clarke Wolfe getting involved. The way they axed him from the Schmoedown and all of them in general still doesn't sit will with me and was a total pile of bullshit. RMB was great for the Schmoedown and at the worst should've just taken a break from the league before returning. Still wish he was there.

The good old days were the best

Totally agree

You’re right

The bubble of the movie hype machine that collider hitched their wheels to popped after The Last Jedi. People were just done giving a shit

Its just not the same anymore which is a shame

I can pinpoint it, the release of The Last Jedi, and the failure of collider and schmoes know to adequately criticize clearly a trash movie, was the beginning of the end

@@shawne7228 Possibly. It probably tied in with woke culture as well. The general feeling of being-scared-to-say-anything-TOO-harsh incase they stopped getting press invites to movie premieres came across too.

@@gzz8551 bingo! It was gas lighting us into telling us that the Last Jedi wasn't that bad. I watched The Last Jedi once and I never watched another Disney Star Wars movie again. You don't need to spit in my face twice

@@shawne7228 You should watch Rise of Skywalker…and film your reaction. 😂

I appreciate that! Thank you.

Yeah the old show was classic

I agree

Very true

I know, God that idiot was useless and annoying

Yeh white people find that kind of commentary annoying and do not want to hear it you're correct. Which us of course the majority of the audience

@@abyoungrome136 Not just white people, lol. Think harder.

@@vaibhavgaur5268 generally speaking. U shud know this

John Campea was smart enough to see it and leave before it all fell.

I think Jeremy Jahns and Chris stuckman not living in the LA area and just been sporadic guess is what made them stay away from the behind the scenes drama that was going on with the schmoes, collide, etc.

Yeah I enjoy Chris Stuckmann still but his energy isn’t the same

I miss that era early 2010s

@@NTEDOG561 Me too.

Thanks for watching and I haven’t checked out the new show yet but I’ll check it out

What happened to SEN Live? I used to watch in the beginning but fell off when Covid happened. I don't even see the old shows available anymore?

I'm not sure

Yup

I agree

Me too

He’s still commonly reviewing movies. But I do agree he lost his sense of energy and even his thumbnails aren’t very creative anymore as nearly all of them just have the same blank smile.

@@supermariofan03 Well yeah. Although when Covid started and he’s was reviewing older movies like Indiana Jones, it actually kinda does go back to old times.

@Yanis Kaps And which part is that?

"Just why did they stop reviewing movies and started doing others things? " They wanted to expand and change things up. They didn't just want to sit in front of a camera and give reviews and then move onto the next. They wanted more in depth conversations.

What if they feel what they are doing now is their best? Going back to what they used to do might not be possible.

@@Theprophet524 they may be enjoying this much more than before which is completely fair, but if they want a big audience again i think they need to go back to their roots. i dont see why that wouldnt be possible!

@@24Argie " i think they need to go back to their roots. i dont see why that wouldnt be possible!" They're at different points in their lives. Even when it came to doing Collider Live Ellis wasn't around as much because he's doing comedy full time. He didn't want to be on air multiple times a week. Even a good portion of the cast is off doing their own thing. It's hard to recapture something of the past because people eventually grow out of it.

@@Theprophet524 yeah mark was no longer able to commit that was why he stopped doing movie talk. I don’t see why they couldn’t do straight up review videos anymore though. That’s why a lot of people became fans of them. I don’t want to listen to a two hour show just to find out their opinions. They could at least release parts of the show as separate videos like John campea does

@@24Argie "I don’t see why they couldn’t do straight up review videos anymore though. " They probably don't want to. They probably feel that form of content is not something they want to spend time and energy on. They have joined the podcast wave which is filled with a lot of people but this is the path they have chosen. "They could at least release parts of the show as separate videos like John campea does" They could do that. It would be easier for people to digest.

Also this brought me back. You have my sub my friend 👏

Thanks for watching

That's ridiculous, but it wouldn't surprise me

Me too

Yeah, what happened to him? Why did he drop off?

@@clamsmahoney5292 don’t know for sure but I would guess he has depression issues. He was never the same after that girl Brittaney left him a couple years back.

Flick Pick's an interesting one, my guess would be KZfaq is more of a hobby than it is a job for him, that's why you see a guy like Jeremy Jahns put out 5 times the amount of reviews he does, plus I don't think he has too much passion for most modern movies that's why he'll always just reference random 80s movies instead, I have to imagine personal issues effected him and with his energy it'd be hard to always put on a brave face like that, but if you look at his second channel now, instead of just reviewing a movie everyone's already talked about he normally just does random live streams of him talking about stuff and its pretty fun stuff so if he's happy doing that then good for him.

Flick pics 2 channels are still great. He's still funny a f.

He stop making as much content like flick trips, movie night and even reviews. He still does that but just not as much.

Me too

Definitely not

Harloff has a new channel and he has reviewed a few movies

Angry joe is painful

He does but he’s not the same anymore, I loved his movie nights, blu ray trips and movie reviews

@@JayVaters I agree. And I believe the only reason he does Q & A every once in a while, is because people throw money at him.

I miss the old school Schmoes

You have a good point

I disagree, other channels which talk about these movies are growing and getting thousands of subscribers and views. The MCU discussion has only gotten bigger with Wanda Vision and Spider-Man discussions.

@@manikantasrao7868 I think the issue with Schmoes & Movie Talk is all the changes it went through. Collider took Movie Talk and ran it to the ground and then they had Collider Live which was doing fantastic. Then out of nowhere the owner decided to sack everyone and do.. whatever he’s doing now with Collider. Then Harloff had to start his own Live show. And that was exciting and great. But then it moved to its own channel, and then to Twitch. With how KZfaq is glitchy with notifications and such, it’s hard to keep the fan base engaged and in the know if their shows keep morphing into different iterations every year

Yeah it’s definitely not the same anymore, I appreciate you checking my video.

They showed too much

Thats weird because their reviews is what made them

@@JayVaters Ok so small update, If you sub to Kris's patreon, youu have access to the entire archive. Tempted just to watch old reviews

Kristian seems to have abandoned the og schmoes know fanbase from when they were at toadhop studios

Cuz I'm Jeremy AND IM NOT FUCKIN AROUND

I hope so as well

He has major depression issues

@@casey-capri2914 how do you know? has he said anything about that ?

@@richardNbacchus yeah has he?

@@richardNbacchus Yeah I think he did a video on it a while back.

Lol

Exactly

@Jay Vaters I’ve been following you on Instagram and I’ve been trying to ask if you could follow me back on Instagram?

@@kennyhankins8850 sorry I haven’t been on Instagram in a bit

That’s ok

Well put

Well clearly you have not been watching The Big Thing

@@TheKristianHarloff I enjoy the stuff you put on your channel Kristian

It is shame

@@JayVaters I know Jay. I know.

It’s all movie trivia now on schmoes channel which is kinda disappointing

@@JayVaters not true they have there own channel for there other SEN shows now

Right? Jeremy Jhans is really the only one from that era I still watch. He still has integrity, and slams shitty entertainment for being shit. He's also up front in saying that all the things he says are just his opinion, and you're free to disagree with him. He was smart for staying solo. I never really liked Campea. He just seems like a crap person and attacks anyone who thinks differently than him. He actually replied to a comment I left on an old AMC Movie Talk episode mocking me and attacking me for my take on why Joaquin Phoenix didn't take the role of Dr. Strange when his name was in the rumor mill. I didn't care for 90% of the newer faces they brought on, either. Over time, I just stopped caring.

Big KZfaqrs don't review obscure bad movies anymore. Even small KZfaqrs like you don't review bad movies anymore.

It forced me to donate to Eric Carter's Patreon.

I try to review bad movies when I can, but yeah I agree Chris Stuckman's best reviews were his hilariacity reviews

Chris just made a video saying that he's not going to grade movies anymore and Only talk about movies that he likes now which will get pretty boring.

@@BishopWalters12 That's also because he's tired of reviewing films. He's about to direct one.

He is a stand-up comedian and wants to focus on that. A lot of the schmoes had connections to stand-up comedy

Same

So true

I agree

Totally get it

Exact same tbh. Only so many times you can hear someone say "no one cares anymore" before stopping watching.

Thank you for your comment... I immediately went to comments so I don't waste my time. I will move on.

Yeah the Schmoes aren’t the same anymore and the Schmoedown is just dull now

@@JayVaters I used to watch every match on the Schmoedown but during the pandemic fell off from watching. The digital matches take away from the overall feel. Maybe that will change with everything opening back up.

I agree with nearly every point you made. Harloff is good at reviewing movies but is terrible at running a business. He banned me at collider because I disagreed with him over the last Jedi (when he was saying it was good). So that pretty much ended my ability to interact with the chat and the shows so I found other communities where I have been welcomed and made moderator on channels with hundreds of thousands of members. But I do still remember those early fun days of The schmoe down before the shady pyramid scheme guy from collider got involved and Kristian decided to start making business decisions apparently randomly. As usual, something good ruined by inept management.

Thanks for watching

Exactly

Hell yeah

I might