The Falling Birthrate Is Destroying America

The Falling Birthrate Is Destroying America | Catherine Pakaluk

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10 ай бұрын

In this episode:
- Catherine Pakaluk joins the podcast to discuss her forthcoming book, Hannah’s Children, about women having large families amongst a culture of childlessness
- the limits of economic and family policy in reversing the falling birthrates, and what really drives our demographic decline
- Marlo and Catherine talk about the various joys and challenges that come with motherhood, both of one child and of many children
Texts Mentioned:
Hannah’s Children: The Stories of Women Quietly Defying the Birth Dearth by Catherine Pakaluk
The Birth Dearth by Ben Wattenberg
“Jordan Peterson Interviews Presidential Candidate Vivek Ramaswamy”
Coming Apart by Charles Murray
Get Married by Brad Wilcox
The Two Parent Privilege by Melissa Kearney
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@afrikurl 9 ай бұрын

I’m still listening but I’m part of the demographic of college educated women that have decided to either have one or none. Most of the women who I know who are choosing not to have children or multiple children have said 1) children are expensive. Childcare costs thousands per kid per month plus their regular expenses. 2) most women are expected to work in the home and outside of the home and be the primary caregiver for the children and the responsibilities of home. Not having children is opting out of extra, unpaid, unrecognized work. 3) a lot of women don’t have support. We don’t have a community or family to help us take care of the children. Most jobs require that women return to work after 2 months. And lastly, a lot of women are child free but not by choice. They are unpartnered. They want kids but don’t have anyone to have kids with.

@bridgetgress 6 ай бұрын

I think there are responses to each of these incentives. I'm also college-educated, but I have 2 kids already and I plan to have more God willing. I'm 29 and my kids are 22 months and 2 months. 1) Children are expensive--but not as expensive as people think. Similar to weddings--you don't need to spend $30,000 on a wedding, but people think it's necessary. A wedding doesn't have to cost anything at all, or you can keep your expenses minimal. Same goes for kids--you may have to make sacrifices, but there are many ways to make it more affordable. The problem is that in that case your priority must be "what must I do to budget this" rather than "can I afford kids and also have the lifestyle I desire." As for childcare--I wouldn't suggest anyone have kids that isn't willing to do at least most of the childcare yourself. Why would you give the most important part of parenthood away to someone who is likely paid minimum wage? 2)Each individual woman has the ability to choose how and when they work. I have 2 kids, I work part-time, and my husband works and is in grad school. We make a lot of sacrifices. I don't see the work I do in the home as unrecognized or unimportant. It may be invisible to most people, but that doesn't make it unimportant. Being paid isn't always what makes work worthwhile. 3) I also don't have a whole lot of support. We also don't have any family living nearby. But we as individuals are at least partially responsible for creating our own community, I think primarily through friendships and church. 4) Unpartnered women are unfortunately another topic. I think there are varied causes for this, but one of the main causes is the idea of needing to find our "soulmate."

@tyler0506 2 ай бұрын

I see this all day long w my girl friends

@StaringCompetition 4 ай бұрын

Gotta love it; the reason we’re selfish and not having enough kids is, checks notes, that we didn’t grow up around enough babies. Yeah, totally not circular at all 😂

@coppercoloredlibra 7 ай бұрын

Most people came from a large family but each gent has less and less kids. I think people now are barely making it with the cost of living and don’t want the responsibility of kids. Women also know everything falls onto them alone at the end of the day and we saw our grandmother have all those baby’s and didn’t want that. Also only rich people can afford 5 kids daycare alone cost $1800 a child most can’t afford that.

@AyakoTachi 4 ай бұрын

I wish I could've managed student loan payoff, housing payment, realistic transportation option, food and basics for 8+ people when I was young and then started career/work later. This is a luxury we couldn't really even fathom.

@StaringCompetition 4 ай бұрын

My aunt was very religious catholic and had 5 kid, she worked sometimes but was stay at home too a lot of the time. The problem is all her kids are successful and none has more than 2 kids. The “super matriarch” does not engender the same in her kids. Probably the opposite in many cases. That’s what you need to overcome.

@skylinefever 4 ай бұрын

The atheism subreddit is full of people who hated their hardcore religious parents ways and did the exact opposite.

@StaringCompetition 4 ай бұрын

@@skylinefever no, all my cousins love their Mamma but she didn’t raise them especially religious it was more a personal belief system

@henrytep8884 10 ай бұрын

The dude on the right just looks dumbfounded the whole time and it’s hilarious

@StaringCompetition 4 ай бұрын

“Caregiving is a skill” just not one people should be gainfully paid for

@StaringCompetition 4 ай бұрын

Next study; what attributes/characteristics of the moms who have large families contribute to their kids also having large families. I just don’t see this.

@shahankhan7685 2 ай бұрын

The only way to improve brith rate is have a verry good wealth redistribution system.

@Eric-ej3oy 14 күн бұрын

Not all will agree to this idea.

@zebrafinch12 9 ай бұрын

There are people who shouldnt be parents.

@skylinefever 7 ай бұрын

Indeed. However, many "Go have a bunch of kids" crowds assume everyone will have the "I never wanted kids till I had one" story. Nevermind the masses of dudes who go buy a pack of smokes and don't return.

@garybarr1045 2 ай бұрын

I suggest about 90% of people should not be parents.

@Shikuesi 2 ай бұрын

@@garybarr1045 Be careful what you wish for... at present rates it might come true

@herbayum76 Ай бұрын

@@garybarr1045your observation could become reality around 2100..haha

@tyler0506 2 ай бұрын

That dude just chillin listening to this whole talk

@drewj3329 9 ай бұрын

Why listen to these experts who are the reason all our problems exist.

@MrHjacky 4 ай бұрын

Pretty sure quite many problems are inherent to living beings regardless of these experts

@zebrafinch12 9 ай бұрын

Um ..what about parents who abandon their families...or divorce...or single parents?

@hvac_tech3 9 ай бұрын

Being birn into a large family does not mean the children will also have big familes themselves.

@marla79 9 ай бұрын

Yep anecdotally my mom was the oldest of 10 and only had 3

@nothereyetlost 7 ай бұрын

@@mmecharlotte we had 10 brothers and sisters. All of them have 2. I have zero.

@josephmaag667 2 ай бұрын

Large family needs to be a thing of the past do to all the automation that has replaced humans in the workforce jobs that once did is done by robots now,plus they say more jobs are going to be done robots now.we just don't need that many people now

@StaringCompetition 4 ай бұрын

@19:56 she says basically no country can afford to actually pay for children to be raised 😅

@zebrafinch12 9 ай бұрын

Parentification is also not goid

@theukeconomist6518 10 ай бұрын

For their ideal husband I would imagine many women in their 20s would say he needs to be earning 6 or 7 figures? This means only 1% of men are attractive enough to have babies with, hence women delaying family planning in hopes they'll meet said man.

@roberte.6892 9 ай бұрын

as a guy tho, here in the U.S., you need at least six figures to support a family, and if that fam consists of two kids, you better be earning a fair deal over that threshold.

@julianskinner3697 6 ай бұрын

Many men are also kind of bitchy u don't blame women for preferring their single lives.

@garybarr1045 2 ай бұрын

Money won't buy a sustainable environment. Depopulation will. End of story.

@KeithAllen-ti4iy 2 ай бұрын

@@roberte.6892 idk I feel like 89500 a year with a stay at home wife allows you to have as many kids as you want. Look at our tax structure.

@KeithAllen-ti4iy 2 ай бұрын

@@roberte.6892in arizonia you also get 7200 a year to home school or send to private. Reality is woman today in America by and large don’t deserve a 6 figure man… supporting a family with four kids one one income off about 140k isn’t hard just have to have your priorities in line.

@hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 2 ай бұрын

WE TOLD WOMAN WORK MORE IMPORTANT THAN REPRODUCTION

@callicordova4066 Ай бұрын

Nope, women got smart and realized that they need to put themselves first before having children.

@lilyann168 9 ай бұрын

Children should be children, not mini parents.

@mariorosas7779 6 ай бұрын

Completely missed the point

@bullyarena3923 6 ай бұрын

..when she knows more than she speaks..why?

@lesterpotter2184 8 ай бұрын

I fail to understand how birthrate can be a problem in the west. There are many people in Africa and the Middle East who would love the opportunities that migration to the West would give them

@blafonovision4342 7 ай бұрын

Migration is a form of invasion. Nobody wants to be invaded.

@blafonovision4342 5 ай бұрын

They should be building up their own countries.

@MrHjacky 4 ай бұрын

Greed, individualism. Nothing is ever enough for I, me, mine

@tyler0506 2 ай бұрын

Destroy, you mean shrink

@WarrenHolly 9 ай бұрын

I have 7 kids 2 in college and my girl/wife is pregnant 🎉🤓🎊🧚🍼🚀🎠💒😝🌋🍹🛸💃🏽🕺🏾

@evilds3261 9 ай бұрын

A kid costs approximately $1 million to raise without going into debt or becoming impoverished. Do you have $7 million in your bank account or tied in investments to subsidize your parenting or are you relying on social security, government stimulus, or credit card debt?

@antinatalistwitch111 7 ай бұрын

Plantation buck, your master would be so proud!

@nothereyetlost 7 ай бұрын

ALL your kids will have 2 or 1 or none

@bridgetgress 6 ай бұрын

@@evilds3261That's total nonsense lol. Kids do not cost nearly that much, and each subsequent child costs less because you already own the things you need. Even if you include college they don't cost a million a piece though, and you don't owe your kids a college education!

@evilds3261 6 ай бұрын

@@bridgetgressI'm just saying it costs that much if you want to provide them with an ideal life. Also, you could be losing out on making that amount of money due to all the costs associated with children - such as how much effort parenting is and how that can ensure that you are too busy raising kids to be making more money at another job or having a side gig or something. But yeah, no, you have a point... kids are more like $300,000 to $500,000 to raise to age 18... and that's if they can even move out of the house by that age. But if you add that up to 7, then you go into the millions.

@drewj3329 8 ай бұрын

I...me can't afford me , my how can I . Not much we , our or he. Truth hurts and it will get worse. Sin has a price and the hate , jealousy from Feminism has fruited.