Women cannot identify with a young lady who isn't immediately her highest self. It triggers biological fears that the woman is a failure as in nature a woman only deteriorates. Thus if Rey isn't ultra super superior from the get go, she ain't ever gonna be any better. That biological clock is ticking. Women preview this subconsciously. Men really identify with the heros journey. We all have to travel in the footsteps of the hero. While, In reality, women just head to the finish line waiting for the victors to cross. Women have no biological need to go on a hero's journey.

Great comment!

This comment is very insightful! Like seriously, you've explained both perspectives very well!

@@robertgross9580 Back in school, I would have thought what you wrote was sexist, but reality has a way of disproving hogwash.

Statement is facts

I agree. More lazy writing.

Since when were bloodlines even a thing in Star Wars other than the Skywalkers. Even that wasn't really a thing until Kylo.

She refused to be a Palpatine, it was not the blood that defined who she was but her choices, that’s why she became a Skywalker.

Honestly it would have all been worth if right at the end she smiled and did Palpatine's laugh, confirming that he had in fact possessed her and fooled everyone. Would have been a totally Palpatine thing to do as well.

@@boianko I wish, this would be something unexpected. Kind of like when Kylo offered her his hand in the throne room. I think I am most disappointed that the big risks in the plot were never taken.

I genuinely felt like this with The Last Jedi. It had a very weird effect.

@@DVSPress I saw TLJ as a jumbled mess of ideas with no solid direction. A lot of "Let do this, no wait let's do this instead! "NO WAIT! Let's do this instead." It felt indecisive on what it wanted to do. Also you're the first Star Wars fan who seems to have a grasp on what a Mary-Sue is, yet despite this, I disagreed with your assessment. I didn't get the impression that Han, Chewbacca, or Poe liked Rey, and Mary-sues are liked by everyone they meet. Another aspect is that Mary-Sues are one-dimensional and Rey has no dimensions, and Mary-Sues have agency that drives them to action in a plot, which she also lacks. Rey at best to me is an afterthought, inserted at Kennedy's request and not developed any further because "Hey it's Star Wars, the fans won't care." It's irritating, because it shows that Abrams and Johnson either can't or don't care to create something from nothing...

Those are the best dreams, Twi'lek pussy everywhere.

TROS is especially "dreamlike" Crazy stuff just happens for no reason, it's like in a dream where whatever happen next is just something vaguely related to whatever was happening before

Yeees, like who really cares about these characters and stories? Certainly not today's children or die-hard fans. Even the average moviegoers that defend them or claim that "their not that bad" will completely forget them in a few years.

"Fanfiction is unlike Disney's Star Wars media in the fact that there is actually some well written and enjoyable fanfiction out there" drops mic 😎

I don't see why they couldn't. They already did that with the EU. Just say that those are the legends versions.

@@DVSPress The main problem with this (but not the only) is that Carrie Fisher is dead

"You're all *stoopid* action figures"

@@1COMODIN9 "...and only stoopid people like you."

@@obscur_artiste WTF? now the internetz insults people for latching onto their jokes? For Yoda's sake...

@@hanniffydinn6019 Disney's Star Wars is a bad trip tho...

Well said, I hope David watches The Expanse someday. The books and show deserve the praise they get.

She looks like a young girl having a fantasy in her bedroom after watching the original trilogy.

Women are the best they ever will be at about 23. After that, the clock starts ticking and they become less valuable every year there after. This leaves no room for a hero's journey in female fantasy. For if a young woman is not supremely awesome, she never will be. The only direction for an attractive young lady is down in the subconscious of women. "The tock tick of the clock is painful." Silly girls, the heros journey is for boys.

@@robertgross9580 A female's peak is closer to 16. Hero's Journeys are basically coming of age stories, so those stories are for both males and females

@@adog4661 the fact is biologically females become worth less and less after a very young age. 16 sounds fine as a fertile peak. Men are made. A lone male wolf will earn his way into a pack, be killed by a pack or starve. Female wolves are accepted for their egg scarcity. The journey is that of the male. Women can make believe being on the journey but it's only a fantacy

@@robertgross9580 whatever helps you sleep at night pal

Two differences, TLJ deliberately insulted fans at every turn, and made every storyline into nothing, going nowhere.

Let's face it. There are only so many story lines that you can play in the second act. The Force Awakens was a slavish homage that only fan bois would appreciate. (George Lucas hated it. Oh noes, the god creator hated Abram's reboot because it was absolutely unoriginal.) While I enjoyed the characters in this movie.. it's a lot of cheesy liners and it's very inconsistent for these characters. It has no general themes or ideas. It's boring. It's basically a cheap trick that caters to nostalgia. (The boys freaked out because a girl is waving a dick. Come on.. That light saber is a proxy for dicks. That's why guys babble about the size of their ... light saber. Give me a blaster any day of the week. I'd love a machine gun blaster.) But in The Last Jedi, we get something that changes a bit. Remember, we are supposed to love Skywalker. But whose sitting on that throne by the end? Finally, a Skywalker who grabs for power and gets it rather than being a servant of the Emperor. Our heroine isn't somebody who came from a special family. another change and I welcomed it. Sure, there were failures in the Last Jedi. But it wasn't pandering to me. It was far braver and more interesting than the re-hashed crap that even the extended universe non-canon (yes, even George Lucas didn't think it was canon. Look it up buttercup.) . Look, at the end of the day, it's a simple story. It's about a good side and a bad side. The bad side has a lot of resources and is the "evil empire", the faceless man at the top. The good side is the underdog who just has that gumption. Slap on a bit of magic with this force nonsense and ... you got the American Revolution, magic style. (I mean, all the Empire dudes spoke in Brit accents and all the heroes spoke in American accents. Come on man. And of course, we had that whole 70's vibe with the rage against the man. We saw it in the faceless masks of the storm troopers who were "agents of the system".) There are only so many ways that story can unravel. The entire idea of this trilogy was stupid. (Seriously.. think of it from a time perspective. Death Star explodes at the Battle of Endor roughly 20-30 years before. New Republic starts being formed and I guess a lot of people are happy going by the fireworks scenes that Lucas edited in. So how the hell did the New Order get the presence it did that it had effectively re-subdued the entire universe and had the good guys on the run ... again? Jesus fucking h. christ on a stick.. that's bad. They should have played a spin off of the break up of Alexander the Great's empire after his death. That might have been a better play with the generals in the various regions consolidating power as war lords, the republic bickering and trying to create some consensus.) For all the flaws of Last Jedi, it was better story telling. I understood the characters. They weren't these weird props that Abrams likes to turn his actors into. (and Johnson should have spent more time fixing on the bs mess about Luke missing that Abrams gave him and giving a more consistent character than the one we got. There are flaws with Luke. Deep character flaws that could easily have been used. The easiest one is that Luke is a loser. Sorry fans. He's a loser. When the going gets tough, Luke gives up. All we needed was a back story where some of Luke's students went dark and Luke was horrified and ... gave up. We could have even had a scene where Yoda said "Do. Or do not. There is no try". And then, cackling as he burns the damn tree down because Yoda lost his fight because.. .Yoda was a failure too. That's why Yoda ran away and didn't do anything but hide from the guy that kicked his ass. Yoda didn't get up after that beating while millions of people suffered. Anybody who fan worships Yoda needs to really think about exactly what Yoda was doing besides hiding and nursing his wounds and waiting to manipulate a naive farm boy.)

@@jenniferhunter4074 Interesting observations. I would just like to know, how you come to the conclusion that Luke is a looser? Is it based on his actions in the original trilogy or that he went missing in the sequels?

@@CaptCondor It's because we made him a legend. But look at ESB. What does Yoda tell him? Why does Luke give up so easily? His sister is tortured and she still has a witty retort. She's enslaved and she bides her time to kill Jabba. She's under attack and going to be captured (in the beginning of ANH) and she has the coolness of mind to send the droids out. What would Luke have done if he had to experience any of that? Go "It's too difficult"? Let's be honest, the Luke we are introduced to is a naive weak, easily malleable farm boy. That's probably why Yoda and Obi targeted him rather than Leia to attack Vader. Leia would have been used to people trying to use her. Luke.. sweet country naive farmboy luke.. he's a patsy. The great thing is that he grows up, rejects what he's told to do, and still wins. He doesn't use violence to win. He appeals to the humanity in his father and frees his father from Palpatine's control by willing to suffer and die. I like the Luke in ROTJ. I also like him in ANH and ESB and I even like cranky Luke who finally stops running. Yeah.. Rian Johnson didn't understand how he could make a cranky loser Luke without retconning Luke "ROTJ". But when he joins the force at Last Jedi.. I thought it was effing glorious because he finally realized himself. He wasn't afraid anymore and he just was Luke being badass without having to follow the rules of Sith or Jedi. He was the Luke I remember at the end of ROTJ. And fans have to understand.. the legend of the good jedi was a lie. George pretty much showed us that they were just a nice evil in the prequels. He took our illusion of good guys/bad guys, good cops/bad robbers and flipped it.

@@jenniferhunter4074 Good points. You could argue that the Luke of Episdoe 4 would have reacted that way to being enslaved by Jabba, I wouldn't be too sure tho about the one he has become by Episode 6. It also was partially or entirely (that's never made clear) his plan to have them all face Jabba together. Which would mean, that Leia was set up for that spot because of the resolve she had shown throughout the original trilogy. To be fair tho, the Jedi were in the originals just something of legend. The way they get portrayed in the prequels is just like the prequels themselves trying to hard to make an idea sensible, that was pretty weird and to begin with. The reason the originals succeded were all else failed was because they only used the background to advance the characters plots.

Interesting. Almost as if it should be considered a set of... LEGENDS

Basically that was true of many characters including his foil the under utilized phasma.

The dog in Little House on the Prairie had more of a character arc.

They drop that in 20 minutes

@Star Trek Theory hux was a discount tarkin.

Let's just agree to agree then, shall we?

WT Keeton I hate it when mom and dad argue

or lack thereof

On the Blu ray, Rian says it didn't make sense to him that Luke would go off in the first place, so the only thing he could imagine is that Luke did it because he thought it was the moral thing to do.

Alexánder Márquez yep the force awakens is the foundation

IndyDefense This is simply lazy and probably disingenuous on Rian’s part, not that I’m defending JJ. The solution is obvious - even as a Jedi Master, Luke understood he didn’t have enough power to face “X”, so he went off in search of knowledge - the first Jedi temple and texts. Snoke could have easily beeen Darth Plagueis, and there is even an unconfirmed leak that Snoke was supposed to be Son of Mortis. No, Rian wanted to deconstruct everything beloved about Star Wars and that was just his excuse. How he was hired and allowed to do that with the franchise is a very interesting question.

@Star Trek Theory your name tells me you're biased against Star Wars 😏 but you're right. Lucas himself admitted that the ewoks were based on, wait for it: _the viet cong_ so, guess which was the "evil empire" they were fighting? 🤨

@Star Trek Theory not that I mind it prequels were essentially filled with Republic propaganda (TCW's radio broadcasts with yularen prove this).

@Star Trek Theory if you call the -berg or -stein crowd "teutonic", then yeah...

Holy shit I would love this, and 1000 years later Rey is still alive and young looking due to her dark side tricks

Also, this is why DC EU doesn't work, you have zack snyder with his gritty style. Then you got whatever rainbow lollipop suici squad was, wonder woman was fine, action james wan in aquaman, then we got whedon funny haha dry humour in the justice league. It's all a bunch of incoherent mess that doesn't have a single voice.

Most importantly, Rian didn't write the BB episode. He only directed. If someone else had written ep 8, it might've been okay.

@@memel0rdxxx696 It would have worked if they kept the gritty style of Snyder. But pandering to marveltards ruined everything. Hence, the best approach for DC now is standalone movies like Joker and Shazam.

The Less Jedi was a dumpster fire, but props to Ruin Johnson for finally getting Piper Perabo to show the goodies in Looper 😏

Also don't hand in your first draft of a script

Thank you for joining me so far!

Also I think wealth on knowledge in term of writing leads to deeper critiques then other channels who though extensive often lack perspective.

it's a dream in the sense that it is a fan inserting herself into a poorly told story that portrays her as a flawless hero, but again she's not a good storyteller, her only goal is to live out a fantasy and everything in the story exists to accomplish that

Yes. How many bond movies have they made despite a large number of them being mediocre to bad?

It's the Wednesday Addams brainwashed-smile from Addams Family Values.

She's really ugly.

@@liberteus She is a "mouse girl", and thats by design as part of the Mary Sue fantasy.

@@alexgame3357 What's a "mouse girl"?

Disney is pushing an agenda and in order for it to be pushed through they HAD to do what they did to Luke Skywalker. It was intentional, none of this travesty is by mistake. They tanked Star Wars on purpose.

@@porkflaps4717 I wonder will they attempt this on vader eventually?

Lit Devil puts it in this way. It's not being super powerful and ultra righteous that makes you a Mary Sue. Otherwise in most mediums Superman would be a Stu. No its a continuous series of events where despite all logic the universe bends to the will of the insert character

@@Monty2289 And even then, Superman has two weak points: kriptonite and magic.

So she’s a parasite.

@@Monty2289 Superman is different. Only if you have seen him on the justice league where other characters wisdom, power and value is acknowledged by superman. Superman if well written is self aware of his status as more powerful and then others.

@@kevintanza6968 Superman greatest weakness also his love of humanity, his desire to do good, and particularly Louis Lane. It why he is so crippled when facing Batman's villains and lunatic like the Joker. EDIT: superman has second weakness which his cryptonian side and affections.

John Smith that’s what I thought “this sounds like a theme park ride plot”

It also feels alien like it's not SW.

Dan Smitham no porn is fantasy, a sexual one, and especially over the top. These films, crazy as they are, are not over the top enough to be porn level of fantasy

@@1who4me they're obviously on different levels, but both involve the individual placing himself within the scene rather than simply imagining a new story in that universe.

This deserves more than a short comment response, but there is a belief pattern I have noticed growing over the last 20 years or so. That is the belief that you are automatically good or bad at things. When a young person encounters something that they are not good at (which, let's be honest, it's almost everything), they give up and think that that thing is not what they're supposed to be doing. I've seen kids cry when they die to the first goomba in super Mario Brothers. They cannot fathom having to improve themselves to have success at something. People blame the self-esteem trap, but I can't help but feel that there is some deeper malaise there. The inverse is also true. If a kid finds what they perceive to be immediate success it's something, they start to think it's some destiny - some part of their identity. Then their ego crumbles when they inevitably come up against a real challenge or they have their talent put into real perspective.

Coming in episode 10: Force Mechs

No Rey keeps it

@@planetxaudio1699 lol what happens to lando at the end?

Why *does* Chewie passively do whatever Rey tells him to after Han dies? He's basically her chauffeur. It's completely out of character and makes no sense.

@@raam726 nothing really. He's just there celebrating

​@@zeronightex yeah chewie isnt even a character anymore. he shouldve died with han. lando shouldve taken back the falcon and dropped chewie on kashyyk. theres nothinh else left for him. luke and leia are dead too. what r2 and c3po? chewie doesnt belong with them.

Thank you!

Yeah I went from reporting spoilers for TFA to wanting to read them to reenforce my shitty opinion of ROS without even watching it.

@@509Gman I just don't care about it anymore but everyone on youtube is talking about it, hard to avoid..

@@benpearson49 his "ego" does have a point when it comes to sabotageabrahams work though, that guy was a praised hack by the dumb masses before TLJ but after that movie many started realizing TFA wasnt all it wad cracked up to be.

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