You’re aren’t crazy idk what’s going on with the audio either 😭😭😭 I’m sorry! I don’t think it’s as obvious if you don’t use headphones

Name a more iconic duo than demonizing mental illness and horror films ✨😌✨

As an autistic person I’m pretty sure most of us would rather be obsessed with animals or imaginary people (characters) and concepts, not actual people, especially considering how terribly we are treated and represented by neurotypical people.

Stalker movies using actual mental illnesses, that don’t always correlate with stalking, as an explanation for said stalking is so extremely uncomfortable. Stop it, please and thank you

the infantalization of people with autism is gross and abelist and this movie plays right into that

I don't know why stalker movies need to resort to mental illness or in this case, neurodivergence as a plot device, when it real life the reason it happens, is because the stalker has some power over the victim, and that we also live in a very shitty society that doesn't really help victims.

The weirdest thing is that John's Travolta's son who passed away as a teenager was autistic so this is strange. He himself should know how this movie is just a terrible idea

sometimes it's scary to be autistic. we're either represented as superhuman geniuses, as childish and infantilized, as brutal aggressors or as the butt of a joke that doesn't seem to end. it's honestly so disheartening

As a certified Autism™ I can confirm my favorite passtime is going extremely out of my way to have a social interaction with a neurotypical stranger I admire who is likely to reject me. I especially like doing this when they clearly do not want to talk to me and don't like me and very explicitly threatened to punch me in the face. Famously, autistic people love this.

Honestly… My stalker and my friends’ stalkers were perfectly sane. No mental disorder or illness. No neurotype. Nothing. Just a bunch of assholes with no respect for other people’s boundaries. I’m tired of TV and movies using a mental diagnosis as a way to give a character motive. Like, if you lack the ability to write a well thought out story, just stop. Please.

Admittedly I had a stalker in high school who was on the spectrum, but it was nothing like this, and his stalking wasn’t to do with his autism, but rather the fact that he was seemingly never told the word no in his entire life so he did not understand (or didn’t want to) someone not wanting him to follow them around all the time, or go through their backpack, or find their home address, just to name some of the highlights of his actions towards me.

Oh one more thing re: the names, you’re absolutely right about this film trying to gaslight you about who is the “good or bad” one. Moose-big, dumb, lumbering animal? Hunter-clever man with sharp sight and deadly aim? Gross.

as an autistic person, I gotta say I'm so exhausted by how the majority of media about us is so goddamn infantilizing.

Also! Kennie, Moose is indeed supposed to be portrayed as someone with Autism, and the Dead Meat Podcast's Chelsea made kind of an analysis on how many levels of offensive bs The Fanatic truly was to people in the spectrum, because her sister is a psychologist that specializes in the area :)

I'm autistic and this movie is ridiculously offensive. Usually, our community is all about #NothingAboutUsWithoutUs (looking at your Sia) but I am glad this movie didn't hire an autistic actor to humiliate themself with this trash portrayal. I am obsessive about things for sure, that's common with special interests common with autism. I still respect people's boundaries and definitely would never break into anyone's home, as would the vast majority of autistic people. Of course there are bad people that are autistic (Elon Musk doesn't even have the decency to use the current term Autism Spectrum Disorder instead of the name of a Nazi that had children gassed for being autistic). Bad people exist in every demographic. Most autistic people are good people that just happen to have brains that work differently.

Things Hunter will do: Keep a shotgun near his bed Shoot someone’s hand off Gouge someone’s eye out Things Hunter won’t do: Buy a camera Call the police Listen to women

when doctors said that autistic people sometimes have trouble with boundaries, i dont think that this is what they meant

I cannot get over the fact that this movie is about a stan (stalker fan) and the guy playing Hunter Dunbar (Devon Sawa) is the SAME GUY who plays Stan in the Eminem music video.

Thank you for reviewing this movie! As someone who’s on the Autism Spectrum, it’s so important to call out poor representation in media like this

As an autistic woman with two autistic teens, I have a lot of big feelings about this one. First and foremost, thank you @kenniejd for putting out there how fucked up it is to use autism as a plot device, and how poor the representation has been for us in media. I think a this film fell somewhere between an anxious fever dream of all my worries about what could happen when my 6’2 son gets pulled over by police and his sense of logic or panic take over-and Hollywood trying to have a good ole time with “us vs them” pot-stirring fun. I don’t want to get into everywhere I agree or disagree with you, but I just really want to thank you for recognizing and pointing out a lot of the ableist bullshit. 💖

"Magical knee grow" is a figment of Moose's imagination. He never actually existed. 😂 This is terrifying thinking about celebrities this actually happens to. Yikes. Being famous must be a nightmare.

characters like this always give off the vibe that the writer googled a list of symptoms and talked to approximately zero autistic people before deciding they had enough information to carry a whole movie. im so tired of hollywood interpreting "has a hard time with social cues and/or communication" as "basically a ten year old."

Kennie making us get gaslit right alongside her w this topsy turvy ass movie 💀

On the topic of naming someone Moose, my friend has dated multiple guys with animal animals (Moose, Bear, Tiger, Mouse, just to name a few) so yes, Moose is a real name

Hey Kennie! Found a movie to add to your list: "Never Too Young to Die" (1986) is an action-adventure comedy starring John Stamos, Vanity and Gene Simmons. "A top secret agent is murdered, so his estranged son, a high school gymnast, teams up with his dad's attractive female partner to stop the psychopathic hermaphroditic gang leader who killed him." Edit: I don't have a Twitter account but if you do feel free to tweet Kennie!

ngl it's kinda weird because they could have made a conversational piece about when fans or a fan crosses the line or when reality/fantasy is blurred but instead they made whatever...this is.

Seems to me if you're part of a religion who doesn't believe a disorder exists, you shouldn't be allowed to portray someone with that disorder.

Oh lordie when I saw the community post I was excited to see you drag this movie. Also it’s kinda ironic that Devin Sawa is playing a celebrity being stalked when he himself played Stan in Eminem’s iconic music video Stan where we got the slang term stan from. Even more funny that the movie is directed by Fred Durst who had beef with Eminem back in the early 2000s. If you wanna watch a good stalker movie that isn’t horror but it’s still entertaining I would recommend Ingrid goes west which has Aubrey Plaza and Elizabeth Olsen. Edit: also the fact that Fred Durst wrote and directed this movie just makes me cringe and sigh even more because he is the worst so it makes sense that his movie would be the worst (but that first limp bizket album was still a banger)

its really sad and frustrating to watch lazy horror screenwriters go from mental condition to mental condition because the scariest thing they can imagine is "what if my fear and disgust of neurodivergent people was justified" (or in a broader way sometimes just "what if i were disabled :o ")

Makin autistic ppl (or anybody with a mental illness) the villains in horror/thriller films is disgusting, they wanna be treated as human beings like everyone else but instead they get portrayed as psychos in these types of movies, which does a huge disservice to those types of ppl IRL. Moose is a funny name tho lmaooo 😅

i'm neurodivergent & recently saw my fav band live - spoiler alert i did not feel the need to stalk them whAt a SurpRise :)

Notification squad goooooooo

I was NOT expecting that maid twist, because I was really wondering where she went and how no one called the police.

Fuck this whole premise!! I had a stalker and I am still traumatized from it. The cops don’t do anything. When you call a stalker a stalker in my experience they DO get upset like this. And to let the victim go to prison with the stalker free was a sick and horrible ending 🤬 But I love your videos LOL

As an autistic person I just cannot imagine being so bold in the ways that moose is. Being obessive? absolutely. But taking initiative to track a guy down and sneak into places I'm not supposed to be? I would be so anxious about being caught or about the person I was obsessed with not liking me. If I got snubbed in the signing line like Moose was, I might cry or ask an employee if he was coming back but I wouldn't follow him. Us autistics are anxious creatures especially in novel social situations so his actions absolutely baffle me. But then he's NOT bold in the ways I would be, like with Todd bullying him. Autistic people tend to have a strong sense of justice and can't stand being wronged or treated unfairly (or watching other people being wronged or treated unfairly) so again it baffles me that he doesnt do anything much earlier. Like todd is doing illegal stuff he could literally call the cops on him. Instead he just complains behind his back which is more of an allistic thing to do. Basically he's confrontational in all the wrong ways which makes it clear to me that no autistic person was consulted here, although I think that was already apparent. I also hate the fact that he does not care about the woman he accidentally killed. It's a common and harmful myth that autistic people don't have any empathy but in my experience its the exact opposite. I cry about accidentally killing bugs you would not catch me leaving a woman to die when I could do something to help (like idk calling 911???).

The audio is lowkey coming out louder on my left earbud and it's annoying af but bad movies and a beat is worth it

As an Autistic person I can say, I've never broken into someones house nor do I have any desire to.

I can't believe Devon Sawa is in a movie about a stalker fan. Cause he played Stan in the Eminem video where the term "stan" comes from. So Stan has a stan now. Stanception.

Honestly as someone who has autism and also works with patients that have autism. I don't think we'll ever get a movie that doesn't use it as just a plot device. (Unless it's made by those in the community.) People don't wNt to deal with us since we make them uncomfortable. Even in my unit certain staff don't want to work with the neurodivergent people due to this. It's beyond aggrevating.

“Keep rollin, rollin, rollin, rollin” was probably Fred Durst’s mantra during the film’s production. He didn’t care about the film being good or not, he just did it for the nookie. As a result, this is one of the worst films of my generation.

Oooooh the ableism nooo 😳😳 now I’m autistic and even hearing about this movie made me mad! Like you said there’s not lots of good autistic representation and then you have this which demonise autistics people, which can be not only a little triggering but also leads to people thinking autistic people are bad and forces even more sterotypes which is literally a constant battle that autistic people face, like again you said it was used sympathy which is UGHHH 🤦🏻‍♂️ I don’t know this makes sense but thank you for talking about the ableism in this movie, it’s just annoying to face this constantly

I'm gonna be honest I have no idea where the stereotype of people on the spectrum being "dangerous" even comes from. Every autistic person I've ever met is just... normal. Just normal and nice and probably so good at masking you can barely tell. As someone (most likely) on the spectrum myself, the most I'd do to you is try to talk to you about my favorite dragon quest sequel.

The fact that some man can be in my house under my kids bed stealing toys 🧍🏾‍♀️ I hate that 🧌

Honestly the whole maid subplot was extremely uncomfortably reminiscent of 'Of Mice and Men'

As a librarian I 1000% agree with this. My coworkers and I have all had to deal with patrons borderline stalking us at work, some with some form of disability and sometimes not. For us its just as real and scary, especially when its hard to get patrons banned from a public place. We all do our best to keep each other safe, especially if we find out a patron has fixated on one specific librarian. We've also been urged to call security if we feel threatened (its happened to me twice in the last year alone). Stay safe everyone.

I was waiting for this one, imagining Kennie’s reaction to all this bullshit!

I couldn't finish this Kennie, as someone in the spectrum it triggered me. Like sure Autistic people can also be bad people, but man if neurotypicals get mostly good or neutral representations in media why can't we have that too.

Is it even a saturday without Bad Movies & a Beat? 💆🏽‍♀️💅🏽🥳

IVE PREPARED THE BEST MEAL EVER AND NOW THE NOTIFICATION OF KENDALL CAME ??? what a wonderful day

My grandma nicknamed me Moose when I was a little girl. I didn’t think it was an odd nickname until I got older, then I wondered, “Why Moose?” I was told it was because I was a particularly sturdy baby, whatever that means. That’s all I have to say about that.

"GBF! It's like Mean Girls, but gay." you mean to tell me Mean Girls ain't gay

Ngl, as someone who's Autistic themselves this kind of Media makes me super uncomfortable. It's honestly of hard to watch, even in review form, because the message feels like it's saying "look how dangerous these people can be!" . Media like this also often just feels... unintentionally cruel to these Characters. Also in how aspects of Autism that may be Neutral to Positive for the Autistic Person get connected to the terrible things they do, thus framing everything as harmful. Funnily enough the first time I saw a Movie mess it up like this was in one of those Airbud spinoff centered around his Children, in which the Puppies go to Space and encounter a Cosmonaut driven crazy by isolation. The worst part is probably the ending where they just... leave him on the space station and take the dog that was previously with him back to earth. That terrified me as a kid.

See this is what happens when you split away from Samuel Jackson and try to do your own thing.

As the mom of 4 children on the autism spectrum I can wholeheartedly say there isn’t much positive representation of people in the autism community. They’re either portrayed as savants or violent… I’ve seen several horror movies lately depicting people on the spectrum as evil and it’s extremely offensive and quite honestly the complete opposite of the majority of people on the spectrum. My children are sweet, loving, and non-violent….🤦🏾‍♀️ do better Hollywood. Side note: if I remember correctly didn’t John Travolta have an autistic son who passed away after falling off of a boat or drowning? I vaguely remember hearing something to that effect…edit: I was off about the boat, his son passed away after having a seizure and hit his head in the bathtub 😢

This movie is very scary. To think that something like this happened in real life to Rebecca Schaefer because of an obsessed guy is disheartening

Thank you so much for your defense of autistic people. There's so much bad representation of autistic people and it really sucks.

I’m begging you to review The Dirty D on Tubi. It only has 3 episodes at the moment but it is chaotic but quite interesting. This is the type of carrying on we need on this series

Choked when Kennie said "flying negro"

The funniest scene for me is when Hunter asks his son if he likes Limp Bizkit. A band his small child has probably never heard of because they haven’t been big in twenty years but you figure is probably a very important question to the WRITER/DIRECTOR OF THE FILM, a Mr. Fred Durst the frontman for, you guessed it, Limp Bizkit. Absolutely wild.

John Travolta actually had a child on the spectrum that passed away years ago. Surprising he would choose to do a role like this. Additionally, he recently lost his wife/the mother of said child :(

For context: Jett Travolta was born in 1992 to John Travolta and Kelly Preston. At a young age, he began having seizures. He was eventually diagnosed with Kawasaki’s Disease and was on the spectrum. He was the Travolta’s special needs child. In 2009, while the family was on vacation in the Bahamas, Jett had a seizure in the tub and passed away. He was 16. Later, the ambulance drivers tried to extort the Travolta family for cash claiming they were going to make up a story about the wrong doings of them. This went to court and was ruled in a mistrial. I personally cannot imagine how absolutely incredibly hard this time must have been for the family. So now, 10 years later for John Travolta to be making this film is just whiplash. Can’t wrap my head around whatever the fuck this movie is

Don’t feel bad about laughing at doodoo and boo-boo. I literally said the other day that my country gravy was thick like Rihanna so it was perfect. And there was a tiktok where a guy saw lights out on a pep boy’s sign and he laughed saying “pp boys” over and over.

I can't believe the person in charge of casting read about a timid, awkward, geeky man & thought "Y'know, John Travolta is perfect for this.". 😂😂? Him being taller and beefier than his own bully, but trying to seem scared just threw me off. It's way scarier when you hear news of a small, scrawny person killing someone larger than them or several people at once, as it shows how changed you can be when you snap.

Don't get yourself to riled up. This movie was directed by Limp Bizkit. Yes you read right. Fred Durst. I laughed all throughtout this mess.

Where's the movie where tourette's is villainized,,, since we're going into neurological disorders Honestly, as someone w tourettes, it'd be a breath of fresh air to be treated as a villain in a movie rather than a joke

I wrote a short review on letterboxd about this movie in 2020! This was it: Was it kinda funny in a lame, cheesy kind of way? Yes. Was some of the violence brutal? Yes. Was it offensive? OH yes. Sorry, but the portrayal of people with autism is just... No. It’s like the director googled “autism symptoms” and handed the printed off page to Travolta. And frankly, it’s what made some of the violence so hard to watch. I literally watched what was supposed to be an autistic man get stabbed in the eye. And something about that doesn’t sit right with me.

"Hotter than Satan's coochie" Any other month, I'd be just laughing my ass off But being June, I laughed and also clapped at the idea that Satan could be a woman 😂 Representation is key! Happy Pride yall 🏳️‍🌈

If Kennie had a PO Box, I would send her NYX glitter primer and Peaches & Cream pigment eyeshadow in the shade Famous cause I think that she would look amazing in that.

The best part of my Saturday SpyxFamily and Bad Movies and a beat

You're always gorgeous but you look so cute in the adroll. Must be the combo of that tan and that pink or something but you are 💫glowing💫

As someone finally diagnosed with ASD this past month, this movie makes me feel so viscerally sick and I point blank refuse to watch it. BUT will I thoroughly enjoy watching Miss Kennie rip it to shreds and talk about it for half an hour? You betcha

its the weird mix of infantilizing and demonizing someone at the same time for me

Autistic people in Hollywood movies: obsessed creepy stalkers Autistic people irl: Sonic The Hedgehog merchandise collector

I've seen it. I also hated it, especially the ending because of the reason you covered. I don't know how true this is, but I read that Moose is John Travolta's favorite character that he's ever played and that he based his portrayal of Moose on his son Jett. Jett was autistic and died some years before this movie came out.

Thank you for calling out the ableism in this movie.

Not surprising to see another awful depiction of neurodiversity on film, but all of the people involved should know better 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

This movie feels even more uncomfortable knowing that John Travolta had an autistic son who passed due to a tragic situation. I'm not sure how this is in any way appropriate.

Thanks for once again suffering on our behalf, Kennie!

I always think you say “Admiral Kenny” instead of “add roll Kenny”

Obviously “Moose” is short for “Moosestaphies”. 😂😂😂 The only time I’ve heard the name Moose is from the Archie comics. I always thought it was a nickname….

I'm on the autism spectrum & a fan of Kennie's as well as Double Toasted(DT). I only know about this garbage coz the DT crew have riffed on it & still make references to it 🤣. Its cool to see DT's comedic take and Kennie's more serious look at it & its implications.

CMON TAN!! my sisters been catching some sun iktr

I remember watching the Bollywood movie that this was based on in a college film class and was equally befuddled by it 💀

I'd just like to say,,, thank you Kennie. Thanks to you I got my shit together and bought my first five squishmallows and honestly they are so lovely. Ty queen

What's up home skillet biscuits?🙋🏾‍♀️

Firet saw this movie on FanBoyFlicks. As a parent who has a child with autism; representation of autism in media is garbage. This one in particular is stupid. Yes, people who have autism get fixed interests and don't understand social norms but they also know right from wrong. CLEARLY there is something else going on with this person. Just giving him a blanket diagnoses of autism is so freaking harmful.

I have multiple autistic cousins. Some born with clef palet and with heart outside of the chest. Only one hurts himself/others very violently because he doesn’t know his own strength but he also bites. He loves maroon 5 through his headphones. He loves his family but he literally cannot control his anger. They have triggers. You will not see them unsupervised. They will not commit murder. It is the ppl that have hatred in their hearts that would pull off something like what this movie portrayed.

thank you for your point about this portrayal of autism being offensive - as someone with autism, it's so hard to find representation that isn't being played for laughs, demonised or treating us like we're all savants. i just want an autistic character who is relatable and "normal" without being creepy, a super-genius or used as a tool to progress a plot without having their own thoughts and feelings. it's weird how conflicting depictions of autism can be - we're either treated as useless burdens or have literal superpowers, no inbetween.

As an autistic person I'd like to raise my hand and say "yeah we don't do this shit"

my god we're always depicted as completely obsessed with something or someone (to the point where it's our entire personality. news flash: it's not) or wholly just a burden on our loved ones. autistic people are neither of these things. we're just people trying to get by, it's hard enough already.

Kennie I love how considerate you are when making your videos. Love watching them!

Towards the end of this movie it seems like they’re ripping off Jim Carrie’s the Cable Guy. In that movie he was also neglected by his mom and was raised by movies. He doesn’t stalk a movie star, just some random guy, but this really reminded me of that movie.

Something tells me that John Travolta thought this was gonna eat the girls up

I think I actually like the ending because I feel like victims of stalking are often more policed than their stalker. That’s the only thing that makes sense. Everything else was still a shit show 😂

John travolta is what sends me about this movie like sir you aren’t blending in shit you’re JOHN TRAVOLTA 😭😭😭

As someone who has had a stalker who was definitely not on the spectrum and knew exactly what he was doing, that is the story that should be told not putting people with mental conditions in the role of a nasty terrible person

i can't watch this video bc i'm autistic and i can tell i'll get too pissed but thank you for speaking out against offensive rep of ppl on the spectrum

Glad I caught this on time for once

my friend and i watched this movie together because we just had to see how bad it was, and i think she summed it up really well: "that movie was insanely insulting to the audience in general and autistic people in specific"

I swear this is the best part of the week.