"Why did jet powered trains never take off" sounds like a good thing to me, if it takes off then it's just a missile.
@dorsk8421 күн бұрын
Jet powered train that flys..... sounds alot like Deception Astrotrain
@thomascriviera577921 күн бұрын
Ah dammit you were here first with that XD But glad to see I am not the only sassy/funny sarcastic one here XD And boy yours is good, I already forgot mine
@M3PH1121 күн бұрын
i mean, it could have just been coz of the lack of wings but what do i know
@vinniepeterss19 күн бұрын
😂
@kazefw383418 күн бұрын
LMAO
@hrunchtayt158721 күн бұрын
Tiny (huge) correction, the engines were taken from a decommissioned B-36 and not a B-58.
@usualsuspectsgarage21 күн бұрын
i heard this in trumps voice
@hrunchtayt158721 күн бұрын
@@usualsuspectsgarage real
@Dimapur21 күн бұрын
Lives rent free @@usualsuspectsgarage
@ABrit-bt6ce21 күн бұрын
B-58 had re-heat, that would have been spectacular.
@bratpet21 күн бұрын
That's a massive error
@natehill806921 күн бұрын
I love the efficiency of having a jet engine blasting 400 degree exhaust right into the air conditioners.
@Caine32921 күн бұрын
MMM, Pure oven train
@DounutCereal17 күн бұрын
Even better is that blister on the roof of the Budd cars (or most railmotors/railcars/DMU's) is just the radiators for the engines, so you'd just have the hot jet exhaust cooking down through the roof with no climate control at all
@robertkiefer203015 күн бұрын
Oh, come on! The speed of the train would have kept things cool. :P ;D
@EvanG52921 күн бұрын
I love how most of these videos are like "This vehicle used a very unique aerodynamic phenomenon to fly" but this one is just "they strapped a jet to it"
@doylethomason601521 күн бұрын
Two J47 turbojet engines were mounted outboard of the three Pratt & Whitney R-4360 Wasp Major piston engines on each wing of the B-36 - that's where they came from
@natehill806920 күн бұрын
I kept wondering what they were talking about thats clearly a B-36 dual engine pod.
@doylethomason601520 күн бұрын
@@natehill8069 right ? I had to stop mid video , go confirm , type my comment then keep watching lol .
@natehill806916 күн бұрын
@@daveogarf "Feather six!" "Which six?"
@madmax206915 күн бұрын
@@daveogarf"two turning, two burning, two smoking, two choking and two more unaccounted for"
@chriskortan153021 күн бұрын
That engine pod looks an awful lot like the one used on the B-36D, not the B-58. An internet check shows this to be the case.
@DanielMartin-eq2kk21 күн бұрын
He literally has the book from the head engineer of the project I highly doubt the man that built it is wrong.
@chriskortan153021 күн бұрын
@@DanielMartin-eq2kk try again. All you needed to do was look it up.
@Jaggerbush21 күн бұрын
@@DanielMartin-eq2kkyou said this in another post and were corrected. He's made similar mistakes before. Idkw you can't imagine he misspoke.
@paulholmes67219 күн бұрын
Plus, the B-58 used J79 engines, NOT J47's. The B-58 was NOT surplus until 1970, 4 years after this timeframe. And yes, that is a B-36 paired engine pod with drag louvers. My question is, how the heck did the thing back up, reverse?
@fi1122220 күн бұрын
I am pretty sure that the engines are not from a B-58 but from a B-36. The mounting looks exactly the same as those found on the B-36D onwards. Also, in one picture of your video, one sees that the jets have can-type combustors, which the B-58's J-79s did not have (they had more advanced annular combustors instead), but the B-36's J-47s did have. Finally, in one picture showing the salvaged engines before mounting, one can still see the intake shutter panels that allowed the B-36 to turn off its Jet engines in cruise (for fuel economy) and rely only on its 6 radials instead. Nice video as always.
@Borsuk98821 күн бұрын
The rock thats on the rail: im boutta end this train whole career
@merafirewing659121 күн бұрын
Wouldn't that rock get vaporized?
@RedBeardTheFirst21 күн бұрын
@@merafirewing6591more like atomized
@merafirewing659121 күн бұрын
@@RedBeardTheFirst yeah if anything, the rock is going to get his career rocked.
@Borsuk98821 күн бұрын
@@merafirewing6591 i see wat u did there
@merafirewing659121 күн бұрын
@@Borsuk988 lel.
@maxmachac975621 күн бұрын
*Somewhere in the USA* "So hear me out, we will strap jet engines to a New York Metro rail car" "Genious! Youre getting a bonus!"
@Xg4531YT21 күн бұрын
Genius***
@th3_0rc8321 күн бұрын
How to make something faster? Put a jet engine on it Not fast enough? Put two jet engines on it
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory21 күн бұрын
The NYC is not called the New York City railroad. It's the New York *Central*.
@paulhunter173519 күн бұрын
The J-47's were installed in their original pods from a surplus B-36 bomber. The B-58 had four J-79 after burning turbojets that were much more powerful than the J-47 even without the afterburner.
@PlaneSaddles21 күн бұрын
Looks like the engine pod is from a B-36.
@tflemming28721 күн бұрын
Yeah. Saying the engines are from a B-58 is categorically incorrect. Different engine completely.
@VetoPowers21 күн бұрын
Maybe the inboard pair of J -47’s from the B-47. Definitely not the B-58’s J-79. Disappointing for a normally good product
@PlaneSaddles21 күн бұрын
True, I don't know how I forgot about the pods on the B-47.
@owenjones965921 күн бұрын
then engines are from a b-36 peacemaker
@robertdragoff690921 күн бұрын
I was wondering why the engine housing didn’t look quite right for a B58
@kevinbarry7121 күн бұрын
General Electric made several locomotives powered by Turbo shaft engines. They are also not a success. Much too loud, consume too much fuel, and tended to melt overpasses if parked under them
@MrCateagle20 күн бұрын
They had the same problem with steam turbine locomotives. Basically, if you are not running the turbine at its most efficient point, it guzzles fuel.
@ATomRileyA21 күн бұрын
It was a great era for trying new and crazy things so much optimism , One of the biggest downsides would have been the noise, diesel trains are pretty loud as they are with two jet engines on them it would have been deafening. Be like having a low flying jet go past each time. Still shame it was not rebuilt and ran again or at least in a museum.
@andrewevans766021 күн бұрын
That ‘record’ in 1893 was never authenticated which if they wanted to they could have with a Dynamometer car. They based this record on using a stopwatch and the distance between miles posts and not with actual measuring equipment.
@mattheuston936321 күн бұрын
And? You wanna say that time tables were off? There’s a margin of error with just about everything.
@alexandermora874621 күн бұрын
Okay am I tripping because last night I was just thinking about the picture of an abandoned train with two jets on the back what the hellllll
@ABrit-bt6ce21 күн бұрын
Thunderbirds flashback :)
@Austriantrainguy21 күн бұрын
Japan: Let´s build a highly aerodynamic high speed train that changes rail travel. France: Let´s build something that could compedte with airplanes similar to what japan built and embarres the brithish. Britain: We´re too broke to build a highspeed railline so let´s build a crappy train that leans into curvs but the leaning mechanism will make the passengers sick and break, then we will sell the patent to italy, see them improove it, get jeluos and buy it back. Sounds good, doesn´t it. Germany: Let´s build a huge diesel train that consumes ungodly ammounts of electricity while not being in service(TEE Trans Europa Express). East Germany: What´s luxury and highspeed?????? Merica: Yall think a bit: railcar + jet engine = FREEDOOOOOOOM!
@302ci196820 күн бұрын
Very good summary ! (You forgot Ze Germanz...)
@Austriantrainguy20 күн бұрын
@@302ci1968 Sry, couldn´t think of anything better.
@AusKipper120 күн бұрын
Australia: an average speed of 80kmh will be plenty for our trains, after all we are a very very small country with no massive expanses of desert or anything...
@302ci196819 күн бұрын
@@AusKipper1 excellent ;)
@302ci196819 күн бұрын
In Belgium, as in France, we have very very fast trains. It's to compensate the DAYS long strikes every year. Usually at the precise moment people try/hope to go on holiday. So, on average, we should take strikes into account. And Japan would win again !!!!
@unclenogbad150919 күн бұрын
Actually, it never ever stood a chance of being put to practical use, but even knowing that, man, I would have killed for the chance to work on such a project! Fun, or what? Whatever the positives or negatives of the engineering, the jet wash would have destroyed anything sitting trackside. Loved your animations, but look at the telephone lines running alongside and imagine how many split seconds they would survive as it passed.
@kiwitihi460621 күн бұрын
Freebird Solo is legally required to ride on this train.
@themuffincat21 күн бұрын
The song keeps playing from the starting train station to the end
@__-fm5qv20 күн бұрын
Another thing not mentioned in this video, those jet engines are loud! Can you imagine it pulling away from a train station just how deafening that would be due to the proximity of you on the platform to the jet engines on the train. It would give some people perminant hearing damage.
@POUNCEMAN16 күн бұрын
Best information I've heard about this train ,, Special Thanks for sharing
@Caine32921 күн бұрын
Now imagine this, but with the engines of the SR71
@ultimatefreedom628313 күн бұрын
😛😛😛😛😛😛ppornoooooooooo.........
@ShermanBoi18 күн бұрын
Thank you for doing a video about this. It was much needed! I am fascinated by trains, especially the weird ones!
@earthlyfamily21 күн бұрын
I like how the jet powered black beetle was almost the same jet train from coilbook 9 years ago
@JLAvey21 күн бұрын
Leaving on a jet train-- I'm still waiting to catch the first train to the moon.
@bombaya8521 күн бұрын
But, jet powered trains did take off... We just identifiy them as planes
@lolololo-cx4dp21 күн бұрын
Not really, plane has many inconvenience
@talpatv51218 күн бұрын
Planes need too much space, are unconveniant and just a pollution hazard, America should be ashamed, Europe has a whole network of high-speed trains, that are cheap and get you anywhere, America ? Mostly cargo trains, lmao
@thefancydoge86683 күн бұрын
@talpatv512 rails use land too, planes only need a runway while trains need rails from point a to b, so trains actually use way more land than planes.
@lolololo-cx4dp3 күн бұрын
@@thefancydoge8668 that's true, but train are far better at carrying volumes, wether it's a cargo or passenger.
@magicblockcraft21 күн бұрын
I would say a video about trains that are a mobile base would be awesome too! Great vid so far ❤❤❤
@kineticdeath21 күн бұрын
30k USD to build the prototype. Probably 30k USD to fuel it each run
@TheLocomotiveEngineer21 күн бұрын
There's another train in this same vein that's right up your alley - the Soviets actually made a full jet-powered 7-unit trainset in the 1970's that was basically this, but bigger! It was called the SVL.
@jur4x17 күн бұрын
Yes, L standing for laboratory. They were testing performance of train cars that are not powered by internal means. A lot of that research data was later used for trains that would potentially reach 250kph under locomotive power. But in reality they ended up with distributed power just like everyone else.
@user-ss7jl8ze9q21 күн бұрын
Nick. Are you sure the jet engines were from a B-58? They look exactly like one of the engine pods from a B-47 turned upside down.
@Aetherometricist21 күн бұрын
Based on all the corrections in the comments, you should take the video down and correct it to remove all references to the B-58, including all of the footage that you reused from the B-58 video. I'm curious how that got through research since it's such an easy fact to check.
@mattheuston936321 күн бұрын
I think you need to look at the Pennsylvania Railroad Duplexes. You’ll like them. Especially considering one has been said to have gone 150mph.
@yeoldeseawitch19 күн бұрын
the duplexes were an extremely stupid design
@mattheuston936319 күн бұрын
@@yeoldeseawitch and? Are you saying that I’m stupid for liking them or since they are stupid and they shouldn’t be covered? They’re still an important part of history, and frankly, aren’t that bad. The S1 was the only one that was truly stupid due to size. The others were fairly good at hauling ass down to NYC with three broadway limited. Not to mention they are potentially faster than mallard.
@jonny_vdv15 күн бұрын
We did (sort of) get jet powered trains, with the turbine powered UAC TurboTrain and Bombardier LRC both being relatively successful, especially on the Quebec-Windsor corridor.
@WesternOhioInterurbanHistory21 күн бұрын
I would not refer to railroads during the 1960s as have a monopoly, as they had lost their monopoly on transport decades earlier.
@jensenthegreen678019 күн бұрын
that ending, heartbreaking :(
@Ethanmyertrains10018 күн бұрын
The next video a Milwaukee Road f7 streamlined steam locomotive trains for my found and explained very exciting.❤😊😊😊❤
@herzogsbuick20 күн бұрын
ah yes, nice use of Practical Engineering's signature music, i doubt anyone will notice
@user-og8zt7bi2z21 күн бұрын
Attempt #34, the Bugatti 100P would make an awesome video!
@TrainTruck21 күн бұрын
The way it sounded like to also include into this there was also the part that other trains on the tracks would also get in the way for this to be fast and would need its own tracks. While also they didn't test it out on everything that comes down to it of what challenge trains with curves, bumps, and weight for if the jet train would be also having added carts onto it that it would reduce the speed.
@SirHenryMaximo21 күн бұрын
2:18 You just became a worthy opponent for Eminem!
@bthsr711321 күн бұрын
Ah, the twin jet engine cowling is certainly evocative of an age.
@sparky487821 күн бұрын
Vickers Viscount, the s in Viscount is silent.
@j.sterling916711 күн бұрын
Jet engines were designed to work efficiently at high altitudes, this unit was on the ground. The main braking force on a jet aircraft is it's ability to reverse thrust after landing. they couldn't do it in this application. They were right about the signals needing to be upgraded as a train going nearly 200 MPH would require more stop time (even using cab signals). You can't begin to imagine the devastation that would occur should a collision happen at a railroad crossing. Another fact is this train would need nearly perfect tracks to operate on. If they thought the cost of jet fuel was high in the 60's, they could never afford to operate it now a days, at current fuel costs.
@r3ttgaming17721 күн бұрын
It's a darn good thing these trains never "took off" if you ask me!
@t1m3f0x15 күн бұрын
The Black Beetle wasn't a prototype, it was an experimental engine. New York Central was never going to put jet propelled trains into revenue earning service, this was only ever an experiment to test the viability of high speed rail before making any commitment to the development of a conventionally propelled high speed rail vehicle. And the jet engines were from a B-36 not a B-58. Also Penn Central didn't abandon high speed rail, they just went with the Budd Metroliner which was already in production. And had already started being delivered to the Pennsylvania Railroad before the merger.
@zh8421 күн бұрын
I can't help thinking that this must also have been HORRIBLY noisy. Nobody wants to live next to an airport, and there you only get noise from aircraft at take off and landing: most of the time they are thousands of feet up and the noise is barely detectable. This is a "jet" which would spend all its time on the ground.
@arrjay241021 күн бұрын
Love your stories. One technical issue. The flickering film effect you use on the edges of the archival images, while a good visual cue about what we're watching, is irritating and distracting if you're watching on a big screen.... at least to me.
@danielkennedy560221 күн бұрын
Seems like this concept would have worked better underground like a coast to coast subway.
@madnar98 күн бұрын
It’s Action Chugger - wheels to the rails!
@nemesis777421 күн бұрын
So, the Aerotrain but not on a monorail and on the other side of the Atlantic and it didn't lost to a high speed classic train program ?
@MrCateagle20 күн бұрын
Aerotrain was an attractive concept but the passenger cars were based on GM buses and just couldn't take the pounding of railroad operations. I would love to see that engine mated with suitable passenger cars built by Budd.
@orlandoclark806221 күн бұрын
Interesting train👍
@lavawolf66615 күн бұрын
the engine from one of the the internal twin nacel of a boeing b47 stratojet or a comvair b-36 pacemaker.. not a b58 those would have after burners
@edutaimentcartoys21 күн бұрын
nice video... nice animation
@UnknownDislikeThat13 күн бұрын
“This video is brought to you by square-“ YEAH YEAH WE KNOW
@machendave20 күн бұрын
So the jet mounted over the front of the train. How thick is the shielding used to prevent the aluminium roof from melting?
@drspangle1319 күн бұрын
16:30 Where's the link to check out the book? I don't see it in the description at all
@TriJetGang21 күн бұрын
Hi!!! Remember when you said that you'd make a 777X video? Pls do that next? Btw, good video!
@MrCaiobrz20 күн бұрын
It would never work, the noise of those turbines would be impossible to silence, and no city would allow that thing near it. If Jet-engines on trains were a good at all, other countries or even the US would eventually tried more. Obviously, fuel cost were probably major, specially now that most trains are electrical.
@almaarifonlinetv20 күн бұрын
The level of details is insane...
@ricklehurst20 күн бұрын
The engines were from the Convair B-36 Peacemaker, not the Hustler. 🤦♂
@matthewwolff372921 күн бұрын
Once again, we don't have fast trains because we have faster planes!
@elemental_gaming21 күн бұрын
OMG the next video is about Su-75 Checkmate
@absiddique13921 күн бұрын
Made one about Soviet N1 Rocket 🚀
@user-jh6ik1qd7p21 күн бұрын
please make a video about the 1910 coanda, first ever "jet" biplane to possibly ever fly that was created before ww1.
@B_Balaji-Kvg.0013 күн бұрын
2:12 But isn't flying scotsman the first steam locomotive to cross 100 mph??
@bisiroberto21 күн бұрын
Looks more like the Boeing B-47 Stratojet pair of turbines.
@dhroman456415 күн бұрын
36 seconds in and the first mistake, Engines were from a B-47 complete with pod. B-47 had J47 engine B58 had J79.
@RootzHasTanks17 күн бұрын
This is definitely what New York needs
@grahamnash979421 күн бұрын
Fine way to travel if you didn't care about a loss of hearing. How loud do you reckon it got inside that thing? Anyone been in a rear engine airliner, and sat at the back would know where I'm coming from.
@bernardkealey644921 күн бұрын
The reason this didn’t take off is, (apart from no flight surfaces) noise cancelling headphone tech didn’t exist yet…
@MrCateagle21 күн бұрын
It would be interesting to revisit the concept with modern turbofan engines for better fuel economy and, with suitable mixing nozzles, would have a much reduced exhaust temperature. If you really want the minimal exhaust tempeeature possible, use the components of a modern turbofan arranged according to the aechitecture of the Garrett ATF-3 engine which was used for its minimal thermal signature in Noerhrop's Tacit Blue "stealth" demonstrator. Oh, the turboprop (well, turboshaft reall) locomotive was tried by 16:55 United Aircraft with the Turbotrain; it was not successful.
@zachsmith521620 күн бұрын
Engines are also from the B-47
@captainf3ared80220 күн бұрын
Didnt the Pennsylvania RR have a S1 or S2 duplex steam train that had an averave running speed of 120 mph and a all out 150ish speed?
@clangerbasher21 күн бұрын
Vi count with i being lengthened as in high. Not vis-count.
@liamthompson856320 күн бұрын
Wow Mustard your voice has changed!
@liamthompson856320 күн бұрын
🤭🤭
@liamthompson856320 күн бұрын
🤭🤭🤭🤭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kevinbarry7121 күн бұрын
FYI, it is Grand Central terminal; not Grand Central Station
@DEADB33F21 күн бұрын
Can it even be classed as a "train" if there's only a single carriage?
@Aahmpower19 күн бұрын
More as a locomotive, but i guess they left the carriage problem for later
@RACECAR18 күн бұрын
$30,350 might be the least amount of money spent on one of these wild projects.
@mclaggen614418 күн бұрын
One thing to remember when talking about NA steam speed records is none were measured by a dyno car so numbers were not fully accurate though it is speculated that the PRR had trains that did 130+ which would put them well above mallard's record On that note though the 1893 record was not an official record. Even NYC's own engineers doubted 999 would be able to achieve that speed and NYC and the PRR were in a pissing contest for who had the fastest trains at the time so it is highly contested weather or not it's true because the fastest trains at the time only did mid to high 80's
@georgelewington35815 күн бұрын
Please can you do a video about the f35 and its variants A/B/C/I
@akmalhafiz876317 күн бұрын
Transportation option in the US is absolutely limited.
@taitano1221 күн бұрын
MAN that thing would be loud. You think trains make too much noise now? Imagine that with a jet engine that's louder than current train horns. Yeesh!
@serdarcam9921 күн бұрын
Any running train in the north america can be considered as fastest in north america
@TheLocomotiveEngineer21 күн бұрын
I've always suspected that the Pyke Syndicate repulser train drew some inspiration from this
@herbertkeithmiller16 күн бұрын
Someone asked what if we put jet engines on a train? And everyone who lives next to a rail line said no, I would like to still be able to hear
@Knards21 күн бұрын
How much fuel would this have to carry to be used daily?
@dougkennedy490621 күн бұрын
The 1 thing you didn't compare. How loud is it compared to a diesel electric?
@ultimatefreedom628313 күн бұрын
imagine this with todays technology,and every time the train goes into a tunnel the jet engines hide like a landing gear while a diesel engine keeps runing the train in the tunnel,and when comes out,jet engines come out again,......greetings from Lima Peru......
@indigohammer573221 күн бұрын
Vickers Visscount? FFS!
@ABrit-bt6ce21 күн бұрын
Beginning to think he and Simon Whistler are voiced by bots.
@indigohammer573221 күн бұрын
@@ABrit-bt6ce Absolutely! If it's not a Bot, then I despair at the level of public ignorance being proudly displayed. Welcome to the future!!
@The_DuMont_Network19 күн бұрын
@@indigohammer5732Alas, the future is now.
@alimzazaz21 күн бұрын
“Black beetle in the city…”
@limbeboy721 күн бұрын
I swear they tested every possible engineering contraption in the 1960's
@doltsbane21 күн бұрын
I imagine someone also realized that the airlines they were competing with could put jet engines on their vehicles too, go even faster, and not have to deal with constant track maintenance or inflexible routes.
@christianholman625918 күн бұрын
Keep making videos of tarin please
@maxrander010115 күн бұрын
within less than 3 secs of hearing the reasons for this not happening i can think of a few ways around said problems one the engines used be smaller jet engines it may need more to get the same speeds but it would get over the issue with fitting in tunnels as for the jet wash causing issues a simple way around that is while in large built up areas it would have normal engines that were not jet engines to allow for it to not cause issues in built up areas these same engines could be used to allow it to both turn and reverse these few simple things done in the right way fix all their issues and make it possible to do
@5K00O11 күн бұрын
Hopefully Brightline will beat the fastest US train record.
@bee_man8421 күн бұрын
The "grandfather" of the now modern bullet train.
@lucacafissi726520 күн бұрын
Can u make a video abaout the soviet version of the jet train the ER22
@jur4x17 күн бұрын
correction, Soviet jet-train was built out of ER22 cars. But ER22 was quite common EMU. A facelift, if you wish, of an even more iconic ER2.
@awesomefan8621 күн бұрын
You dont have to change signal systems. In germany you can drive 160kph with the Standart train security system (Indusi/PZB). Faster trains like IC/ICE use a train security system called LZB. All informations are shown on display in the cab. This system is is quit old from the 60/70s