I never said you stole money.

really enjoyed this, but looking out at the crowd noticing that they are all older folk. not a single young person there. That is sad, i'm 22 and to be honest as far as education of the Catholic church goes they have done a poor job. i never learned any of this growing up in my Catholic church and am now learning about it thanks to a good Catholic friend mine pointing me into the right direction.

Catholic schools should teach the Church Fathers, I think it would help

I'm not Catholic but I enjoy listening to this fellow on the radio because he's very well spoken and is very knowledgable and doesn't try and duck tough questions.

Love, love Patrick Madrid! He is amazing! I have learned so much from the Patrick Madrid show on Relevant Radio! He knows our faith and he motivates me to be a better Catholic. He is very inspiring and I Thank God for Patrick every day. 🙏🏼

Having discovered Church Fathers at the age of 13, I have always found them more interesting to read, more practical and applicable to real life than all the novels written by Russian, Ukrainian, or English classics taken together.

Amen. Thanks for sharing this video

I went to Catholic schools run by nuns and Benedictine monks and never heard anyone say I shouldn't read the bible, in fact we were taught to read and interpret it properly 5x/week and even went to retreats every year for 8 years. I went to Catholic school from nursery-College, so from the 80s, 90s, and early 00s.

Excellent retro video. The truth is the truth. Catholicism is Divinely inspired by God. Jesus, the Word made flesh said it and the early Church Fathers affirmed it.

lets hear it for the church fathers!!!

Another great resource regarding the early fathers.

I am blown away...hair standing good.

Here in Philippines. We need people to educate us with the history of church. A lot of people are converting to born again here...so sad...and the church here is not vocal of it...only few...😞

Growing up in the Church in the 50's and 60's we had Faith in the Fathers and the Tradition of the Church. It was vibrant and beautuful, the Bible was something that was preached about for 20 minutes on Sunday for the most part, but then Modernism infected the Church and it failed to stand up for the faithful,what good is the Bible without The Church?

I love his books.

To me this sounds very much like listening to an Eastern Orthodox speaker, except without a beard. Its very nice to hear our brothers to the West are still looking back to the church fathers.

No one believes in the Bible alone They believe in the Bible and their opinion

Great talk- but JOHN MacArthur did not found Calvary Chapel. That was Chuck Smith.

I had a really hard time following him throughout the quotes. But I like Patrick Madrid very very much.

Great to hear more about the Church Fathers. For those interested in a good read, check out "Beginning to Read the Fathers", by Boniface Ramsey.

Greetings ... Thank you very much sir for your in depth sharing regarding this particular topics that helps us greatly to understand deeply and in clarity certain truth on what the Catholic faithful believes. Your sharing draws us closer to God and strengthens our faith in Jesus Christ. I am heartily grateful for your expertise on this topics as well as in presenting to us simply. This is a credible source and materials to solidly grounded the roots of our faith in history on Scripture and Tradition in the Early Church. Once again, thanks and God Bless as you continue working in the vineyard of the Lord. From the Philippines Southeast Asia

Thank you for a very helpful video. Can a transcript be provided, or failing that references to the books and essays quoted in the video ... please.

John MacArthur would be very suprised to find out that he started Calvary Chapel. Chuck Smith is the actual founder of Calvary Chapel and the man you probably meant to say.

I have been diving more and more into the writings of the early Christians, and it’s been a very interesting and informative exercise. I’ve been giving the tenet of sola scriptura a shot. The more I do though, it seems to put the cart before the horse. Not seeing how that’s logical. The Church produced and preserved the Bible (I’ll even spot you a 66 book Bible, if that is the case). Early Christians wouldn’t have even had a complete Bible to use from Day 1, as it’s not like one was left at the foot of the Cross. Sola scriptura just seems to be a one-legged stool supporting divine revelation. Doesn’t make sense that there wouldn’t be a divine teaching authority to help us understand Scripture and keep us on track and unified in understanding. Just sharing my thoughts here. Thanks for the video!

Amen...

I used to argue with my sister about her catholic faith but when I became a catholic, itbis not what people think. We do not worship Mother Mary....just like we seek others to pray for us, the same with Mother Mary whom we honour as our mother. There is a video of one guy who had a dream and vision of being brought to heaven...he saw the Lord and Mother Mary in heaven and now he has accepted Christ.

If I speak minds, I listen to others. Can others stop listening

praise GOD.....

Thanks for the reference to Cardinal Yves Congar. Very helpful.

Patrick has a wonderful intellectual affinity for Catholic Doctrine and scholarship. Living tradition is holy and allowed to change, just as Church doctrine has changed . The historical fact of two licit rites (East & West) in the Roman Catholic Church is evidence of differing (not just cultural) ritual interpretations of worship through scripture and traditions. The distinction of belief and praxis is an ecclesial good. Mr. Madrid must first understand that Christianity is a mystery religion, and truth can be but not necessarily, a dogmatic proposition.

:) the Church Father's lead me home to the Church.

7:50 what is the manistarium? or whatever u spell it?

Is there a transcription of the lecture somewhere?

Could someone write down here the name of the Cardinal that he quoted, please? I didn’t understand... By the way this video was very helpful for the strengthen of my faith, bests regards from Brazil!

I got saved through a pentecostal group. As a Catholic I lost my faith.. They are so weak in defending jesus Christ. GOD uses who he wills. The wind blows where it wills. So it is with the Lord jesus christ.I not pentecostal anymore. But the real saving faith still abides.

Why oh why quote Congar??

Amen🙏🏻

Col. 2:8

It's all about Jesus

can someone provide reference to the first quote about sacred tradition...... thanks :)

Worth considering: the Jehovah's Witnesses folks are sure that they are led by the Spirit. The LDS believers feel the same. And they have their own church traditions created by people that they are sure were led by the Holy Spirit. How do you know who is really being led by the Spirit? As an Evangelical, I go back to the scriptures. Sure, they can be perverted, but it's pretty evident when someone is doing that. JW and LDS, for example, have changed sections of the scriptures to match their doctrine. I would also disagree that a six word sentence is less open to interpretation that the Bible. The sentence was designed to be open to interpretation. The New Testament is designed to make the faith crystal clear. All those gospels and letters make it LESS open to interpretation.

The Middle East is going to be the new continent that will be beloved by Christ the Lord and Mary, the mother of Christ. The Catholic Church will find new people of God in the continent , the birthplace of the true faith. Bless be the Lord for his wonderful works among the people.

It’s not wise to say God’s Word is not pure.

I am a so-called Protestant Christian. The Bible is a "library" of books and very often there are 2 or 3 or more passages of scripture that can provide interpretation without having to refer to writings by the early Church fathers. Although I am not an expert on the writings of the Church fathers, the Catholic tradition, especially in regard to Mary, appears to have evolved later on in history. My reasoning is that if you cannot find a doctrine in the Bible or in the 2nd or 3rd century writings by the early Church fathers then it is likely to be a man-made tradition that we should ignore.

How were the Donatists not Christains?

I must say that the Catholic Church's relationship to Jehovah's Witnesses has bee anything but loving.

Mattew 24:36 36 “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows,+ neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father. Mattew 23:8-10 8 But be not ye called teachers. for one is your Teacher, even Christ. 9 You are all brothers. And call no man father upon the earth. for one is Father, which is in heaven.10 And be not ye called masters. for one is your Master, even Christ.... “YOU must not let people call you ‘leaders’​-you have only one leader, Christ!” (Matthew 23:10, The New Testament) With these words, Jesus made it plain to his followers that no man on earth would be their leader. Their one Leader would be heavenly​-Jesus Christ himself. Jesus holds this position by divine appointment.

But you can't trace it back. The early church fathers did NOT pray to Mary nor elevate her.

marc.7:13 catholics did the same

The Bible is very plain about what it means about salvation . It seems as though everyone goes to Matthew or John to find the plan of salvation but the plan of salvation is not found in the four gospels . Even though their written years later in the New Testament their still happening in the Old Testament . In Galatians 4:4 it says “ But when the fullness of time was come , God sent forth his Son , made of a woman , made under the law . 5 To redeem them that were under the law , that we might receive the adoption of sins “. So Jesus and everyone in the four gospels were still under the law of Moses until after the death , burial , resurrection , and ascension of Jesus Christ . Then on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2 the Holy Ghost was poured out on all the believers including Mary the mother of Jesus . This is when the New Testament began and Acts 2:38 was the salvation message that was given by the Apostle Peter . The 39th verse was where it passed down to us today . The Roman Catholic Church fought that message throughout the dark ages and killed the preachers and those that held on to that message by the tens of thousands . But it came through the dark ages anyway because those Apostolic’s hid underground until many years after the reformation and is having the greatest revival of truth that’s happened in hundreds of years . Just read the 24th chapter of Luke then go directly to the book of Acts and read at least through the 19th chapter . They all practiced the Acts 2:38 plan of salvation . Gods word is forever settled and no man has the authority to add to the word of God not to take away from the word of God .

Crucifixion was nailed through the wrists, not the palms. In the Greek, the wrist is part of the hand.

""Examine yourselves"" first (through the Word of ELoHiM), find all ""leaven"", then repent from them, and accept Yeshuah sacrifice for the forgiveness of your LIES==> the only Way to received Yeshuah, who is Salvation of YaH. There are many Jesus being preached in the world today; but only ONE is TRUTH. BLESSED are the ONES who find him.

Regeneration! protestants finished!

Oh wow, I so disagree with this. Eusebius tried to define an orthodox view of the relationship between church and state for Constantine. He spent a lot of time rewriting history, not just in his books, but also “church fathers”. It is best to build your theology off of the prophets, Jesus and the apostles. Ephesians 2:20.

I have nothing against papacy, but East and West have such a different mentality that you can't unite them under one theology- Western Theology. West is based on juridical principles of Roman Empire ("Sin is an offense to God's Justice which needs to be compensated"), these principles lead to such concepts, as "Merits", "Supererogation", "indlugence" and so on, building a sense of self-indulgence, egocentrism and even arrogance in humans. When one starts looking for God's "reward" for each of his virtues, a guarantee for his place in heaven for 300 "our father" prayers a day and starts seeing himself as a saint just because of some merits that he (according to his own opinion or his self-provoked visions) gained -> all this leads to a spiritual death of a human. When one starts seeing himself an "achiever" in God's a eyes instead of a mere sinner and this sense of "achievement" is backed by some spiritual "legitimacy" -> we all know what will be the end of such story. Pharisees and Scribes are saying hello. Apart from all this, I personally have nothing against Roman Supremacy and papacy as a leader of the world christianity. I only see that losing its connection with the "Church Fathers" and eastern theology would destroy that necessary fundament that all christianity is based on (this is what happened to protestantism). I have lots of Catholics as friends and some of them are catholic priests and there is already lack of unity within the Catholic Church for such questions as "salvation", "spiritual life". Some of them still adhereing the classic juridical point of view from St Anselm, some of them look for a "modern" way of describing things (s. works of E. Schillebeeckx), some are latin traditionalists, some adhere to the eastern concept of seeing sin as "illness that Jesus cured". That's quite confusing for believers, since there's no anymore a defined way of seeing things nowadays

Mr. Madrid...can you infallibly declare that your leaders can infallibly declare???

Sola Scriptura embraces only what the eye can see, while denying the Holy Spirit working through the Church. The Catholic Church that Jesus left to guide us. Also... I guess that Eunich was just to Dull to do what protestants claim...

The blood of the first 29 popes who were martyred at the time of the early Church and all other martyred Christians gave the baptism of blood to the birth of the early Apostolic Church being persecuted during the pagan Rome; and the Ordo of the rite of the Catholic Church in Latin, made that time of martyrdom part of. the foundation of the True Apostolic Catholic Church of the Son of God, Christ the Lord , who himself gave his life and blood to the Church ; similarly thus the 12 apostles in their martyrdom ; similarly thus St Peter the first pope and the rest of the successive 28 pope's after him, so similarly the blood oo those martyrs , whether children ,men, women, like St Agnes, St Agatha, St Cecilia and the rest of them that fertilized the growth of the Church in her time of struggles and survival ; so that it's hard to conceive that the bravery and the life given by the bride of Christ, in the persons of those martyrs could just be lightly forgotten as part of the strong foundation of the True Church of Christ bathed in the blood and sacrifice of martyrdom. Christ asked it of St Peter as he tried to get away from the burning of Rome. in Nero's height of madness : "Are you going to leave my children to die alone, then I'll be there to die a second time with them ", Christ said to Peter; when he met and asked the Lord going to the burning city of Rome in his vision. Peter understood the words of the Lord, and so he went back to Rome to die among the Martyrs. See the movie "Quo Vadis?" by Mervyn Leroy, screenplay by Joseph L. Mankewicz; stars: Robert Taylor, Deborah Kerr.

There's no church that can save your soul! Only through faith in Jesus is one saved. God was born a man in the Son, Jesus Christ; in Him the glory of God was seen in human flesh. By the power of His eternal spirit Jesus Christ atoned for our sins on the cross and rose from the dead! Believe in Him as your Savior and follow Him as your Lord and you'll get to Heaven! Those who _believe_ in Jesus _are_ the church of Christ.

Sacred Tradition is definitely good during times of no printing press. The repeated words and actions did carry the message to people. Now that we do have all the tools available for reading and learning, the emphasis should be on learning every word in the scripture. Tradition has limitations on the total understanding of the message by the scripture. Tradition is ritual, and Scripture is spiritual.

This guy makes up a couple of Calvin Characters

The role of works in so-called lordship salvation is that it flows out of salvation as evidence to the individual believer of their having become a new creation. That's St. Paul and St. James. To polarize about no works or in-part by works is error and it's division that is unnecessary and wrong. It's sinful conflict based in pride. The idea that sola scriptura is "tragic" is ridiculous on its face. Catholics agree with it in practice in every way except when declaring they're against it because they don't accept Luther's reasoning as valid. The discussion misses the way the Catholic church believes in SS in practice (primacy means ultimacy-it doesn't mean no human involvement), once again creating a sinful division where there could be humble unity. The earliest church fathers absolutely did agree with SS in both formulations presented, but without nuance. That fact troubles the minds of the studied Catholic, particularly clergy, but also other apologists like Madrid, because protestants don't readily take into account the value in preserving orthodoxy provided by a magisterial authority. But it's also clear that such an authority is NOT the only way God preserves his church in orthodoxy, or many remote Catholics are without such correction themselves. Often Catholics argue for the need to trust the Holy Spirit in matters, yet they don't trust Him in this area, despite the reality that a magisterium AND the work of the Holy Spirit together provide direction for Christ's church. I know this will be received by many as a "hot take," but the Catholic church behaves in its practice like it adheres to SS - including the way in which St. Basil is cited. To say otherwise begs the question - what is the limiting factor on the church's authority to declare this or that? Well, Basil himself said scripture - the earlier quote modifying the latter in Madrid's presentation in just the way one scripture clarifies another at least in principle such that students of the Bible may find sufficient understanding for good discipleship regarding the gospel for salvation. It IS proof of that. Once again, this demonstrates that the division is sinful and proud on both Catholic and Protestant sides directly to the extent they don't find that common ground and regain fellowship. These presentations are always very informative, but they show that all such efforts are seeking to demonstrate counterintuitively (at least based on Catholic claims that it's wrong we're schism'd) how division is appropriate rather than looking for how we might unite as is the command of our Savior 1 Cor. 6:7. I appreciate hearing Madrid comport with Vat.II about Protestants being brethren, which, incidentally calls to our attention that the magisterial order for the whole church hasn't preserved unity, rendering the Catholic church far from monolithic itself. Meaning, the issue is still obedience to the movement of the Holy Spirit whether by the grace of a council or directly by the Holy Spirit's grace. I'll wrap up this too-long comment with this - we're called to a ministry of reconciliation. That's all I'm trying to be about here. I pray your charity with me as I'm working towards what unites.

They were right and Mary was a sinner and she needed a Savior like everyone else needs a Savior

Mary had a very disarming sense of humour and was an excellent cook. Protestants tend to look down on that. Religious zeal or misogyny?

Ah yes. The doctrines of the insufficiency of Christ’s sacrifice and Joseph’s pants.

There are good and bad in each denomination if you are Catholic thats fine BUT if you are Roman Catholic and agree with the pope then you worship a vicar of christ and a church building not The Son of God for when we say that we can totally change the Bible and The Laws that were passed down at Mt. Sinai and a BLOOD Contract made then you go against everything in scripture and to say that all ancient writers like Polycarp, Ireanous, Clement who was a bishop not a pope Origin and others believed like the Roman Vatican is a lie those beliefs did not even start till after Constantinople and the pagan invasion into the church This is why YOU must read the writings of the ancient authors The church Is The Body of Christ not a worship building 2 writers talk about vicar Ignatius used the concept but did not use the term and was talking about amassadorship That Christ puts on us all but in particular and says ALL bishops are in the Place of God when working in the church but Ignatius never actually used the actual term vicar of Christ he just brought up the subject next was Tertullian in the Third century but he was talking about the Holy Spirit being the vicar of christ, as in Christ is not physcally performing miracles in the church, Holy Spirit act as His Vicar on His behalf. It is unkno9wn whether this term was widely used or if it was just Tertullian's own opinnion. The third time we find this term used in early church is in the 5th century with Pope Gelasius I but here they are using Vicar of Peter and Peter was the Vicar of Christ as in ministering and feeding the flock of Christ However, the use of the title to refer to the popes in the early Church was UNSTABLE , and used in alot of different ways Vicart of Peter, Vicar of the Prince of the Apostles, or Vicar of the Apostolic See. This title was also used by the PomanMissal in their prayer for a dead pope, in eastern churches is where you get the actual definition of what The Vatican uses it they got it from Boniface III which is the mix between secular government and the church read more of the ancient writters you will be amazed at how ALL denominations have misused The Bible and scripture you ko not need the traditions of the church that is how the Hebrew kept getting in trouble they worshiped their traditions over The Father in Heaven please dont make the same mistake and dont let teachers dictate to you please study the info for yourself you will fing that alot of what people say is written or they say that the ancient authors only saw it that denominations way is not telling you the truth The Father used different denominations through out history to bring out 1 or 2 truths but not any one of them teaches all truth for man's ego gets in the way of The Holy Spirit even The Pope he is human and does not have authority to change the Law of God no one has those laws have not changed in 4000 years and will not change for the next eternity it says in Revelations that we will worship, practice the Sabbaths, and all those thing that The Ancient Hebrew used to do

Btw..it helps when you don’t quote church fathers selectively. Also..catholic just means universal, it doesn’t always mean Roman catholic. Just cause a church father says catholic, doesn’t always mean Roman catholic. Lastly, tracing Roman Catholicism back to church fathers means nothing. Roman Catholicism became apostate when they added abhorrent doctrines that the earliest church fathers wouldn’t recognize. Eastern Orthodox can make the same claim and yet, they reject a lot of the doctrines Rome espouses. Do yourself a favor and research when some of these heretical doctrines came into practice. You will find that most are within the last 600 years and none come before 300Ad. I am referring to Mariology, Transubstantiation, Papacy and Papal infallibility.

Don't trust anyone. Do you own research.

You can't rely On the church fathers the bible is the only authority ni support in the bible that Mary was immaculate or that she was not a sinner Romans tells us all have sinned that includes Mary church fathers some were okay others not start with the bible not the church fathers. purgotary us not found in the bible praying to saints no support in the bible please do your home work

7:56 Dogmatic constitution

“I never said you stole money” Yes this statement can have multiple meanings if you just say the one statement in isolation. In reality, this statement would probably be said in the context of a larger conversation. In context of a conversation, it would be much much harder to misinterpret the individual statement. The Bible is not an individual statement but a whole conversation. You should not interpret any Bible verse in isolation but in the context of its much larger conversation in each book and then within the message of the Bible as a whole. I just don’t see this as a good argument.

Patristics was one of the first things abandoned by the Protestants, albeit often in a very cherry picking way, as in both Martin Luther in the 16th c. and James White in the 20-21st centuries. The ECFS were undeniably Catholic and many of them in the era of the Church of the Martyrs have this particulaly effective voice in refuting thel Protestant errors, which why some, like Asaph, just want to dismiss the ECFS utterly by bogus claims of widespread forgery.

I appreciate the difficulty in interpreting the Bible by itself. But interpreting history and tradition is just as difficult. And then interpreting what a preacher says, can often be even more difficult. I would have to already believe in your interpretation being correctly derived from your sources into your mind, and then believe in your ability to communicate correctly with me, and then in my ability to interpret what you say. I think a more honest view of the problem, would be to not insist that any one church has the correct interpretation, as that is impossible, but that all are skirting around it. They should find unity in coming together and discussing it honestly. I see both Catholics, protestants and Orthodox all too happy to quote the fathers out of context to support their position. As an outsider, this is making it really hard to actually join any Christian community. I'm also fearful of just joining the one with easy answers like "we have the correct interpretation". For sure, those who ignore the tradition are likely to be wrong, but also those who imagine themselves to be able to preserve tradition without it changing, are also likely to be wrong. Words change meaning, concepts shift. We might read the word nature and in our head get completely different ideas from what a reader would 1000 years ago.

Tradition is not truth.

This brother does not seem to understand that Protestants have Church fathers even though they deny this and claim to be solely based on sola scriptura, so the more academic they are the more they can combat your church fathers, and their antiquity does not give them greater authority This does not give any of you the right to interpret the whole canon of Scripture by your popes or paternal authorities Why did the Eternal Word manifest in the Flesh not write a book ? because God the Father and the Son sent the third person in the trinity to guide every Christian into all truth, but as Stephen says in Acts chapter 7, to God's chosen people, you always resist the Holy Spirit, as your fathers did so do you

Isn't it praying, worshipping and exalting Virgin Marry is against God's will. Romans 1:15 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator--who is forever praised.

Madrid is a dishonest lay researcher

Scripture is the ONLY source of GOD-Breathed truth. (2Tim 3:16). Any teachings that conflict with it are false. Infallibility and goddess worship, forced celibacy, infant baptism, purgatory and victimizing Christ on an altar over and over again, are just a few of them. Try this: wasn’t Jesus trying to stop maryology in Luke 11:27-28? Tradition according to Paul was that information that was already established (past tense) not in the future made up by man. Thank God I am no longer a member of the RCC. I am a follower of Christ not of men.

I'm not Catholic. I'm not Protestant. I'm exclusive Kjb.

I never said you stole money. Changing the emphasis on the delivery of the statement does not change what the HOLY SPIRIT will put in the hearts of man and DIRECT what is TRUTH!!! Sorry but was totally weak!!!

The Catholic Church will never listen to the clear statements of St. Peter himself who declared and confirmed his official office in the Church as that of "an Apostle," (1 Peter 1:1 and 2 Peter 1:1). Peter never claims an higher office than that of "an apostle" and always refers to Christ as the Rock (petra) of the Church, ... referring to Christ as "A stone of stumbling, and a rock (Petra) of offense.” (1 Peter 2:8).

THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IS BEING CLEANSED: FOR GOD IS PREPARING HIS CHURCH

The holyscritures are the last authority, not the church tradition.👎

Oh i am 72 n Thank GOD, i was set free from the roman church based (20yrs ago) on fallible men's teaching, who taught me to pray to a dead woman💀, albeit the human mother of Our LORD GOD, JESUS CHRIST n i have never looked back. Praise GOD i have been worshipping in a Holy Bible based church n Thank GOD i have led many many out of this roman church n into Protestant Churches! 💝

nor is the pope infallible

The Apostle Paul wrote that whoever preaches a different gospel, let him be accursed. Do Catholics teach the same gospel that Paul did? First, let's look at the teachings of Christ, "This is eternal life that you know God and Jesus Christ Whom He has sent." No talk of baptism here (though baptism is important). No talk of communion (though that is important as well). Salvation, then, is predicated on one thing: do you know the Lord? For example, to the condemned, Christ will say, "Depart from Me; I never knew you." Yet, Catholics teach that you cannot be sure of your salvation. However, how can you know the Lord and not know it? John 14.23 says of those who love the Lord that, "My Father will love them and we will come to them and make our home with them." Is God both family and friend to you? Do you have that kind of relationship with God or simply 'know about God'? For example, I know who the President is (and I pray for him!), yet I do not know him personally. He is not like family and friends who are there in fun times and sorrow, who call me on bad thinking and poor choices, yet who overwhelmingly love and encourage me. Yet, is Christ both friend and family to you? Is He your good friend or do you feel more comfortable 'talking to Mary'? On that great and terrible day, will He welcome you into the joy of your Lord or will He say, "Depart from Me; I never knew you"? A simple - and honest! - reading of the Bible will convince you that Catholics contradict the words of Christ. I write this in great love and concern that those who read it may obey the words of Christ. Jesus Christ is the light of the world.

But tradition is condemed by Jesus himself. Sorry charlie. You are wrong. Solo scriptura.

Quite enjoyable lecture but typical Catholic scheme, scares everyone away from scripture lest they private interpret and fall into error. Saints will be comforted to learn that our Lord Jesus always challenged people to be acquainted with scripture, even the apostle Peter says desire the sincere milk of the word. Let me add, the Lord said, "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceed from the mouth of the church fathers? No! the mouth of God! For a church that has a habit of sneaking in trash into the Christian faith, one must take these thing they teach with a pinch of salt. You don't need tons of church father's writings to be a good christian. Being a church historian hobbyist, I know what I am talking about. Just Augustine , Origen, Aquinas will take you years to go through their works and yet there are hundreds others. Use scripture to weigh whatever anyone says and if you seek the Lord in truth you shall surely know him. Blessed is a man who knows his God and does not have to depend on manipulators to be tossed him to and fro.

I was believer in the 💒 of rome for 24 spiritually dead unbiblical yrs from 1972 till 1966, when i read my Holy Bible on my own n was astounded that CHRIST's Salvation was purely by His Grace, never by our good works(pl read your Holy Bible from Ephesians Chapter 2 Verses 8 to 9) I will never never go back to this 💒 some of its priests n some popes were really wicked evil people! 👏👏👏👏👏👏

Here is the DIFFERENCE between a Catholic apologetic speaker and a Fundamental "protestant" preacher. When the Catholic is through "speaking" what does the average audience do? They MEDITATE on WHAT he said and are either persuaded by his arguments or are not persuaded by his arguments. When the Protestant is through speaking what does the average audience do? They go to the Bible to "see if those things are true". Acts 17:10 And the brethren immediately sent away Paul and Silas by night unto Berea: who coming [thither] went into the synagogue of the Jews. Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received THE WORD (my note: from God) with all readiness of mind, and SEARCHED THE SCRIPTURES daily, whether those things were so. The Catholic "laity", according to the Magisterium, is NOT ALLOWED to "search the scriptures" in order to VERIFY the TRUTH of what is being said by the Catholic "teacher". In essence only the Magisterium, i.e. the hierarchy, is QUALIFIED to understand scripture and therefore interpret scripture, something not even Paul nor Silas ever held. The Catholic "red herring" about Protestants is the idea that Protestants reject "tradition". The PROTEST with Rome was not about "tradition". The PROTEST in essence was the FACT that the INDIVIDUAL believer was IMPOWERED by God to be able to UNDERSTAND and INTERPRET scripture. Patrick Madrid makes scripture to be a "haze" and a "cloud" which requires SPECIAL interpretation by a "magisterium", a position totally against what is written: 1John 2:26 These [things] have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 1John 2:27 But the ANOINTING (my note: endued with power/ability/authority) which ye have received of him ABIDETH IN YOU, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. The INDIVIDUAL Christian (the believer in the Son of God, the resurrected and immortal Lord Jesus Christ, who sits at God's right hand in Heaven, and whom God the Father will send back to Earth to rule forever) has been given, not only the authority, but the ABILITY to UNDERSTAND and INTERPRET the Word of God. Rome does NOT BELIEVE 1 Jihn 2:27. I do. For centuries nothing has changed with Rome. They want to be the ones IN CONTROL of the minds of men (and their personal property) by having them ANATHEMATIZED if they refuse to acknowledge the "Magisterium" as THE AUTHORITY over their souls. Madrid is merely affirming the "red herring" of Rome and he does an extremely good job as a "shill". Why doesn't Madrid tell the "laity" to, "READ AND STUDY YOUR BIBLES, IMBIBE IN THE WORD OF GOD, and once you have done that, THEN and ONLY THEN, come and ask questions." ? When I was in Catholic schools I was always given "homework". I had to READ and STUDY from the BOOKS of the curriculum. I could not just "show up" in class without having READ and STUDIED and then start asking questions, expecting to be "spoon fed". Prov 2:1 My son, if THOU wilt receive MY WORDS, and hide my commandments with thee; Prov 2:2 So that THOU incline thine ear unto wisdom, [and] apply THINE heart to understanding; Prov 2:3 Yea, if THOU criest after knowledge, [and] liftest up THY voice for understanding; Prov 2:4 If THOU seekest her as silver, and searchest for her as [for] hid treasures; Prov 2:5 Then shalt THOU understand the fear of the LORD, and find the knowledge of God. Prov 2:6 For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of HIS mouth [cometh] knowledge and understanding. Who is being admonished in the previous verses? The INDIVIDUAL, you! You are to "seek", you are to "cry out", you are to "search", you are to "incline your ear". To WHAT the "magisterium" says? No! It is to the "Words of God" Himself as Jesus said to the Pharisees, the "magisterium" of that time: John 5:39 Search THE SCRIPTURES; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. Those who are "in charge" are in the same manner SUBJECT to God's Word. They are not excluded nor excused from the admonishment. In essence God makes no distinction between a supposed "clergy" and a "laity"; that is the "RUSE" of Roman Catholicism. "THEY" have the power and control and "WE" have to obey without question or else be "anathematized". Google: "Rome's Position on Obeying or Disobeying the Magisterium". If you want to be a "good" Catholic then casually "read" your bible. BUT do not rely on it for wisdom and understanding of God, to do that you have to SUBMIT to the "magisterium" and THEIR wisdom and understanding. It's YOUR choice! I, a "cradle Catholic", have chosen to get my understanding and wisdom FROM the Word of God as it plainly and clearly says. Prior to the dissemination of the printed word in the vernacular the ordinary person had either very limited access or no access to the Word of God. Now that you can go to the "dollar store" or even get a free Bible from the "Gideon Society" there is NO EXCUSE. READ AND STUDY YOUR BIBLES! IMBIBE IN THE WORD OF GOD! Get "wisdom", get "understanding", search the SCRIPTURES DAILY, if you truly want to KNOW God. Madrid does not "preach" nor "teach" the Word of God; he merely "parrots" Rome, i.e. WHATEVER the "magisterium" has programmed to say. If he says ANYTHING contrary, not to the "Word of God" but to the "magisterium", he will be EXCORIATED by them. So, since his "career" and his "bread and butter" are in the hands of his "masters", he will not "bite the hand that feeds him", therefore, he is an extremely LOYAL Catholic and will, if the "magisterium" wills it, call WHITE as BLACK and call BLACK as WHITE. The "sola scriptura" and "sola fide" accusations against Protestants are mere "red herrings". Ignorant Protestants have "bought into" those so called arguments against them. The purpose of doing such a thing is to deflect the REAL ISSUE which is, "WHAT IS ACTUALLY WRITTEN" in the scriptures. In order to find out you MUST READ IT FOR YOURSELF as the Bereans did in the Acts account; you CANNOT and SHOULD NOT just take a "man's word for it". Ps 119:9 BETH. Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed [thereto] ACCORDING TO THY WORD. Ps 119:11 THY WORD have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. Ps 119:25 DALETH. My soul cleaveth unto the dust: quicken thou me according to THY WORD. Ps 119:38 Stablish THY WORD unto thy servant, who [is devoted] to thy fear. Ps 119:41 VAU. Let thy mercies come also unto me, O LORD, [even] thy salvation, according to THY WORD. Where is the appeal to go to a "magisterium" or a "preacher" or "the flesh" for ANSWERS? Go to God and His WORD! Dont' let someone's "spin" take you off the path of life. Ps 119:105 NUN. THY WORD [is] a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.