The Fatui Chessboard and why the Fatui are Winning [Genshin Impact Trailer Analysis]

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@Nokyyyyy
@Nokyyyyy Жыл бұрын
"Celestia can't win" Celestia: throws pillar in Snezhnaya
@kendola
@kendola Жыл бұрын
You made me laugh good sir.
@isabelleambrose9293
@isabelleambrose9293 Жыл бұрын
💀
@atharvakpatil
@atharvakpatil Жыл бұрын
Tsaritsa : throws pillar back at celestia
@Asm0sday
@Asm0sday Жыл бұрын
Celestial can't winning is completely cap,even if they collected all gnosis,we don't know celestial god power
@jellojt4012
@jellojt4012 Жыл бұрын
u made me laugh loud asf
@mariapazgonzalezlesme
@mariapazgonzalezlesme Жыл бұрын
Despite all the heroic deeds that the Traveller has done, they only managed to slow down the Fatui's plans. I like this because it shows how powerful are the villian faction, and rising new stakes for future stories.
@infectedumbrellagrunt3682
@infectedumbrellagrunt3682 Жыл бұрын
As heroes by tradition always prevail in the end, I can only hope that the stakes remain genuinely high with top-tier dramatic tension up to the point where the winds of fate and destiny blow the other way as their own schemes unravel and the very Heavens plot against them in a fitting fashion.
@Willhascookies
@Willhascookies Жыл бұрын
Which make sense considering the traveller is just one person while the Fatui is an entire organisation with large sums of resources at their disposal. Not to mention the nations are trying to fix their own problems that only get solved when the traveller shows up. I like it, realistic scenarios.
@Azaleaaah
@Azaleaaah Жыл бұрын
Hopefully their inevitable loss will be dramatic and not dumb or anticlimactic
@infectedumbrellagrunt3682
@infectedumbrellagrunt3682 Жыл бұрын
@@Willhascookies Even with all that, we'll still have to remember that even with the Fatui being a military-economic-political powerhouse. They still lack what the Traveler has which is plot armor, player control, and the player knowledge that the final chapter of Teyvat is not Snezhnaya but Khaenri'ah or maybe even Celestia.
@Ind_u.
@Ind_u. Жыл бұрын
Tbh.. as much I know.. Traveller has not really actively trying to hunt down the fatui.. they just take them as bad guys and fight when situation depends... he is still primarily looking for his sibling 😁.
@uzumazin5099
@uzumazin5099 Жыл бұрын
*Tsaritsa:* Are ya winning, gang? *Fatui:* Yes, my queen.
@Twocat5side
@Twocat5side Жыл бұрын
The show has already begun
@fernandosiahaan906
@fernandosiahaan906 Жыл бұрын
Proceed to set up zoom meeting with Princess abyss Lumine to talk about alliance to bring down celestia 🤣
@oscarrickyh02
@oscarrickyh02 Жыл бұрын
Talk about lore: In the trailer we saw white's knight moves to take a pawn (specifically the move Nxf7). It is believed that that pawn symbolizes signora (the crimson butterfly came towards the fallen pawn). From your chess analysis, prior to that move, white has a considerable amount of advantage. But after that move, as you have proved, white is dead lost. So maybe the lore is somewhere along the line of killing signora is a huge blunder to whoever opposing fatui's side and it will start going downhill after that
@The1andonlysharpshooter
@The1andonlysharpshooter Жыл бұрын
so basically, it is our fault. the traveller. That duel would’ve never happened if we didn’t get enraged. And Raiden was going to kill whoever lost that fight anyways. (and even attempted slicing traveller after they got out) Signora was having a normal business meeting before Kujou and us showing up and demanding a dance to death. So- did *we* royally screw up for celestia?😦 do we even care because do we even like celestia? 😭
@rootiyk5032
@rootiyk5032 Жыл бұрын
Maybe Signora's death is actually beneficial to fatui?
@jonnypma
@jonnypma Жыл бұрын
@@The1andonlysharpshooter its actually the fault of zhongli. the rook taking the pawn would be the best move :D
@zerefsunlimitedshipworks
@zerefsunlimitedshipworks Жыл бұрын
Just found a game that looks like this, but with the kings and queens swapped: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9WafKpz0c2afoU.html&ab_channel=thechesswebsite
@brago900
@brago900 Жыл бұрын
That's good for the narrative.
@AlexT7916
@AlexT7916 Жыл бұрын
The old man who I am assuming is the leader of the Fatui said "however , on this board , check mate is not the end" , which I think it means that for the Fatui to truly win they would need to get rid of EVERY. SINGLE. PIECE. ON. CELESTIA'S. SIDE.
@dx_Rain_xb
@dx_Rain_xb Жыл бұрын
That kinda begs the question... Which side will the Traveler be on? What Chess piece is he? What will be his role be in this board if he gets promoted as a pawn?
@AlexT7916
@AlexT7916 Жыл бұрын
@@dx_Rain_xb The Traveller could be a Pawn , a Bishop , A Knight , a Rook . Hell ! They could even be the King !
@Asm0sday
@Asm0sday Жыл бұрын
Lmao how are they gonna kill a god? Demigod is possible but god especially celestial? Yeah no man
@Greyshi
@Greyshi Жыл бұрын
I feel like they don't need to actually kill anyone, just get all the Gnosi. Which what they were doing this whole time. With them all, they might be able to confront Celestia directly, which is something that all known (ex) Archons would probably turn blind eye to. Now what the heck are they planning to do to make the Gods above Gods submit to mortals... That's an interesting question for sure.
@TheLastPhoen1x
@TheLastPhoen1x Жыл бұрын
@@dx_Rain_xb I think the Traveler is a honorary Knight. And the black knight is the other twin.
@preetigupta5933
@preetigupta5933 Жыл бұрын
Everybody forgets the most important lind by jester where he says that checkmate is not the end of this game and if crimson witch of flames and scaramouche are denoted by pawns that that means that 8 out of the 11 fatui are pawns so only 3 are central peices. Add one more as tsaritsa. We still have 4 undisclosed peices on the black side so does that mean that we still dont know the real enemies
@ChillwithAster
@ChillwithAster Жыл бұрын
Ye, this is just a board analysis, not a lore analysis Not yet at least
@tsukasayugi7431
@tsukasayugi7431 Жыл бұрын
i think the 3 are the strongest seeing that they are all ranked by strength 1 being the leader 2 being that dude in the like general hat and 3 being the girl laying on the coffin
@ChazNatlo
@ChazNatlo Жыл бұрын
Although how would the board analysis work out if you change the win condition?
@firby7341
@firby7341 Жыл бұрын
BUT is the tsaritsa really the king ? i think she isnt displayed on the board. i think the tsaritsa is such a central piece that even after checkmate, even if the king of the fatui side falls, the tsaritsa would still be there and thats why checkmate isnt the end. so lets assume none of the displayed pieces is the tsaritsa. white has: venti (queen), zhongli (rook), raiden (horse, bc that figure killed the signora-pawn), 4 pawns which are probably the 3 other archons and the traveler, as well asthe king (whoever that is, maybe the sustainer of heavenly principals? depending on her role in being divine. so if sustainer was the "end goal" she wouldnt be on the board since checkmate doesnt end the war (i assume that applies to a checkmate for either side)) so its either not sustainer or sustainer isnt the final enemy. the fatui have: king (pierro/jester bc he is the leader of the eleven, my assumption), queen (?), rook (?), horse (?) and three pawns. its hard to connect those figures to the fatui, so i think its easier to see which fatui are missing: obviously signora and scaramouche. that would mean 9 left. but we have 7 figures. i assume childe, as the (currently) only playable harbinger might not be on the board anymore since he has already fulfilled his job (in liyue). that would leave 8 harbingers. maybe even the jester isnt on the board, since he actually is playing the game, moving the figures (commanding his subordinates). with this assumption, the mathematics work (but we now dont know any role connection since jester wont be the king). just some thoughts after watching the video, the trailer and staring at the chessboard xD
@nwaanwaa802
@nwaanwaa802 Жыл бұрын
The black horse has to be the sibling which we can add to the harem after being with them.
@CelesNihility
@CelesNihility Жыл бұрын
CN script for people who want to look for slight differences: Pierro: The sages think themselves to be all-knowing. But only then did those of us started to understand the virtue behind those foolish actions. Pierro: There's no such thing as an expendable one (弃子 "a piece that can be thrown away") in this war. Pierro: Because when it comes to this particular game of chess, [Checkmate] is not the finish line (终点: the finish line, the end). Columbina singing~ Pulcinella: We are gathered here today to honor our good comrade. Pulcinella: To the entirety of Snezhnaya, her sacrifice is worth a whole half day of "Halting Work and Mourning as a Nation". Pantalone: Heh, merely half a day? Pantalone: People say the currency that circulate within the Northland Bank are blood, tears, and the screams of agony. Pantalone: But Mr. Mayor, with due respect your sense of value is even more twisted and warped than me, a banker. Arlecchino: Rosalyne fell from grace in an foreign (or unfamiliar) land.... Arlecchino: To you lots, the rich businessmen and important dignitaries, who not only lack empathy, but also know only about how to find excuses to turtle up inside snezhnaya, her experience is something that you probably cannot even imagine. Arlecchino: So why not be good and keep your mouth shut, or else the children are going to cry. Tartaglia: Aye aye, even I don't think this is the right time or place for [fights]. Sandrone: humph, utterly risible (ridiculous/laughable). Capitano: Though her method tarnished honor, Lohefalter's sacrifice is still a great pity. Capitano: Her departure will not stop our steps. But rather, [Dottore], Where is [Scaramouche] and Inazuma's Heart of God (神之心)? Dottore [Unknown life segment]: The common sense of this world all think that [The Gnosis of God] (神之智识) is divine knowledge incomprehensible to reason and rationality. Dottore [Unknown life segment]: After conquering [The Gaze of God], he will be taking a brand-new step forward. Pierro: It's time to end tonight's foolish theatrics. At the moment, you guys have no audience. Pierro: Let all noble sacrifices be carved in ice, and endure for all time together with this nation. Pierro: Under the command of her noble and pure majesty, the Tsaritsa, we shall seize the authorities of the gods.... (Tsaritsa uses her power to entomb the entire meeting room, where the harbinger were placing the coffin, in ice) Pierro: Absolute peace. Pierro: This is the blessing of the Tsaritsa, this is her benevolence. Pierro: Even though you will slumber within this coffin, slumber within this layer upon layer of ice. Pierro: But Rosalyne, I promise you..... Pierro: Your catafalque, shall be the entire [old world]. Columbina: Doctor, you are looking very young today. Dottore [Unknown life segment]: You should know, that sentence doesn't exactly count as a compliment when it comes to me. Columbina: Then that [biopsy/slice/segment] of the prime of his life, where is it at this moment? Dottore: Humph, he's at an experiment related to [Blasphamy]. Then Collei part is the same.
@nabieladrian
@nabieladrian Жыл бұрын
Very interesting that this time the translations are more lined than previous works, thank you!
@ICNHH
@ICNHH Жыл бұрын
can anyone spot out the differences
@TheGameRuler
@TheGameRuler Жыл бұрын
What's interesting there is the fact that in the CN Script, Pierro says that no Pawn is "throwable", meaning they literally need as many pieces as they can to win what's to come, indicating a "sacrificial move" is only ever done if they absolutely need it. So that would mean that even the lowest ranking member has their use and can be a detriment if lost. If this is his point of view... then that means that a loss such as a Harbinger is highly significant. To note, that a Checkmate is not the goal is HIGHLY important. It means they may be aware that a direct attack to the "King" may not help them win against Celestia. Rather, it may be because the ennd result is too costly. And hoenstly makes sense. Consider Khaenri'ah. It had armies large enough of Abyss monsters and Automatons to the point all the Nations were attacked during the Cataclysm... and it failed before Celestia and the Gods. Imagine a nation that doesn't have those benefits... they probably couldn't even win, even if the other antions rallied they would be hard pressed. That said, their goal may be to either amass power to defeat Celestia as quickly as possible... or to amass just enough power to create a standstill where neither side can actually win (think cold war USSR and USA).
@cid3303
@cid3303 Жыл бұрын
@@TheGameRuler why would they want a standstill? Pierro clearly states they will sieze the authority of gods and the way i interpreted the checkmate is that their goal does not end just there(this means the checkmate is eliminating Celestia) but to replace it themselves
@D3A6
@D3A6 Жыл бұрын
Columbina is the one who calls Dottore young
@Nyhilist_
@Nyhilist_ Жыл бұрын
Genshin: "The fatui are winning" Celestia: Time to deploy the Tennison gambit, intercontinental ballistic missile variation [drops nail]
@ryanwilliams8723
@ryanwilliams8723 Жыл бұрын
They could, the question is, why haven't they? The fatui aren't being subtle about their motives and celestia destroyed khenria for opposing the gods so why haven't they brought the hammer down the hammer on snechnya yet. I suspect there's something up in celestia we don't know about yet that's limiting their ability to intervene.
@ryanwilliams8723
@ryanwilliams8723 Жыл бұрын
@Harry Shade personally, I'm pretty sure the cataclysm was celestias intervention, a punshment far khenriah going too far in their defiance of the heavenly princibles with the after affects hitting both sides. Khenruah just got blamed afterwards to keep celestias image clean and they were either dead or cursed into monsters other than dainsleif so they couldn't really argue against it.as for the abyss, while I could be wrong, I don't think there's any evidence khenriahs association with it predates the cataclysm itself.
@fernandosiahaan906
@fernandosiahaan906 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanwilliams8723 they been quiet since princess abyss lumine keep eyeing them lol
@onnopleaseno649
@onnopleaseno649 Жыл бұрын
i think a missing piece (heh) is really what celestia needs to turn the tides, that being the electro gnosis which is currently missing with scaramouche, the problem is that scaramouche is more of a wild card than a piece on the board because we dont know how much loyalty he has to the tsaritsa or the fatui, we have to remember while pierro is playing this game the pieces can decide where to move.
@juanito5582
@juanito5582 Жыл бұрын
Scaramouche isn't even loyal to the fatui in the first place, he just joined because he was bored.
@maheshwarisemwal3921
@maheshwarisemwal3921 Жыл бұрын
Scaramouche is such an interesting and well written character, who knows what he's upto next...
@senu.
@senu. Жыл бұрын
he's not, he couldn't care less all he wants is his heart who knows what's gonna happen with a rogue scaramouche with a gnosis he might go berserk and there we have a perfect set up for his boss fight
@harukinakamura6630
@harukinakamura6630 Жыл бұрын
Even if he decides to surrender it his actions will not go unpunnishable and will likely be executed by the harbingers/ the cryo archon
@lahie16
@lahie16 Жыл бұрын
@@harukinakamura6630 I hope Ei doesn't just keep up her dead beat mom act and let them kill him willy nilly.
@paiman1288
@paiman1288 Жыл бұрын
Funny how venti is the archon of freedom but his queen chess piece is trapped
@LynnToledo
@LynnToledo Жыл бұрын
Which is a great irony.
@phenny1057
@phenny1057 Жыл бұрын
It actually makes sense but is unironically funny because he let his gnosis get taken away. So it's safe to say that Venti's gnosis is trapped for a good reason. 💀
@arouraskeatch5903
@arouraskeatch5903 Жыл бұрын
I think that was the point of yoinking his first, tbh. He might be the "weakes archon" but I think if they took that to heart and didnt bother with him till later, venti may well have undone there plans. He's clever and as the other gods learn to let humanity take the reigns, mondstat is already perfectly stable with or without there god. It hurts my heart to admit it bec hes my B A B Y 😟 but clipping the god of freedoms wings was probably the only way to tackle the 7 at all.
@morceen
@morceen Жыл бұрын
@@arouraskeatch5903 Mondstadt is poor, backward and indebted to Snezhnaya, has the smallest population in Teyvat, have no forms of education or economy besides the wine making and are surrounded by hard terrain including their waters. It is socially and politically the weakest nation behind Inazuma. I assume that would be the case for Naltan too, while Liyue, Sumeru, Fontaine and Snezhnaya all have advantages in forms of tech, military, economy, science, location, population and the presence of centralised government bodies.
@arouraskeatch5903
@arouraskeatch5903 Жыл бұрын
@@morceen yeah but Rex lapis 'died' and liyua fell into disarray and only recovered so quickly because he told the head honchos that he wasnt really dead. If the Riden Dhogun died, Inazuma would be completly fucked because she runs litterally everything. They all report to her. Venti could drop dead in the next update and what's really gonna happen?? The people who knew him will be sad. It might rain in mondstat bec of the entire animo archons blessing thing but that's it. Venti has no hands in how mondstat is run or maintained or protected. His people probably wouldn't even notice till the next thing that actually needs a god to shoot it down appears in the sky and that could be hundreds of years from when he drops! Mondstat may not be the best or greatest civilisation in Tivat but its the most stable in that Venti can meddle where he likes because if it gets him killed, mond is gonna be fine. Ironically or maybe intentionally, the Archon of freedom has the most freedom to oppose the fatui because nothing really hinges on him one way or the other
@thebidge
@thebidge Жыл бұрын
Before: The fatui are screwed Aster: Nooooo New trailer got release: Aster: YES
@2t0y
@2t0y Жыл бұрын
you gotta wonder which side she's on.😅
@thebidge
@thebidge Жыл бұрын
@@2t0y Mmmmmh, yeeahh, I really wonder on which side she is considering all of her Fatui related video
@infectedumbrellagrunt3682
@infectedumbrellagrunt3682 Жыл бұрын
By the grace of her Majesty the Tsaritsa, I hope that they will keep winning as much as possible. I know that their ultimate loss is unavoidable but I hope that it will be a grand loss, not one created out of stupidity, blunders and forced plot moments. Praise the Motherland, and may the Land of Ice and Frost crush the Abyss.
@ayansingh6793
@ayansingh6793 Жыл бұрын
Complete victory belongs to her Majesty
@Nokyyyyy
@Nokyyyyy Жыл бұрын
Hail the mighty traveler, as they should restore peace for everyone in this land and under it
@grass3056
@grass3056 Жыл бұрын
hail the almighty tsaritsa
@morganvanlenthe5425
@morganvanlenthe5425 Жыл бұрын
To be honest I think they’ll win because I think we’re gonna team up with them. I really truly do
@onionarmpit
@onionarmpit Жыл бұрын
@@morganvanlenthe5425 I think the traveler will temporarily completely halt the Fatui's plans and then face the abbys before realising that the problem is celestia and then go back to the Fatui to help them speed up their plans so it'd be the Abbys+Fatui vs Celestia maybe? Probably not because so far the traveler very much sees the Fatui as the enemy and strongly dislike the members but I can see them teaming up with ge Fatui 🤷‍♀️
@kappaspinning4832
@kappaspinning4832 Жыл бұрын
From a post in NGA (chinese forum) I read that if the one taken out the signora (peon) was the rock (morax gnosis) then the winrates would have turned and instead the white would be the winning side. Also it is already mentioned in the comment section but the victory condition of this game is not checkmate. Consider that venti and morax have "given up" their gnosis, their pieces would not act normally and instead go afk or even turned to the fatui side.
@Alisha-tg4sd
@Alisha-tg4sd Жыл бұрын
“We finally see a board!” -ChillWithAster 2022
@0DeathTheKid15
@0DeathTheKid15 Жыл бұрын
I believe that, even if the Fatui are "winning" the Traveler will be allways there biggest Problem. And not just because we are the Protag. its because we are the unknown piece. The Fatui made there plans a long time ago but they could never forsee a person from another world. I think that is our position at the Fatui Board. The unknown piece with no real side.
@aniketgupta8988
@aniketgupta8988 Жыл бұрын
Yup, this is the comment I was looking for, I actually thought the same thing when I first came to know the chess theory. The Fatui believes Ei killed her, but they don't realise that Signora died because she lost the duel to the Traveler, and with the recent leaks that Scaramouche is going to join the Traveler's side, it's the Traveler that is going to make a difference in this war because he has the complete freedom to choose any side he wants
@Gengchen82
@Gengchen82 Жыл бұрын
@@aniketgupta8988 travelers side will be the side of her/his twin or dainsleif, so the abyss, neither celestia nor fatui
@deathwingthedestroyer3632
@deathwingthedestroyer3632 Жыл бұрын
They’re probably not on the board to begin with and even if they were as established by the fact that they don’t really go by anyone’s rules they could really do anything as they can just use the power of all chess pieces because they can and no one can tell them not to and what makes it even more ridiculous is that they can potentially use them all simultaneously. It’s basically like the perfect chess piece but although this magnum opus of a chess piece is powerful currently it hasn’t awakened it’s full potential yet as it’s true powers are temporarily sealed.
@pamelajohnson2043
@pamelajohnson2043 Жыл бұрын
HELP U FLEW RIGHT OUT AFTER CLASSES I LOVE THE DEDICATION U PUT IN UR CONTENT OvO
@grandmashark6443
@grandmashark6443 Жыл бұрын
Can you analyze how this chess game would affect the story? (Like how the knight is probably ei who killed Signora (pawn) and how zhongli (rook) would kill the other rook iykwIm)
@Greyshi
@Greyshi Жыл бұрын
I'm very interested in that too, because it implies that (unless the Fatui stall to save one of their own) Ei gonna die...
@GhostEmblem
@GhostEmblem Жыл бұрын
Or what if Ei hadn't killed Signora and white had made a different move.
@Asm0sday
@Asm0sday Жыл бұрын
@@Greyshi ei died? Yeah no,she is literally a warrior,even without gnosis,she clap all fatui
@Greyshi
@Greyshi Жыл бұрын
​@@Asm0sday The most valiant of warriors easily fall to the cunning schemes. Ei isn't infallible. She's not particularly clever or flexible. That's her weakness.
@phenny1057
@phenny1057 Жыл бұрын
Not very much likely to happen by Zhongli, since he has mentioned before that he has made a contract. The 1st one is obviously the contract he made with Signora which sets up the whole defend Liyue quests without the help of the adeptis. 2nd one is theorized to be a contract with Lumine, since when we ask Zhongli about our lost siblings whereabouts, he says something along the lines that he doesn't know and that he has a contract made which prevents him to spill any information. So I highly doubt that the Rook (Zhongli) will make any certain moves that has something to do with "killing" a fatui member for the chess game to progress. Zhongli (Rook) will most likely be the one setting up for the fatui to win. Hence, why in the video no matter what the rook does, it'll do more bad than good and put the Fatui at an advantage.
@AevyCh
@AevyCh Жыл бұрын
Sandrone/Marionette is one of the few Harbingers that does not wear a mask. This may imply that Sandrone is NOT the girl but the machine itself, and she is just a *living corpse* (doll/puppet) of someone's tragic loss (father daughter relationship?) The way Sandrone was shown highly implies that it's a puppeteer, and the way she is held closely resembles to that of a glove puppet. If this is true, then Sandrone's mask may be the girl itself
@Kureemy
@Kureemy Жыл бұрын
So… is she not gonna be playable and is gonna be a boss instead? Or is she gonna be like Raiden Ei and her puppet and Fischl and Oz?
@AevyCh
@AevyCh Жыл бұрын
@@Kureemy her design seems like a playable character, and if she does become playable, it's probably similar to Ei & Shogun. Roam around as the girl then her burst summons a ruin guard xD
@Kureemy
@Kureemy Жыл бұрын
@@AevyCh that sounds cool. It would be a shame if a character that has a good design were to not be playable.
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 Жыл бұрын
I would _love_ to play as a character who can summon a giant robot like that, and then you control the robot. Adding them to the wishlist.
@NoName-dx1no
@NoName-dx1no Жыл бұрын
@@AevyCh her design kinda reminds me of Clara from another Mihoyo game called Honkai stair rail only because of the robot thing this character is a young child who does not do any fighting but she is paired with a robot father who does the attacks for her
@bernardoserrano4439
@bernardoserrano4439 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about a line in the trailer, saying that the game does not end in mate. Is it possible that Pierro is saying that their “game” will continue even after they capture the king/the pieces/gnosis? For me, it solidifies the fact that this current chess game is NOT the fatui playing against celestia, but the fatui collecting the gnosis and fighting the other archons. Once they win this game, their fight continues and they need to fight celestia after this checkmate. So this might mean that yes, while the fatui will eventually win all gnosis, it’s still up in the air what happens with celestia
@harukinakamura6630
@harukinakamura6630 Жыл бұрын
Celestia is in a bit of a hole right now, they have 2 factions so far that are planning to destroy them. Specifically the Abyss order and the fatui. Though that does not mean the abyss order is teaming with the fatui. The fatui wants to destroy celestia only and rebuild the world, burn it down. The abyss order on the other hand wants to not only destroy celestia, but also the 7 nations, and wipe out humanity, and to see khaenri'ah in all it's glory rise up. Both have similar goals but different means to achieve it. That being said, snezhnaya is also included among the nations the abyss order intends to wipe out.
@junesmind7325
@junesmind7325 Жыл бұрын
My question is which side is Venti and Zhongli at? They're both the oldest so what are their plans? I mean, we know Zhongli has a contract with Tsaritsa. But what about Venti? Will he just let everything happen. Cuz we know from that one story quest that he can reach anywhere there's wind. So I'm very excited at how this will ay out. (I really really hope Venti does something.) The only one of the Archons who so far placed herself opposite Tsaritsa is Ei though that's more her personal feelings than anything else.
@captainvalourous6668
@captainvalourous6668 Жыл бұрын
Theory: From what I see, just like what you've said, the Fatui are winning against the Gods of Celestia but what if they were wrong? I mean what if in reality the Gods of Celestia are the ones who were actually winning by making the Tsaritsa and the Fatui think that they are winning the war and in reality the Gods are actually making a 𝗙𝗢𝗢𝗟 of them so that they can lure the Nation of Snezhnaya into Trap. 🧐
@glyphgraph8436
@glyphgraph8436 Жыл бұрын
That could be possible. Because we still don't really know if the sustainer of the heavenly principle is the only god from the Celestia team.. Like Phanes who have 4 shades, maybe Celestia have some too..
@regneva1957
@regneva1957 Жыл бұрын
well, we know that checkmate isnt the goal, so what is it?
@glyphgraph8436
@glyphgraph8436 Жыл бұрын
@@regneva1957 no idea.. maybe to lure the Second God who defeat Phanes out from Celestia? The one representing the chess pieces is definitely just the Archons & Fatui Harbingers while the board is Teyvat.. The one controlling the Archon pieces is still missing..
@zerefsunlimitedshipworks
@zerefsunlimitedshipworks Жыл бұрын
Just found a game that looks like this, but with the kings and queens swapped: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9WafKpz0c2afoU.html&ab_channel=thechesswebsite
@phenny1057
@phenny1057 Жыл бұрын
@@regneva1957 if not a checkmate, then there's 2 possibilities. 1 is to kill the kings. Safe to say that the black king piece is either the leader of the fatui or the cryo archon herself. By beating/killing them stops there over all progression. 2 is to completely kill the ones on Celestia's side. I.e the white pieces. Since the goal if not s checkmate could be a total kil spree. I prefer 1 because it kind of makes sense. Since it's safe to say we'll have to kill/fight the cryo archon when our traveler gets strong enough, but since it's an archon. I doubt that the Traveler can kill the cryo archon. So this MAY be the part we're we have to choose which will we take for our own life's sake. So my guess would be that instead of the cryo archon, we'll have to take down the whole fatui harbingers group or their leader to stop their plan. Including on hunting down the one that went missing with the electro gnosis, Scaramouche. Edit: misspelled a word lol.
@nabieladrian
@nabieladrian Жыл бұрын
Never in my life I would imagine a free gacha game would teach me infinite amount of real-life lore 😭😭😭
@oscarrickyh02
@oscarrickyh02 Жыл бұрын
Just for a slight critics to your content, i myself play chess and you can't really say that it's winning by looking at top engine move alone. Yes its winning but most chess positions can't be evaluated easily by a human as you know, computers will do calculations much better than human. Here is a better way to explain: If you look closely at the evaluation bar im pretty sure from that starting position of the video, computer is saying that black has an advantage of about -9. To address the elephant in the room what that means, each chess piece has value. Pawn has a value of 1, bishop and knight has 3 (objectively bishop always slightly valuable than knight but that's another discussion), rook has 5, and queen has 9. The evaluation is in negative meaning black has the advantage. Value being minus 9, meaning black has an advantage basically equivalent to having one more queen than white despite the material count is almost equal (chess is not always about material evaluation but also positional evaluation). To further prove how much dominating is black compared to white, i have tried to play this position myself, against a computer. Im playing as black and i used lichess computer lv 8 which is the highest level to play against me. For comparison i have never beaten lv 6 computer playing normal chess, but in this position against lv 8 computer i can win everytime as black. Of course im a human, and not that good as a chess player myself, playing sub-optimal moves as opposed to perfect chess you has showed your video but i could still beat it. It also proves that you dont even need to play perfectly and there are so many ways for black to win that position
@oscarrickyh02
@oscarrickyh02 Жыл бұрын
@Peanut Butter everyone can just put a chess position to a chess engine and say "black is winning". All im saying is this video can get alot more instructive than that. Instead of just following engine best line you can just try out moves that are more "human" with a reasonable plan and black is still better. My point is there are alot more ways to win in this position that are easier to understand as a human than just plug it into a computer and follow the best moves
@rbt-0007
@rbt-0007 Жыл бұрын
@@oscarrickyh02 Yes that is clear for sure. The video describes the most optimal moves black can play, and that implies less optimal moves can still achieve the win like you said.
@beliondil6942
@beliondil6942 Жыл бұрын
well another criticism which questions the entire video is that the board in the trailer keeps changing ex. at 0:27-0:30 you can see that a pawn is on D7 this pawn disappear after
@h.4315
@h.4315 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure that Hoyoverse probably even looked into the meaning of the chessboard and the placement on the pieces when designing the trailer. Could you look into the board state prior to the White Knights capture of the black pawn? Is it possible that the prior board state could show that sacrificing Signora was the correct move and that trying to save the black pawn will result in black's defeat?
@jakwashere981
@jakwashere981 Жыл бұрын
If you watch the Genshin Trailer closely, there should be a black pawn between the Rook and the Knight that ate the pawn where the moth lands at 0:30.. but at 0:40, the pawn vanished.. Don't know if it has any symbolic meaning though.. probably just an error in editing..
@TheDhanaMC
@TheDhanaMC Жыл бұрын
@@jakwashere981 maybe the missing black pawn is Scaramouche?
@dotkiarika1026
@dotkiarika1026 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDhanaMC Scaramouche should be one of the black pawns that is close to promoting
@TheDhanaMC
@TheDhanaMC Жыл бұрын
@@dotkiarika1026 the c6 black pawn? It isn't that close to promoting, or is it? I know nothing about chess, beside the pieces' move X'D
@phenny1057
@phenny1057 Жыл бұрын
@@dotkiarika1026 When you say that, it made me think that Scaramouche is F3 Black Pawn, but I disagree. He's most likely to be D4 Black Pawn, since there's nothing blocking D4 from getting promoted. It also aligns with the story so far, since Scaramouche LEFT the Fatui l with the electro gnosis and to even add more facts to it. In one of Childe's voiceline to traveler, he mentions something about him keeping an eye on Scaramouche, since he is the most sus and has the electro gnosis with him and technically left off on his own. Childe, himself even said we'll most likely encounter him. My only question to this theory is that since Traveler has electro powers, is it safe to assume that the one that'll stop D4 Scaramouche from promoting is actually F3, pawn, Traveler? It's a hypothesis but a very high possibility, giving that even Childe says we'll eventually encounter him. And since Aether's clothes design is mostly black, which could possibly resemble the black pawn, and Lumine being white dominant in her color clothes design resembling a white pawn. Safe to say that Aether will be blocked by whoever the horse resembles is. Most likely one of the fatui members in Genshin's recent leak about who these new fatui members are. And the only way Aether is getting pass them is if the Fatui's plans gets interrupted and is forced to let Aether get away alive. Just like in Inazuma, since we were saved by Kazuha when Ei tried to kill Aether from behind. So yeaaaaah. My prediction is that Aether is definitely going to be in a life threatening situation once he gets into Sumeru, and hopefully we'll get some intel about what Scaramouche is upto and what he plans to do with the gnosis.
@bloody4558
@bloody4558 Жыл бұрын
Here's one thing I think people here are forgetting. There is one statement in that video that changes things around and make the situation completely unpredictable. "This game doesn't end with a checkmate" This is extremely important, because it has multiple implications. 1- It means that the Fatui can't lose because the fall of their king, Tsaritsa, will not impede their plans 2- It means that the white king which represents celestia cannot be defeated even in a checkmate position. Showing that the Fatui know full well that tactics are not enough to beat Celestia even if they do drive them to a corner. 3- it also shows that the harbingers are realizing that there is another factor at play. An unknown player or army that could completely overthrow any result for that game. Which implies that the Fatui are cautious towards either the Abyss Order, the Traveler, or both( but most possibly the Abyss for now). 4- It may also mean that this battle in specific will not end any war and is just one single step towards victory Another important point to notice is that Pierro may also be implying that he does not care about what happens to their leader Tsaritsa. And this may create a divide in the future between the Fatui members that are actually loyal to her, such as Tartaglia and many field agents( some other Harbingers possibly, but we don't know all of their motivations, only Childe's), and those that only joined out of self interest.
@TheEgalisator
@TheEgalisator Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that this is an in-universe chessboard based entirely around what the harbingers actually know. Of course they'd be winning. It's their abstract representation of their plan to win. There's a lot to see here though, like that the kings are very close together and the black queen has to get very aggressive now.
@KitnaMW
@KitnaMW Жыл бұрын
The positions on the board are an almost exact copy of Kasparov vs Deep Blue match 1 in 1996, except kings are swapped with queens.
@alport1331
@alport1331 Жыл бұрын
For me, the "chess pieces" are more of a symbolic meaning rather than being played as literal chess pieces, or a game of chess in that manner. Pierro mentioned that "in this war, not a single pawn may be spared; because in this chessboard, checkmate is not where the game ends" is already a telltale that the win condition is different from a standard chess game. So maybe the game end conditions are met if all pawns are removed from the game through all necessary means. And by that, Signora being a 'pawn' served as a necessary sacrifice in the grand scheme of things. Also, there are few instances that there is a black pawn beside the Gnosis Rook and then suddenly vanished after the white knight made its move. Coincidence or oversight on Hoyo's part? Or was it to symbolize Scaramouche? This trailer leave us so many questions.
@ShadowX5452Gaming
@ShadowX5452Gaming Жыл бұрын
But what troubles me is something else entirely. When they take an Archon's gnosis, the chess piece isn't actually removed from the board. Losing a gnosis doesn't mean that the Archon lost. We can clearly see in the video that there are some white pieces off the board, I guess some of them are the Archons who died: Makoto is probably the other white Knight that's not on the board since the one on the board is Ei who killed Signora. The bishop might be the God of the Wood, the former Sumeru Archon who died (did he really die, though? Is he the giant tree that Dottore's going to burn down as per Collei's premonition? A tree that contains the Gnosis that Kusanali doesn't actually owns?). The other Rook could be the former and deceased Hydro Archon that was substituted by the God of Justice. There's one elements that is recurrent among the Archons: They are all paired with someone important to the who is already dead. Think about it: Makoto and Ei, Zhongli and Guizhong, Venti and the bard during the revolution in Old Mondstadt, Kusanali and the God of the Wood, The God of Justice (the current Hydro Archon) and the former one. I guess the Tsaritsa also lost someone she loved in Khaenri'ah. She's the only one who can understand Pierro's pain since he's from Khaenri'ah and he lost everything and anyone he's ever cared about and she completely changed after the cataclysm, losing all her love for her people. I suppose Murata is going to have someone close to her who died in the past. Now, there are also two white pawns off the board and two more pawns and a bishop that are nowhere to be seen. Who are they? Also, the Queen is Barbatos, the Rook is Morax, the Knight is the Shogun, the King might not even be any of the Archons (Celestia itself perhaps? I don't think it's the Primordial God because Pierro wants to go back to the "Old World", which seems to me that he's talking about the pre-Celestia era, when Enkanomiya was above the ground and Celestia hadn't arrived yet). Who are the pawns? I could believe that Kusanali might be a pawn, maybe a promoted pawn, but who are the other ones? Now, let's try this again from a completely different point of view: ON THE BOARD we have: King/Celestia, Queen/Barbatos, Rook/Morax, Knight/Ei (the one who has always been the most Archon of the two twins since she actively defended Inazuma). We have 4 pawns of which 2 are Kusanali and the God of Justice (the current Hydro Archon) who are just recent substitute Archons. Two pawns are of unknown identity. OFF THE BOARD and nowhere to be seen, we have a Knight and a Bishop which are the former Hydro Archon and the God of Wood (Dendro Archon), the ones who where supposed to have the gnosis, the original Archons. One of the pawns is Makoto, the original Archon who wasn't actually very Archon-like, a placeholder for Ei until she was actually ready to be an Archon. We don't know who the other Bishop and three more pawns are. Now, do we really believe the Tsaritsa and Murata are still alive? On the web, Murata's whereabouts are unknown and everything is told in past tense. We know nothing at all except for what Venti told Vanessa. The Tsaritsa might not be dead dead but she might be so dead inside because of what or who she lost that she's not even considered part of the chess game anymore. There you have the Rook and the Bishop who are off the board, and two more pawns are going to be whoever is taking their place. And, yes, even though the Fatui are the black pieces, I think the Tsaritsa is still part of the white side of the game because she's still an Archon. There's just one single white pawn that is unaccounted for. I could think it's the traveller but I don't really believe he's supposed to be on that board in the first place. If the traveller twins are on the board, I think (this is very twisted in my mind) that the one we command is a black piece while the one that works with the Abyss is a white piece. Why? We try to help the Archons against the Fatui, but in the end we always indirectly help them obtain the Gnosis. Signora took Venti's Gnosis when he was tired and further depleted of his powers after he helped with Dvalin and she took the Gnosis right in front of us. We tried to stop Childe from taking Morax's Gnosis but in the end we were fighting the wrong Fatui and Signora did everything behind our backs, even using us to convince Morax into giving her the Gnosis. We got trapped by Scaramouche and Yae Miko had to give him the Gnosis to save us. It's not like we've been any help at all to the Archons... The twin traveller, on the other hand, acts as a God/Goddess for the Abyss order, the ruler of the former nation of Khaenri'ah, so I feel the white piece is more fitting... Sorry for the university thesis I just wrote XD
@sixth3706
@sixth3706 Жыл бұрын
The king is the electro
@sixth3706
@sixth3706 Жыл бұрын
The knight could be the Pyro or Cryo
@ShadowX5452Gaming
@ShadowX5452Gaming Жыл бұрын
@@sixth3706 that theory doesn't make sense anymore because in the latest video we see the white knight on the board defeating a black pawn on which Signora's flame moth lands on, which means that the white knight is the Electro Archon who just killed Signora, just a black pawn on the chessboard. I remember seeing the chess pieces theory where, if you know that the Rook is Geo and the Queen is Anemo, you can define the other Archons. That theory didn't make sense in the first place because the main goal of chessboard is to take the enemy's King, ending the game as a consequence. So the King is the most important and valuable piece on the board and the Raiden Shogun is hardly the most important Archon among all of them. If anything, that should have been Morax, the oldest and original Archon. Also, if the Shogun were the King, the Fatui already took her Gnosis, so the game would have ended already. The King is not one of the Archons at all...
@dotkiarika1026
@dotkiarika1026 Жыл бұрын
One mistake I have been seeing a lot is about the sides of the board. The bottom side is not the black side, it's actually the *white* side. We know this because the captured black pieces appear right next to It on the preview.
@trantung674
@trantung674 Жыл бұрын
i hope someday we'll see a cutscene at the final battle between the fatui and the celestia, meanwhile, a mysterious chessboard automatically moves itself, with each chessman down represents a fallen chara, and at the end of the game, the last pawn(traveller), will have to decide which king to kill
@Asm0sday
@Asm0sday Жыл бұрын
Eh,From venti unused voice line for pyro archon (available when natlan release only) venti asked traveler to protect him because pyro archon gave traveler her power and he heard about it,that could mean pyro archon might give traveler the gnosis as well consider the fact that pyro gnosis is the last one they need. So those fatui must fight traveler which has literally all element and power from pyro archon ,fatui definitely not winning this ,only if traveler some reason join fatui side and give it
@Asm0sday
@Asm0sday Жыл бұрын
And don't forget that we know literally nothing about celestial god,if they have ability to grant vision what else they can do? We don't know crap about celestial god power yet theories about it is too early because you know. mihoyo love plot twist,they gonna make it that celestial already know about their plan and just watching them,there no way over 4 years in teyvat time and celestial don't notice something wrong
@truthseeker199009
@truthseeker199009 Жыл бұрын
Traveler has a good reason to join any side which can unite him with his sibling
@nbs3846
@nbs3846 Жыл бұрын
Now that we know that the fatui are winning and what the chess means. I wonder how everything will play out. Specially with the archons and the gnosis
@seraph1690
@seraph1690 Жыл бұрын
their "queen" gonna kill our "knight" D:
@LittleDevilAkuma
@LittleDevilAkuma Жыл бұрын
​@@seraph1690 Venti going on another killing spree
@fernandosiahaan906
@fernandosiahaan906 Жыл бұрын
The players in this teyvat game of chess is literally only 3, Celestia,Tsaritsa and Princess abyss lumine, the others is just pawns
@zerefsunlimitedshipworks
@zerefsunlimitedshipworks Жыл бұрын
Just found a game that looks like this, but with the kings and queens swapped: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9WafKpz0c2afoU.html&ab_channel=thechesswebsite
@nbs3846
@nbs3846 Жыл бұрын
@@fernandosiahaan906 the players, but the pieces are the gnosis, and the pawn was signora
@internetghost469
@internetghost469 Жыл бұрын
What if every time a pawn makes it to the other side for a promotion….it’s actually a futui getting a gnosis?
@ashaide
@ashaide Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I knew those pieces weren't arranged haphazardly. And your... animated voice earlier in the live reaction for the reveal was... :3
@nealeverett7195
@nealeverett7195 Жыл бұрын
It’s difficult to say the Fatui are playing a normal game of chess in regards to the story because they’ve stolen two archon gnoses for themselves (not how chess works) and the electro gnoses is on the loose (also not how chess works). There are now nine harbingers but only seven black pieces on this board, and the harbingers all work for the Tsaritsa who has the cryo, geo, and anemo gnosis. There are too many black pieces missing for this game to line up to the actual game’s story.
@phenny1057
@phenny1057 Жыл бұрын
Ikr! But I think we can make a hypothesis out of this information that Mihoyo has given us. That or we'll have to observe even deeper to get a clearer understanding on which each pieces resembles to despite not having enough pieces to make sense out of it. Knowing that Mihoyo sure loves messing with our heads with their already complicated puzzles in-game.
@kamicokrolock
@kamicokrolock Жыл бұрын
Not that this is a theory but I couldn't help but think that the Fatui are playing chess while the traveler, a new variable to their plans, is playing 3D chess because, are we, as the traveler, siding with Celestia? or are we siding with the people of Teyvat?
@louisdead6761
@louisdead6761 Жыл бұрын
"Unless they horribly blunder trying to save their horse" That actually might be relevant. The electro gnosis is the horse, and scara currently has it. What if they goof up horribly by trying to get the gnosis back from him
@phenny1057
@phenny1057 Жыл бұрын
HOL UP- You're unto something! But then that won't align with Childe's voice line in-where he says that we, the traveler, will encounter him again. So it's most likely the fatui would care less about the gnosis that Scaramouche has, since we are unironically are helping the fatui by facing Scaramouche ourselves.
@louisdead6761
@louisdead6761 Жыл бұрын
@@phenny1057 His voice line makes me worry about death flags for Childe... One thing i cant stop thinking about is when dottore mentioned Scaramouche mastering the ability of the divine, this potentially means Scara will have close to full archon power along with the fact he is ranked higher in the fatui then Childe is. Childes odds in this fight wouldn't be very good, we the traveler would have to step in to fight Scaramouche to save Childe. Either Childe dies from this encounter or potentially is horribly injured. One question I have that would potentially add another layer to this is, can a gnosis be destroyed? If so what happens if they destroy it mid fight, i feel like that would have similar repercussions to a lesser god dying.
@rachelisverycoo
@rachelisverycoo Жыл бұрын
I love that the Chess board actually has representation instead of just being random. Hoyoverse's attention to detail with it is amazing.
@dersylvio3088
@dersylvio3088 Жыл бұрын
My personal prediction is this: We have Scaramouche in Sumeru, who is hunted by Childe. At the same time one of Dottores clones is experimenting with something in Sumeru as well. It is possible that Dottore is controling Scaramouche to perform his experiment in blasphemy and that the fatui boss of sumeru will be Scaramouche and Dottore at the same time, with the Traveler freeing Scara from mindcontrol and him reluctantly siding with Traveler for Revenge. Than Childe shows up, agreeing to let Scara leave alive in exchange for the Gnosis. As for the other Harbingers: Sandrone is fatui boss in Fontaine, who is better suited to pull strings behind a maskerade than a puppeteer? Capitano is fatui boss in Natlan, like a general marching his army into the nation of war. Pierro or Columbina is the final fatui boss when we walk into the Cryo Archons palace. Arlecchino is basicly like Raven from Honkai making her very likely to be playable. Even same VA as far as i know. Pantalone could see the Traveler as an important piece in his pesonal agenda, siding with him for profit. As for Pulcinella ... no idea and Signora is confirmed dead. And we know that having a harbinger as boss and them be playable does not cancel each other out.
@beposfather
@beposfather Жыл бұрын
what if pierro AND columbina would be the bosses in snezhnaya 😳 1 and 3 would be scary
@untitledplaces
@untitledplaces Жыл бұрын
It is indeed very surprising and h expected that they revealed all of the harbingers in one vids. But the most important thing is that about the boards. It could mean something. The moves and stuff yknow. Besides, the harbingers themselves seems to have a very interesting backstory.
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz Жыл бұрын
But Aster you forgot something, this chess game does not end with a Checkmate or simply killing the king. For this Chess game to end you have to wipe the board completely off your opponent's pieces. That means no enemies survive. Also this match that's shown in the teaser might not be considerung Celestia at all By that i mean winning this game (the one Piero's playing) will only give them the right to play against Celestia (gathering of all the Gnosis) Also
@seraph1690
@seraph1690 Жыл бұрын
no game no life?
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz Жыл бұрын
@@seraph1690 yes.... What?
@LittleDevilAkuma
@LittleDevilAkuma Жыл бұрын
​@@Ren_rz Isekai Anime where every conflict gets resolved in a game of any sorts. You can basically get anything if you win a game. Two main characters are gamers that decided to win with every race and challenge god because why not. Every race is represented by a chess piece, ironically the game those gamers had to win to enter the world was online chess.
@Ren_rz
@Ren_rz Жыл бұрын
@@LittleDevilAkuma i know what it is I'm asking what do you mean by that
@wolfstormwizard424
@wolfstormwizard424 Жыл бұрын
Celestia flips the board
@nhattran3166
@nhattran3166 Жыл бұрын
The video said that "Checkmate is not where the game ends", so maybe there will be some plot twists, i guess
@benfrank9622
@benfrank9622 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that the burning tree vision from one of the sumeru characters is caused by that Giant fricking Ruin Guard.
@derpietertul1674
@derpietertul1674 Жыл бұрын
Aster showing me how a chess board reveals a ton of lore how the Fatui are winning Me who doesn’t know how to play chess and just thought the harbingers looked cool: yes 👍
@TheDeluche
@TheDeluche Жыл бұрын
This setup is strikingly very similar (other than the king and queens switching places) to the match with Deep Blue vs. Kasparov 1996 game 1 where this was the first time an AI has defeated a reigning world chess champion. This was because Kasparov changed his more aggressive style of playing with a "wait and see" approach which was taken advantage of by Deep Blue. In Winter Night’s Lazzo, we can also see the knight moving on it's own to take out the pawn (Signora) which can further imply that white is the AI (Deep Blue/representation of Celestia). This match also consisted of 6 games meaning that the game didn't really end at checkmate and although the AI won the first game, Kasparov ended up winning the 1996 match. This along with the 1997 rematch was also considered the "Chess Battle for Humanity".
@krys9463
@krys9463 Жыл бұрын
As bad as I would feel for the characters I feel like theres a chance that the Traveler is going to fail spectacularly when they get to Sumeru. Not only losing another gnosis but there could also be a lot of damage done and quests we get afterwards could be us just trying to clean up the aftermath.
@beposfather
@beposfather Жыл бұрын
i want main characters to die fr. that'll make the game fun than just every villain losing, let's get in the honkai side of things.
@sirwillll
@sirwillll Жыл бұрын
That's why Aster is my favorite genshin theorist because she is really, really dedicated in making them. Imagine doing this hours after the video dropped. And going to school right after! All the best.
@hermansjoholm3494
@hermansjoholm3494 Жыл бұрын
The electro gnosis is a knight/horse, since it's the piece that took out the pawn representing la signora.
@spiderninja_1
@spiderninja_1 Жыл бұрын
I’m ready to come back to this video every few months to see if the events of the chess board line up with the story!
@LadyOMyth
@LadyOMyth Жыл бұрын
This was interesting!!! I’d love to see a video of who you think each harbinger we saw was in accordance to their Italian theater counterparts. We know some of them for sure but not all. You might say in your reaction, but I haven’t gotten to see that yet. I’ll be sure to do that soon!
@Xelonir
@Xelonir Жыл бұрын
Someone in the Teyvat Historya's stream pointed out that the white knight is moved by a Kryo force .... so it looks like Pierro is playing against the Tsaritsa. Not really a fair game if the Tsaritsa plays for the Celestia side.
@jonathanwilson5355
@jonathanwilson5355 Жыл бұрын
I noticed something while looking through some things, that I thought I’d just write here to get my thoughts out. So this game of chess seems to be ongoing because there are multiple pieces on the board that are not present, and can be seen outside of the playing field. But that leaves the question of, how did these pieces fit into the story? We already have a pretty solid idea about one of the knights being the electro archon, so what about the 2 bishops? I’m guessing these would both be the dendro & Cryo archons since they both possess divine knowledge of sorts, but both seem to be off the board alongside the second rook, ( most likely the hydro archon,) and the 2nd knight, ( most likely the pyro archon, ) which brings up a lot of questions, especially since both sides are missing the same pieces, bar the pawn (signora) that was just taken. So if these pieces have supposedly been captured already, does that mean that the next 3 archons gnosis are already taken? Or will they be put on the board as they’re retrieved? Also, Zhongli’s gnosis has a black cover, while Venti’s is white. Does this mean that not all the archons are on the same side? And if that’s the case, then who do the other pieces represent? We know that some of the black pawns are harbingers, but who are the white pawns? It honestly makes me wonder if this game of chess is actually going to follow the typical rules of the game, or maybe there’s something we’re missing here? IDK, I just wanted to dump my thoughts out. I know technically that this is more of a chess analysis than a lore analysis, but I can’t help but think of the lore implications here.
@ChillwithAster
@ChillwithAster Жыл бұрын
CORRECTION: THE A2 PAWN HAS TO BE ON A3. I USED THE WRONG TIMESTAMP.
@Kaltsit-
@Kaltsit- Жыл бұрын
We do have to remember that not all pieces are known who they represent and that there are more people outside of just those pieces.
@lizzzzzzzzzzz6095
@lizzzzzzzzzzz6095 Жыл бұрын
Im curious to know if the abyss and traveller fits in on this board. The abyss has a similiar goal to the fatui and indirectly helped them in the seizing of ventis gnosis. And although Traveller is opposing the fatuis plan i wouldnt be surprised if after they discover the truth of celestia they turn against celestia. they could be on either side.
@deathwingthedestroyer3632
@deathwingthedestroyer3632 Жыл бұрын
Personally I don’t think they’re on the board to begin with since who would’ve foresaw an otherworldly entity make their presence known. But even if they were on the chess board they could ruin everything since they can use the powers of all chess pieces and even use them simultaneously and even then we have to acknowledge that they’re true powers are temporarily sealed in which they could end the war altogether.
@sakutaro3musik486
@sakutaro3musik486 Жыл бұрын
the white horse is ei´s gnosis, and it falls next, scaramuche is in danger
@openendings
@openendings Жыл бұрын
Was not expecting this video and am amazed at how much I needed this 😍
@nini3470
@nini3470 Жыл бұрын
okay, totally unrelated but i think ik what the seed in the chasm will be for!! like, after the tree burns (the tree of knowledge??) that shrivelled seed will probably be used to plant another one bcuz sumeru's probably confusing knowledge with wisdom and they'll learn that the hard way so it's like they're renewing themselves as a nation!! it can also be used just as a sign of hope, still i'm pretty sure that the seed will be used to plant a new tree
@HydraneousHadokenPent-Striker
@HydraneousHadokenPent-Striker Жыл бұрын
The interesting thing here is that the person playing white is likely the Tsaritsa herself
@aden9160
@aden9160 Жыл бұрын
Another thing to consider is Celestia's ability to simply "over-write" things, as the Fatui could be mistaken in the value of their strategy meaning anything when faced with potentially greater and currently unseen higher powers. Celestia might be in a Chess dimension higher than the Fatui can currently conceive.
@Zarozian
@Zarozian Жыл бұрын
Game doesn't end when checkmate. It continues until all the pieces are off the board.
@eligor-the-wartak
@eligor-the-wartak Жыл бұрын
Yesss the video I've been waiting for!
@marshiechu2276
@marshiechu2276 Жыл бұрын
AHAHAH I AM EARLY this is so awesome i've been watiting for this after they released the trailer
@lpcurio
@lpcurio Жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in seeing the whole game played out where each move is a metaphor for a plot point. Also just found you, great videos
@Crystalwizardtrue
@Crystalwizardtrue Жыл бұрын
Isnt it odd that the fatui arent counting the abyss faction in these pieces? the abyss is probably as big in scope as they are
@blackdeathpest1616
@blackdeathpest1616 Жыл бұрын
I think you forgot something very important "In this war not even a single pawn may be spared.. Because on this chessboard "checkmate" is not where the game ends" so you dont play to beat the king but you need to play to defeat EVERY Single CHESSPIECE on the other side..
@thedusterbin.819
@thedusterbin.819 Жыл бұрын
oh my god, I didn’t realize how quick aster can make a video about this
@floreliss
@floreliss Жыл бұрын
just a cool detail is that Pierro is playing the chess game AGAINST the Tsaritsa, he moves his piece with his hand and the Tsaritsa moves the white horsey with her cryo magic. :)
@rinokuocassava
@rinokuocassava Жыл бұрын
I think the reason Venti is the Queen chess piece is because of swirl and its properties of being able to use electro, cryo, and hydro in a way similarly to the way the Queen can move like the Bishop and Rook
@melaniabladeofmiquella
@melaniabladeofmiquella Жыл бұрын
Hey Aster not sure whether you covered this before but I learnt today about the KPG Extinction, and the K stands for Kried (chalk), made me wonder about the calamity being an extinction event and Golds role? Idk :)
@kikioffe2698
@kikioffe2698 Жыл бұрын
Mihoyo even sayd somewhere "We finished the story and its for you to play it " meaning they are already set they know what will happen in snehznaya and what will happen at the end of the game
@arcturus4939
@arcturus4939 Жыл бұрын
Just droppin by to say Pantalone is daddy material. And its a breath of fresh air to have Pulcinella, an old man that isnt a regular NPC
@anshuman2952
@anshuman2952 Жыл бұрын
To the One Piece fans out there, his Japanese VA is the VA of brook...
@regneva1957
@regneva1957 Жыл бұрын
@@anshuman2952 I don't see the reference AT ALL. This guy sounds cool and mysterious and brook just sounds goofy
@anshuman2952
@anshuman2952 Жыл бұрын
@@regneva1957 It is true but they do share the same VA. Well sharing the VA doesn't mean they will have the same personality. Ayaka and Yamato share the same VA too, doesn't mean they are similar r8?
@gempooh1769
@gempooh1769 Жыл бұрын
It seemed to me that the white piece was controlled by a frost like effect so I assumed he was probably playing against the tsaritsa for some reason, the analogy of Signora's fly landing on the taken piece though was great and did make me think of Celestia's role
@romanriabych8812
@romanriabych8812 Жыл бұрын
For now we only know three archons, which in the table are figures, if the black pawn is reppresenting Signora then the white knight, which is a figure, is Raiden Shogun. What i am trying to say is that maybe the 4 white pawns are representing the other 4 archons, if that wasnt true that would mean that the other archons are dead because they are not in the chessboard, I'm thinking that there's a possibility that white pawns may turn into figures( maybe when their gnosis is stolen, which is a contradiction because they would supposedly became weaker but they become figures so stronger) so maybe there are pieces that haven't entered the game yet in both sides, if that's the case the match is far gone to be ended. I also quote sure about the identity of archon chess representation, if you see elemental slimes, there are like one caracteristic to a couple of slimes, example: geo and cryo slimes have "helmets" we know that Zhongli represent a rook in the same way Tsaritsa, dendro and electro have on the top of their "head" this little things Raiden is a Knight so can be Kusanali, three are remaining Venti is the Queen so he is unique, by the exclusion bishops are Pyro and Hydro Archon their slimes have little horns. In the conclusion if my theory about the missing chess pieces can be true, that makes the next move more unpredictable or the appearance of a new piece will block the black queen idk. Sorry for my English I'm still learning :) It's possible that i wrote something dumb but this scheme works in my mind.
@juanmarine6566
@juanmarine6566 Жыл бұрын
Also in the video a horse ate the pawn that was representing la Signora, so probably Raidens gnosis is one of the horses, I'm not 100% sure what that means but it's interesting, now we have seen 4 of the 6 types of chest pieces, pawn like the harbingers, rook(morax), horse(Baal), queen(venti)
@whiteclover1643
@whiteclover1643 Жыл бұрын
Inb4, it's just Pierro and the Tsaritsa casually playing chess games with their pieces, which just coincidentally hinted the knight being the electro gnosis. He made the comment about the "checkmate isn't the end" because the actual Fatui vs Celestia war doesn't end in checkmate, unlike a normal game of chess that they're currently playing.
@jap882
@jap882 Жыл бұрын
I think it has onnections for the movements of archons/hatbinger/celestia pieces as well as the twins.
@bluestrider2562
@bluestrider2562 Жыл бұрын
It's a great analysis. The only problems i foresee is that, if the black is the Fatui, then does that also includes the Abyss working with them? Because then having a game mimic reality only holds true if theres only two opposing sides on the board. If the Abyss is separate, and or outside forces like the Traveler decides to remain independent or chooses opposition to the Fatui, the board is then less representative .
@jeymernunez9672
@jeymernunez9672 Жыл бұрын
If the king goes d4 black can possibly blunder and the king(probably paimon) or queen(venti) are going to be the key pieces that can guide the pawn(probably traveller) to be promoted and change the outcome, but seeing the board it's a small chance but not hopeless
@Kissuuuu
@Kissuuuu Жыл бұрын
Actually, it's from Garry Kasparov vs Deep Blue on 1996, First Game
@eros.111
@eros.111 Жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS SM
@nkosiezikalala5267
@nkosiezikalala5267 Жыл бұрын
so i saw a theory saying the chill wind movement of the white knight in the trailer was done by the Tsaritsa who was actually present for The Fair Lady's burial and must've been playing chess with the Jester. Chess pieces can carry many symbolisms about range, power, value and sacrifice but chess as a game is best known for mind games, meta games and intellectual classes. Gnosis' are modeled after chess pieces and the Tsaritsa had 2 and was converging to force mate on black.
@astral_aon
@astral_aon Жыл бұрын
One problem that even if considered still fatui in lead:in the trailer they said on this chessboard checkmate if not when the game ends
@donpackundo6953
@donpackundo6953 Жыл бұрын
Come to think of it, the White Knight could be the Electro Archon capturing a pawn(Signora) and the defenseless knight could be scaramouche knowing that he currently have the electro gnosis and is cut-off(MIA) from the fatui.
@Kastor774
@Kastor774 Жыл бұрын
Probably someone else mentioned it, but having the queens protected and the kings in the center makes little sense. If you consider them backwards, the board state actually matches Kasparov v. Deep Blue.
@Kastor774
@Kastor774 Жыл бұрын
Addendum: but why would Venti be the King? Remember, the most important piece is actually the weakest.
@indilanuit772
@indilanuit772 Жыл бұрын
but there's a quote that is really important here- "checkmate is not where the game ends" So probbaly they think that getting that checkmate is only the very first step to achieve their goal, and they are bound to win that game, the difficult part is what comes next owo
@Idras74
@Idras74 Жыл бұрын
The chessboard is actually a real game played by Kasparov VS Deep Blue, except the King and Queen pieces have all been switched. It's not clear if their roles in the game rules are swapped or something else. But in that game Black (Fatui) resigns ~6 moves later due to constant pressure by White (Celestia). Though when Pierro says "Checkmate is not the end" it seems to be implying that the Fatui will fight to the bitter end despite losing their "King" (A queen piece likely representing the Tsaritsa), as Black was actually incredibly close to checkmating White themselves.
@ryu246
@ryu246 Жыл бұрын
AS THEY SHOUDLDD, periodtt /j all jokes aside, I hope they'll kick celestia's ass, they have my full support.
@Asm0sday
@Asm0sday Жыл бұрын
What if celestial are good? If we don't know who evil why support side that might be worst
@ryu246
@ryu246 Жыл бұрын
@@Asm0sday they destroyed 3, THREE nations that we know of, so far. are you sure about that?
@user-kt4vn8le5p
@user-kt4vn8le5p Жыл бұрын
I like the insinuation that the harbingers are only pawns in the power scale
@mattpailden259
@mattpailden259 Жыл бұрын
I think the chessboard is only representing the pieces of the two sides have. As the fatui are on the move, so is the other side. And unlike chess, there are outside factors that could affect the envisioned "checkmate" and tip the favor on either side
@lordoftheeggz5258
@lordoftheeggz5258 Жыл бұрын
So is the Traveler like some sort of Pawn or smt? Like as he goes further across the Board Or kinda like How he goes further in his journey regaining his Powers ones he reaches the end of the board he gets a " promotion" or well can get his original powers back
@generalginyu8594
@generalginyu8594 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there is any meaning to the misplay white makes in the beginning: They take the Pawn with the Knight, while the Rook would do so with delivering check, allowing the Queen to take the Knight and enter the game.
@VirtualLoyalist06
@VirtualLoyalist06 Жыл бұрын
It might imply that Raiden (knight) taking out Signora is a mustake that will have comsequences later on.
@chemdinospace4773
@chemdinospace4773 Жыл бұрын
Funny how we have exactly seven pieces on white's side, and only three of them are currently not pawns, and the gnoses of the archons we know. The rest of the four pawns will eventually become other pieces that represent the remaining archons' gnoses
@bluefenneris9009
@bluefenneris9009 Жыл бұрын
the queen is free to move but perpetually trapped at the same time wonder if this foreshadows anything about venti
@aqua3331
@aqua3331 Жыл бұрын
Wait you could be right. I theorize that Venti, as the god of freedom, is pretty much free to do whatever but also not free at all in the sense that he's prevented by Celestia from saying anything too important, especially if it has to do with Celestia itself or the fall of Khaenri'ah. He's often the one dropping vital parts of information but then laughing it off, changing the subject, or some other way to not provide any details on his info and also probably to avoid punishment for saying something he's not supposed to.
@theassente
@theassente Жыл бұрын
THEY ARE WINNING BECAUSE THEY'RE HOT. ARLECCHINO PLEASE OWN ME, QUEEN 👑. GENSHIN SENTI IS REAL. BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK. Edit: Also, it's a really cool analysis on chess, but scara messed up the board and became a third party or something after stealing Ei's gnosis. And this isn't even considering the abyss order. It's like chess but with their own rules.
@SoulStorms
@SoulStorms Жыл бұрын
Nice code switch
@ChillwithAster
@ChillwithAster Жыл бұрын
Yi
@captainvalourous6668
@captainvalourous6668 Жыл бұрын
Man the Thirst in this fandom is just.....unbelievable 🤣
@ayamii37
@ayamii37 Жыл бұрын
"Genshin senti", lmao
@Jazzatic2011
@Jazzatic2011 Жыл бұрын
Newer to chess. Can you explain the rook swap and where that leads? Cause in game application that could make sense if a character swapped where they once stood. Like scaramouche for example. If we believe they went rogue and change sides from antagonistic to the traveller to being companions to them... then it could be like that chess move you showed.
@ayatomisubi5156
@ayatomisubi5156 Жыл бұрын
i love chess and i love how genshin is using it as well, im not the most smartest at chess but i am somewhat decent or do i dare say good, and this analysis is very interesting and good inside
@litmusprime2074
@litmusprime2074 Жыл бұрын
Thought it was going to be story related, but I'll this take too! (Pls I wanna hear your thoughts on them not loosing into the story part of it all--)
@elyxialuv
@elyxialuv Жыл бұрын
When I saw this teaser this morning I started freaking out-
@baguettegamer5313
@baguettegamer5313 Жыл бұрын
side note i think the starting position has a black pawn missing on e7
@jayyyyy1486
@jayyyyy1486 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if magnus can do a reaction video regarding the positioning of the pieces. 😄
@aunaunta5781
@aunaunta5781 Жыл бұрын
the black pawn at d7(Scaramouche) disappeared from the board game. this is the cause why the white knight at d6(Raiden Shogun) can capturing the black pawn at f7(Signora).
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