In reality, Allan Clarke was the principal lead singer of the Hollies, not Graham Nash.
@jenniferholden9397 Жыл бұрын
Why do these sites never get their facts right, Allan Clarke was the lead singer, and lead big head.
@MrDaiseymay Жыл бұрын
@@jenniferholden9397 Thats not how I remember it. It was quite a surprise, reading that Graham Nash (The lead Singer) had left for America, where he was invited to join Crosbie and Stills. to form a Trio, later adding neil Young.. From then on Nash's school chum Allan Clarke, . who often co -wrote music and harmonised with NaSH, TOOK OVER THE LEAD VOCALS.
@jenniferholden9397 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDaiseymay I’d love to hear what Allan Clarke would say about him not being the lead singer. I don’t think anyone ever told him.
@LordFlashheart.11 Жыл бұрын
Allan Clarke was the lead singer of the Hollies. He was great singer in his time, they also had a fantastic drummer, Bobby Elliott and lead guitarist, Tony Hicks.
@Bruce15485 Жыл бұрын
Agree ! However, you could not get a better support singer songwriter than Graham Nash and Tony Hicks. The lead vocal tracks that Graham Nash sang were brilliant. My favourite Hollies song is 'King Midas In Reverse'. Graham Nash's vocals and song writing is all over this song !
@barryhughes1612 Жыл бұрын
The Hollies were a great band and made some ground breaking records.
@spankywzl Жыл бұрын
It is very important to note that this entire debacle could have been avoided, had the writer with NME not been a complete tool with the way he asked the question. I'm certain George would have given a more gregarious answer had the question been phrased as, "I see The Hollies are covering one of your compositions. How do you feel about their interpretation of your song, 'If I Needed someone'?" Instead, the question was phrased as if George wrote the song FOR The Hollies to sing, and Harrison was, quite correctly, upset about having it phrased that way. Everything that follows is just bruised egos from both parties.
@michaelwalsh564 Жыл бұрын
"Everything that follows is just bruised egos from both parties." That's not true. Harrison didn't stop with saying that he didn't write the song for the Hollies. He made a point of saying he didn't care for their interpretation of the song or really, for them as a group.
@alansmith1989 Жыл бұрын
My namesake was indeed a `tool` he caused George to walk out of the Brian Epstine held party for journalists at the music papers to hear the `Sgt Pepper` album for the first time. When `Within you-Without You` came on Smith made a very uncomplimentary comment which George heard and stormed out! Record Mirror's Peter Jones divulged this to me when aiding me with chart research some years back.
@trep53 Жыл бұрын
I was never a follower of the Hollies or Graham Nash for that matter. Bands like the Hollies need to pay strict homage to the Beatles for opening up the music world to creat a lot of room for many different acts to prosper. There were quite a few bands receiving play time that didn’t earn it. Granted the Hollies had their fair share of hits but over several iterations of members. George Harrison stood on his own two feet
@Harrisonianne Жыл бұрын
trep23 I love the Beatles. but your statement isn't exactly the best. I mean, The Hollies... not them, they hadn't been recognized even after The Beatles' fame. There is an interview in which they told how they had to cancel some shows related to immigration issues from English bands after Beatlemania craze. Really The Hollies had a hard time hitting the US. I don't get much your point bc they really worked hard to gain a place for their own.
@trep53 Жыл бұрын
@@Harrisonianne Well, no doubt the Hollies put all they had into their music and the many hits they produced (I had to look them up) did well on the charts. Bands that get big at the beginning of a musical era as arguably the Beatles did created a musical “space” for other new bands to fill like the Hollywood created Monkeys. Producers creating an act to fill a new genre is an old show business tactic. Not saying that applies to the Hollies. If the Hollies and George Harrison had bad blood that’s too bad for both of them. Artists thrive on emotion and feelings and are constantly scrutinized that must get old for them.
@brianjones3191 Жыл бұрын
The interviewer caused the fuss by suggesting George wrote it for the Hollies. And George is entitled to his opinions. We all have opinions that would cause awkwardness if said out loud - but are not judged or castigated over having critical thoughts - because we all pretend no one has such thoughts. Humans are weird.
@vicvega3614 Жыл бұрын
Yeah if the interviewer wouldve asked the question differently this feud would've never happened, the media was and is always trying to stir up trouble, sick bastards. Just watched old interviews of the Beatles in America in the summer of 66 i wanted to punch the interviewers
@tattyshoesshigure5731 Жыл бұрын
Although I’ve never actually bought any Hollies records, I always enjoyed hearing their great songs on the radio or TV. They seemed to me to be a superior pop group to many during their 1960’s heyday, so I’m quite surprised that George got uptight about their cover of his song… I would have thought he’d have felt flattered by it! As for his comment likening them to ‘session men’ - to me that is a backhanded compliment, as session men have to be extremely competent, knowledgeable musicians!
@MrDaiseymay Жыл бұрын
I think George Harrison had a chip on his shoulder about many people, including his Beatle pals.He often came accross as naive and infantile. Always moaning about his life as a Beatle.
@alansmith1989 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDaiseymay He had a right go at Tony Meehan at some 1968 Record Production `do`. Though, in that case I think he might have had some justification. Meehan was known in the industry for his treatment of those he felt `inferior` as he did when the Beatles had auditioned for Decca in Jan 62.
@vicvega3614 Жыл бұрын
Wasnt Jimmy Page a session man? Thats all anyone has to say
@joefish609112 күн бұрын
What about the Los Angeles session musicians known as the Wrecking Crew, they were the sound of LA (and its groups) in the sixties.
@seanclark2531 Жыл бұрын
I'll gladly take the Hollies over most current pop acts today..
@otterman62 Жыл бұрын
came across this because of my interest in the Beatles , i was intrigued by Mike needing someone to voice this, and having done some research i wanted to wish Mike all the best, especially as there is so much feedback on what a good bloke he is! Top man.
@geoffreyalder7275 Жыл бұрын
Graham Nash, lead singer with The Hollies....really ??.....I think you'll find it was Alan Clarke
@farrellmcnulty909 Жыл бұрын
When I fuirst got into Crosby Stills and Nash, I did a double take when I read Nash was in the Hollies. I thought "he's a folkie, what the hell is he doing in the Hollies?"😆😆😆😆
@johnpearson4899 Жыл бұрын
@@farrellmcnulty909 Same here but, He definitely was.
@ivanostry3359 Жыл бұрын
Nash was a founding member of the Hollies.
@johnpearson4899 Жыл бұрын
@@ivanostry3359 Yep 👍
@1952mrpdc Жыл бұрын
It was Allan Clarke. People who place these videos on YT do not do their research properly. I am glad you agree with me. PC. 27. 11. 2022.
@rmp7400 Жыл бұрын
To me, Mr. G. sounded like he was having a moment of displaced anger ...there were certainly real issues going on with him from the Lennon McCartney team... and... between him and his wife, Pattie.😢 I really liked Hollies music...but Harrison was my very favorite Beatle.
@jcoulter43 Жыл бұрын
Great video Mike. Very nice narration. It always amazes me the wealth of knowledge you bring to your channel and videos. I always learn something new with each video. God bless and rock on 👍😎🎸
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
I hope this was interesting 😕
@greenslider Жыл бұрын
Enjoying the content Mike. Loving the guest storyteller idea. Each brings their own atmosphere. Jackanory for grown ups!
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
That's what I'm aiming for brother 🙏
@maccuadra8454 Жыл бұрын
On July 1, 1966, the Hollies would release their album "Would You Believe?", which a song would reach number 3, being remembered with great difficulty, but The Beatles would release "Revolver" on August 5, 1966, which was not has said, innovative, advanced, nothing like it before, the future of music, as beautiful as it is complex, the effects, ambient sounds, loops, distorted voices, backwards guitars, lysergic lyrics, unusual instruments, harmonized guitars, rhythms out of R&B, the word rock appears by itself, the album was number 1 on all charts and considered one of the 5 best albums in music history, etc., etc., etc. The Beatles are and will be the highest peak of popular music indisputably.
@os5484 Жыл бұрын
Thats its the truth. The non scratchable olymp.
@CliffMcAulay Жыл бұрын
Great content. A good story well told. When everyone has forgotten the personalities and hype of these pop groups, all we will be left with is the music. And that is the only important thing. I am grateful to be able to listen to these wonderful recordings of the past.
@rosscampbell1173 Жыл бұрын
I think “Think for yourself” is better than If I Needed Someone.
@vanshankguitars Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of this story! I really like this type of content Mike!
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
Thank buddy 🙏
@tacobreather Жыл бұрын
Both groups are legendary, period!
@PooNinja Жыл бұрын
All the drama helps no one. Pride and ego have caused may problems for many people. Just be nice, it’s more rewarding than being negative in every way.
@PooNinja Жыл бұрын
Great narration 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@patrickf.4440 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Artists especially are quite given to hyperbole. They and professional wrestlers. You only should expect it from of those two groups. But can you guess which one? Pat, in Chicago
@thestormconsort Жыл бұрын
2 minutes in - Graham Nash wasn't the lead singer - the lead singer was Allan Clarke
@estenray6685 Жыл бұрын
While the Hollies were certainly not Beatles level creatives they were a great pop band easily on the level or better than say other bands of their era such as Herman’s Hermits. With hits such as Carrie Anne, Bus Stop, Pay You Back With Intrest and Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress they were better than most pop of that era. Thanks for the great Video Mike! And the excellent voice over Phil!❤😊
@imkluu Жыл бұрын
The Hollies were probably second only to the Beatles when it came to Pop rock.
@lynby6231 Жыл бұрын
They sang mostly covers, yes they were good musicians but back then, George Harrison didn’t get many of his songs onto Beatles albums and it must have felt like the Hollies were riding to glory on his back. I think it’s quite understandable how much he was peeved. I watched a documentary once about the Hollies and they used to go to a record shop to listen to the latest imports from America for their next release, this is how they found the song “He ain’t heavy”, when you compare that with the Beatles spending hours in the studio perfecting their songs, you know that the Hollies might grace the top 10 at the same time as the Beatles but the Beatles wrote their own songs.
@tracythomas8838 Жыл бұрын
@@lynby6231 Great comment regarding George and His feeling of the situation. Beatles were, are and always will be the best band. I like the Hollies but they could never touch The Beatles. I just wanted to say that The Beatles (in the beginning) use to do the same thing. They would go to the record store and find songs they felt had that certain something to cover. Saying that, they weren’t haunting the songs in the charts. Obviously they did do some chart hits but they liked to look for songs they felt had it but were overlooked.
@georgestevens1502 Жыл бұрын
The way the writer asked the question that George wrote the song "for the Hollies" is probably what set him off. And he's not wrong about the instrumental abilities of the Hollies. Graham Nash can only strum chords on an acoustic guitar and never plays electric guitar. With C,S,N & Y, during their electric set he would still just strum chords on an acoustic guitar, which no one could hear anyway. There aren't any stand out guitar lines or keyboard lines from the Hollies, even from the few hits they had. Graham is a very good songwriter. Our House and Teach Your Children are great songs. But, for live concerts he really only contributed vocals, not any memorable work with stringed instruments. I never have known the names of any of the other Hollies, and only knew Graham as a Hollie from learning it when C,S&N put out the first album. George was caustic, but he wasn't wrong about this.
@christocello7731 Жыл бұрын
The Hollies have alyways been a very tight unit of three singers and some good if not excellent instrumentalists. The fact that Graham didn't even play an electric guitar (with only a few exceptions) was a part of the band's concept. The drummer Bobby Elliott was and is a technically better drummer than Ringo ever was. Listen for example to "Mickey's monkey", "Don't run and hide", even "He ain't heavy". Tony Hicks was versatile guitar player who also knew how to play an effective 12-String ("Look through any window"). A second guitar was not essentially necessary for the Hollies. If the Hollies were given as many time in the studio as the Beatles were, they probably would have equalled them partially. Describing the group as "session men" bears some truth, although one can take it as a compliment as well. The Hollies didn't work out their songs in the studio but they came well prepared and seldom needed more than two or three takes. Only the Hollies' songwriting was mostly inferior to the Beatles, because the most famous hits of the Hollies like "Bus Stop", "He ain't heavy", "Im alive", "Here I go again", "I can't let go", "Look through any window", "Just one look", "Sorry Suzanne", even their last one "The air that I breathe" had been written by other artists.
@georgestevens1502 Жыл бұрын
@@christocello7731 Nash doesn't/didn't play electric guitar with CSN or CSNY either. Perhaps he carried the "concept" too far. Or, maybe he's not a live player. He has written good songs. He's just not a live guitar player.
@vicvega3614 Жыл бұрын
@@christocello7731 couldve equaled the Beatles?? Yea sure dude, no offense but the Hollies are not even in the same galaxy as the Beatles
@timotc50 Жыл бұрын
I'm a big listener to the Beatles, and I also enjoy the Hollies music. Given the information in this video, I wonder if there was still some animosity between George & Graham when his new group (CSN) auditioned for Apple Records in 1968. Interesting thought
@Harrisonianne Жыл бұрын
And How did George react when George Martin signed trio America as The Beatles follow-up. (? (Being practically a mime of CSN) . Maybe these situations made both Lennon and Harrison to look back and change their minds about Hollies imminent influence in popular music too. Lennon did... and Harrison years later I know from the friendship between Dhani Harrison and Paul Hicks. wink wink
@vicvega3614 Жыл бұрын
Yes George tried to throw him off the apple rooftop
@cherriberri7161 Жыл бұрын
Never been a fan of Nash and I was happy when he tootled looed the Hollies it really improved their sound without him!
@lornestein7248 Жыл бұрын
Wrong - Terry Sylvester was a fellow Liverpudlian and was quite friendly with George. Terry said that George gave him a big hug after he scored his 1st number hit "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" with the Hollies.
@BillySBC Жыл бұрын
The interviewer set George up by suggesting he simply wrote the song for The Hollies, as if to say the Hollies made it popular and not him.
@desertwind306 Жыл бұрын
I feel bad if these two groups were really at odds because they were both great. I adored them both but actually liked the style of the Hollies a little better. May they both go down in history as two of the greatest bands ever.
@alansmith1989 Жыл бұрын
"I Can't Let Go" actually topped the `New Musical Express` charts for a couple of weeks.
@noodlehat3250 Жыл бұрын
Love George's music but he always came across as a bit of a whiner.
@islandhorizonvideos8230 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize how much of a Whiner since watching Get BACK.
@bronzesnake7004 Жыл бұрын
You're such an inspiration Mike!! A real never surrender warrior!! God Bless you brother, you're absolutely awesome!! Jack ~'()'~
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
That's so kind my brother ❤️
@michaelbartley9499 Жыл бұрын
As a child of the 60's and loving both the beatles & the Hollies, I'm just now leaning of this riff of this song that George wrote & the Hollies recorded. A song that I truely feel was one of the Hollies best singles, other than another one of my favorites, "Look Through Any Window". I only say this because when I discovered it in the late seventies (roughly being in my late teens) it immediately caught my minds "music sound" appreciation, and when learning that George Harrison had written it, I thought "how great" that the Hollies had done a song written by one of the members of the Beatles and that member bering George Harrison. The one Beatle that I also feel was the one unsunge member of the group. In listining to what had transpired with George's immediate dismissal and some what anger of the Hollies version, I can't help but fell that with George, it came out of frustration that his own work with in the Beatle's at that time, was mostly brushed off. If he had no talent, how was it he did quite well after the Beatle's split. I think it a blessing in disguise that at least George's song got the recognition from another great group of the time, because it seems it wasn't one of Rubber Soul's most known songs, altho it was a good one. In the end, I hope that George thinks "well done" at least in the time it was at least recorded by a fellow group of the era, wonder how the Stones would have performed it had they done it. Michael
@rationalrabbit797 Жыл бұрын
I very much like "If I Needed Someone". It's a great song IMHO. I never heard the Hollies version before today (on Spotify), and I have to say that I much prefer the Beatles version - it's way better. Actually I think I fully agree with George Harrison's assessment. The Hollie's version sounds to me like one of those that would appear on records sold cheaply in supermarkets sung by unknown people to cash in on the popularity of current chart hits at a very low price. Whilst I can see why the drumming on the Hollies version might be said to be better owing to it being more complex and probably harder to play, it sounds completely inappropriate for the song and detracts from it rather than complementing it. I'm with Ringo on this one. Starr always played as a member of a group seeking to blend in with the music not as a soloist trying to draw attention to himself. A great team player. I should add that I do very much like both the Hollies, and Graham Nash with the Hollies, Crosby Stills and Nash and as a solo artist. But not in this case. Their version of this great Beatles song is a dud.
@iancheckley3549 Жыл бұрын
Love these littel snipits of rock and roll history. Keep them coming Mike and hope your keeping well .
@KRW628 Жыл бұрын
The Hollies version is not as good. Roger McGuinn's (George's arrangement of the song was his response to the Byrd's sound) was not as good. George's version is one of the best tracks on Rubber Soul. I play an electric 12-string today because of George. One of the first songs iI learned to play on it was If I Needed Someone. (In 1966, I saw both the Hollies and the Beatles)
@MusicTherapyLaz Жыл бұрын
Love Mike's videos... really missing him! 💔🕊✌️🕯
@CowmanUK Жыл бұрын
After all the groups doing Lennon/McCartney covers you'd think George would've appreciated a group as famous and respected as The Hollies releasing a single of his song. McCartney once said there's no greater compliment. But I suppose George felt differently. Shame, really, and I think The Hollies reaction was very adult and fair, considering that it must've hurt them.
@imkluu Жыл бұрын
I Think it is that the song was something really personal to George and he was upset that copy write owners gave it out to the Hollies against his wishes, and they didn't didn't really have the right sentiment or heart that he did for it. This video also doesn't tell you about what members of the Hollies had said about the Beatles in past interviews, about how the Hollies music was more polished, less skiffle and amateurish. The more middle class London and Manchester area bands looked down on the Liverpool low class bands in the early 60's and this held over even after many had proven themselves like the Beatles to be world class song writers and musicians. The Hollies were not really wanting to cover a Beatles song, and George did not want his song covered. IT was the management and reocord companies that caused it to happen. So there was a clash.
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
I think it was for Patti and he got angry
@cliveedwards2958 Жыл бұрын
George had a mouth on him..love The Beatles but a bit of gratitude wouldnt have gone a miss
@valeriepickens2533 Жыл бұрын
It might have something to do with sogn rights. The Beatles lost the song rights to all their music, because of their first contract. Meaning that this song as well as " While my guitar gently weeps, ( and many others) ended up being owned by Michael Jackson. Now, if that doesn't get you a little upset,...then you're not a real musician!
@joesalemi2414 Жыл бұрын
Look, he didn’t like the way the Hollies arranged and performed the song.
@brendanaschinski-bp9dj4 ай бұрын
Even if I just started liking George Harrison it doesn't mean that's my favorite singer will always be Allan Clarke of The Hollies nobody can match his beautiful voice
@salanzaldi4551 Жыл бұрын
If I wrote a song that a group liked enough to want to record it, I would have felt flattered.
@patrickmorgan4006 Жыл бұрын
If you were George Harrison and the other group was a rival, and your band also recorded the song at about the same time, you might feel differently.
@@farrellmcnulty909 Which are all well and good, but George should have been given a chance to show his work to the world before another band tried to step in and score a hit with it. Lennon/McCartney always took priority, and to George, his track space on their records was valuable real estate to showcase his talents as a writer. I’m certain that’s what he was mad about, and if The Hollies had waited to let George release his song with his band first, he probably would have been fine and wouldn’t have lashed out.
@farrellmcnulty909 Жыл бұрын
@@BillBaronas I should watch the clip again. I didn't catch the bit in which the Hollies' version was released before Rubber Soul. Thanks for your response and the "heads-up".
@BillBaronas Жыл бұрын
@@farrellmcnulty909 No worries at all. The Hollies’ single was released on the same day as Rubber Soul. I just feel like it was in bad form. At the same time, in fairness, it may have been out of The Hollies’ hands, though. It may have been a Parlophone/EMI decision.
@AleStolt Жыл бұрын
I never understod this discussion about -If I needed someone-, To me both groups were good to listen to and I did so. It was two different bands with about the same type of music 1960s Brit POP.
@drphelps9017 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that the Beatles gave a reel of Sgt. Peppers to Graham Nash before it was released. I don't think that 'fued' was quite as terrible as this video might have us think.
@BillBaronas Жыл бұрын
You’re probably right. In his autobiography, Graham Nash writes that George and he quickly patched things up and became pretty good friends. I would imagine it was all water under the bridge by Pepper’s release.
@mrindecisive100 Жыл бұрын
Graham Nash wasn't lead singer of the Hollies, that was Allan Clarke. Graham Nash was rhythm guitar/vocals. The only reason 'none of the Beatles' catalogue appeared in the top 10' while 'I Can't Let Go' was spending three weeks at #2 was because the Beatles were in between single releases ('Day Tripper/We Can Work It Out' and 'Paperback Writer'). Maybe this was a conscious move by the Hollies to avoid any further conflict, in which they would have inevitably come off second best. As for Graham Nash's comment saying that the Hollies were 'holding down places on the same top ten as the Beatles'. He was right in one sense of course, but the Beatles would have generally been at #1 and the Hollies somewhere lower down in the top ten so his comment didn't really stand up to close scrutiny. Very interesting video, but more care should have been taken with the pictures used of the Hollies as a couple of them were of a later lineup (after Graham Nash had left).
@vicvega3614 Жыл бұрын
Comparing the Beatles and the Hollies is like putting a chihuahua up against a rott weiler, its not even close
@RC32Smiths01 Жыл бұрын
The Hollies are probably my favorite band of the 60s, besides the almighty Beatles of course. Interesting insight!
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
Me too I'm the biggest beatles fan
@peternewman3487 Жыл бұрын
And please include the Beach Boys.
@farrellmcnulty909 Жыл бұрын
@@Chinaguitarsceptic Get in line, dude, there's a lot of us.
@UAL320 Жыл бұрын
To quote Mike Love….”Don’t f*ck with the formula!”….that’s what the Hollies were all about. The Beatles never really stuck to a formula….
@farrellmcnulty909 Жыл бұрын
I don't think they ever had a formula. Each album sounded different than the other, and even the songs which were on the same album sounded different than the other - for example "Run For Your Life" on the same SIDE as "In my life" - much less the same ALBUM. Good luck to marketing executives out there, you can't peg these guys for anything.
@PhillipAlcock Жыл бұрын
Saw the Hollies live when I was a teenager. Amazing sound. You got live what you heard on recordings. Just listened to the Beatles and the Hollies versions of If I Needed Someone and the production quality of the Beatles’ version is far better. The Hollies’s vocals are amazing but there’s something about the recording of the instruments…
@drhirise1 Жыл бұрын
It was interesting to see this video, and I went to listen to the Hollies version of that song. It sounded to me like a very close imitation of the original. Very well done with a little variation. It wasn't all that good of a song, but it was really interesting to hear their version, and they executed it well.
@precbass Жыл бұрын
I've listened to it too and youre right,it is a close imitation,even down to the use of a 12 string guitar.However the bass line is different and Bernie Calvert has tried to imitate McCartneys,but not quite nailing it.Hollies harmonies are sublime as usual,and Bobby Elliots drumming is much more intricate that Ringo's.
@markbrown7103 Жыл бұрын
The Beatles always had a problem with other people saying they stole their music if I needed someone was one of my favorite songs I never really did like the holidays. The only songs I liked was long, cool woman and sometimes there and then I breathe. May be a couple of more, but that’s about it, seems like the Supremes tried to sue George Harrison remind Sweet Lord over the song he’s so fine how do you think people were just jealous of the Beatles remind part of it I’ve been a fan of yours since 1964 at the ripe old age of 11 and still loving them today, and nothing will ever change my mind Thanks for sharing your video.👍🏼💖🎸😎☮️😁
@friedrich1957 Жыл бұрын
He wrote it for his wife. The question was framed as writing it for the hollies. Given he had so much competition within his own band getting any of his songs on an album, totally underst understand him bristling.
@adamodeo9320 Жыл бұрын
The Hollies were great!!!!
@Larrymh07 Жыл бұрын
Weird. I remember reading in 1983 that Graham Nash wanted to collaborate with George and that he felt their careers paralleled.
@holydiver7312 күн бұрын
I guess George was one for carrying a grudge as when Nash bailed on The Hollies to form Crosby Stills and Nash, they actually auditioned for The Beatles Apple Corp for a record deal……and got rejected. As a songwriter myself, I would be honoured if someone felt one of my songs was good enough to compel them to do a cover of it. No matter how bad or good I thought it was, I would have just taken the royalties and shut my gob.
@peterschmidt9942 Жыл бұрын
I'd never heard this one before Mike. The Hollies weren't played much here in Australia as I grew up in the 70's and it was only their Long Cool Woman and Magic Carpet Ride songs that got any air play. But The Beatles were all around on the TV and radio even in the 70's. For that, I'm not the biggest fan of the Hollies and it was only a couple years ago I downloaded their catalogue to have a listen. For me I could get away with just a greatest hits I reckon as not a lot popped out at me. But it's a bit of a shame George pretty much buried them in the media. Their response was fair. I suppose George seen a lot of what he'd class as Beatles imitators and bunched them all together. There's a heap of musical feuds around like: - Lemmy's review of The Darkness first album (Why Justin Hawkins hated Lemmy) - Ritchie Blackmore about Joe Satriani when he filled in before Steve Morse (talk about getting burnt by a guy you styled your playing after). I suppose the old saying "Never meet your idols" rings true.
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
I listened to the hollies version and didn't think it was as good
@peterschmidt9942 Жыл бұрын
@@Chinaguitarsceptic I hadn't heard it either, so jumped over to YT to have a listen to it. It was OK, I didn't mind it. But it definitely had a different vibe about it compared to the original.
@josegomez2190 Жыл бұрын
peter schmidt magic carpet ride is not the hollies they are steping wolf
@peterschmidt9942 Жыл бұрын
@@josegomez2190 Right you are. Must have had a brain fart this day! As I said, didn't really grow up listening to any Hollies (or Steppenwolf for that matter other than Born To Be Wild).
@vicvega3614 Жыл бұрын
@@josegomez2190 magic carpet ride was steppenwolf
@jonglewongle3438 Жыл бұрын
The totality of what George Harrison was saying might be that " Youse couldn't come up with your own composition worth putting to vinyl so youse nick one of ours, one of mine, in fact ", bearing in mind both the simultaneous-ness of it and that it was a ' premier ' feature, being a single.
@tomcurtis8520 Жыл бұрын
The Hollies were a great 60s group that I always liked and looked forward to hearing their every release, they were/are brilliant, like lots of artists they had ups and ups but also the odd down , the Hollies cover of Harrisons If I needed Someone, flopped, but they went on to further great deserved success, long live the sixties !
@lancraft Жыл бұрын
Hollies were a decent band, but the Beatles version of the song blows the Hollies version out of the water. No contest.
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
I agree
@lancep4164 Жыл бұрын
True
@jamestilby2223 Жыл бұрын
I THOUGHT THE SONG WAS ALRIGHT JUST A DIFFRENT VERSION WELL DONE LADS !!!
@handybunny Жыл бұрын
I just listened to the Hollies' version for the first time. What was George's problem? Their cover is quite nice, and really very true to The Beatles' version! George always griped that he wasn't taken as seriously as a song writer, yet part of knowing that you've "made it" as a composer is that others want to cover your stuff. Here a very established artist/band is covering his song and he trashes it? That's just wrong. Paul loves when people cover his stuff -- never heard him badmouth any of it. George was kind of a sour, bitter person at times.
@chaipup7045 Жыл бұрын
Harrison always seemed to be a bit spikey.
@fredthejunkman Жыл бұрын
George didn't suffer fools...not saying the Hollies were fools. George had a very dry sense of humor bordering on sarcastic at times.
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
Yes he was but he was very smart
@TRamone01 Жыл бұрын
George wrote it for Patti and the Beatles do it better. Graham can give his own money to charity.
@chickenhappy3607 Жыл бұрын
Rubber Soul IMO is the real masterpiece of the Beatles
@IMeMineWho Жыл бұрын
For me it is Help and Revolver but to me the mid-period is my favorite period as well.
@chickenhappy3607 Жыл бұрын
@@IMeMineWho Even George Martin said Rubber Soul is his favorite
@stanparsley9186 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks Mike
@kamillgran9408 Жыл бұрын
I don’t know who the fudge the Hollies are, but I certainly know everything the Beatles did as band and as solo artists. So I guess that settles that!
@Mr.56Goldtop Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see that you are doing OK Michael! Hopefully you are able to play your instruments.still. Keep up the good fight my friend!! 👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸
@peterwyattАй бұрын
Alan & Graham and The Hollies were originally Ricky & Dane Young and the Fourtones
@duesenberger Жыл бұрын
Thx for this video. Great piece of information. Just listened to both versions of the song back-to-back on Spotify. And to me the Hollies version is nowhere near the Beatles version. And I agree to another post: The phrasing of the question to George Harrison was the real reason of George getting angry. It was his song. Had enough Beatles-song-writing-competition from Lennon/McCartney.😉
@chriskroll4166 Жыл бұрын
There was no feud between George and The Hollies. I was at George's house out in the country one day and two members of The Hollies came over and we all drank jasmine tea and listen to Pop records. So this is a falsehood. 😁
@drvee1983 Жыл бұрын
Now THAT sir, is a cool story and recollection.
@astragreen Жыл бұрын
Rubbish
@chriskroll4166 Жыл бұрын
@@astragreen Yes sir . U are that 🙋
@javiervelasegovia25225 ай бұрын
Very clear pronuntation. Thanks
@that70sschwinn Жыл бұрын
Very interesting story, I've heard Graham Nash compliment the Beatles on numerous occasions as a big musical influence. I just listened to the track for the first time and it sounded very Beatle-ish but maybe a bit over produced compared to the very clean straight forward Beatle version. George is my favorite Beatle and should have been flattered, instead, appeared insecure with his negative feedback. Maybe the Hollies version gave him flashbacks of how Paul wanted the song to be recorded 🙄🎸
@twpsy634 Жыл бұрын
George could be petulant about many things.
@The_Soundrops Жыл бұрын
Very interesting bits and pieces, needles and pins :) I love The Hollies almost as much as The Beatles. I always considered The Hollies cover of If I Needed Someone a failure, though, very disappointing as for the arrangement and the execution. George needn't have voiced his opinion in such a harsh way, probably, but I have to agree with him on this one. It was nice to hear a reviewer praise Bobby Elliot's drumming. Such a great tone and imaginative fills (I don't mean the song in question but his overall contributions). But I would never deem Hollies' harmonies superior to The Beatles'. I like the Beatles colour more, it's all subjective of course, but The Hollies would often fall slightly out of tune, especially Tony Hicks on the lows, but neither Allan nor Graham were super precise as well. And - to my ears - they tended to overdo the three-part trick, which The Beatles never did. One more thing, it's a bit of a stretch to call If I Needed Someone "a love song for Patti", as the lyrics are clearly addressed to some OTHER girl, who the singer kind of rejects for Patti's sake.
@clannad99germany70 Жыл бұрын
The Hollies were a great band, a little too soft, but I liked them even like the Beatles in that time, my number 2, beside the Rolling Stones, 4 was The Who, also Move and Yardbirds. Graham Nash wrote great songs like Listen to me, On a carousel or Marrakesh Express, which he actually wrote for The Hollies, but after his depature, it was one of the first songs of C,S & N.
@chickey333 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video... as a "bloke" growing up on the west side of the pond in the 60's I envisioned the British Invasion as an attack of one great sounding group after another closing in from the east. It's a pity to hear that there was any animosity among the invaders at the time but it didn't appear to effect the sound or popularity thankfully.
@monsieurmitosis Жыл бұрын
It’s the robot at the start and end that needs re-voicing. “China Guitar Septic”…LOL
@jasongress8764 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny the Hollies said they didn’t want to ride the Beatles coattails yet release one of their songs as a single. And really, in ‘66, the Beatles were blowing up the idea of what rock music could be, what were the Hollies doing?
@KabobHope Жыл бұрын
Paragraphing is everything.
@johnmiller5679 Жыл бұрын
One of my problems with the Hollies was exactly what Nash said. He said if we have to wait for the right song then we will wait. The Beatles did not wait because they went out and wrote their own stuff while you wait for other artists to write stuff for you. George can say whatever he wants about your version of his song. And you can say whatever you want about the Beatles or George’s versions of one of your songs. Oh that’s right they never did one of your songs.
@rosaliecooper3707 Жыл бұрын
Hollie’s wrote a lot of their songs and the Hollie’s were better than the Beatles
@soglo2009 Жыл бұрын
@@rosaliecooper3707 Keep on dreaming
@keithnaylor19819 күн бұрын
It was a minor incident that’s all, but you naming Graham Nash as lead singer is a major incident!
@ashleyfearon4121 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, no nonsense factual summary of a difference of opinion between 2 bands. In essence, depending there’s probably no right or wrong answer. On a separate tangent, the continued zooming in and out sequences in the video made me feel a tad queasy.
@nielszindel11513 ай бұрын
Hmm Tony Hicks and George were happy neighbours for years. I think they were well over this feud. Delia Morris
@nrusso967 Жыл бұрын
Interesting how Graham Nash waited to do his biography/autobiography after George Harrison's death! The Hollies were very good! However, the Beatles are LEGENDS!!! Great musicians, songwriters & entertainers!!!! There is a huge difference between good and GREAT!!!
@jimmyjames2022 Жыл бұрын
Did not know this feud, despite being a young Beatles fan in the 60s. Either arrangement is ok to me, neither is outstanding, song is pretty good though. But I can see George's annoyance. George was already sore he didn't get more of a voice in the Beatles, then both Beatles' and Hollies' versions came out at the exact same time. Now he's personally overshadowed by both the "other" Beatles and the Hollies with one of the few songs he wrote and performed, confusing fans and music journalists.
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
You're right
@axelowell4084 Жыл бұрын
Listened to thousands of Videos Graham Nash is praising Beatles as the Band of all Bands. I think George overestimated Himmelfahrt, especially as a solo guitarist.
@christocello7731 Жыл бұрын
I suppose there was no good communicating between the groups producers and the groups. The Hollies obviously thought the Beatles' producer would have given the song exclusively to the Hollies - so they were more than surprised when Rubber Soul contained the same song they had recorded weeks before. In comparison both songs don't differ much from another, although "authenticity" is evidently on the Beatles' side.
@noonetime8478 Жыл бұрын
The Beatles is my top favourite band of the 60s. The Hollies is one of my favourites too, and they actually wrote some of my most treasured songs of all time. But learning that george and the hollies got into these kind of word exchange in the past over something is a bit dissapointing. Both were great groups and both fed so many families especially in my country were 60s music is very much alive and there re bands including mine that make a livelihood by covering these wonderful songs.
@alastairtopham5939 Жыл бұрын
I love the Hollies music and always have. Incredibly wrong that Harrison would criticise them like he did. The Hollies like the Beatles, had some fabulous hit records.
@samanthaenglish1675 Жыл бұрын
I’m a certified Beatle maniac, and I love the Hollies. In my opinion, George was having a “moment”/ hyper sensitive/angry/unappreciated/frustrated etc…. You see this in him, popping up randomly. Hey, he’s human(was). Ridiculous, the comments he made on the hollies version. As if it’s not at all the same song. He’s obviously irrational at that point. Oh well. 🤷♀️ I like that Nash didn’t kiss his ass. Bravo!
@Snakefinger1000 Жыл бұрын
I've never heard The Hollies' version until today but after hearing it I prefer The Beatles' version but I'm biased I've been a Beatles fan for 50 years.This supposed feud reminds me of the supposed feud between Jagger & Richards in the eighties both were created by the reporters who exaggerated comments that were made by the musicians involved.
@5756strat Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree, think its one of Harrison's best early compositions. I've just listed to both versions and there's really not to much difference. The Beatles version sounds warmer/fuller and yes, a bit more organic, but that might be the way both songs were posted/transferred to You Tube (and were recorded). The vocals on both versions are great but Nash's high harmonies on the Hollies version gives it a bit more cut through. Yes, Bobby Elliot is a superior drummer to Ringo and it comes through here although I like the tambourine on the original. Perhaps the biggest surprise and most noticeable difference between the two versions is the superior guitar sound of Harrison - I know he used a 12 string for this recording. Tony Hick's guitar sounds very tinny and thin, almost amateurish. Tony is a very good player too so I can only blame the Producer/engineers? Both are Parlophone recordings though and probably recorded in the same studio at Abbey Rd. Interesting!
@AngelaArnold-eu6tx5 ай бұрын
Allan Clarke is the lead singer of the Hollies bot Graham Nash
@MrBrynmair Жыл бұрын
George Harrison seems to have feuds with so many people. He seems to always be criticising someone or other and comes across as somewhat bitter.
@dimasbujursangkar8120 Жыл бұрын
Well, I do like the music of both groups (The Beatles and Hollies, and the music of their members), but on this case, and set aside about business point of view which is the cover version is legal & royalty comply, the fact that it was George Harrison's who wrote it and he personally created it for his own music/his own group (The Beatles) and not intended at all in the first place to wrote for other groups/music acts (on this case Hollies), I see George's commenting/reacting to a quality of a cover of his own song (whether the comment is like or dislike) is totally fine (no problem at all), it is his right to say any opinion. While on the other hand, i think the Hollies side is the one that should be (for this case) just accept every comments with ease (whether a like comments or dislike comments), no need to be "triggered". The main point is: "If you don't like an original artist/writer make bad/dislike opinions about your cover version of their work, go make and write your own music, don't do covers."
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
I listen to the hollies version and didn't like it
@grahampratchett8207 Жыл бұрын
It really does annoy me when people voice over comments that they really don't know what they are talking about. 1) Graham Nash wasn't the lead singer of The Hollies. It was Alan Clarke was. 2) When interviewed about this, you made about a Statement from Graham Nash. Graham Nash had already Left The Group. And moved to America, to start CROSBY, STILLS, NASH & YOUNG
@LG-kl3coАй бұрын
As time has passed, the comments of Mr Nash are irrelevant. He always vocalised at every opportunity whilst a member of The Hollies and then took his vocalisation across the pond to the states. We have a saying in the UK "could talk a glass eye to sleep" well it was a saying tailor made for him !
@leemaiorano5875 Жыл бұрын
Seems that George wasn’t the silent Beatle but the angry Beatle. Hope you’re doing well Mike. Take care brother.
@Chinaguitarsceptic Жыл бұрын
He was. I'm doing well brother 🙏
@IMeMineWho Жыл бұрын
Justifiably so much of the time.
@roygarramone71903 ай бұрын
He's 100% correct, people of stature criticizing other unnecessary are Jerks.
@davidgagniere2923 Жыл бұрын
The Hollies were great.
@johnfoster535 Жыл бұрын
...I just listened to the Hollies version for the first time... George was RIGHT !
@davidbarrett1487 Жыл бұрын
Hollies were a bloody good group, great musicians and vocalists, often surprising with different songs. The Beatles were great innovators too! No need for silly stuff.
@J.A.Hansen5 ай бұрын
I didn't know nothing about that story,and to be honest I 'm not a fan of the Hollies,but they has a few interesting songs that I liked.But after I heard what George said about their coverversion of》If I needed Someone,I listened to that version from the Hollies and please forgive me,but their version is...Well I agree with George ! Maybe his reaction was so harsh cause he wrotte that song for Patti B.and so he had special feeling about that song.However□But I also heard a story from Jimmy Page that George used to say to Jimmy》Jimmy the problem with Zep is,that they don't do enough ballads🙄😂However Jimmy took this critic to his heart and took one chord from Something and used it for Zeppelins》Rain Song😁Well Well ! (Rest in Peace George🕉Namaste🙏]
@drvee1983 Жыл бұрын
I like their version. It's " Beatlesque " but go figure. I agree with George, but for the time? Brit groups were in pretty tough competition. It's a complement to George they didn't do a Lennon/McCartney tune. Allot of groups and performers were at the time.
@MyshaM. Жыл бұрын
There are good reporters, and there are those who say "You gave your love song away", as you're about to go on stage. Having said that, Harrison is right in his criticism, even if worded a bit sharp due to the question. Listen at The Hollies on "Look Through Any Window", the song before and "I Can't Let Go", the song after. (If I got that right.) Then listen to their "If I needed Someone", if you can bear. It's like they suddenly realised it's a top-level song, but they are not. The song didn't fail because it was boycotted; it failed because it was inferior. Mind you, "inferior" at that level is still in the top 90%, but it still wasn't good enough. Considering they were advised against it, I can imagine they were unconsciously not really doing their best. In the end, there are bad reporters and there are those who say "You gave a feud-inspiring comment, yesterday. Do you maybe want to polish those words, before we publish?"
@quakers200 Жыл бұрын
Cover version might be a complement but then again could be kind of a slap in the face. The Hollie's had enough song writing talent not to need to cover a beetle's song.
@tablettwentytwo1750 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't I Can't Let Go a cover of Evie Sands original? More management sway, I daresay .... Quin
@jimmybonar2566 Жыл бұрын
George was rude with his comment and should have been more circumspect.. Years later he dissed Liam Gallagher of Oasis as well, and got a mouthful back from Noel Gallagher.
@lizdoyle7158 Жыл бұрын
George got it wrong it was just a song later on he recorded other people songs he should just have let it be
@Kevin-mx1vi Жыл бұрын
An older friend (now in his mid 70's) saw both bands back in the 60's, and I remember him telling me that The Hollies were better than The Beatles from a technical standpoint, their vocal harmonies being the best he'd ever witnessed, but he also said that The Beatles were the more exciting band by far. I would guess that this is what George was referring to when he said that The Hollies were like a session band, and maybe he felt their cover of his song didn't capture what he'd been trying to say when he wrote it ? Maybe it just illustrates two different approaches to making music ?
@AngelaArnold-eu6tx5 ай бұрын
Thank you Graham Nash but Allan Clarke is the lead singer of the Hollies and George Harrison was mean by making the smart ass remarke