"I wasn't the first, I haven't seen anything" - Garrett Schmitt

All those problems exist only in the book. So it’s not the movie lore that doesn’t add up, it’s the novel’s.

Scott stated that the FNaF Movie's lore doesn't corelate with the games nor the books, it's its own story.

The biggest mistake was when they called william appleton, william afton.....

"The Fnaf movie lore doesn't add up." Johny, do you have amnesia?

It could be that the “before Freddy’s” means before the missing children insident

"fnaf movie lore is confusing" - Johnnythenightguard me - "you would think that scott would learn from his mistakes...but then again it is fnaf after all 😔"

Did anyone notice that Cassidy is a boy in the fnaf movie

Cassidy was the only one that was kidnapped in the games known as “the one that you shouldn’t have killed. “ But in the movie, Garrett was the last one to be killed, and supposedly the most brutally because in the games, Cassidy says that he was tied to the back of William’s car then William drove around an empty parking lot

Was that the kidnapping of 1987!?!?

“ I was the first, I have seen everything” -withered chica

I doubt Vanessa is lying she genuinely wants to help Mike and I still don’t understand why she helped him and let the other security guards die she prolly has a crush on him idk

It's disturbing to know that garrets soul is in balloon boy☠️

On one hand, this lines up perfectly with the song.

The bite of 87 ... WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87

“The others are like animals, but I am very aware..” -Garret Schmidt

I think she meant before the original freddy’s establishment and garret was taken during fredbears which technically isn’t freddys

Bro really said: AAAUUUHHHHHH.. AAAUUUHHHHHH

It’s almost as confusing as the FnaF game lore

Well he could have been taken before Freddy's Pizzeria and been taken to Freddy's Diner instead which maybe is why we don't see the marionette or Garrett at the location because he isn't even there

By mid-80's, I think it normally means like 1985 and after mainly.

I think Scott said the book is kinda wrong and will be changed (I only know he said that about Doug in the book)

Me: *calmly pulls out my fnaf movie novel to do research*

Mr.cupcake+Bonnie=Complete Domination

1987- "IS THAT THE BITE OF 87?!"

10:03 - Missed opportunity to take him out of context. 😔

If he was kidnapped in 1987 wait WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87

Connection terminated. I’m sorry to interrupt you Elizabeth. If you even remember that name. But I’m afraid you’ve been misinformed. You are not here to receive a gift nor, have you been called here by the individual you assume. Although you have indeed been called. You have all been called here. Into a labyrinth of sounds and smells, misdirection and misfortune. A labyrinth with no exit, a maze with no prize. You don’t even realize that you are trapped. Your lust of blood has driven you in endless circles. Chasing the cries of children in some unseen chamber. Always seeming so near, yet somehow out of reach. But you will never find them, none of you will. This is where your story ends. And to you my brave volunteer, Who somehow found this job listing not intended for you, Although there was a way out planned for you, I have a feeling that’s not what you wanted. I have a feeling you are right where you want to be. I am remaining as well. I am near by. This place will not be remembered, And the memory of everything that started this. Can finally begin to fade away. As the agony of every tragedy should. And to you monsters trapped in the corridors. Be still and give up your spirits. They don’t belong to you. For most of you, I believe there is peace and perhaps more Waiting for you after the smoke clears. Although for one of you the darkest pit of hell has opened to swallow you whole. So don’t keep the devil waiting, old friend. My daughter, if you can hear me. I knew you would return as well. It’s in your nature to protect the innocent. I’m sorry that on that day you were shut out and left to die,no one was there to lift you up into their arms the way you lifted others into yours, and then, what became of you. I should have known you wouldn’t be content to disappear, not my daughter. I couldn’t save you then, so let me save you now. It’s time to rest - for you, and the those you have carried in your arms. This ends for all of us. End communication

Probably Garret was the first. Since the FNAF 2 Pizzaria is before FNAF 1 and Garret is supossed to be the Puppet, it makes sense. His soul was never found. Not in that place.

"Like zoinks scoob, these springlocks should've been decommissioned years ago!"

Not my brain. When i saw the report lady on the TV "micheal jackson???"

I know I'm late but by the news reporter wearing "mid-80s clothing", they could have meant that she is just wearing vintage clothing or something. Idk like matpat always says, "its just a theory.".

It could be an error in the books? It's happened to me when I got one of them.

If William Afton always comes back, he always survives it because it’s the one to help him

Maybe Before that location but that’s just a Theroy A GAME THEROY

The book is the movie written in greater detail by the creator of the game. It extends the movie because movies don’t include inner monologue that gives greater insight. Thats what the book is for. So it is connected to it. My theory however: its possible Mikes birth month and day can effect his age, meaning its possible he turned 12 towards the end of ‘86 rather than 87’ which could mean Garrett was taken in 86 and not 87. 86 is mid 80’s so that would track in terms of the reporters clothes. However it wasn’t until 83-85 that the events of the kids being lured to their doom occured. So thats where Vanessa claiming it was before freddys doesnt make sense. But it is possible that William lied to her about somethings. It’s possible she doesnt have all the info she thinks she has. Or maybe she was lying for him intentionally. She was ordered to keep him in the dark and kill him if he got too close. It’s also worth noting, in the dream sequence the kids faces are blurred. Its possible that symbolizes that they are losing their memories the longer they are dead and possessing the suits. There’s a huge theory due to the book that Vanessa is an animatronic as well with the spirit of Williams daughter in it. We know the movie flips the families so that William has as far as we know one daughter, resembling Henrys family, where Mikes family resembles the afton kids but is possibly Henrys kids in the movie, thus why William chooses to take Garrett in 86-87 as revenge for Ethans death in 83 at the hands or should I say Jaws of an animatronic Henry created, aka the bite of 83. It would also explain william recognizing Mike’s name and face and why he wanted to kill him as well. But If Vanessa is a symbol of Charlie, and is haunting a very human like animatronic, its possible she too has her memories corrupted by time.

Connection terminated. I'm sorry to interupt you Elizabeth, if you still even remember that name, but I'm afraid you've been misinformed. You're not here to recieve a gift, nor have you been called here by the individual you assume, although you have indeed been called. You have all been called here, into a labyrinth of sounds and smells, misdirection and misfortune. A labirynth with no exit, a maze with no prize. You don't even realize that you are trapped. Your lust for blood has driven you in endless circles, chasing the cries of children in some unseen chamber always seeming so near, yet somehow out of reach. But you will never find them, none of you will. This is where your story ends. And to you, my brave volunteer, who somehow found this job listing not intended for you, although there was a way out planned for you, I have a feeling that's not what you want. I have a feeling that you are right where you want to be. I am remaining as well. I am nearby. This place will not be remembered and the memory of everything that started this can finally begin to fade away, as the agony of every tragedy should. And to you monsters trapped in the corridors, be still, and give up your spirits. They don't belong to you. For most of you, I believe there is peace and perhaps more waiting for you after the smoke clears. Although for one of you, the darkest pit of hell has opened to swallow you whole, so don't keep the devil waiting old friend. My daughter, if you can hear me, I knew you would return as well. It's in your nature to protect the innocent. I'm sorry that on that day, the day you were shut out and left to die, no one was there to lift you up into their arms, the way you lifted others into yours. And then, what became of you? I should have known you wouldn't be contempt to just disappear, not my daughter. I couldn't save you then, so let me save you now. It's time to rest. For you, and those you have carried in your arms. This ends, for all of us. End communication.

Mid-80s fashion would still be popular in 1987

I want to know why William took Garrett in the first place. As we know, Mike and his family were on a camping trip. It's very suspicious that William went all the way out there to kidnap a kid. Because as we know, the other kids were killed at the pizzeria. and so far, we don’t know if there’s any connection between the two families. But Mike doesn’t know about Freddy’s but he could’ve been there in the past. Just doesn’t remember because my mother doesn’t remember a lot of stuff from her childhood/ trauma.

Next time add this to you and your friend’s dweller survival world and play it without him knowing you are in it

I figure scott did this to maybe tease or mess with people for the reason of not reviling much or to show plots to the next movie

Garret may be puppet or ballon boy

Mid-80s is subjective. A lot of people also consider 1987 to be mid-80s, at least _I_ do

Fred bears family diner that is before Freddy Fazbear’s pizza. And that’s why the food receipt in the movie is more weathered because it’s from the diner

im focused on the beat its so good the fnaf movie song

John: The 5 kids were taken before Garret also John: Garret was taken before the 5 kids Me: *my brain snapping*

The FNAF movie answered questions but also raised questions classic Scott

Maybe what vannesa meant was Garrett was taken before the children at freddys

Dawg I just finished watching this I need to rewatch this now

I’m pretty sure that what he meant by before Freddy’s is before the Freddy’s five missing children incident

mike could have been born in late 1974 and was turning 26 in 2000, carrot could have been aftoned in early 1986 with the rest of the murders later throughout the year. Honestly this just seems to be a way to set up garret being the puppet.

William Afton and Henry Emily opened a restaurant around the early 70s, named Fredbear's Family Diner, which quickly evolved into a chain of restaurants known as "Freddy Fazbear's Pizza," started in 1983, under the company of Fazbear Entertainment, Inc. At some point, both of them left the company, with an unknown individual taking over as CEO. William was secretly a serial killer, using mascot costumes to lure, abduct, and murder kids. His motives aren't known, though widely speculated to be him trying to achieve immortality through researching the paranormal, haunted metal (known as remnant), which he created through the murders. His first target was Charlotte Emily, the daughter of Henry. She became the Marionette, a ghost who took care of and helped awaken the other lost souls. In 1983, William's younger son also died in an incident, at the fault of his eldest - Michael. The younger son (name unknown, BV for short) 's fate is still unknown, though often speculated to be connected to either Golden Freddy (an enigmatic spirit taking the form of a yellow bear) or helping Charlie with saving other souls. "I will put you back together" was the last thing said to BV by a debatable party, most commonly believed to be either William, Charlie, or Golden Freddy. In 1985, William killed 2 kids, and 3 others were later connected to that incident (The Missing Children Incident, or MCI). He was arrested but released due to a lack of evidence. 4 of these kids were Gabriel, Susie, Little Jeremy, and Fritz, going on to haunt Freddy, Bonnie, Chica, and Foxy, respectively, with Susie implied to have been the first to die. The 5th is commonly believed to be named Cassidy, becoming Golden Freddy, though some think it's someone else. In 1987, William pretended to be a security guard at a new Pizzeria and killed 5 more kids (DCI for short), who went on to be the Toy animatronics. This caused the unimportant Bite of '87. In 1993, Mike worked a shift at the haunted original Freddy's. Later that year, the location was closed, and the company went bankrupt. He later had some sort of nightmares about it and his brother's death, likely paranormal in nature. At some point, William went to that original Freddy's to destroy the 4 haunted robots, but ghosts manifested, and fearing for his life, he put on the costume he used to kill them. It was actually a part costume part robot hybrid, though, and due to the leaking roof, the machine snapped on him, killing him. He went on to haunt it and/or his corpse inside. While Freddy's existed, a Sister Location called "Circus Baby's Pizza World" opened. It was a front for William to kill more kids, with the robots there made to kidnap them. It backfired when his daughter sneaked in to see Baby, and it killed her. She then haunted it. William, distraught, locked her and the other robots from there in an underground warehouse where they were rented out for parties. The other robots also got haunted somehow, likely with melted down remnant from some other kids, most likely MCI. Years later, William sent Mike there to find Elizabeth. Thinking he was William, she tricked him, and the Funtime Robots combined into one amalgam of wires, killed Mike, and used his corpse as a skin suit to escape. He quickly rotted, and they had to escape to the sewers. He repossessed his corpse thanks to remnant, though. Around 30 years after his death (presumably 2023, though that may be debunked now), William was found by Phone Dude, who stole him and put him into his cheap horror attraction based on the Freddy's urban legends, not knowing William was inside the robot. After a few nights, the building burned down, and William escaped. There's also a good ending in that game where Charlie released the other spirits, but its canonicity is "complicated" according to Scott (FNaF creator). Mike also had a security logbook at some point, where two ghosts, BV and presumably Cassidy (given it's not him), talked about something. Finally, after like 50 years, Henry re-emerged and made a fake pizzeria, where he called the Funtime robots, now separated from Elizabeth, herself, and William. He also made a robot that captured Charlie. After a bunch of managers failed to collect all 4 robots, Mike came and succeeded. Henry burned them all and himself, with high temperatures now revealed to work on ghosts, apparently. Fazbear Entertainment, Inc. was supposedly closed for good. But one ghost, very highly implied to be Golden Freddy, though argued as a random never-before-seen 6th MCI kid by some, wasn't ready to let William go, so he kept him from being released and tortured him in super nightmares. There's a book series called Fazbear Frights which has debatable canonicity too that'd take place after this, but if canon it's basically just filler that nullifies the Vengeful Spirit nightmares thing. After all this, Fazbear Entertainment was revived as Fazbear Entertainment, LLC. They kidnapped a guy and gaslighted him into living in a secluded fake house they made for him, where he made FNAF games, in the FNaF universe, as to make it seem like it was all just fake stories. A VR game was later made, that was a remake of these, but some suspecious circuit boards were sent to be scanned into it, creating a paranormal, digital entity known as Glitchtrap. It appears as a man in Spring Bonnie (William's suit), acts exactly like William, knows stuff only William knows and even claims to be back, with William's catchphrase of sorts being "I always come back". After a bit of shenanigans, it manages to possess a beta tester and makes her his minion. We call her Vanny. Vanessa, most likely Vanny, then got a desk job at Fazbear Entertainment. Fazbear Funtime Service, a program where animatronics were mass produced and sent for parties, etc. got hijacked by Glitchtrap who made them hostile. He made Vanessa infiltrate the service as a fake FazEnt representative, supposedly fix his infection, but actually just cut off anyone's access to the system other than him, and send a data packet with him to the current Pizzeria - Freddy Fazbear's Mega Pizzaplex. In the current book series, most likely canon, there's this AI called Mimic1, which copies stuff. Many think that's actually what Glitchtrap is, just AI copying William. It's an ongoing debate. An Endoskeleton with it installed was sent to the last simulated Freddy's Henry built to burn, where it got out of control, started killing people and in the ongoing story is hunting down a group of teens. As the Pizzaplex was built on top of the simulated Freddy's, the Mimic got control over it too, but was quickly taken down. There's also this boy Gregory who ended up possessed by Glitchtrap and hacking the Pizzaplex for reasons unknown. Now in Security Breach (possibly 2035), Gregory, out of Glitchtrap's control, had to escape being trapped in the Pizzaplex, as all the robots controlled by Glitchtrap and Vanny wanted to kill him. With the help of Glamrock Freddy, most likely haunted by someone, though it's unknown who, Greg ended up finding a newly built Springtrap in the simulated Freddy's and somehow defeating it. There's also a giant abomination of wires that resambles the Funtime amalgam down there, it took this William away. This is pretty much where we are now, in gross oversimplification.

I think that Freddy's opened in the late-80s to very early- 90s and that the other children were taken in the early-90s as well in 1992 or 1993, around the time the FNAF 1 game takes place

Maybe it means before before Freddy’s animatronics were possessed by children😅

To be fair, the novelisation is an early draft of the script, so it shouldn’t be taken as official canon to the movie at this point.

before freddys...FREDBEARS DINNER BRO.

Bro, the guy just might decide to wear some old-fashioned clothes😂

What does Fnaf stand for Me:uh hmmm My bff:five nights at federal prison?

The person could have just decided to wear those clothes.

Well fnaf two(game) takes place before the original game so maby the freddys shes talking about is the freddys they are at

Talk 70% Music 50%💀

I swear, Scott’s gonna pull a back to the future in the next movie or game.

welcome to fnaf I don’t know what to tell you

I mean... Mid 80s clothing doesnt necessarily mean it WAS the mid 80s.

Well if she wore mid 80s clothes it doesn’t mean it actually was the mid 80s

A shirt changed everything

How did Mike notice about vanessa never getting a chance to meet garrett.

Just saying if he was kidnapped in 1987 then toy chica never did the bite of 87

“ITS THAT THE KIDNAP OF 87????!!!??"

U R THE NEXT MATPAT U SOLVE THINGS BETTER THAN HIM!

Me watching this after I watched the movie and had a mental breakdown 😃

No way? What if Vanessa is a traitor after all, and her dad stabbing her was just to trick them into certainty? This opens so many theories!

Fredbears family dinner: Am I a joke to you.

It’s just sad how William was happy when he killed 5+ kids he’s just a crazy man! But something i thought about was how his/Williams life as a kid was.

They probably mean before the kids went missing at Freddy’s like how Garret went missing.

The movie story is always going to be different from the official game canon. It always happens to video game based movies. Anyone remember Street Fighter the live action movie?

you don't need to make FNAF lore up when Jonny the night gaurd exist

It might've been before it was called Freddy's, it was probably when it was still called Fazbear Family Diner.

I mean, that was his imagination. So he is just imagining the memories around him instead of looking to himself.

Well, the novel was most likely an earlier draft of the script, meaning that this was possibly changed

Garrett was kidnapped on the bite of 87😊

I will say that the movie does follow close with the actual lore. Just not completely

Why are you trying to solve the FNAF Movie with the novel? Stop trying to solve things wit the books, please!

I'm sure the reporter can wear mid 80's clothes in the late 80's.

The fact that the William afton and Michael afton is weird bc William afton was the one who opened it and got springlocked and that was Michael afton dad and they dont know each other and they kidnapped his brother so whats your thoughts?

It could also mean before he went to Freddy's

Mmm okay but moving to important stuff, do we think garreth will be puppet? 👀

You know what I’m just realizing what were the names of the Five Nights at Freddy’s 2 children

Before the famous 5 Freddy murders.

What if Mike had a Birthday after the events of the Movie and Carrot was actually kidnapped in 1986 and later the same year the MCI happened and all the kids possesed the animatronics in 1987

Mid-80’s can still be 1987

“Uh, hello? Hello, hello? Uh, I wanted to record a message for you to help you get settled in on your first night. Um, I actually worked in that office before you. I’m finishing up my last week now, as a matter of fact. So, I know it can be a bit overwhelming, but I’m here to tell you there’s nothing to worry about. Uh, you’ll do fine. So, let’s just focus on getting you through your first week. Okay?” “Uh, I’m sorry if I’m being a bit repetitive. Uh, we just want to emphasize the importance of using your door lights. There are blind spots in your camera views, and those blind spots happen to be right outside of your doors. So, if you can’t find something or someone on your cameras, be sure to check the door lights. Uh, you might only have a few seconds to react. Not that you’d be in any danger, of course. I’m not implying that.” “Uh, they used to be allowed to walk around during the day too. But then there was The Bite of ‘87. Yeah. It’s amazing that the human body can live without the frontal lobe, you know?” “Uh, anyway, I better not take up too much of your time. Things start getting real tonight. Uh, hey, listen, I had an idea: if you happen to get caught and want to avoid getting stuffed into a Freddy suit, uh, try playing dead. You know, go limp. Then there’s a chance that maybe they’ll think that you’re an empty costume instead. Then again, if they think you’re an empty costume, they might try to… stuff a metal skeleton into you. I wonder how that would work.” “Uh, these characters hold a special place in the hearts of children, and we need to show them a little respect, right? Okay

Hello? Hello, hello? Uh, I wanted to record a message for you to help you get settled in on your first night. Um, I actually worked in that office before you. I'm finishing up my last week now, as a matter of fact. So, I know it can be a bit overwhelming, but I'm here to tell you there's nothing to worry about. Uh, you'll do fine. So, let's just focus on getting you through your first week, okay? Uh, let's see, first there's an introductory greeting from the company that I'm supposed to read. Uh, it's kind of a legal thing, you know. Um, "Welcome to Freddy Fazbear's Pizza. A magical place for kids and grown-ups alike, where fantasy and fun come to life. Fazbear Entertainment is not responsible for damage to property or person. Upon discovering that damage or death has occurred, a missing person report will be filed within 90 days, or as soon property and premises have been thoroughly cleaned and bleached, and the carpets have been replaced." Blah, blah, blah. Now that might sound bad, I know, but there's really nothing to worry about. Uh, the animatronic characters here do get a bit quirky at night, but do I blame them? No. If I were forced to sing those same stupid songs for twenty years and I never got a bath? I'd probably be a bit irritable at night too. So, remember, these characters hold a special place in the hearts of children and we need to show them a little respect, right? Okay. So, just be aware, the characters do tend to wander a bit. Uh, they're left in some kind of free roaming mode at night. Uh... something about their servos locking up if they get turned off for too long. Uh, they used to be allowed to walk around during the day too. But then there was The Bite of '87. Yeah. I-It's amazing that the human body can live without the frontal lobe, you know? Uh, now concerning your safety, the only real risk to you as a night watchman here, if any, is the fact that these characters, uh, if they happen to see you after hours probably won't recognize you as a person. They'll pr- they'll most likely see you as a metal endoskeleton without its costume on. Now since that's against the rules here at Freddy Fazbear's Pizza, they'll probably try to... forcefully stuff you inside a Freddy Fazbear suit. Um, now, that wouldn't be so bad if the suits themselves weren't filled with crossbeams, wires, and animatronic devices, especially around the facial area. So, you could imagine how having your head forcefully pressed inside one of those could cause a bit of discomfort... and death. Uh, the only parts of you that would likely see the light of day again would be your eyeballs and teeth when they pop out the front of the mask, heh.

Or she didn't know about the other children after Garrett

It has been stated multiple time that it runs off seperate lore...

the lore also doesn't add up to matpats theories of the game, which were confirmed by scott (i think...) the names dont add up. or the ages of the characters, or even that Garret was meant to be Crying Child, because cc never got murdered... or kidnapped. we all know how he died. the bite of 83. and most of the main events of any of the games weren't mentioned. all im saying is, i woulda preferred a game lore accurate version.

Bro it’s only clothing from a date what if the reporter just likes those clothes?

the thing i don’t understand is susie’s voice line. “i was the first i have seen everything” because if she died first, she didnt see the others die, right? the last would have seen everyone die, therefore they would have seen everything.

Was that the bite of 87!?!???!??

Or maybe idk she’s wearing clothes from the mid-80s but not in the mid-80s