The Ford Focus RS Engine is Seriously Bad & Ford Had to Know. This one Locked Up!

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LegitStreetCars

LegitStreetCars

6 жыл бұрын

This is the insane story of a 2016 Ford Focus RS owner who had his engine lock up at only 20,000 miles. I cover the major defect with the Focus RS engine in detail and try to figure out how this horrible problem passed inspection at Ford. Hope you enjoy and don't forget to subscribe.
Big thanks to Stratified Auto for all the great info. Here is a link for them if you guys need performance work. They seem to really know their stuff.
stratifiedauto.com/blog/focus-...
Thanks to focusrs.org for a ton of good info as well. Here is that super long thread.
www.focusrs.org/forum/154-focu...
Here a link for the diagnostic flow chart. www.focusrs.org/forum/16-focus...

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@LegitStreetCars
@LegitStreetCars 6 жыл бұрын
In the end, what do you think Ford will do about this?
@bernarddickinson2715
@bernarddickinson2715 6 жыл бұрын
Shamefully, Ford will kick the can down the road not unlike GMs Northstar blast furnace and Chrysler's 2.7l sludge maker. Im betting the RS gets a new motor for the MCE.
@MarkCup70
@MarkCup70 6 жыл бұрын
I got a complete new engine when my RS suffered from this problem and not just a long block either, everything from the throttle body right through to the turbo including a new clutch and flywheel! I think when the recall comes it'll be an inspection and gasket replacement unless there's evidence of coolant loss and bore scoring in which case it'll have to be the complete engine. It's going to cost Ford a massive amount!
@actschp1
@actschp1 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure that Ford will do anything about this but, I am sure there are some enterprising small performance companies out there that would take a scrapped long block that has too much warpage and cut it up into pieces that can be used to reinforce those cylinder sleeves to the block and to the adjacent cylinders without blocking coolant flow. It looks like it could be done with a little bit of effort and make the engine much more reliable.
@happyvibes9664
@happyvibes9664 6 жыл бұрын
Mermaids
@theflatearthsociety
@theflatearthsociety 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty accurate sum-up of the Northstar and 2.7L haha
@steventatlock5443
@steventatlock5443 6 жыл бұрын
I'm currently working at Ford. I've literally worked the station putting head gaskets on the new Focus engines (well, before I got laid off and production of the new Focus engines got moved to China). This isn't necessarily super germane to the engineering problems, but speaks to Ford's general attitude- I was trained on that station by another temp employee for less than 10 minutes before being left unsupervised to do it for an entire shift. I was shown the task a few times, observed doing it 'correctly', and then left to my own devices. I'm fairly knowledgeable about cars, so I realized that I shouldn't smear the gasket sealant that is already applied when the engine reaches your station, however, this was never even mentioned to me. Virtually nothing that I would have considered pertinent to the job was explained. What if I put the gasket on upside down and then have to flip it? Oh, whoops, it's all covered in the sealant, and now there's less than there should be on the correct side, guess this engine's going though. I just missed one of the two indexing points and have now pushed the gasket into the sealant, but have to now pivot the whole thing a couple degrees to get it to sit correctly, guess what, that engine's going through. Accidentally smeared a big chunk of sealant off with my hand while placing the gasket. Godspeed lil' engine. I'm not saying I ever did any of this, but based on my interactions with the rest of the work force, I can virtually guarantee situations like that occurred. Now, take into account that roughly 50% of Ford's workforce is part-time temp workers. Half of the assembly of that engine is being performed to this 'standard' with a comparable level of experience at the specific tasks. It was a rare occasion for me to perform a job I had done before, mainly because the temp workers were slotted wherever needed. Everyone actually showed up today? Ok, send the highest payed legacy workers home and slot a part time worker into their team (team, not task, you sure as fuck aren't getting the job that legacy worker was doing). Team 3 is short people today? Grab a temp from team 7 and stick them in a job. And here's the best part- they're not giving you the simplest, easiest to understand jobs, because anyone with seniority is instantly going to bitch if you get slotted into an easier job than them. So, there you go. Part time workers with no incentive to do well (we don't get profit sharing, earn vacation, sick days, or seniority, have no pension, etc, etc) are performing the most difficult or time consuming assembly tasks, mostly unsupervised, that they have virtually no experience doing. "Ford- Quality First" Oh, fun bonus story of working on the final engine test stations. If the engine doesn't pass, you retest it. If it still doesn't pass, you retest it. If it still doesn't pass, you 'reject' it, meaning it does a loop on the conveyor system, and hopefully passes for one of the other stations. Who knows, since they're being made in China now, maybe the next year's Focus engines will be rock solid (oh right, Ford can't design an engine correctly either..). (edited for grammar/ punctuation)
@Alwayzsmilin
@Alwayzsmilin 5 жыл бұрын
This comment right here. Working environments have greatly changed and for the worst.
@harrygaul4475
@harrygaul4475 5 жыл бұрын
Steven, Cummins diesel engines are made by a lot of temporary workers and workers often rotate throughout the factory. These jobs are not Rocket scientists working on jet engines and all engines are tested after manufacturing. They do the same thing as Ford with testing (different stations for running different tests). Over half the parts on those engines come from China and India. I worked as a product engineer at Cummins so I know what goes on behind-the-scenes with quality. I'm sure Ford goes through the same problems and processes. I've owned lots of Ford's over the past 25 plus years including the 2.0 liter engine and never had any issues with them getting over 200,000 miles on it. I will say that the 2.0 liter engine with the overhead cams run a bit rough during idle, but still are very dependable. Factory recalls are normal for cars these days and often times issues don't appear until years later.
@AmericanWithTheTruth
@AmericanWithTheTruth 5 жыл бұрын
Harry Gaul I think I’m going to believe the guy who actually worked on the engines himself than someone with just an opinion like everyone else.
@sirdouglashowel5thseat776
@sirdouglashowel5thseat776 5 жыл бұрын
ffs
@user-xm6ro1ep5d
@user-xm6ro1ep5d 5 жыл бұрын
Ford is shit and you know it, don’t excuse the brand
@Glasseyed86
@Glasseyed86 6 жыл бұрын
Mine blew a head gasket at 7k miles. They replaced the head. It did it again at 18k miles. They replaced the motor.
@LegitStreetCars
@LegitStreetCars 6 жыл бұрын
Unreal! Alex
@Revo2Evo
@Revo2Evo 6 жыл бұрын
MrGrey you should’ve just replaced the car.
@jeffufcfanaticrosenberg
@jeffufcfanaticrosenberg 6 жыл бұрын
MrGrey ford = found on road dead for a reason
@palillo2006
@palillo2006 6 жыл бұрын
MrGrey i'm sure it is going to happen again. Next I'm tell them to buy back the car through the lemon law. Having an open block design is not ideal for high HP engines.
@flush_entity
@flush_entity 6 жыл бұрын
Tony Dinh funny you say honda. Type R (same price point as focus RS) has an issue with going into 2nd gear. In fact, it grinds pretty badly. At least Ford would replace or fix the problem, as honda... did not want to. "Please send in transmission oil sample" still no response. So many people has this issue and Honda wont do a goddamn thing about it. Oh and only about 3% of the RS's has this gasket issue, however, the type R.... just about 17% and its making me want to sell mine.
@keithsa41
@keithsa41 5 жыл бұрын
What do you call a Ford RS with 20,000 miles on it? A miracle
@anonimous2451
@anonimous2451 5 жыл бұрын
hahahahahahahaha
@slingbart705
@slingbart705 5 жыл бұрын
Ba Dum Pssssst
@LolliWANG505
@LolliWANG505 5 жыл бұрын
What do you call a ZR1 and Z06 with 10,000 miles literally a miracle.
@bassrutten9838
@bassrutten9838 5 жыл бұрын
An antique.
@21coltsrox
@21coltsrox 5 жыл бұрын
Mine has 50k...no issues yet
@sminem6572
@sminem6572 5 жыл бұрын
“A year later Frank found the fifth drive mode called blown head gasket mode” lmaoooooo
@Ultrabenbooyah
@Ultrabenbooyah 6 жыл бұрын
The problem with this engine is not the open deck design, it's probably the coolant loop. The turbo headers are integrated into the cylinder head, and the engine coolant is used to cool the headers. Research of a very popular German RS and ST (Beast Factory) tuner has shown that steam bubbles build up in the hottest area of the coolant loop. And that's next to the headers between cylinder 2 and 3, where the 4 exhaust pipes come together. The steam bubbles collect at the highest point of the cooling loop, which is at exactly this point, so they stay there and don't exit the system. Steam bubbles can't conduct heat nearly as good as liquid coolant, so these parts of the head and block get even hotter and hotter, beyond 1000°C. This leads to the head and block deforming. They did a very detailed explanation on how the coolant runs, how they tested it, and why this is not an open deck problem. They even explained why the Mustang Ecoboost is not having these issues. I can't give more details out of my head, but you should get the idea. Apparently there have been broken engines with the old and the new head gaskets. Beast Factory uses waterless coolant to work around the problem, since it has a higher boiling point. They did not encounter cooling problems on testing, yet, but only time can tell.
@MisterNiggaX
@MisterNiggaX 6 жыл бұрын
interesting... can I have a link to the article?
@Ultrabenbooyah
@Ultrabenbooyah 6 жыл бұрын
They did a 20 minutes youtube video explaining the issues on some opened up engines, but the video is in german. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7SJfMeG39rPaIE.html You'll have to see for yourself if the english subtitles work for you.
@MisterNiggaX
@MisterNiggaX 6 жыл бұрын
Ultrabenbooyah thank you I'll see if the subtitles work!💪
@WarpedPerception
@WarpedPerception 6 жыл бұрын
That had me cracking up!! Tokyo drift, Poor guy and his dreams ... Ford crushed them.
@chevyfan029
@chevyfan029 6 жыл бұрын
speaking of head gasket failures...
@johnhamrick88
@johnhamrick88 6 жыл бұрын
Should have put the 2jz in it...run forever
@Bangkok-ik1fp
@Bangkok-ik1fp 6 жыл бұрын
Warped Perception crushed them and took his money with interest. shameful business practice.
@michaelwaskonig9734
@michaelwaskonig9734 6 жыл бұрын
John Hamrick Blown Headgasket are common on 2jz and at the Nürburgring you see them blown often because we got no kiddie tracks and roads like the US . Every company car here do more racing on a daily use then your hyper tuned cars wich can only last a quarter mile before it blows.
@Davido50
@Davido50 6 жыл бұрын
Warped Perception ...he crushed his own dreams. This whole scenario seems like BS!
@sebgee4716
@sebgee4716 5 жыл бұрын
So this is how ken block gets those smokey drifts! Lmfao
@jew_world_order
@jew_world_order 4 жыл бұрын
Ken block is a homosexual
@jakobsmith3772
@jakobsmith3772 2 жыл бұрын
@@jew_world_order your a homosexual
@bene4395
@bene4395 6 жыл бұрын
"A year later Frank found the fifth drive mode, Blown Headgasket Mode" hahahaha 😂
@michaelszczys8316
@michaelszczys8316 5 жыл бұрын
They really do have a blown gasket mode, it’s called “ Limp In Mode “
@juancruz-jg5pq
@juancruz-jg5pq Жыл бұрын
The head gasket issue was fixed, im at 135k miles , just regular maintenance and 2 set of clutch . Its been an amazing journey with the RS. people have no idea what they missed by avoiding this vehicle . Also makes me feel good because no body wants an RS and that is good because is hard to see an RS n the streets and makes your car unique . Hard to spot one . I have only seen 4 in a 5 year period around orlando Fl.
@friend_built
@friend_built 6 жыл бұрын
Blown head gasket mode! Love it
@superapple4ever
@superapple4ever 6 жыл бұрын
Friend Built Yeah, sounds like a Ford.
@TheTyisawesome
@TheTyisawesome 6 жыл бұрын
First video of yours, you easily sold me on your channel in this video alone the quality is amazing makes it very enjoyable to watch and all facts are straight up and the pictures of what you are talking about are an awesome addition.
@MR-ni7dh
@MR-ni7dh 6 жыл бұрын
Great Video, Very direct with explanation, details and Look forward to hearing more about what Ford is doing for RS Owners.
@JDMHaze
@JDMHaze 6 жыл бұрын
"blown head gasket mode" lmaooo
@DeusVolo
@DeusVolo 6 жыл бұрын
A+ on the production value! Production value + solid content = a very happy subscriber! I can't say the same for Frank Focus. Keep these kind of videos coming Alex and this channel will take off. I've been with you since 1k subs.
@LegitStreetCars
@LegitStreetCars 6 жыл бұрын
Sanctus Vianney Thanks a lot! You are a channel OG for sure. Alex
@awesomeandre1757
@awesomeandre1757 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make theses videos. I believe you have a solid future doing this given your expertise and polished presentations.
@robertmyers4390
@robertmyers4390 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks for all your time and effort, Bob 😎
@khaloq2016
@khaloq2016 5 жыл бұрын
i have ford focus 2014 - 60,000 km now the problem in speed 1& 2 not working as well.
@FLPLASTICSURG1
@FLPLASTICSURG1 6 жыл бұрын
Alex: You Rock! You provide a logical and linear analysis of a complex problem in a manner that "Non Car Guy's and Gals" can understand. You need an agent to set you up with a syndicated Cable TV Show. Keep up the great work and Happy Holidays.
@lordraiden5398
@lordraiden5398 6 жыл бұрын
At least Ford is taking care of the problem. When I grenaded my transmission on my 02' WRX it was stock except for a Exedy OE replacement clutch that I had installed at a Subaru dealership. The transmission was making a ticking noise after the clutch install that it wasn't making before it. I took it back and they informed me that I had some broken teeth on 2nd gear and blamed it on hard launches. I was still breaking the clutch in and had not taken the car over 3K rpm which is barely getting into boost. I contacted a SOA rep and they basicly said it was my fault even though lots of people were having the same problem. Its good that RS owners are documenting on You Tube. Keep Ford honest.
@n0w3lly90
@n0w3lly90 2 жыл бұрын
Reason why I bought an ST: the RS has a bored out block which is the same as the one in the ST, but therefore has weaker cylinder linings/ walls. Also, both cars have cast rather than forged pistons and con rods. So don't do pulls from low revvs in high gears. The head gasket is also weak because it can't cope with the compression ratios. Usual situation with Fast Fords: great cars, but built to a cost. Great ideas for health of car: meticulously replace oil every 7500 miles; drain and replace coolant every 20-30,000 miles, and do a regular decarbonisation every few thousand miles too (because of the direct injection)
@aapoheikkinen3395
@aapoheikkinen3395 4 жыл бұрын
This channel is awesome! Really interesting to follow how you tackle problems.
@robertgoldsworthy5481
@robertgoldsworthy5481 6 жыл бұрын
That was an awesome video! I hope there are more just like this in the future, I’m sure there is enough weird stories just like this one with other car manufacturers. Great job dude!
@malcolmh5736
@malcolmh5736 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. For did put out the FSA and I got a new head and head gasket. Ford took responsibility for it and my car is all fixed at no cost to me, including free rental car for the 2 weeks. I do like the car very much. Hopefully, all is fixed. It runs great so far. Update: It had an undiagnosable issue with the auto engine stop/start. Ford took the car back and gave me a 2018 RS. The head gasket issue was on certain models and build time-lines. The 2018s did not have the HG issue as they addressed it. My 2018 now has 45k miles on it and It’s been 100% reliable. I absolutely love it. Also, I do get a bit of a Subaru fan boy/RS hater vibe here but who know heh. There's a portion of this vid that shows how good a WRX head is, opposed to the RS head.. b/c we all know that Subarus never blow a head gasket 🤣.
@SilverDelSol
@SilverDelSol 5 жыл бұрын
U should have gone for the type r 😁. Its a bit slower, but it runs!! 😎😎
@NuttyRageGaming
@NuttyRageGaming 5 жыл бұрын
@@SilverDelSol and only fwd lol and more expensive 😂 fuck the type R
@tazmankb26
@tazmankb26 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and presentation. This issue is not unique to the 2.3. My 2.0 EB in 2016 Edge had the same issues. First eating coolant, they replaced the head at 25K, by 39K they had to replace the long block for same issues.
@markusbalmer7501
@markusbalmer7501 2 жыл бұрын
Mate the 1.0 litre eb is worse we called them ecoboom take a guess to why haha
@ChristopherGaul
@ChristopherGaul 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. Given Ford's history gas tank diff shields with design defects, unless it's projected to cost more than lawsuits they'll ignore it. Anyway, you mentioned suggestions. How about Toyota's ongoing software issues. From the killer Priuses a few years back to the current Tacoma drive by wire issues that they can't seem to resolve. Of all the companies in the world you might expect not to be able to get software right, Toyota is hard to believe.
@rhull3939
@rhull3939 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid Alex. Every one gets better. I can tell you're getting more comfortable in front of the camera.
@LegitStreetCars
@LegitStreetCars 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Robert. Appreciate that. Alex
@rhull3939
@rhull3939 6 жыл бұрын
LegitStreetCars No problem. If you get a chance, you should have an email from me a while back about an AMG I'm interested in buying from a friend. Email starts with robhull. Happy holidays.
@mikeboehmer324
@mikeboehmer324 6 жыл бұрын
Great video Alex, can’t wait to see more of these
@engineer4hire
@engineer4hire 5 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video! Thank you so much for this key info on the RS reliability. Looks like the RS is a good candidate for engine swap, any info on people doing this? If so, what engine they used? I know pretty sorry thing to have to do for car that’s only couple years old!!
@juancruz-jg5pq
@juancruz-jg5pq Жыл бұрын
All issues were fixed with the focus RS under ford recall. this guy from this channel has alot of hate with ford because a previous bad experience he had with a different vehicle. Even he erases all legit positive comments from legit owners whose all we know there ir no issues with the RS. its an abuse resistant vehicle after recall was done .
@meganjay30
@meganjay30 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your video ! I was going to buy an RS but lucky I didn't. They really should have put legs at the top of those cylinders.. especially because the head gasket covers the openings anyway with only holes for the coolant to travel through so having legs to support it wouldn't slow coolant flow in any way IMO.
@K4R3N
@K4R3N 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video man, great work and perfect presentation
@conortobin6180
@conortobin6180 6 жыл бұрын
Love this type of video. subscribed. Keep up the good work.
@theufoexperience3859
@theufoexperience3859 5 жыл бұрын
Comprehensive and excellent review of this issue. Wanted one of these after I gave up on Subaru for making yet another ugly WRX. The new one looks like a Carolla, And the RS looks cool. Kind looks like the WRC Fiesta that MSport races. But that block design to me is just asking for trouble.
@IanFrancisco-CAPianoman
@IanFrancisco-CAPianoman 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know if you get to select the points at which the ads interrupt, but lately they always seem to cut you off at a bad time, creating a cliff hanger. Annoying, I much prefer the ads to come at a natural break in the action! Great work though, you are one of the KZfaq stars. Excellent content!
@WiryOak
@WiryOak 6 жыл бұрын
My college instructor worked on engineering the ford focus rs engine. He loves this engine and would often speak of the politics when building it. They had to meet the hp & torque ratings near the desired rpms, make the power-band smooth. I wonder what his explanation of this would be.
@theejoeylee
@theejoeylee 6 жыл бұрын
You cant have everything!
@TheJavonplayer
@TheJavonplayer 6 жыл бұрын
Please ask and let us know
@1400IntruderVS
@1400IntruderVS 6 жыл бұрын
The best evidence to determine the over all engine design is poor may be measured by repeat failures. If the replacement engine is equipped with a properly fitted gasket that is a better quality and the engine does not repeat the same failures after similar conditions have been met, than I would consider the over all design of the engine to be sound and the cause of the concern to be the gasket and or the original quality of assembly. Bare in mind during development every manufacturer performs rigorous durability testing. The likes of which are far crueler just about any daily driver will endure. However, the vendors that provide various parts during assembly often change during production if a parts supplier is unable to keep up with demand and or quality. This often the reason for many recalls.
@1400IntruderVS
@1400IntruderVS 6 жыл бұрын
Porsche used open decks for the 944 and 928 and neither of those engines were notorious for head gasket failures. The principle design is favorable for cooling and allows a higher volume of fluid around the cylinder to absorb vibrations. If the proper gaskets are fitted with the proper fasteners its should not be a problem. If after the first failure the engines are replaced or resurfaced heads and new gaskets experience the same failure conditions than I would agree that the block is the root cause.
@TheJavonplayer
@TheJavonplayer 6 жыл бұрын
1400IntruderVS the open deck appears to me one of the major problems here. The walls seem to slightly elliptical that can only be from wear from cylinders swaying up and down. Changing just the head gasket is just going the cheap rout and might work for now but doesn't solve the problem entirely.
@tavarish
@tavarish 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! I had no idea that the block was that exposed. I wonder if you can cement fill portions of the block to reinforce it.
@LegitStreetCars
@LegitStreetCars 6 жыл бұрын
Tavarish That's one way to go about it, but I suspect the warranty may be voided at that point, haha. Very interested in what Ford decides.
@osvaldovalencia6330
@osvaldovalencia6330 6 жыл бұрын
Tavarish yeah don’t do that lol u may fucked up the engine even more. But I’m sure Tunners will do a close deck just like they did on the STi
@reidsmith3002
@reidsmith3002 6 жыл бұрын
The number of poeple who didn't get the joke is shocking
@BodenM
@BodenM 6 жыл бұрын
Meeno Do you're a bit special aren't you? using cement, grout or resin to partially (or sometimes even completely) fill engine blocks for reinforcement is one of the oldest tricks in the book.
@sexyfacenation
@sexyfacenation 6 жыл бұрын
Meeno Do You are wrong bro. He isnt talking about what you think.
@miguelalves3652
@miguelalves3652 5 жыл бұрын
nice well done ... can you do a video about the rs5 ? there is a lot of videos in the web but nobody talk's about it's issues and common problems ... i can only assume that is a very reliable engine . i'm going to purchase one audi rs5 in a near future and it would help to be prepare ... thanks
@pauldavidson6321
@pauldavidson6321 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if a vented support ring machined to fit around the cylinders would help with the flexing issue ?
@danielchaidez4047
@danielchaidez4047 6 жыл бұрын
You should do a video about the rod bearing issues in S65 and S85 engines. Manufacturer defect? Just plain false? User error?
@Flydevice1
@Flydevice1 6 жыл бұрын
Great detailed vid, just subbed.
@jwl72
@jwl72 5 жыл бұрын
I saw another video concerning this where the guy said that it is very possible that the RS was mistakenly fitted with the head gasket at the factory from the 2.3 ECO Mustang engine. Both are 2.3, but the design of the blocks are different. His evidence is pretty convincing.
@CorvusHyperion
@CorvusHyperion 5 жыл бұрын
This is correct. This was the issue and Ford did a recall and sorted it out.
@antoniofigueroa5084
@antoniofigueroa5084 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. Now I understand better why theres no 2019 or 2020 focus RS. You saved me from getting into a 30k mile 2017 RS
@JrZguy07032
@JrZguy07032 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I would love to see you do a video and get your thoughts on the Mercedes m156 engine head bolt issue.
@LegitStreetCars
@LegitStreetCars 6 жыл бұрын
Its coming. Alex
@JrZguy07032
@JrZguy07032 6 жыл бұрын
LegitStreetCars That's awesome. You're E55 is killer btw
@AlfaGTA156
@AlfaGTA156 6 жыл бұрын
Great informative content👍. Don’t own an rs but subscribed.
@sandwich3558
@sandwich3558 5 жыл бұрын
Neat! you filmed this right next to my gym and the dealership I bought my mustang GT
@tonyconley970
@tonyconley970 5 жыл бұрын
was this issue fixed in the 2018 model? before i end up buying i should look more into it
@Stevo1361
@Stevo1361 6 жыл бұрын
Great info and presentation. Subbed.
@AbendscheinLGN
@AbendscheinLGN 6 жыл бұрын
The engine isn't bad in the least. The head gasket issue is from the ecostang's gasket being put on the RS by accident in the earlier builds. The difference is a single hole for routing coolant.
@Jonny.Jr.Jay.Junior
@Jonny.Jr.Jay.Junior 5 жыл бұрын
Can you do one on the fiesta st please!!! I have a 2015 an i have a weird tin sound just curious!!! Thank you, also, great RS video
@brandonmccollum6349
@brandonmccollum6349 5 жыл бұрын
A student in my automotive class works at a local Ford dealership that was doing these recals. Apparently the problem is a few of the plants were supposedly unknowingly putting the head gasket from the Ecoboost mustang on these, and there is some notable differences on these motors all though they are basically the same.
@brandonmccollum6349
@brandonmccollum6349 4 жыл бұрын
@ferkemall that's funny!!
@stevenhurd853
@stevenhurd853 6 жыл бұрын
I *really* like the idea of a channel that looks at how many newer cars have time bomb issues.
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 6 жыл бұрын
El Michoacano YOU don't make sense or have any, apparently. 😕✌
@BashMonkeyRC
@BashMonkeyRC 6 жыл бұрын
With cars nowadays that channel would be getting plenty of content to display And El Michoacano he's getting at how many newer cars tend to develop catastrophic breaks or failures, usually to defect in materials or flawed design (for example, the flawed design in the I4 ecoboost in this Focus)
@GIGABACHI
@GIGABACHI 6 жыл бұрын
Truth be told you did sound like being a Sarcastic Troll fishing for quick entertainment . . . kinda hard to tell with all the P.O.S users cruising YT land. Glad we got that misunderstanding out of the way.
@samanthaeast4035
@samanthaeast4035 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 Ford Focus not an RS just a sport model. It has had the exact same issue as this video! They are in the process of replacing the engine block, does that mean it will just happen again anyway?
@Pete_VS
@Pete_VS 5 жыл бұрын
Hey first of all thanks for the video. I own a 2016 ford mustang 2.3 ecoboost premium that is also leaking coolant in the engine... my question is: isn't it the same engine than the focus rs so it migh have the same problem??? Im taking it to the dealership this week, i havent been able to drive it since it was diagnosed ☹
@Pete_VS
@Pete_VS 4 жыл бұрын
@Nick Borg still is... major coolant leak in the short block and cylinder head/gasket. Oil mixed with coolant, cylinder 2 gone... they said if i want the car to last i need to replace the engine
@Pete_VS
@Pete_VS 4 жыл бұрын
No idea sorrry
@trader891
@trader891 6 жыл бұрын
“Blown head gasket mode”. Hehe
@slingbart705
@slingbart705 5 жыл бұрын
"Drift Blown Head Gasket Mode" that was Hilarious!! or is it a steam engine????
@royhsieh4307
@royhsieh4307 5 жыл бұрын
sounds like a regular ford mode to me. found on road dead
@George19906oficcial
@George19906oficcial 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure that was implemented by Subaru on the Impreza
@jimtekkit
@jimtekkit 4 жыл бұрын
Automatically engaged, for your convenience.
@hauldr
@hauldr 6 жыл бұрын
Newbie first video of yours subbed good job very informative
@IbanezBassist
@IbanezBassist 5 жыл бұрын
Im getting a 2012 Focus SEL. I really like the focus. I understand that this year had recall problems which Im going to get taken care of for cheap. my searching tells me It's the purge valve line because It has idling problems. Should I get a different year? What's the best year to go for? Last, can I replace the cylinder gasket head with a semi-open deck aftermarket part? And if yes can I get some recommendations?
@goosecollop7580
@goosecollop7580 6 жыл бұрын
I know I am late, but does was this problem fixed for the 2017 or 2018 model year?
@jacquespoirier9071
@jacquespoirier9071 6 жыл бұрын
I drive an old volvo 240 with a B230 engine , 114 HP and over 600,000 miles on it without any intervention on the engine short block When I see aberrations like that, I'm sure that I will keep it for a long time. It's sure that such a boosted engine is much more prone to troubles but it is inacceptable to put in the hands of the public engines that should be reserved for competition use where a qualified team is employed to make a close followup. I will not discuss of the technical solutions but simply say that when you buy a "new and improved" product, in fact, you buy a cheaper product that search cobayes to make the tests
@ACERASPIRE1
@ACERASPIRE1 6 жыл бұрын
You're my hero :D
@johnspanishh6872
@johnspanishh6872 6 жыл бұрын
Well done mate loads of helpful info
@kochj0713
@kochj0713 6 жыл бұрын
I almost picked up a RS.... but I ended up purchasing a almost brand new C7 Z06. Very happy with my purchase... sorry to hear about some issues with the RS...
@zeusmerc1272
@zeusmerc1272 5 жыл бұрын
is this still a problem in the 18’ ? i’ve wanted an RS since it came out, but now i’m having my doubts.
@bheypuor
@bheypuor 6 жыл бұрын
Subscribed great video! Please review Subaru sti blown Ringlands
@XxmuncsterxX
@XxmuncsterxX 6 жыл бұрын
Keep this series up!
@MyBallsUrJaws
@MyBallsUrJaws 6 жыл бұрын
Man am I glad I didn't run out and get one of these. I really considered it! I have a Mazdaspeed 3 and this was the logical next step for me. Guess the Civic type R is still a possibility but I should probably wait till the problems are sussed out before really considering it also...
@jim6807
@jim6807 5 жыл бұрын
MyBallsUrJaws it’s already fixed man. Had the wrong head gasket from the mustang. I know lots of people who have both. RS is awesome. Go get one.
@bluex217
@bluex217 5 жыл бұрын
Check out a golf r for consideration too, they offer manual in the US now. Apr tuning renders monsters out of the audi/vw platforms
@SilverDelSol
@SilverDelSol 5 жыл бұрын
I bought a civic. Way better car than the golf. About the same at the straight line, but in corners its a totaly different monster!! + the golf is fuckin boring to loock at.
@Bc-um9qx
@Bc-um9qx 4 жыл бұрын
Is this basically the same engine that’s in the speed 3
@Snooker-cn3dm
@Snooker-cn3dm 6 жыл бұрын
Easy fix, just put gasoline into the cooling system.
@wf6951
@wf6951 5 жыл бұрын
Just put petrol on the entire car. FIFY.
@johnnyblaze1372
@johnnyblaze1372 5 жыл бұрын
@@wf6951 😂😂😂😂😂👍 better buy a Civic Typ r and this car will be running forever without any Probs😎
@getchasome6230
@getchasome6230 5 жыл бұрын
Gas in the coolant and run a 100 dry shot of nitrous.
@tonygant2448
@tonygant2448 5 жыл бұрын
Lol! This comment! A few years back when I was stationed in Turkey, a Humvee I was driving was low on coolant, I go to the storage spot where we keep extra coolant and fuel. Some dumb ass mislabeled the coolant can and I end up putting disel in the coolant 🙃
@MFKR696
@MFKR696 5 жыл бұрын
@@tonygant2448 How'd you like those Turks? Sketchy bunch, no? It's not racist if it's true lol. There are only two nations on this Earth that I despise. Turkey is one of them, and me being Canadian and all, I think you can guess the second one lol.
@FunkyShaf
@FunkyShaf 6 жыл бұрын
Any word on if this is an issue with early production RS models only? Has Ford revised anything for the 17 and 18 model years? Fantastic video btw, very interesting.
@Ultrabenbooyah
@Ultrabenbooyah 6 жыл бұрын
The engine and head design is flawed. Steam bubbles build up in the coolant lines around the turbo header (header is integrated into head, coolant loop is run around header to cool it), due to the bubbles cooling in this area is nearly non existent, then the head and block deform. No, there is nothing Ford can do apart from developing a new engine. They will just wait until warranty runs out and leave it to the aftermarket to come up with a solution.
@krazor8
@krazor8 6 жыл бұрын
FunkyShaf happened to my fiances at 12579 ish miles...
@daytonwhittle7592
@daytonwhittle7592 5 жыл бұрын
Got my recall this week 2019
@matthewguilford9340
@matthewguilford9340 5 жыл бұрын
Can u do this for the Lincoln mkx so we can get those fixed
@thomaspeterson8659
@thomaspeterson8659 6 жыл бұрын
410K views in a week. Good job,Alex!!
@jeremyniewinski4196
@jeremyniewinski4196 6 жыл бұрын
Do a video on my crappy 2013 Ford Fiesta transmission. Currently a Class Action Lawsuit going on in regards to it.
@coreymiceli9513
@coreymiceli9513 6 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Niewinski What is the problem with yours? I had a fiesta as a rental for full week few years ago and the transmission was jerky as hell.
@allclraerial
@allclraerial 5 жыл бұрын
Great vid, will be sharing with my brother who is currently starting his search for his RS. Also, ironic, the mid video ad, was a Ford ad stating, reliable this, and that. lol hilarious... (Ford fan here too)
@Sportek24
@Sportek24 4 жыл бұрын
What about fiesta st 2016 I haven't found any issues I'm still looking for any real problem can't find anything
@rippeddaniel
@rippeddaniel 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! It is cool to see stuff like that. I wish I these things would be pre checked by the companys.I had a lot of problems with my subaru sti 2.5L. The 2.5L has a lot of problems and they keep building it. Subaru should know this and do something on the engine.You have to do a lot of stuff by your own to prolong the life of your subaru engine.This could be also an interesting video for you to make. Thanks formthe good conten and best regards from germany
@JohnSmith-nl7td
@JohnSmith-nl7td 6 жыл бұрын
Ford cars are shit. My dad owned a 06 focus svt and it blew the motor at 130k miles stock. Similar issue just happened to my brothers 06 explorer a couple weeks ago at 160k miles. My 07 Cadillac CTS is running good at 190k and I push that thing hard. Never had a problem with a honda or a chevy. Chevy 350 small block is probably one of the best motors out there.
@yohan1902
@yohan1902 6 жыл бұрын
A good tune will help it, as well as an equal length header.
@MrAyybee2cold
@MrAyybee2cold 6 жыл бұрын
STI_fan subarus aka do you even ringland?
@brandonsinclair4180
@brandonsinclair4180 6 жыл бұрын
STI_fan well that's kinda what you get for putting highlighter on your rims
@rippeddaniel
@rippeddaniel 6 жыл бұрын
Brandon Sinclair I like colours on cars, doesn´t matter on what car ;-)
@mujjuman
@mujjuman 6 жыл бұрын
hey man thanks for doing the research and sharing with us. its so sad that the RS engine is poorly designed
@icebrew
@icebrew Жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell me what wheels are on this rs? I reverse image searched them but I still cant find them.
@mryony23able
@mryony23able 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info,👍
@leashrope
@leashrope 6 жыл бұрын
Good job. Keep up the good content. subbed.
@fusion01wp
@fusion01wp 6 жыл бұрын
452 bad ratings by *new* RS owners! Seriously though how can you not rate this highly?! Excellent stuff, well done for this expose. Even with part replacement who wants their engine torn apart on a fairly new car? I'm not in the market for an RS bit if I was I'd be thinking very carefully right about now about a possible purchase!!!!
@FrequencyOfThought
@FrequencyOfThought 6 жыл бұрын
If you had half a brain you would know almost any 4 banger turbo tuner car on the market all have had major fuckin issues all on their own. That's the reality. Don't buy a tiny little engine and shove a bunch of boost into and rod it and think it's going to be your daily driver. Now there are a lot of high mileage 4 banger tuner cars out there but most of them take care of it the right way as well.... You never know what the driver has done to the car either and will cry about it being someone else's fault when the shit breaks. Get used to it, buy a CTSV , pretty flawless drive train at it's insane hp levels, something you can beat on with confidence. A lot of brands released engines with porous blocks from the factory etc and didn't change it down the road, turbo seals leaking, transmissions exploding, head gaskets prematurely failing. I mean some of you have no fucking clue.
@TheMrSauers
@TheMrSauers 4 жыл бұрын
Wow! I’ve been with subaru for over 12 years and I wouldn’t expect this from Ford. We change every head gasket on every subaru we sell because it’s such an issue. This just blows my mind seeing the gaskets.
@JuanLopez-zg1ld
@JuanLopez-zg1ld 6 жыл бұрын
When the smokes coming out the exhaust.. “I’m actually kinda hungry” 😂 weed joke ?
@pr7606
@pr7606 6 жыл бұрын
Very descriptive video. Good job!
@keithjackson4985
@keithjackson4985 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Good video Sir. The main problem is post warranty coverage? Those design flaws are Inherent. Those fixes aren't going give you a reliable vehicle for the long term! I like them but if I spend 40grand it won't be for one of these! Type R or WRX!
@russellpeterson7548
@russellpeterson7548 5 жыл бұрын
My first new car was a Ford Escort Pony. After 27,000 miles the timing belt broke. Just got worse after that. When I asked the service manager if there was a known issue with the ignition coil (mine failed twice in 2 months shortly after the timing belt broke) he said... "you get what you pay for." I was 20 years old. I have not bought a Ford since then... and I have no plans to. I'm 52, BTW.
@Kylroyboi
@Kylroyboi 5 жыл бұрын
You should do an episode on the 5.7 hemi tick.
@cjdrives5037
@cjdrives5037 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Do a video on the GM ls7/ls9 valve guide/valve drop problem. A lot of destroyed Ls7 Corvette and Camaro engines out there.
@LegitStreetCars
@LegitStreetCars 6 жыл бұрын
Craig Ream Totally going to do that
@daevid21
@daevid21 6 жыл бұрын
Still the most reliable engine
@cjdrives5037
@cjdrives5037 6 жыл бұрын
David- Yes. The LS series, as a whole, is extremely reliable. But the ls7 (and possibly ls9) heads are considered time bombs by many owners.
@fmkidskater
@fmkidskater 6 жыл бұрын
The Ls7 suffers more
@jsquared1013
@jsquared1013 6 жыл бұрын
@David Stevenson Not for hard track use without numerous mods.
@MattChristie
@MattChristie 6 жыл бұрын
My 2015 EcoBoost Mustang has the same engine and it blew up at 4k miles. Had a few mods and my warranty was denied, had to pay out of pocket for a new engine. I highly recommend not tuning these motors, like he said in the video Ford is looking for reasons not to put a new engine in your car. Unless you can afford to buy a new motor don't believe what people say about key cycling and stuff to hide you had a tune.
@Revo2Evo
@Revo2Evo 6 жыл бұрын
Auto show and go Ford sucks enough said. How about the 1.6L in the old Fusions having problems? To the Chinese made getrag in the Mustang? Ford loves to cut corners and deny warranty work on top of fixing their bullshit problems. Lets also not forget about their shitty dual clutch automatic which is prone to failure aswell. Ecoboost engine is a pile of shit with turbos prone to failing too.
@francistheodorecatte
@francistheodorecatte 6 жыл бұрын
ah yes, the shitty dual clutch auto that you had to basically floor from a stop to keep the clutches from slipping and overheating.
@jaskdavis
@jaskdavis 6 жыл бұрын
2011 F-150 3.5TT EcoBoost V6 here with 85k miles. 1st gen 3.5TT and been tuned since 20K on a 93oct performance tune @ 20lbs peak boost. Stock is 12lbs and made 305whp, 367wtq, Tuned put down 407whp, 536wtq on pump gas. Daily drive on my tune and known issue was Oil blow by collecting in the intercooler so I drilled a 1/16" weep hole in the lowest spot and watched the blow by spray out until dry. Fingers crossed I make it to 100k :)
@Easterhands
@Easterhands 6 жыл бұрын
Just lovely that Ford discontinued the NA 3.7 for the eco :/
@MegaElkHunter1
@MegaElkHunter1 6 жыл бұрын
Devon Clancy they didn’t discontinue the N/A v6? They just came out with a new one. Look it up again bud.
@harrygaul4475
@harrygaul4475 5 жыл бұрын
The 1.9 liter engine that was in the Ford Escort was awesomely dependable (owned several of those cars) and it became the 2.0 liter engine that's in my 2001 Ford Escort and the Ford Focus. We got the extended warranty with our 2015 Ford Focus Titanium, and it has the 2.0 liter engine.
@jonathanellison9193
@jonathanellison9193 4 жыл бұрын
The issue same issue can be found on early mustang EcoBoosts. I'm currently replacing my headgasket at 37,000 miles
@savagekiller99
@savagekiller99 6 жыл бұрын
you live around Niles ?
@rjlind2807
@rjlind2807 6 жыл бұрын
great vid, Can't wait to see more like this. I'd be so pissed if I spent 40k on a car w/a issue like that. you know about the Jeep Grand Cherokee that killed Anton Yelchin?
@CarswithNash
@CarswithNash 5 жыл бұрын
Very interesting... I don’t think the updated head gaskets will do much better, they might need to detune them a little to solve the issue long term.
@ty2010
@ty2010 5 жыл бұрын
I got a used Escort that missed when cold, pulled plugs and one had coolant. I flushed the cooling system, dumped in 3 bottles of stop leak and drove it for 10 years.
@Themadscientist1969
@Themadscientist1969 4 жыл бұрын
But point was --shouldn't of had to do that..
@danquigley5528
@danquigley5528 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and I am glad I chose the CTR.
@jimmyvaught
@jimmyvaught 6 жыл бұрын
This is gold! Loved the intro.
@aaronhumphrey2009
@aaronhumphrey2009 5 жыл бұрын
You had me at mode five: blown head gasket mode 😂😲😞why, Ford, Why ?!
@enterthehunter7336
@enterthehunter7336 6 жыл бұрын
do you have anything on the transmission temperature issues of the 2006 Dodge Dakota or any Dodge with a 42rle transmission
@caioronnau5226
@caioronnau5226 6 жыл бұрын
just came across your channel. Very cool
@BCNeil
@BCNeil 6 жыл бұрын
Make a 350hp 4-banger.....then you can blame EVERYTHING on driver abuse.
@MJT-DA
@MJT-DA 5 жыл бұрын
Actually my friend abused the f out of his inline 4 d17a1 in his Honda civic yes it burned oil but it never stopped running. I see newer fords on the road waiting for tow trucks. Hell I rather own a chevy before a own I ford.
@jrag1000
@jrag1000 5 жыл бұрын
pretty much, beating the shit out of it.
@GenericAF123
@GenericAF123 5 жыл бұрын
Let me get this right. You sell a product and if you use this product to it’s fullest and it breaks it’s the the consumers fault? That’s sounds like ford logic. As a matter of fact I think it’s Honda’s fault😂
@James-ns6jm
@James-ns6jm 5 жыл бұрын
Not been funny but look at current F1 Engines. 1.6 liter V6 that kicks out over 700BHP. Ford has won alot in this. Ford won the world rally championship in the fiesta which gets as much hate as the RS does and the Fiesta only has a 1.6 litre engine. So is it so hard to believe that the 2.3 litre 4 pot engine can crank out 350HP? Iv'e seen Fiestas doing close to that with their 1.6 litre engines when modified. With alot around the 300HP mark with no problems. 300+ usually have to go forged though. It's people like you who have no clue about engines that post shit like you do. Only reason why the Evos and WRX were such great cars to modify was because they was over engineered being popular rally cars.
@James-ns6jm
@James-ns6jm 5 жыл бұрын
Also the problem was they took the 2.3 litre engine from the mustang and tried re-using it only to realise when they tried to re use the mustang head gasket it didn't properly seal. So they made new gaskets which is what they fit on the recall. The same 2.3 litre Ecoboost engine which will be in the new Mustang also
@jkinerk
@jkinerk 4 жыл бұрын
Please cover the debacle of the "glass differential" in the 2004-2007 Cadillac CTS-V. Starting from the beginning with wheel hop issues in press test drives, it only got worse from there. Some really crazy stories before performance daily drivers were really a thing.
@marduke83
@marduke83 4 жыл бұрын
It's not only the RS that has issues, the 1.0L, 1.5L and some 1.6L ecoboost engines all have issues. The only one I haven't really seen issues with is the 2.0L in the focus ST. We have done too many cylinder heads and replaced ecoboost engines to count.. The 1.5 has similar issues as the 2.3, but it also has a problem with the PCV system, where it ends up blowing oil straight into the intake manifold and the builds up on the spark plugs and valves (mainly cylinder 2 for some reason) and causes pre-detonation, and then engine damage... My old fiesta ST was the first and last ford I will ever own..
@Wvcountrykid
@Wvcountrykid Жыл бұрын
And that's why I have a focus st. Engine is more better and reliable 👌
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