The Forgotten Election that Changed the World.

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Jabzy

Jabzy

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@JabzyJoe
@JabzyJoe 3 жыл бұрын
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@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 3 жыл бұрын
How come I instantly knew what the election was for just by looking at the year 1519 without even seeing Henry the VIII in the thumbnail?
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 3 жыл бұрын
You did have to be a king though to be crowned emperor.
@sukhmanrehal4957
@sukhmanrehal4957 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do one about the sikhs
@BB-hx4mj
@BB-hx4mj 3 жыл бұрын
Well, when it comes to Polish elections the very first was one of most interesting, while the last election shows how week the PLC was at its end.
@glointhadark
@glointhadark 3 жыл бұрын
Germany was one of the most democratic countries in medieval Europe. There were seven people who could vote. How progressive!
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 3 жыл бұрын
Poland would allow about 500 thousand people to vote in 1573, and about 40 thousand would show up to actually do it.
@prestonjones1653
@prestonjones1653 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertjarman3703 Slunds about right. People by and large won't go out of their way to do anything unless you hold them at gunpoint.
@isakkallsmyr9854
@isakkallsmyr9854 3 жыл бұрын
That's 6 more than most other european countries at the time
@adamrozsa9923
@adamrozsa9923 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the Papal States had more people voting on the next ruler.
@sualtam9509
@sualtam9509 3 жыл бұрын
@Luís Andrade Well about any country had a diet. The medieval period is far more democratic than most people think.
@srash8854
@srash8854 3 жыл бұрын
Charles obviously just spammed Influence Nation and Send Gift on the electors. France got jelly because they couldn't do that.
@michaelpothoven1041
@michaelpothoven1041 3 жыл бұрын
Ah a fellow man of culture I see
@Daniel-jm7ts
@Daniel-jm7ts 3 жыл бұрын
@@nekhlioudovbolkonsky2901 that inflation doe 😳
@disparatebroom7705
@disparatebroom7705 3 жыл бұрын
Really? I thought he was just spamming gift whilst also l trying to keep using “improve relations”
@coreysmithson4002
@coreysmithson4002 3 жыл бұрын
The election is also known as "The election of Chuck, Hank, and Frank"
@theoldsaxon6484
@theoldsaxon6484 3 жыл бұрын
This...
@theoldsaxon6484
@theoldsaxon6484 3 жыл бұрын
Is...
@theoldsaxon6484
@theoldsaxon6484 3 жыл бұрын
*GOLD*
@lliamreusser4534
@lliamreusser4534 3 жыл бұрын
the fact that the swiss were considered separate from the foot and the horse really shows how powerful they were
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
no they were listed separately because they were located in a different place preparing to fight a different enemy
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 жыл бұрын
@@plasmakitten4261 And because they were hired mercenaries, as opposed to imperial or ducal troops ....
@pikeshotBattles
@pikeshotBattles 3 жыл бұрын
Anything that's about Charles V has to be interesting.
@omkarchakraborty1739
@omkarchakraborty1739 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@omkarchakraborty1739
@omkarchakraborty1739 3 жыл бұрын
btw subscribed
@207tex
@207tex 3 жыл бұрын
Chinresting
@AbrahamLincoln4
@AbrahamLincoln4 3 жыл бұрын
Like his chin. Look at that! He should go for the world series.
@riograndedosulball248
@riograndedosulball248 3 жыл бұрын
Dude was the über gigachad of his time
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns 3 жыл бұрын
Seems the Holy Roman Empire missed a bullet to the head by not electing Henry VIII.
@user_____M
@user_____M 3 жыл бұрын
How so?
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns
@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns 3 жыл бұрын
@@user_____M A paranoid, narcissistic, megalomaniacal, tyrant as the most powerful man in Europe, it would be Hitler or Napoleon the prequel.
@scorpionfiresome3834
@scorpionfiresome3834 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns He’s not a cartoon villain, he’s not as bad as people make him out to be.
@icecold1805
@icecold1805 3 жыл бұрын
@@scorpionfiresome3834 he was, by the time of this election he had fallen into dementia
@Brams2777
@Brams2777 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fiddling_while_Rome_burns One of those two is so so much worse than the other.
@GarfieldRex
@GarfieldRex 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for the bribe mechanic in EU4, but can't find it
@Ramschat
@Ramschat 3 жыл бұрын
Just donate duckats directly to the electors to raise opinion, and you can become Emperor. So yeah, it actually works really well xD
@Barwasser
@Barwasser 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ramschat If you are spending 50.000 Ducats on each elector, you are doing it wrong ;-P Cap is at +25 opinion...
@Razgriz032
@Razgriz032 3 жыл бұрын
Influence nation, pay off debts, subsidies, and gift is just bribe bruh
@MisterSpinalzo
@MisterSpinalzo 3 жыл бұрын
@@Razgriz032 or just bestow imperial grace if you have the imperial authority to spare
@DanielGalimidi
@DanielGalimidi 3 жыл бұрын
5:50 "Had it worked, it would have united Christendom against the advances of the Ottomans". Yeah, about that... Francis I was so not down with Charles V being Holy Roman Emperor, that he signed a Franco-Ottoman alliance with Suleiman the Magnificent against Charles. Suleiman helped Francis during his military campaigns against the Habsburgs. So the idea of "Christendom" uniting against the existential threat of the Muslim Ottoman sultanate just didn't happen at all.
@samueljay4632
@samueljay4632 3 жыл бұрын
Rather Turkish than Papist.
@riograndedosulball248
@riograndedosulball248 3 жыл бұрын
France allied with enemies of the pope all the time, like the swedes and ottomans during the 30 years war. The french kings cared about anything but faith, unless they could profit from it
@samueljay4632
@samueljay4632 3 жыл бұрын
@@riograndedosulball248 The Turks weren’t involved in the 30 Years War, but the French did ally with the Protestant princes of the Empire.
@Epicrandomness1111
@Epicrandomness1111 3 жыл бұрын
Tbf, holy leagues and United Christendoms (not including everyone) did happen both just before and well after this particular attempt.
@ivanboston8582
@ivanboston8582 3 жыл бұрын
@@samueljay4632 they were indirectly... they had an accord with Frederick V and paid for or lent about 40k horse; not to mention the war with Poland was to draw forces away from reinforcing the Catholics.
@ricardoguanipa8275
@ricardoguanipa8275 3 жыл бұрын
I was Born in Maracaibo, venezuela, just imagining a "Maracucho" cursing in German is quite amusing
@jjgf8412
@jjgf8412 3 жыл бұрын
Y por donde andas ahora Ricardo? Todavía en Venezuela?
@ervandrafadhlil403
@ervandrafadhlil403 3 жыл бұрын
Charles is like every EUIV player ever who just spam influence and gifts at the electors until your country went in debt
@aleksandarvil5718
@aleksandarvil5718 3 жыл бұрын
2016 & 2020 : *We are THE MOST Important Elections Years* 1519 : *Hold My Beer*
@F22onblockland
@F22onblockland 3 жыл бұрын
Charles V: I love ⁽ᴮʳᶦᵇᵉʳʸ⁾ Democracy!
@bertchintus4103
@bertchintus4103 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man. When I see a random KZfaq video recommended to me that discusses anything about the HRE, I like the video and subscribe to the channel. Bravo!
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 3 жыл бұрын
Answering the question at the end, I think that the first Polish-Lithuanian free royal election of 1573 was the most interesting among them, while it was a mess and the choice of Henri de Valois didn't turn out as expected, the creation of the unique political system of the Commonwealth was finalized during it and the Warsaw Confederation made religious tolerance a law. Plus, it was quickly followed by the second election in 1576, won by our best elected King - Stephen Bathory (and the two could be potentially combined in one video). Edit: However, not even I am so obsessed with the PLC to seriously consider any of its elections to be the "greatest of all time". :)
@sebastianpijov8708
@sebastianpijov8708 3 жыл бұрын
One Polish king tried to change the elections so that they occur before the king died( essentially choosing an heir), but was unable to pass the vote.
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianpijov8708 Yes, several kings liked the idea of the election vivente rege, as it was cancelled. John Casimir Vasa (Jan Kazimierz Waza) was the one who seriously pushed for it, but it was so unpopular that it led to a civil war and was eventually dropped.
@jameskenny8821
@jameskenny8821 3 жыл бұрын
Been a while since I've seen your channel, wow you've changed your style. I remember waiting daily your world trip with travel history blogs, good to see you're getting a big piece of the youtube pie .
@julsjuls53
@julsjuls53 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t Charles still have inherited of Austria even if he lost the election as Maximilian was his grandfather? The title didn’t come with any land.
@Isewein
@Isewein 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, precisely. Was disappointed he didn't clarify that.
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 3 жыл бұрын
Yes and probably would have eventually become emperor anyway, either by the next election or by launching a civil war
@iirainey
@iirainey 3 жыл бұрын
I like how you included Sigismund's weird little teeth in your drawing.
@JonBastian
@JonBastian 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the new formant, Jabzy!
@theepicone1
@theepicone1 3 жыл бұрын
Jabzy mate! I know words mean little in the scheme of things but the moment I become re-employed I'm signing up something significant to your patreon. The topics you cover are so bizzare, interesting, and well researched. Kudos kudos kudos. As far as interesting elections go, I'd say that held by the Confederacy and the election of Sun Yat sen in 1911 would be ripe topics.
@ReynaSingh
@ReynaSingh 3 жыл бұрын
Keep up the good content 🙏
@ComedyJakob
@ComedyJakob 3 жыл бұрын
I really much prefer these longer videos. Please keep it up!
@alexandrumazalu1697
@alexandrumazalu1697 3 жыл бұрын
It would be great if you wiil make a video about the election for the Polish throne from 1574-1576, which was attended by Stephen Bathory and emperor Ferdinand the Second. Many thanks for your quality content!
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
@CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah more elections, thats what we all want. JK love the video.
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 3 жыл бұрын
You should see how it is on my end.
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
@CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow Oh yeah but you’ll have lots of material for your election series
@SamAronow
@SamAronow 3 жыл бұрын
@@CivilWarWeekByWeek In addition, my party is the only party holding primaries for the leadership (last week) and the party list (tomorrow; whoever gets the most votes gets a higher spot, except for the leader and her personal faves. Everybody chooses five and I've gotten my five locked down). And we're choosing a new President in June. And the Palestinian Authority is holding elections as well.
@CivilWarWeekByWeek
@CivilWarWeekByWeek 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamAronow Things are looking busy over there especially with the PA legislative elections. Here is to better results than 06
@TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN
@TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN 3 жыл бұрын
The recent US election has convinced me that elections are a joke anyway
@michalispachitis9941
@michalispachitis9941 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic content! New sub right here. Keep up the good work🙂
@rocknrollkid90
@rocknrollkid90 3 жыл бұрын
Can you do, "The Overthrow of Slobodan Milosevic (2000)?"
@njb1126
@njb1126 3 жыл бұрын
Chuck hank and frank form an alliance to combat the growing power of Ulm
@VictorianTimeTraveler
@VictorianTimeTraveler 3 жыл бұрын
Summon the elector counts! (epic music plays in the background)
@robertjarman3703
@robertjarman3703 3 жыл бұрын
As for other elections, try 59 BCE when Caesar became consul for the first time. It gave him that power, conflict with Cato and the other senators, the land reform bill that helped to shift loyalties, drove up the populares in Rome in political fortunes for the intervening decade until Caesar returned that made Rome even more unstable than when Caesar had left, made Bibulus an obstructionist leading Caesar to do illegal actions prompting him to do anything to retain imperium and immunity from prosecution motivating his crossing of the Rubicon, and gave Caesar the three provinces with which to do the latter.
@sebastianpijov8708
@sebastianpijov8708 3 жыл бұрын
And made Clodius tribune of the plebs, despite not being a pleb.
@tivolidream9655
@tivolidream9655 3 жыл бұрын
I love this new look!
@fakeplaystore7991
@fakeplaystore7991 3 жыл бұрын
"Diet of Worms" Ewwww, gross.
@concept5631
@concept5631 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed.
@lynnixvarjo9150
@lynnixvarjo9150 3 жыл бұрын
😂
@samueljay4632
@samueljay4632 3 жыл бұрын
1697 Polish-Lithuanian royal election is the GOAT election, you should cover it.
@TheSeekerNFT
@TheSeekerNFT 3 жыл бұрын
great video, just one thing though. Can you switch the layer order of the book and lamp? Once I saw that, I couldn't look at anything else! Sorry, old graphic designer habits, but you got a like!
@themccarthyproject8654
@themccarthyproject8654 3 жыл бұрын
Great video
@greenbutter3190
@greenbutter3190 3 жыл бұрын
Stable video 👍
@krzysztofmichniewicz6247
@krzysztofmichniewicz6247 3 жыл бұрын
You could make a video about Election of Maximilian Habsburg and Sigmund III on Polish throne. Especially about "seccond tour" of those election.
@jdfullerton5187
@jdfullerton5187 3 жыл бұрын
Summon the elector counts
@misskonaxia
@misskonaxia 3 жыл бұрын
If francis I became holy roman emperor, it would probably recreate the carolignian empire
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
Well, not really, that would have required more centralization reforms to actually reunite the HRE into one polity, which even Austria couldn't manage in real life largely because of the Reformation. I don't see how France could have done a better job of stopping the Reformation than Austria, given Austria's infamously superior diplomacy.
@FreddyBarbarossa
@FreddyBarbarossa 3 жыл бұрын
@Louis Garidel France already had the right to tax church lands, so support for breaking with the Church among French elites was much less than in German lands.
@zeljkoviskic1041
@zeljkoviskic1041 3 жыл бұрын
It wasn't Maximilian who said that bit about Austria gaining kingdoms by marriage while others had to wage war. It was actually Mathias Corvinus, the king of Hungary who said it, or to be more precise: Bella gerant alii, tu felix Austria nube, nam que Mars aliis, dat tibi regna Venus.
@aeternitasromae
@aeternitasromae 3 жыл бұрын
What music do you use?
@lmaozedong7007
@lmaozedong7007 3 жыл бұрын
I fw the longer videos
@TechnicalHydra
@TechnicalHydra 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@CooperDianeBob
@CooperDianeBob 3 жыл бұрын
The TV series Carlos, Rey emperador show a little bit of this although a little like a soap opera
@696190
@696190 3 жыл бұрын
*soap opera
@kolerick
@kolerick 3 жыл бұрын
alternate history: François Ier elected Emperor... PR: we are reuniting the empire of Carolus Magnus! winning move...
@nestorfernandezmichelena9156
@nestorfernandezmichelena9156 3 жыл бұрын
Charles I von Habsburg !
@naasiroow
@naasiroow 3 жыл бұрын
At 0:03 did anyone else hear "who would inherit the titan"?
@ayyelemayo7390
@ayyelemayo7390 3 жыл бұрын
STOP THE COUNT!
@andrefalksmen1264
@andrefalksmen1264 3 жыл бұрын
Stop the steal; Henry was cheated!
@sirgreggorygroda
@sirgreggorygroda 3 жыл бұрын
He wasn't a count, he was a king! Sorry, I'll see my self out...
@Emanon...
@Emanon... 3 жыл бұрын
Bribes & Brides
@DaisyGeekyTransGirl
@DaisyGeekyTransGirl 2 жыл бұрын
The split vote by Henry makes sense. At the time he was still known as the generous king and he really viewed Charles as an ally.
@unisangalaxystudio
@unisangalaxystudio Жыл бұрын
I wish you can do a What if Henry VIII was pick, we would then have control have England, all of the HRE from Germany to Italy you can do one where after Henry VIII
@Fabian-iw1qz
@Fabian-iw1qz 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me the title of the background music?
@James-sk4db
@James-sk4db 3 жыл бұрын
Sure it’s: Darude Sandstorm
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 2 жыл бұрын
Charles was German as understood in those days, he was absolutely educated in Flemish (Dutch) culture and so was his entourage (a reason why he faced a major revolt in Castile, where he was despised as foreigner tyrant). Also Spain did not exist. It was invented in 1808 by Napoleon Bonaparte.
@morganmcallister2001
@morganmcallister2001 2 жыл бұрын
Dang. That means most Spanish colonies in the Americas were only Spanish for 2 years before rebelling.
@LuisAldamiz
@LuisAldamiz 2 жыл бұрын
@@morganmcallister2001 - Legally speaking yes, of course "Spanish" may also mean "Iberian" (original meaning) or "of the Spanish Crown" (usual meaning). Actually, if you take the anti-Bonapartista stand, they'd never be technically Spanish at all, except the belated ones like Peru, because the Cortes de Cádiz only adopted the constitution that, imitating Napoleon, had "Spain" in its text, in 1812, one year after the uprisings began.
@ThePetro
@ThePetro 2 жыл бұрын
Great material, but Austria was not for the grabs, even if Charles lost the election. It was a hereditary land, still under HRE obviously, but not the part of the election title. I also doubt Henry could have won.
@patrickcummins79
@patrickcummins79 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a Mess.. idfk wtf any of wat u just said, but I did read a book about Charles v, years ago, and I had seen the Tudors, so I kinda picked up wtf is going on.
@BlizzardofKnives
@BlizzardofKnives 3 жыл бұрын
They don't do them like they used to.
@tsar389
@tsar389 3 ай бұрын
The Greatest election had to be the 1877 between Hayes and Tilden. It resulted in the end of reconstruction and the beginnings of the Jim Crow era for the South. This election was super polarizing and nearly caused another civil war.
@aktuellyattee8265
@aktuellyattee8265 9 ай бұрын
Didn't watch the video, but I don't think he's talking about the 2016 election.
@marygebbie6611
@marygebbie6611 3 жыл бұрын
Me, a bird: Mmm...Diet of Worms...
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 жыл бұрын
Pronounced very differently than the English word of similar spelling ...
@mirzaahmed6589
@mirzaahmed6589 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine people in 2521 making videos about our elections today.
@Veriox22
@Veriox22 3 жыл бұрын
Imteresting
@cuthbert6445
@cuthbert6445 Жыл бұрын
The greatest election of all time has to be the third election of Franklin Deleanor Roosevelt. He was the most important western politician of the 20th century who at the time wasn't sure if he should run for a third term. But if Roosevelt hadn't been elected for that third term then the soviet union may have lost to Nazi Germany and/or Stalin could have ended up in total control of the entirety of Europe. It's all alternative history so nobody knows for sure.
@williammulligan1416
@williammulligan1416 3 жыл бұрын
if henry got the crown uk would probably be extremely powerful nowadays
@Ptaku93
@Ptaku93 3 жыл бұрын
yeah naah
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
UK was extremely powerful. Ultimately no European state except maybe Russia was ever going to be extremely powerful in today's world, given the World Wars it was always going to be the US, or maybe Mexico if they won the Mexican-American War, that became the world superpower. And China has been a world superpower for almost all of history so yeah.
@ZigZag-mw9ir
@ZigZag-mw9ir 3 жыл бұрын
You know the British Empire was the largest empire to exist right? The moment Britain was no longer attached to the mainland they did not have to worry about the affairs of Europe like the 30 years war which saved them a lot of trouble.
@alberpajares4792
@alberpajares4792 3 жыл бұрын
This is not democratic, this is legal..,
@acolyte1951
@acolyte1951 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if there are any but maybe there was some interesting election in ancient greece or rome
@synkkamaan1331
@synkkamaan1331 3 жыл бұрын
P'rhaps not. Becoming involved in every single war involving the HRE could have drained England of money, resources, and soldiers.
@acolyte1951
@acolyte1951 3 жыл бұрын
@@synkkamaan1331 I think you replied to the wrong comment
@synkkamaan1331
@synkkamaan1331 3 жыл бұрын
@@acolyte1951 You are very correct sir
@seneca983
@seneca983 3 жыл бұрын
Another comment mentions the first time Caesar was elected consul.
@kingdonaltron
@kingdonaltron 3 жыл бұрын
We all still know the greatest election of all time was 2016. Nobody: Jeb: "My mom is the strongest woman ik" Trump: "She should be the one running"
@5thMilitia
@5thMilitia 3 жыл бұрын
Charles V: the most powerfull monarch from the Netherlands
@HateTaxesWASt
@HateTaxesWASt 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he was from Belgium
@5thMilitia
@5thMilitia 3 жыл бұрын
@@HateTaxesWASt The Netherlands is the name for the whole region, but we now have the Dutch Netherlands and the Belgian Netherlands
@HateTaxesWASt
@HateTaxesWASt 3 жыл бұрын
@@5thMilitia I didn't know that, thanks!
@positroll7870
@positroll7870 3 жыл бұрын
@@5thMilitia Yet at the time they both were part of the Kingdom of the Germans (and thus the HRE), so claiming he wasnt born in Germany is a bit misleading ...
@5thMilitia
@5thMilitia 3 жыл бұрын
@@positroll7870 Well, he wasn't born in a German speaking region. Dutch and French were his native languages. But yes, you could find good arguments for both statements
@jeffreymiller9438
@jeffreymiller9438 3 жыл бұрын
You should double check your dates for Charles V. What are the dates under his name intended to show? 1506-1555 are the years he was 'Lord of the Netherlands'...is that what you wanted to show?
@j.d.5626
@j.d.5626 2 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure Charles could speak german by the time of his coronation. After all he used to speak german to his horse all the time.
@raiolar8182
@raiolar8182 3 жыл бұрын
do i hear a welsh accent?
@infini_ryu9461
@infini_ryu9461 2 жыл бұрын
"Austria had secured power in Burgundy and Castile." EU4 players: "This is where the fun begins."
@gammamaster1894
@gammamaster1894 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh imagine if Henry VIII got elected as HRE
@nicbahtin4774
@nicbahtin4774 3 жыл бұрын
can foreign kings just run for the HRE ?
@Orthanderis
@Orthanderis 3 жыл бұрын
Basically, yeah. The official title before coronation by the pope was King of the Romans, before that it was King of the Franks. It was defacto a successor state to Rome established by the Pope because of conflict with the Pentarch of Constantinople, who had huge sway over the Byzantine Emperor, known at the time as the Western Roman Emperor, and since the Eastern Roman Empire had fallen, it was defacto the Roman Empire. Long story short, Charlemagne created a huge kingdom and the pope wanted protection and power it wasn't getting from the ERE, so he broke with tradition and created a second Roman Empire based in France. Sometime later the kingdom split into three, then two, France and the HRE. The goal was, in essence, to reestablish the Roman Empire, and since all of west/central Europe were Roman at one point as long as you were Catholic, rich, and powerful enough to buy the title, you could, In theory. In practise, though, from 1400-1750 it was always owned by a Habsburg.
@nicbahtin4774
@nicbahtin4774 3 жыл бұрын
@@Orthanderis why is it elective, and not why all states voted. what does it even do as the emperor doesn't even has any authority over the other members of the HRE. i say it's better to be an elector like Prussia that through concessions for it's vote got enough power to de facto unite Germany
@cryed0
@cryed0 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicbahtin4774 keep in mind that the history of the hre is extremely vast, lasting around 900 years. At the beginning, it was a centralized empire. At the end, it was decentralized to the point where the emperor could exert no power over any of the other states in the hre. Also, there were literally hundreds of states who existed in the hre, so they basically decided to let the strongest and largest states vote
@Orthanderis
@Orthanderis 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicbahtin4774 Long story short, it was the solution to a problem where Germany was split between 5 powerful dutchys, and the kingdom had no legitimate heir, nor did they want to give the land to the French. They were, however, all related, and sometime previously one of the duchys was deposed through election, showing that rulers can be chosen legitimately with the support of other nobles. So they just voted between themselves and the vote gave them the legitimacy they needed to be Holy Roman Emperor. Then the guy chosen died pretty quick, so they elected someone else, and it became tradition so nobody got too powerful. As far as the electors goes there was generally 3 spiritual electors and 4, later 6, secular electors. The secular ones were hereditary and are mostly made up of the successor states from the original 5 duchys, families, or traditional lands. Mostly. The religious ones are generally important spiritual leaders anyways who are elected into the elector position, and was probably implemented to give the pope a degree of control over the Holy Roman Emperor.
@nicbahtin4774
@nicbahtin4774 3 жыл бұрын
@@Orthanderis What about the rest of the HRE what stops them from lets say the italian states to elect their own emperor
@seneca983
@seneca983 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the Polish elections, I guess the one in 1733 was pretty dramatic because a succession war followed it.
@Andreas-ww5eg
@Andreas-ww5eg 3 жыл бұрын
It was more of a title instead of an position with power behind it. Charles either way would become Archduke of Austria, Duke of Burgundy and the Low Countries.
@CG-eh6oe
@CG-eh6oe 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly! People always forget how unimportant rulers were in medivial times. There were empires by name, but only a few areas were actually controlled. And for the HRE, this was turned up to 11.
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
It did have power behind it, in that you could mess with all the other HRE states, force them to return any land they took from each other, decide who the electors were if one ever needed to be changed, etc. you just weren't actually ruling over all of that land by any stretch, although Austria tried really hard to reform the HRE towards working like that and was mainly stopped from doing so by the Reformation.
@rodgark77
@rodgark77 3 жыл бұрын
Charles V was Maximilian's grandson I think, he was no foreing
@stephanaugust1101
@stephanaugust1101 3 жыл бұрын
Lowlands are basically german, they would not have been considers foreign land...
@seneca983
@seneca983 3 жыл бұрын
But did change the world for the better or for the worse?
@gododoof
@gododoof 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@5thMilitia
@5thMilitia 3 жыл бұрын
For the berse
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
Everything that happened back then changed the world for the worse, or in an unmeasurable way. The first definitely good thing that happened in Europe was the French Revolution.
@gododoof
@gododoof 3 жыл бұрын
@@plasmakitten4261 That's ridiculous, so much of what the French Revolution was founded on depended on events that preceded it. The French Revolution did not pull Enlightenment ideas out of thin air.
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
@@gododoof I never said that, I just said that the French Revolution was the first good thing, as in a single event that could could put as one point on a timeline.
@jamesblackshaw132
@jamesblackshaw132 3 жыл бұрын
King of the Romans yet Germany was probably only country not ruled by Rome also the Germanic tribes destroyed Rome sonitvis surprising for me they would do this
@andrefalksmen1264
@andrefalksmen1264 3 жыл бұрын
Roman in political sense, but not really....just a name, Rome being the spiritual heartland.
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
this is 1000 years after all of that and the HRE did originally include Rome but yeah it's pretty silly
@RaidsEpicly
@RaidsEpicly 3 жыл бұрын
I wish all the history youtubers didn't do the whole "animated character that represents them" thing. I might be alone but it makes their content hard to watch. At least there's no lip syncing here at least....
@JabzyJoe
@JabzyJoe 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a big fan of it either, but I also dislike myself on camera. I Should be getting that in next month. The lip-synching I mean with an animated character. I just did a relaunch and to be quite honest with you, I don't have the resources or skill to pull off much better at the minute.
@RaidsEpicly
@RaidsEpicly 3 жыл бұрын
@@JabzyJoe Totally fair, and I can see why it seems like a better choice vs doing an in person video. But imo there are other visual aids you can use instead for the video, even if you sometimes linger on them for longer than you'd ideally prefer. But I do realize doing those right can be a lot more work+time consuming as well
@JabzyJoe
@JabzyJoe 3 жыл бұрын
@@RaidsEpicly ​ Well with this, this was supposed to be like the side project to the main ones covering 1st hand sources (life in Angkor Wat, Prison ship etc.). So most work on art was put into them and this was just to fill in gaps in the schedule. However, weirdly, they get next to no views, while these have become a lot more popular than expected. So I didn't really put much thought into them at all, but now completely have to rethink everything. So I totally get they're not great.
@WythenshawePhil
@WythenshawePhil 3 жыл бұрын
Are you Hilbert? You sound like him.
@seneca983
@seneca983 3 жыл бұрын
No, he's Joe.
@AbrahamLincoln4
@AbrahamLincoln4 3 жыл бұрын
So taboo to heard that Elections were taking place during the late medieval times. DEMOCRACY.
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
My man's never been to the Netherlands
@seneca983
@seneca983 3 жыл бұрын
7 people could vote! That's not nothing!
@1911Zoey
@1911Zoey 3 жыл бұрын
Remember Abraham, Rome was a republic before my buddy Octavian took over. Local elections were still a thing though. The title of the Princeps or "first citizen of Rome" is reserved for what we now consider as Emperor.
@NathanDudani
@NathanDudani 3 жыл бұрын
@@seneca983 7 isn't rule of the people
@alexanderauersperg5149
@alexanderauersperg5149 2 жыл бұрын
Greatest election is 2016 MAGA
@CG-eh6oe
@CG-eh6oe 3 жыл бұрын
"This meant that whoever won the election would unite their country with all of germany and austria". Im very sorry, but i wont watch the rest of the video after that opening. Thats just wrong. First, "Germany" is a weird term when talking about the HRE. Germany would not exist for several hundered years. Second and more importantly, the Emperor did NOT control the territory of the HRE. Control was more local, mainly confederacies, Ducies and clerics.
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
I mean things were quite clearly headed in that direction as they had been in the past, it was only the Reformation and eventually the Napoleonic Wars that prevented the HRE from reuniting to form Germany. Meaning that Prussia ended up having to do it the old-fashioned way.
@CG-eh6oe
@CG-eh6oe 3 жыл бұрын
@@plasmakitten4261 uhm what? The only direction the HRE was going in the 14th-17th century was downwards. There were several wars between its members and centralized control was inexistent rather than weak. In the 17th century, there were even debates among scholars about which areas were and were not part of the "empire". Imagine! An empire so weak beeing part of it is a philosophical question!
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
@@CG-eh6oe The low point of the empire was probably during the 14th century for sure, before the Eternal Peace. But there had already been internal wars allowed for a long time since the Carolingian Empire fell apart, and centralized control was pretty much nonexistent before 1495, when it began to have a resurgence and could have pulled back to be a united polity if the centralization reforms continued to be passed. And there were debates about what was and wasn't part of the empire pretty much since the decentralization centuries ago, since if the empire was composed of member states there wasn't any one clearly defined "border", meaning that there was no de facto HRE territory, only a de jure territory, which is always a subject of argument.
@CG-eh6oe
@CG-eh6oe 3 жыл бұрын
How does the fact that the HRE had been instable for centuries somehow validate the point the video makes - which was that whoever was emperor would control the territory? You are right in saying that there were attempts to centralize it, but attempts of control dont make an empire, only factual control does so.
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
@@CG-eh6oe I didn't say they controlled the territories, just that they were headed in that direction. I agree with your original comment.
@AAA999XYZ
@AAA999XYZ 3 жыл бұрын
Your animation is bad. 1:33 to 1:36 what is that even?
@evvec1490
@evvec1490 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine not commenting: ""“Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZfaq is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZfaq is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Halo" "Devil may cry" “KZfaq is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” “Cocomelon” “t series” “Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZfaq is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Metal Gear Rising Revengeance" "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Pokemon cards" "card unboxing" "Charizard" "they don't want you to know" "Flat earth" "round earth" "triangle earth" "the earth is not earth" "what even is earth if not earth omg government is lying to you" "Minecraft" "ASMR" "pewdiepie" "music" "Fortnite" "markiplier" “KZfaq is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” "Runescape" "World of Warcraft" "Shadowlands" "Dream" "MrBeast" "Warzone" "FaZe Clan" "100 Thieves" "Call of Duty" "Pokemon" "Halo" "Devil may cry" “KZfaq is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.” “Cocomelon” “t series
@AbrahamLincoln4
@AbrahamLincoln4 3 жыл бұрын
The papal system is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits.
@evvec1490
@evvec1490 3 жыл бұрын
@@AbrahamLincoln4 ye
@yezdanus
@yezdanus 3 жыл бұрын
jobst dies in 1410 after getting elected? maan!!! you have just spoiled kingdom come deliverance 2... don't do this again...
@plasmakitten4261
@plasmakitten4261 3 жыл бұрын
hey, you don't know if Kingdom Come Deliverance 2 is historically accurate, it might not end up being a spoiler...
@seneca983
@seneca983 3 жыл бұрын
Here's another spoiler: Titanic sinks.
@alejandrobolanos4655
@alejandrobolanos4655 2 жыл бұрын
Your topics are interesting but the narration and voice puts me to sleep immediately
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