The Forgotten Shows of Disney Plus

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captainmidnight

captainmidnight

Жыл бұрын

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Disney Plus is one of the biggest streamers in the world, but it has some trouble launching shows not based on their biggest properties. In this video I go over shows they've canceled so far and what they can tell us about the state of Disney.
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@captainmidnight
@captainmidnight Жыл бұрын
Do you think Disney+ should try to make more original shows and rely less on Marvel and Star Wars? See my videos ad free at nebula.tv/captainmidnight
@bennyweb6378
@bennyweb6378 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@sjmhadsock4586
@sjmhadsock4586 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@rogueguardian
@rogueguardian Жыл бұрын
For sure 👍
@j.b.c.a.
@j.b.c.a. Жыл бұрын
If they manage to get all the Hulu stuff on Disney+ (like in Europe) that'd directly solve that problem.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Yes they should
@cancerino666
@cancerino666 Жыл бұрын
Removing content from a streaming service is non-sensical. It costs them nothing to keep them there. They could just have a category for abandoned stuff they don't want to highlight because they might think its not good enough. Like, "The Archives". Or something.
@darthamalgamation1447
@darthamalgamation1447 Жыл бұрын
They probably had to pay residuals to people involved with the show for as long as the show was on the service. They're probably trying to cut costs.
@cancerino666
@cancerino666 Жыл бұрын
@@darthamalgamation1447 if that's the case, then it's a problem on how the contracts were written. residuals could be based off viewership.
@G-LukeJA
@G-LukeJA Жыл бұрын
@Failingpepper 11 but isn't that the reason why they removed all those animated series on HBOMAX
@LightPink
@LightPink Жыл бұрын
@Failingpepper 11 hemlock grove is from 2013, euphoria is from 2019, one is Netflix the other is HBO.
@Paulxl
@Paulxl Жыл бұрын
​@@cancerino666 You don't make any money from viewership in streaming tho.
@adrianarias-hernandez7472
@adrianarias-hernandez7472 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, Disney should focus on more original animated content in a similar vein to The Owl House and Amphibia in which it prioritizes story driven plots.
@mimismsx
@mimismsx Жыл бұрын
I agree! I only watch their animated content, I don't even browse through their live-action content because it's not even half as good as their animated things.
@onepresence9460
@onepresence9460 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. My favorite Disney content are the animated ones. They have a lot of potential.
@negressprincess
@negressprincess Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t look like they will be doing that anymore.
@MattGOnYT
@MattGOnYT Жыл бұрын
Especially since Disney+ is where shows like The Owl House have been thriving. The Owl House was cancelled for being too mature and having an older target audience than other Disney shows, but shows with similar traits like Clone Wars were huge hits for Disney+
@racionador
@racionador Жыл бұрын
surprised me disney is not doing that already, i wonder how much better shows like amphibia and owl house would do if they were on disney+ from the begnning
@BugsyFoga
@BugsyFoga Жыл бұрын
Its definitely ashame that Disney canned the lizzie McGuire revival like that, cause if the icarly revival was possible it could definitely of worked.
@EChacon
@EChacon Жыл бұрын
Even it doesn't help that the original heads at Disney+ decided to move _Love, Victor_ from Disney+ to Hulu cause from their POV they thought it was to edgy on Disney+, yet they had the Marvel, Star Wars, Nat Geo and the Simpsons content which were in the TV-14/PG-13 rating so it was a double standard reasoning.
@poisonedyoyo
@poisonedyoyo Жыл бұрын
It's not about it working. Disney has a brand to uphold. There was once going to be a procession where all the Disney princesses were pushing strollers at Disney World but the concept was scrapped because someone pointed out that this would imply that the princesses had sex, and Disney doesn't want to do that. They probably wouldn't care NOW, in 2022, with their ridiculous gromming efforts, but back then they didn't, and taking a pre/early teen like Lizzie McGuire and showing a birth scene of her in her thirties, yeah, no, thanks. I haven't seen it but since Raven's Home airs on Disney Channel, I'd say that's more the direction they should've gone with Lizzie McGuire, only there is one caveat to that, they do not want content that could just air on Disney Channel to be riginals on Disney+. After all, Disney Channel needs its purpose, it releases in general the best television content for the company, but yeah. As soon as I heard the Lizzie McGuire stuff was going in a very adult direction, like not even just portraying the characters as adults, literally dealing with themes I'd rather not, I didn't want it anymore. It's bad enough to see TRAILERS for Hulu playing in front of KZfaq videos, very disgusting stuff, for Disney to do that to Lizzie McGuire would be a complete disgrace. Not that Disney hasn't disgraced themselves aplenty. The sequel to Frozen...they screwed up Anna, like what the heck? Then there's High School Musical the Musical the Series, where they once again disrespected Frozen. Pixar has also fallen off the wayside with their last four movies, although Elio and Inside Out 2 are good on paper at the very least.
@inkiadk
@inkiadk Жыл бұрын
@@Inebriated_Goat Disney+ isn't in China so maybe we can actually blame Americans for once?
@inkiadk
@inkiadk Жыл бұрын
It's funny cause Disney is now allowing mature content. So like let's bring back Lizzie while we are at it.
@EChacon
@EChacon Жыл бұрын
@@inkiadk It's going to be a while longer as Hilary Duff is now doing _"How I Met Your Father"_
@Joenah5
@Joenah5 Жыл бұрын
I think it's incredibly unethical to remove shows from all streaming services. At that point, it should enter the public domain.
@Fork1
@Fork1 Жыл бұрын
A pirates life for me....
@PainMonkey
@PainMonkey Жыл бұрын
I think of such things as public domain at this point. Problem is, though, they often get pulled because of rights issues. If they're trying for a tax write off is better to make the show disappear as much as possible. And if they're trying to avoid artist's residuals, then making the work public domain could violate multiple contracts. Also, if the project was just shelved, they may be selling the distribution rights elsewhere.
@JamesLupus
@JamesLupus Жыл бұрын
This is why I buy physical media.
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou Жыл бұрын
@@JamesLupus When they actually release on physical media, that's great. The first two seasons of The Orville are only on DVD and not Blu-Ray, and the third season is not on physical media at all.
@julioagua
@julioagua Жыл бұрын
I never thought Disney Plus had enough shows to dare to cancel any of them...
@bongchoof
@bongchoof Жыл бұрын
Dude, Lizzie would have been successful for sure. 3 seasons I guarantee. They just needed to be patient because they were new. I hate that they got everyone back together just to tear them apart again. That must have hurt for the team. It would have been the lower end of a PG-13 rating at worst. Lordy.
@johnpaulsylvester3727
@johnpaulsylvester3727 Жыл бұрын
Based on the deleted scenes alone, I think they could make a show set in the world of The Incredibles.
@aroccoification
@aroccoification Жыл бұрын
Turner and houch is the perfect disney show. The dad is dead and the dog inexplicably must be immortal to be alive since the 80s
@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 Жыл бұрын
Why not make the revival a period piece, and set it in the '90s?
@aroccoification
@aroccoification Жыл бұрын
@@SeasideDetective2 beacuse the whole point of using an old IP and sending it directly to streaming with a known actor who doesnt get much work is to have the show cost as little as possible. Theyre not going to put money into 90s wardrobe
@maestrogeicho
@maestrogeicho Жыл бұрын
The dog had kids at the end of the first one, I thought the new one was supposed to be one of those kids
@aroccoification
@aroccoification Жыл бұрын
@@maestrogeicho even then that's a 30 year old dog lol
@SeasideDetective2
@SeasideDetective2 Жыл бұрын
@@maestrogeicho Oh, so this is like "The Simpsons," where Lisa's cat, Snowball II, was killed, and she just got another cat and pretended THAT one was Snowball II.
@onepresence9460
@onepresence9460 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see more original animated movies and animated shows from Disney Plus since The Owl House and Amphibia are ending. We hardly have any brand new modern original cartoons there.
@poisonedyoyo
@poisonedyoyo Жыл бұрын
Okay so, allow me to introduce you to two current animated shows. One of them is made from Dave Povenmire who brought us Phineas and Ferb. This one is called Hamster and Gretel and is really good. Honestly, Kevin looks a lot like Jeremy even wearing his color scheme. The other show is The Ghost and Molly McGree, a bit weird but the episodes are at least worth going through once. Firebuds also just dropped on there and I'm liking it, especially after Cars on the Road was dealing too much with scare factor and adult things. CArs 3 also has this problem, it has lost the fun. I was fine enough with it on the big screen but home viewing, no thanks. But Firebuds, that's something for sure, only seen one episode though but yeah. Monsters at Work is coming back next year, Zootopia+ is on the way in November, and on TOP of that, back in December 2020, Disney announced there would be WDAS and Pixar animated films brought to the service over the next ten years, released there as originals. At the time, they hadn't counted on Luca and Turning Red being among that number, but clearly they are counted. I believe they said 15 from those studios together over the next ten years but you can check if you want. That means that number from BOTH, not from each. Maybe they said ten of those over the next ten years though, that makes more sense. But they definitely said 15 series. So far there has been and will be: Cars on the Road, Zootopia+, Iwaju, Baymax, Dug Days, Tiana, Moana, Win or Lose.
@onepresence9460
@onepresence9460 Жыл бұрын
@@poisonedyoyo Thank you very much for the informations. I will check them out ^^
@kasaiart1281
@kasaiart1281 Жыл бұрын
You are one of my all-time favorite creators.
@haydenhouts
@haydenhouts Жыл бұрын
Same
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
His content is awesome
@fosterwilliamson01
@fosterwilliamson01 Жыл бұрын
I read this as milk
@EChacon
@EChacon Жыл бұрын
Pretty much the ONLY Disney+ shows that Disney has really canceled were _The Right Stuff, Diary of a Future President,_ and _Turner & Hooch._ The former and the latter shows were canceled after 1 Season and _Diary_ was canceled after 2 seasons.
@poisonedyoyo
@poisonedyoyo Жыл бұрын
From what I can tell, a lot of their family content can easily or should have season twos. Monsters at Work season two was announced for next year. Chip and DAle Park Life should have one. Dunno when though. But when you have season two of Mighty Ducks GAme Changers, Big Shot, AND The Mysterious Benedict Society all debuting int he span of one month, I'd say that's how it is. I would say Dairy of a Future Presdient lasted long enough, two seasons is what you can expect. Yes, HSMTS is suosedly getting a fourth one, but really it should've stopped at two. Technically the second season had some stuff it really shouldn't have, had to skip things, but then they went and disrespected Frozen. That is NOT acceptable. After that atrocious second episode of season three, I ran for the hills, never clicking on anything related to that show again. Except that one song that ended season two but I'll watch it here on KZfaq.
@Ravathiel
@Ravathiel Жыл бұрын
what about the basketball one with Stamos?
@EChacon
@EChacon Жыл бұрын
@@Ravathiel Big Shot has been renewed for a second season which is scheduled to premiere on October 12, so the show is not canceled.
@cactitiger
@cactitiger Жыл бұрын
Right Stuff should’ve gotten a second season
@swarler
@swarler Жыл бұрын
NOOO NOT TUBER AND HOONIS
@j.b.c.a.
@j.b.c.a. Жыл бұрын
Disney also owns Hulu, which -Disney, Pixar, Marvel and Lucasfilm aside- is what makes people really use Disney+ in Europe (through Star). So, I think once Disney+ manages to merge with Hulu in the US too, they'll use the Hulu shows to keep people on Disney+ whenever the franchise shows aren't on air or aren't doing well.
@poisonedyoyo
@poisonedyoyo Жыл бұрын
How does Netflix keep alfoat? Peole complain left and right or say they have nothing of interest for months, then as soon as a new Stranger Things/Umbrella Academy/Cobra Kai season are out, they're back to praising Netflix again even though they seem to be not realizing that there will likely be another period of nothing like that especially with those shows released so close together. Yes, Cobra Kai is three months or so after the others but still,. I guess the Christmas content will keep people afloat for awhile or whatever.
@Paulxl
@Paulxl Жыл бұрын
That's not going to happen until Disney owns 100 % of Hulu. Something that isn't true rn. Comcast owns 33 % of Hulu.
@joshuajoe1419
@joshuajoe1419 Жыл бұрын
@@Paulxl Just have to wait till 2024
@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache
@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache Жыл бұрын
Just so you know, Canada doesn't have Hulu, we have Stars like the rest of world.
@Inebriated_Goat
@Inebriated_Goat Жыл бұрын
@@poisonedyoyo netflix ISNT staying afloat, That's the thing they are losing money and subscribers which is why they had to implement their new bundles and packages (making people pay extra for more than 2 screens using Netflix and ads etc) but that will just drive more people AWAY from the streaming service so netflix at this point is dying. People hate the live action anime shows, people hate the netflix originals (for good reason)
@AS-fi7hc
@AS-fi7hc Жыл бұрын
I’d be interested in a video on cancelled shows on ABC/ABC family. I remember watching the channel a lot when I was a preteen and I’d constantly see commercials for their new shows, stuff like Twisted I’d see constantly, then they just dropped off the face of the earth. It’s really interesting to me
@clarktooncrossing3975
@clarktooncrossing3975 Жыл бұрын
Anybody remember how we were supposed to get a new Lizzie McGuire show? They had footage of that in the trailer for Disney+'s launch day! Or how about the new shorts for Oswald the Lucky Rabbit? I was super eager to see the bunny get some love outside of the Epic Mickey games. Heck, why'd they cancel that Kingdom Keepers movie? I used to love the books when I was younger, I would've loved to see it brought to life on the big / small screen. Ugh, I hate how safe Disney plays it these days. Especially since their 'kid friendly' excuse is long gone with stuff like Daredevil and Deadpool on Disney+ now. For the record, still waiting for the Alien and Predator movies to be added as well.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Disney is just full of untapped potential, really
@poisonedyoyo
@poisonedyoyo Жыл бұрын
I would've liked them to make Peter and the Stracatchers a Disney+ movie. Well, sort of. There's only one good Disney+ original movie so far, The Secret Society of Second-Born Royals. There are a couple that were acceptable and like good enough for a single viewing, well three actually, Chip and Dale being one. But an actual movie can't be built on cameos. Anyhow, Peter and the Starctachers was greenlit, it had the Hunger Games director, but LOOK, ten years after Hunger Games came out, this still isn't a thing! (The author of Kingdom Keepers is one of the co-writers of Peter and the Starcatchers.) Also, Oz the Great and Powerful was supposed to be a trilogy, second movie still not out yet, and first one not on Disney+. It was Joey King's movie debut. She's come a lont way, now has been in The Kissing Booth and Bullet Train.
@onepresence9460
@onepresence9460 Жыл бұрын
I want the new shorts for Oswald!
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
Can a Disney’s Tarzan 3d animated reboot exist on Disney plus? And where can the upcoming Disney’s Tarzan live action movie become so wrong?
@ajzeg01
@ajzeg01 Жыл бұрын
The Alien and Predator movies, and a TON of other R-rated content, are on Disney+ in literally every region BUT the US.
@PotatopancakesOMG
@PotatopancakesOMG Жыл бұрын
Disney is cancelling projects almost as fast as they announce them at this point
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy, right? They’re making new stuff and cancelling it all at the same time.
@sterling7
@sterling7 Жыл бұрын
On the one hand, I absolutely want more original dramatic programming, not just on Disney+, but across television in general. On the other hand, I sometimes think that the only thing that has prevented Disney from making even bigger mis-steps than it already has is the tenuous fear of damaging their brand(s). Their creatives seem to have gotten a bit infatuated with their own awesome-ness, and really need to take a few steps back and re-learn some of the fundamental building blocks of storytelling they're so eager to upend and deconstruct without understanding.
@benjaminwatt2436
@benjaminwatt2436 Жыл бұрын
adding sexual content to children's shows hasn't been good for their brand
@brycebitetti1402
@brycebitetti1402 Жыл бұрын
@@benjaminwatt2436 What sexual content?
@Freak80MC
@Freak80MC Жыл бұрын
@@brycebitetti1402 He's probably talking about stuff like The Owl House, which I guess has a gay relationship in it? (I've never watched the show) because you know, when a person with a vagina gets with a person with a penis in an animated kid's show, it's not inherently sexual, it's only sexual when both people share the same genitals... somehow??? Homophobic logic for ya LMAO
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
But the fairy tales that many Disney movies are based on tend not to play straight, since they’re basically made with unbuilt tropes anyway.
@AdviceFromAHipoCrite
@AdviceFromAHipoCrite Жыл бұрын
Hemlock Grove was one of my favorite shows ever. Truly impacted me but the last season went off the rails and I was actually relieved it got cancelled
@HealerMaow
@HealerMaow Жыл бұрын
I'm still pretty bummed about the Oswald The Lucky Rabbit show getting quietly cancelled. Apparently it was being worked on by the same team that did The Legend of The Three Caballeros? That show was great.
@KasumiKenshirou
@KasumiKenshirou Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know they were going to do an Oswald show.
@Dr_LanMan
@Dr_LanMan Жыл бұрын
always use notifications for the captain
@julio1148
@julio1148 Жыл бұрын
3:00 I think that change happened because of the CEO changes (Bob Iger to Bob Chapek). Iger wanted Disney+ to be accessible to anyone in a family without parents being concerned
@erinw1256
@erinw1256 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty disappointed that Disney+ hasn't been doing any animated shows. They had Monsters at Work, and I think that's it. It was cute but that's about it. I mostly watch Disney+ for their animated catalog. So I was hoping for some story driven animated shows. Heck they could've just moved the Owl House from Disney Channel to a Disney+ exclusive if they thought it didn't fit the Disney Channel, since it's done so well on Disney+.
@yeetus_reetus_deeleetus
@yeetus_reetus_deeleetus Жыл бұрын
They had bad batch and some other star wars animation projects
@HectorsOasis
@HectorsOasis Жыл бұрын
I loved the Lizzie McGuire show when I was a kid. I feel like a spinoff of it with the characters in their 30s would be cool. Shame shame shame. I would watch it.
@lingricen8077
@lingricen8077 Жыл бұрын
Lol a show about people in their 30s? What is this, the early 2010s? Mate, literally EVERY show is about 90s zoomers, the most spoilt and over-represented generation of all time.
@EnigmaticGentleman
@EnigmaticGentleman Жыл бұрын
"Cancelled Disney+ Shows" made my mind jump to The Owl House. Not made for Disney+ Per se, but one of the most unfair cancellations in recent memory no doubt.
@dannygillespie6614
@dannygillespie6614 Жыл бұрын
And, what, 98% of watchers discovered and viewed it on Disney+? That's a definite part of it too.
@lingricen8077
@lingricen8077 Жыл бұрын
Lol you’re gay then, its a gay show
@MattGOnYT
@MattGOnYT Жыл бұрын
@@lingricen8077 it is and that’s what makes it great
@lewisgarner5615
@lewisgarner5615 Жыл бұрын
@@lingricen8077 wow hit the hammer on the head with that
@Freak80MC
@Freak80MC Жыл бұрын
@@lingricen8077 Oh noes, a gay, in MY television show, the horror!
@YaBoiBigNutz
@YaBoiBigNutz Жыл бұрын
Disney+ first batch of cancelled shows feel like they were made with a Disney Channel mindset with the idea being low budget content. That's why they feel so clinical and clean, like a commercial. Whereas with their Marvel and Star Wars shows it feels like they took the mindset they had when they worked with Netflix for the Marvel shows.
@jakdee1295
@jakdee1295 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think that Percy Jackson has a chance to be something big for D+. And I know it’s an existing IP but I think they can make something of it. Also has huge opportunity for growth, if it goes well, you can adapt all of Ricks other stories that have some connection to it. Likely to be a huge cash cow if they hit on it.
@shaggymofo7716
@shaggymofo7716 Жыл бұрын
Hey it’s still count anything that isn’t Star Wars or marvel and is a success on Disney is a w in my book. Need something other than those 2.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
I do think that a Disney’s Tarzan series can be great for Disney plus, although the character’s own rights holders are busy, thus it’s not so likely.
@mickeymouse7726
@mickeymouse7726 Жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with Disney plus Marvel shows is that their way too safe and don't take risks which the source material actually does falcon and winter soldier, Hawkeye, Ms marvel and moon Knight arent as good as the books their adapting and it makes me appreciate shows like agents of shield, agent carter, Daredevil and legion so much more because at least the writing and pacing of those shows are actually really great and those shows are way more interesting to watch man
@CoffeeKawaii
@CoffeeKawaii Жыл бұрын
You make a really good point on original programming: I hope Disney+ can find its own “Stranger Things”. Would also be cool to eventually queue up for a dark ride born out of streaming.
@lapislazuli5035
@lapislazuli5035 Жыл бұрын
I'm really bummed that Amazon cancelled Paper Girls. It was a good show and an *excellent* comic, but it got compared to Stranger Things even though the comic book came out first.
@poisonedyoyo
@poisonedyoyo Жыл бұрын
@@lapislazuli5035 As Grace Randolph always says, whatever gets to the general public first gets the credit. And the general public doesn't pick up comic books to begin with, and when they do they are the big titles fromt he major companies.
@lothanyfountain9443
@lothanyfountain9443 Жыл бұрын
I think their stranger things might be the mandalorian
@Jeffinently
@Jeffinently Жыл бұрын
They do have madalorian generating air of buzz so that kind of acts like their stranger things But as a mystery show in st's vein loki works a lot better
@InvasionAnimation
@InvasionAnimation Жыл бұрын
There is a neat foreign show on there called Parallels. It is like stranger things and DARK but for kids.
@TheMilkyBarKid3
@TheMilkyBarKid3 Жыл бұрын
In fairness a lot of Netflix’s content isn’t even made by them - they just buy the rights to things and slap them with an “only on Netflix” logo so every assumes they actually made it
@SparkzEnt
@SparkzEnt Жыл бұрын
Disney did the same thing with Diary of a Future President, as it wasn't produced nor owned by Disney, but by CBS
@CinnamonGrrlErin1
@CinnamonGrrlErin1 Жыл бұрын
8:00 don't forget Disney's best trick, Copyright Renewal.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
Disney also has an army predominantly consisting of registered trademarks, which is understandable since copyrights often aren’t forever perpetual.
@Gemnist98
@Gemnist98 Жыл бұрын
On the Lizzie Maguire one: it simply speaks to where the service was at the time. Disney’s game plan was to put some of their more mature content onto Hulu, which not only resulted in the Lizzie Maguire cancellation (likely because that show is already very associated with Disney and they assumed it would be awkward to have it on Hulu), but also the Love Victor controversy, where the teen comedy-drama was moved to Hulu because it was more mature and led to accusations of homophobia. In recent months, however, many of Disney’s financial investors have opined that, now that Hulu is primarily owned by Disney, they can fold it into Disney+ and operate it as a single streaming service. Adding the mature function and the Marvel Netflix shows was likely a test of that capability, as well as them deciding it was more viable to have the entire MCU made by Disney in one location. And it was clearly a success, as Bob Chapek has said that folding Hulu into Disney+ is a long-term goal, albeit not wholly possible due to Universal maintaining a third of the company’s stake.
@picklenik9658
@picklenik9658 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Lizzie Maguire reboot sorta got retooled in ways into the How I Met Your Father spin-off.
@andreasmeelie1889
@andreasmeelie1889 Жыл бұрын
Who knows?
@isthisajojoreference
@isthisajojoreference Жыл бұрын
As someone who's gotten a Nebula account despite using AdBlock the biggest draw was Nando's Nebula Plus segments and exclusive videos. I think even if they aren't high effort or high production vale rants or creator notes that it's the best thing to draw people to Nebula.
@skyejohnson2790
@skyejohnson2790 Жыл бұрын
I actually really liked Diary of a future president and honestly didn’t know it was cancelled which is sad to me because it was a funny coming of age story that could have worked well on Disney channel 😢
@unnoticed
@unnoticed Жыл бұрын
I actually enjoyed hemlock Grove, I watched it when it first released and was a different take on vamps and werewolves... Also insane that they are removing their own series from Netflix, thankfully I downloaded it a few months ago adding to my collection of things you'll never find again in a few years
@RookE2011
@RookE2011 Жыл бұрын
A lot of the Korean shows on streaming aren't really being produced by the streaming service. Snowdrop wasn't produced by Disney, Disney+ just has the streaming rights. Snowdrop was produced by a Korean production company and Disney had no input/control
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
Hooray for the South Korean companies.
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond Жыл бұрын
They still put a lot of their adult stuff on Hulu, if you’re not a Marvel property like Deadpool or Daredevil, you ain’t getting onto Disney+ with that R Rating, also I’d definitely recommend Hulu, have been watching lots of Amazing World of Gumball and American Dad on there
@aroccoification
@aroccoification Жыл бұрын
Such a great video. I love when you analyze shows in a way I cant rather than make fan fiction which I can do myself. Anyone can make stuff up but this is a real talent
@Itsastoryteller
@Itsastoryteller Жыл бұрын
If they really want to make a Disney+ original that the whole family could enjoy they definitely need to do more book based movies/shows (imo) there are tons of books they can profit off of books like Kingdom Keepers and Percy Jackson and even wimpy kid are great examples (and hopefully Percy Jackson does good enough that they continue to make originals) I REALLY want to see how they would make a kingdom keepers show cause if done right they can make a lot money off of that just think every time you go to a Disney theme park there would be little easter eggs from the show and merchandise you can buy Would 100% genius on their part
@dannygillespie6614
@dannygillespie6614 Жыл бұрын
All of this is correct. And shows how big a deal the Percy Jackson show really is for Disney's attempts to have a new hit.
@gavinsmith9871
@gavinsmith9871 Жыл бұрын
The Mean Girl Makeover trilogy would be perfect for them to adapt.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
A serial adaptation of Edgar Rice Burroughs’ Tarzan books can be a huge hit for Disney Plus. It’s wonderful that a French graphic novel series about Tarzan came into French comic stores last year, which was when the ERB Tarzan books finally became public domain in much of the world, except for the USA. Also helping is that a Dynamite comic book series, itself a contemporary reboot of its previous Disney-inspired Lord of the Jungle comic, is coming into comic stores this November.
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 Жыл бұрын
The Earthsea series could have potential. It’s high fantasy in a way that evokes Game of Thrones or Lord of the Rings, with far, far less graphic content and the IP does have fans. The source material ticks the diversity box, with Earthsea populated by different races with varied cultures fleshed out by the worldbuilding and later entries exploring the setting from a more feminist angle. Indeed, one of the few screen adaptations has whitewashing as its main criticism. The most recent adaptation was the 2006 Studio Ghibli film, which while its a decent film if not one of the studio’s better ones, isn’t a strong adaptation of the books as it takes plots and character from various books in an unexpected way.
@Lucie-ho1qv
@Lucie-ho1qv Жыл бұрын
@@jbcatz5 Would love to see a kids high fantasy show done right!!
@nicolasevans7477
@nicolasevans7477 Жыл бұрын
You should def make this a miniseries with HBO/Warnercovery up next
@zackbrangen1528
@zackbrangen1528 Жыл бұрын
Their upcoming original TV series *'American Born Chinese'* looks like it might become their answer to Cobra Kai, from what we saw in D23, Dustin Daniel Cretton looks like he's been cooking up heat, It's my second most anticipated Disney+ show, right after *'Percy Jackson'*
@liamwhite1719
@liamwhite1719 Жыл бұрын
I think Trixie Mattel said it best "it takes a Princess Switch to appreciate a Squid Game". Disney needs to 1.) be more adventurous with their original programs and 2.) need to be less scared about having mass appeal and trust that eventually, the amazing shows will rise to the top
@83N7
@83N7 Жыл бұрын
im still waiting on "The Weekenders." that show was awesome.
@jonathanvanderpol1435
@jonathanvanderpol1435 Жыл бұрын
Interesting thoughts. My family and I really liked the Turner and Hooch series and were very sad to see it cancelled.
@bluearcher1559
@bluearcher1559 Жыл бұрын
Disney will soon be having a new Eragon show...while this will be based on the highly popular book series it has never had a successful Screen version like Star Wars, im exited to see what comes of it
@mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163
@mackenziemcdaniel-paul8163 Жыл бұрын
I'm in a university radio and television and a editor from the turner and hooch came in for a discussion being a alumni. He sounded suicidal and couldn't help but tell the class that they would likely have to edit porn.
@GuineaPigEveryday
@GuineaPigEveryday Жыл бұрын
About streaming services removing movies/shows completely, I think there was some article/video that pointed out the fact that due to the fact that since streaming service and online/digital publication of movies is predominate, we barely use DVD/VHS or stuff like that, so for most people, the only copy of a film is found on a streaming service, it is literally removing these movies and shows from the public domain. When you remove 80s films from there its mostly fine because there's phsyical copies, but these movies and shows will be forgotten and disappear into nothingness cuz there are few physical copies of them that would be out there.
@robertborland5083
@robertborland5083 Жыл бұрын
Neat! I would be interested in seeing how the ideas about Disney+ explored here relate to the recent cancellations on the streaming service.
@thefirstone4864
@thefirstone4864 Жыл бұрын
One other show that got cancelled is the cartoon named the owl house it's not exactly disney+ original but it's from disney channel made it to disney+ though it has really big popularity compared to other disney channel shows it wasn't really talked compared to other disney+ shows which is a shame because the owl house is literally better than anything marvel and star wars put into the streaming platform since mandalorian.
@verskarton
@verskarton Жыл бұрын
I think that is more of an Disney Channel show. In some regions (like my country the Netherlands) never got The Owl House on Disney Plus because it is in “Disney Channel Jail”. I’m still waiting for season 3 of Ducktales (2018) to watch it properly.
@lanceturley7745
@lanceturley7745 Жыл бұрын
I know this video focuses on scripted shows, but I really wish they would make more episodes of *Prop Culture* and *Behind the Attraction.* There's enough content there to keep both shows going for years.
@MCLegoboy
@MCLegoboy Жыл бұрын
The annoying thing about that is that if you look to see if Prop Culture has been canceled, they still say that it's currently airing, but not necessarily renewed either. It's been nearly 2 years! It's sitting in my Watchlist so that I remember to look up its status every now and then, but it's still in limbo. I'm sure the Pandemic really hurt it, but there's so much stuff that can be visited and it forced me to watch a couple movies I hadn't seen before or hadn't seen in forever, therefore making me use the service for more than just Marvel, Star Wars, and Pixar.
@ajzeg01
@ajzeg01 Жыл бұрын
I want more Muppet content. Earth to Ned was great and Muppets Now was at least an attempt.
@lanceturley7745
@lanceturley7745 Жыл бұрын
@@ajzeg01 Yeah, I thought Muppets Now really started to find its footing in some of the later episodes.
@DaiSenshiMounir
@DaiSenshiMounir Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the upload
@cecilboyd1692
@cecilboyd1692 Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to remember the name for this show for like 3 years. Watched the first couple seasons at release then fell off and for the life of me I never would have found hemlock Grove again. Thx captain!
@Pellbort
@Pellbort Жыл бұрын
I never saw Turner and Hooch (the TV series), but I can tell you this: Just from looking at soundless clips, I have such a reaction to Josh Peck, who looks like the thalidomide baby of Ed Helms and David Schwimmer, that I would have immediately quit that show in the middle of whatever episode I was in and never thought about it again. Life's too short, and there's already too much to watch.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
Before his questionable transformations, Josh Peck used to be a lot cuter looking in comparison.
@mediaondisplay3089
@mediaondisplay3089 Жыл бұрын
The show "Defiance" was an interesting concept and canceling. A show made along side a companion massively multi-player online game. The idea was the show would affect the game and the game could affect the show. Of course none of that really happened and the show was canceled after 3 seasons. "On October 16, 2015, the show was cancelled by Syfy, citing financial reasons after having completed its third season. However, the companion video game, Defiance, continued to be supported until April 2021 when all servers and community services were shut down" - Google
@claytonrios1
@claytonrios1 Жыл бұрын
Given how Disney Plus has allowed a bit more edgy language and content in Andor recently I wonder if they'll get a bit more lax on the stuff that's allowed on their service in the future if Andor does well enough.
@poisonedyoyo
@poisonedyoyo Жыл бұрын
I would argue this is because at the time Andor was bieng fillmed was around the time that they decided to lfie the restrictions of the service. People needed to be patient for that type of content.
@claytonrios1
@claytonrios1 Жыл бұрын
@@poisonedyoyo But we're only 3 episodes in as well at this time. So maybe that kind of content will continue in the other 9 episodes. Or maybe not.
@Coolcoolcooldude
@Coolcoolcooldude Жыл бұрын
The Marvel and SW shows have bigger budgets than Diary or Turner and Hooch so of course they put more money into advertising those shows than the other lower budget stuff to ensure good viewership. But I understand what you're saying. Also I think there is a good chunk of people who are only subscribed to D+ just to watch the Marvel and SW shows. Remember when the the first season of the Mandalorian ended, there was a noticeable drop in subscribers.
@iminumst7827
@iminumst7827 Жыл бұрын
If anyone's looking for an underrated cancelled TV show to watch, try the American version of Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency. Because it's so under the radar the entire series is uploaded onto youtube and hasn't been taken down yet. Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance is another great show canceled before it's time.
@damonlam9145
@damonlam9145 Жыл бұрын
I think the problem with Disney now is that they aren't flexible. They either heavily focus too much on notalgia such as Stars Wars and Marvel making it hard for new and old fans to catch up, leaving their other original projects left in the dust, and when do give certain shows a chance they put very harsh and strict rules limitations on the projects to fit their brand, which can lead to a difficult time creating an original IP to fit the mold or canceling projects despite being very popular other than to either save money on making new episodes or the product doesn't fit their brand (eg: The Owl House).
@gummybears1339
@gummybears1339 Жыл бұрын
Ohhhh I have a thing for studying cancelled shows lol so thank you for this!
@garrettharris8241
@garrettharris8241 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting video, and definitely something to think about! Btw, I was wondering if you could maybe do a video on the fall of Nickelodeon. I don't hear many kids excited to watch it. Either because of streaming being a thing nowadays, or just the dip in quality.
@maxwellgerber3225
@maxwellgerber3225 Жыл бұрын
Goddamn dude take a break your putting out too many banger videos in a row
@enzmondo
@enzmondo Жыл бұрын
Disney does have some really good ideas under their belt. Unfortunately, the higher ups, namely Chapek and, previously, Iger, just aren’t prioritising new, original, or evolved content. They’re so afraid to deviate from their kids and teens brand that it stifles creativity and innovation. Disney are becoming too cookie-cutter and stagnant. They don’t believe “mature” themes can also be consumed and understood by younger audiences.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
Disney’s long been upholding its brand too well. It’s what makes a lot of bank.
@AbiyBattleSpell
@AbiyBattleSpell Жыл бұрын
props to disney fr using hooch to test there necromancy on before using it on walt
@LexiChannel
@LexiChannel Жыл бұрын
I really loved Diary of a Future President, season 2 specifically. It was a massive improvement from 1. The best way I can describe is is feeling like Andi Mack-a sitcom but not a Disney sitcom. I wish it got a third season.
@MarkTaylorsVersion
@MarkTaylorsVersion Жыл бұрын
I know it's not a scripted show, but the reality/doc "Encore!" is so magical and deserves another season. I don't think it did great, but because it wasn't that promoted. It's a shame.
@mandbgames
@mandbgames Жыл бұрын
Gonna bet I haven’t seen any of these shows
@MethodicalMadness
@MethodicalMadness Жыл бұрын
You're looking at this with a clearer mind than the folks at Disney. We can barely begin to "imagineer" what goes through their minds when they greenlight shows.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
The Disney folks all believe in market research, since market research makes a lot of bank.
@almostatami
@almostatami Жыл бұрын
Man oh man. I can't believe I actually forgot about Hemlock Grove. I was so obsessed with it back in college.
@nahuel
@nahuel Жыл бұрын
What an excellent analysis!!
@cancerino666
@cancerino666 Жыл бұрын
Historically, Disney has been about making cute, generic stuff based on existing stories (they didn't make the characters of our childhood films, for example. they even stole simba). Being original was never the main focus. So is it really a suprise that it had to buy high-value IPs and now is trying to coast on them?
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯. Nailed it, man
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
Being original was never the main focus. Atlantis The Lost Empire and Treasure Planet: Have you forgotten about us?
@aadityachangayil6907
@aadityachangayil6907 Жыл бұрын
Simba isn’t a rip-off.
@poisonedyoyo
@poisonedyoyo Жыл бұрын
False. I probmise you if you can find MOther Gothel and Eugene in the original Rapunzel story, you have discovered a book published in 2010 or later. Abu and Rajah are not in anything before Aladdin, nor is Jasmine, or Robin Williams' version of the genie. Ariel's personality, design, voice, and basically the entire plot of the movie were put together by Disney. None of the characters from Frozen are in The Snow Queen. Well, except Gerda and Kay, but in Frozen they are servants, not the focal characters. And even where characters are lifted, the original versions aren't like the Disney portrayals. I'm pretty sure Jiminiy Cricket was just called "Talking Cricket" in the book and also Pinnochio is actually trying to kill him at one point. I HAVE read Bambi: A Life in the Woods, though, and let me tell you, that book isn't fousing on Babmbi's mother's death, it's focusing on death in GENERAL.
@manitsainisworld
@manitsainisworld Жыл бұрын
Your content is always awesome
@p5ych0p4th
@p5ych0p4th Жыл бұрын
Them (probably) cancelling The Orville, when it is an original show with an almost unilateral positive reception and lots of room to grow says it all about that service. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@broston_
@broston_ Жыл бұрын
I want to get the Nebula deal but I don't know if Nebula is available in Spain. I've searched but I haven't found any info anywhere, does anyone know?
@michaelmcchesney6645
@michaelmcchesney6645 Жыл бұрын
My biggest problem with streaming services, isn't that it cancels shows. That's inevitable, at least if NCIS or Law & Order aren't in your title. It's that services like Disney+, HBO Max, and Peacock don't include their studios back catalogs. I don't mean shows previously licensed to other services. I mean shows like the Six Million Dollar Man not being on Peacock or the 1950s Disney show Zorro being (almost) not on Disney+. I say almost about Zorro because while they have a B&W film taken from the first 8 episodes, the series itself was upwards of 80 episodes. I think I understand why that is. My conjecture is that contracts for actors and music didn't contemplate streaming. They didn't even include home video releases until the 80s or 90s, That means it's only practical to go back to get releases for shows that were popular enough to justify the expense. I understand it, but I don't have to like it. What I really don't like is a studio like HBO Max pulling shows made for HBO Max being pulled off the service so as to not have to pay the people who made them ongoing residuals. Lets not even get started about Batgirl. Hopefully somebody leaks it.
@abigailblackmon1144
@abigailblackmon1144 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some of the K-dramas they have available in English speaking countires, even if they don't get dubbed it would be a good move. There's not a lot of platforms filling the k-drama niche since Drama Fever shut down.
@JebeckyGranjola
@JebeckyGranjola Жыл бұрын
Really? It seems like that is 90% of the shit on netflix.
@Bender-fv9fu
@Bender-fv9fu Жыл бұрын
I think they should bring back the show “Prop Culture”
@lanceturley7745
@lanceturley7745 Жыл бұрын
That was the first thing that popped in my head when I saw the title. I periodically go back just to check and see if they uploaded any new episodes, but it definitely feels like it's dead and gone.
@holopollock
@holopollock Жыл бұрын
Living in Vancouver break so many shows I’m here just listening and I’m like oh I know that motel
@greenfiend781
@greenfiend781 Жыл бұрын
Now that Disney+ has parental controls in the US, maybe they’ll one day put the adult-aimed Lizzie McGuire back into production.
@andreasmeelie1889
@andreasmeelie1889 Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was just thinking and hoping for!😍
@lapislazuli5035
@lapislazuli5035 Жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to that show Encore? The one where old high school theater classes redid a play they did as kids? I liked it.
@akshaytrayner1960
@akshaytrayner1960 Жыл бұрын
Great review
@mikaylaeager7942
@mikaylaeager7942 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, existing IP is kinda Disneys thing. I didn’t sign up for the streaming service expecting original content. I signed up for nostalgia, and Disney owns all our nostalgia. This is why I’ve never been exactly up in arms over Disney owning pretty much all of the recognizable IP. It forces all their competitors to create original IP instead of playing a industry wide game of “you remember this don’t you!!” Leave that to Disney, it’s what they do best!
@jaspervanheycop9722
@jaspervanheycop9722 Жыл бұрын
Yeah the reason I picked it up was partially the Mandalorian, but mostly so I have one-click access to Disney classics without having to rifle through my huge pile of DVD's and even VHS tapes...
@IcyDiamond
@IcyDiamond Жыл бұрын
I mean even Disney’s classics like Aladdin, Beauty & The Beast, Frozen, Snow White, Little Mermaid, etc are all loosely adapted from old fairytales
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
@@IcyDiamond Disney’s Tarzan was mostly based on a few tidbits from Tarzan of the Apes. I haven’t read the original novels for a while, so I’ll check out.
@BlueTearDconnor
@BlueTearDconnor Жыл бұрын
Yup, I mean every Disney animation that helped make Disney what it is was an existing i.p.
@JebeckyGranjola
@JebeckyGranjola Жыл бұрын
What competitors? You mean the streaming services? The problem with Disney is that they aquire the IPs by buying the production company that made them, like Fox. Who used to be thier competitors, so there is no one else on thier scale producing content.
@michaelnally2841
@michaelnally2841 Жыл бұрын
I hope the new Percy Jackson series will be Disney+’s stranger things
@joriskuipers4112
@joriskuipers4112 Жыл бұрын
Diary of a Future President is cancelled? But I liked it and it ended on a cliffhanger :(
@crimsontrooper9425
@crimsontrooper9425 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the set design of the Turner and Hooch reboot seem really reminiscent of the live action inspector movies?
@ajaydahl
@ajaydahl Жыл бұрын
I was looking forward to the the six part mini series Finn: "You ain't gonna Disney+ me"
@patricko.962
@patricko.962 Жыл бұрын
The forgotten Tron franchise has been neglected by Disney for years, specifically the animated show Tron: Uprising which was cancelled after just one season during the Disney XD days
@israelvaldivia9211
@israelvaldivia9211 Жыл бұрын
The Owl House should get an honorable mention on this list
@ManLikeJimothy
@ManLikeJimothy Жыл бұрын
When you say there doing better international you are entirely correct because Hulu never launched outside of the us we get it as part of Disney+ called star for no extra cost so Hulu originals are all Disney+ originals
@filipapinto99
@filipapinto99 Жыл бұрын
Well, today I found out that Turner & Hooch is getting cancelled. I actually really liked it
@jaykay5811
@jaykay5811 Жыл бұрын
Query: Seeing as people will eventually demand the ability to see certain shows they didn’t watch enough back when(see every promotional food item that’s ever been made by a major brand), Will there be a “Netflix vault” where you’ll only be able to watch certain old original content through certain windows of time?
@maddieadaddy
@maddieadaddy Жыл бұрын
One Disney+ show I shamelessly love is Big Shot with John Stamos. I'm so glad it got a season 2, I'm just really scared that it will end up like Diary, which I actually watched the first season of and really liked (by the time season 2 came out, I'd grown out of it a bit).
@jsim7
@jsim7 Жыл бұрын
Was served a Disney+ ad right after this video ended lol
@uosdwiSrdewoH
@uosdwiSrdewoH Жыл бұрын
The movie Turner and Hooch is surprisingly dark for a movie where Tom Hanks gets his quiet life turned upside down by a dog. The show immediately ruined any goodwill the name might have had by the fact they killed Scott Turner (Hanks) as kind of the inciting incident. Even if he was never going to show up in the series you don't just kill Tom Hanks without a very good reason and this series was not it.
@PeterParker-ff7ub
@PeterParker-ff7ub Жыл бұрын
they need to make an Incredibles show about Helen and Bob's young superhero days.
@chasehedges6775
@chasehedges6775 Жыл бұрын
TBH, i would like it if they didn’t. Not everyone needs a backstory
@ninjanibba4259
@ninjanibba4259 Жыл бұрын
That sounds horrible
@onepresence9460
@onepresence9460 Жыл бұрын
That would be really cool. I would also love to see a sitcom series for The Incredibles family itself and a show dedicated to all of the dead heroes by Syndrome, showing the golden age of heroes.
@erikadlloyd5586
@erikadlloyd5586 Жыл бұрын
Oh shoot. I was gonna finish season 2 and 3 of Hemlock Grove. I better get started!
@thefinkie6459
@thefinkie6459 Жыл бұрын
As far as new original Disney+ shows go, Secrets Of Sulphur Springs is some of the greatest television I have seen for a long time. It certainly doesn't have the "plasticky" look mentioned here at all, in fact the cinematography is unexpectedly beautiful for a light-hearted children's show.
@silverstarfinder
@silverstarfinder Жыл бұрын
I can second this show. Very good!
@Eidlones
@Eidlones Жыл бұрын
Long shot, but could you perhaps do a video on how Disney+ is changing their old media? Not just editing things to make them more "appropriate", like changing Lilo getting into a piece of furniture with a pizza box lid covering the opening instead of a dryer like the original movie, but how they're changing the intros to their old cartoons as well. Find an upload of the Ducktales and Chip And Dale intros on youtube from years ago, and compare them to the official Disney+ versions. They're flattened out, lack impact, and the singing is at a much higher level than the music. It's just weird to me why they decided to do that, and as these new things will become the standard, the older stuff will become lost.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 Жыл бұрын
Not helping is that the master tapes for tv shows like DuckTales are frequently decaying a lot.
@mrtalos
@mrtalos Жыл бұрын
Disney's main problem is making EVERYTHING child friendly. It's not unique to Disney either. I've seen shows that were made for really an adult audience, but okay for children, end up being made for what adults think children understand. I'd argue that the BBC in the UK has fallen into this Trap, killing shows stone dead. Kids don't actually like being talked down to, especially when they are in or closing in on their teens
@ajzeg01
@ajzeg01 Жыл бұрын
Their original Jim Henson shows like Muppets Now and Earth to Ned look like they’ve been cancelled after one season.
@brimer735uu8
@brimer735uu8 22 күн бұрын
Lord!!! I was positive the "Lizzie McGuire" reboot got thwarted by the COVID-19 pandemic! I know I heard it canceled before it happened when COVID-19 Was one of the main things along with crew hiring problems that killed it from happening!!!!
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