The Fossil That Travelled Through Time

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In 2003 a fossil found in Australia was reported to represent a very late-surviving member of the Dicynodonts (ancient mammal relatives), showing that these animals had a significant ghost lineage throughout the age of the dinosaurs. But is this really what this fossil shows?
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@hallamhal Жыл бұрын

I'm reminded of my favourite paleontologic joke: A tourist is looking at some dinosaur bones in the Natural History Museum, and he's curious about them so approaches the guard "Excuse me, do you know how old these dinosaur bones are?" The guard replies, "Yes, they're 65,000,011 years old." "That's very precise," says the tourist. "How do you know that, is it from carbon dating?" The guard answers, "No, you see I was told they were sixty five million years old when I started working here, and that was eleven years ago."

@moustachepig43 11 ай бұрын

Bro doesn’t know about sig figs

@the_royal_frick634 Жыл бұрын

I'm a simple man. I see a dicynodont in the thumbnail, I click. Now let's see how this guy can time travel

@nathanielhart1299 Жыл бұрын

Dude same😂😂💀

@richardsorgo8600 Жыл бұрын

Dicynodonts are quite unpredictable for a family of herbivorous synapsids (Spreads across the world, Survives possibly the worst extinction in Earth's History to quickly dominated earth, has the largest non Cenozoic synapsid and some even grew long necks). Then again, one of their cousins evolved into an almost primate like niche.

@the_royal_frick634 Жыл бұрын

@Richard Sorgo They're the best, just went to a museum in Texas, which luckily passed the dicynodont test. So far, every museum I've been to has passed, which is very good news.

@rickglorie Жыл бұрын

Maybe he meant "Thyme travel" like, some kind of cooking show, on the road?

@ecurewitz Жыл бұрын

Forward, at a rate of one second per second

@quintenwhyte6660 Жыл бұрын

The late but great Harvard biologist/ paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould said.... "Paleontology is a complex field. Most fossils are scrappy. You get bits and pieces. Remember the fossils of most creatures are representing animals that are dead and have been extinct for millions of years. Imagine you go out and find a shell and a bit of a bone of a creature that has no modern analog on Earth. It gets very difficult. And so inevitably large numbers of mistakes will be made in the identification and there's no disgrace in that."

@Ballistics_Computer Жыл бұрын

What a fitting quote

@turbotreehouse9780 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I loved reading this and thinking of the context in this video.

@FLEXJR69 10 ай бұрын

I was once explaining how identification works to my family to fill some time on a trip up to the mountains. And someone said "If you only find fragments how do you know what to reconstruct?" And I told them that there's a load of guess work involved, but by comparing to other creatures or more complete examples of related species you can get a pretty good idea. But I made sure to say that it's always a guess. A new find tomorrow could completely upend a decades long reconstruction. They were to say the least confused why I chose this Field and I...don't blame them. But hey, I got to see some kick ass fossilized coral on the way up to the mountains that day!

@mikesnyder1788 Ай бұрын

Great quote by Stephen Jay Gould! Because I stumbled across some of his essays a few decades ago this English Literature major is now crazy for all things scientific. I wish I could go back in time and tell my science teachers that I finally "got it" and much of the credit goes to Mr. Gould.

@Reedstilt Жыл бұрын

Not how I expected this story to end. I really thought they were going to be dicyondont fossils but had been washed out of an older rocks and deposited into Cretaceous sediments. Then, out of nowhere, giant wombats!

@Kotorichan Жыл бұрын

I think there's a positive note to take out of this ordeal. Many scientists are afraid to go against the accepted norm, ie 'dicynodonts disappeared at the end of the Triassic' and it's refreshing to see them just accepting the proof they had in front of their faces, and then changing again to accommodate for the more complete context.

@thekaxmax Жыл бұрын

it's not fear, it's lack of good evidence and no money to go looking themselves. I don't know a scientist who is driven by fear about anything except lack of funding.

@surtech5 Жыл бұрын

These are actually still around to this day. I spotted one when I was passing through Missouri; he was chained to the side of the gas station I was stopped at. I asked the cashier about him, and he told me, "Thats just Darby." I would have pet him, but they said he bites.

@Ballistics_Computer Жыл бұрын

He's a sweetheart, I mean it.

@justsomehaatonpassingby4488 Жыл бұрын

I heard that herds of them still roam the great American Supermarkets

@rileyernst9086 Жыл бұрын

I am slightly disappointed that it was not in fact early evidence of giant and robust vombatiformes in the Cretaceous. I mean the extinction of the non avian dinosaurs on the continent could then be attributed to an unsustainable spike in leg breakages due to giant wombat holes being all over the countryside.

@GeorgeTheDinoGuy Жыл бұрын

I find it funny how palaeontologists can mess up that badly, still gave a lot of hope to us Dicynodont fans!

@Ballistics_Computer Жыл бұрын

We're all just people. Sure they're heavily specified and highly trained, but everyone makes mistakes. I'm just glad that thanks to the scientific method we don't just accept past mistakes and endeavor to rectify our perception of the fossil record.

@GeorgeTheDinoGuy Жыл бұрын

@@Ballistics_Computer agreed

@raylopez99 Жыл бұрын

@@Ballistics_Computer LOL, Kuhn the science historian would disagree as to this simplistic version of the scientific method. As a modern physicist once observed, science advances one funeral at a time. Largely science is driven by personalities since for anything but incontestable evidence, which by definition cannot be debated, it's all a matter of interpretation. Apatosaurus and Brontosaurus comes to mind, among numerous other exceptions that are the rule not the exception.

@Ballistics_Computer Жыл бұрын

@@raylopez99 schizo

@dodoxasaurus6904 Жыл бұрын

REPRESENT

@joshuaW5621 11 ай бұрын

Dam the thought of a dicynodont surviving in the Cretaceous seemed so cool.

@gattycroc8073 Жыл бұрын

reminds me how South America for the first half of the Cenozoic was a home to many Mesozoic relics like non marsupial metatherians, Notosuchians, and Gondwanatheres.

@sassa82 Жыл бұрын

Dicynodont are so cute. 😊

@robertfisher6538 Жыл бұрын

Especially the females.

@gryphenicedancer8796 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this sort of subject interesting and understandable to us armchair scientists. Fascinating how one little thing can change the understanding of a topic.

@Grand_History Жыл бұрын

It shouldn’t be understated that Australian rocks are known for being hard to date

@mammadingo9165 10 ай бұрын

That's brilliant and funny works on many levels 🤣🤣🤣 love this comment.

@NobleKorhedron 10 ай бұрын

Really? Why is that; what makes Australian rocks so hard to date? Can they fool a Uranium - Lead(U - Pb), or Potassium - Argon (K - Ar) test...?

@Grand_History 10 ай бұрын

@@NobleKorhedron actually I might have been confused when I typed this. I have no idea how well Australian rocks pre-Pleistocene are dated. I remembered I was reading a book at the time that mentioned the difficulty in dating near time Australian specimens, and just opened it up again to see if it specified anything older. It does not. The reason is due to a lack of usable material for radiocarbon dating and they instead have to rely on OSL dating to help fill gaps, which requires quarts samples. But this isn’t as related to the video as I must’ve been thinking at the time. Sorry for the confusion.

@mammadingo9165 10 ай бұрын

@@Grand_History you were quite correct Australians are hard to date 😂

@NobleKorhedron 10 ай бұрын

I don't think radiocarbondating would be useful at all, @@Grand_History; not for these fossils. As I recall, C-14, or other radio-carbon dating requires the remains to be 100K years old or less...? These fossils are at least 130+MA old, possibly even as old as 145MA from immediately after the end of the Jurassic; in view of this, I would think that Ur - Pb or K - Ar dating would be required...?

@biomanslick2838 Жыл бұрын

I'd love to hear more about gorgonopsids, not just inostrancevia, but the smaller species as well. Love your work!

@mammadingo9165 10 ай бұрын

Agreed 👍

@marjae2767 Жыл бұрын

I'd like to see an overview of claims of Paleocene non-avian dinosaurs. I know some teeth turned out to be from land crocs, while some skeletal remains turned out to be reworking. But supposedly there were 11 dinosaur genera above the boundary in Hell Creek, other remains from Aotearoa, etc. P.S. And the Ojo Alamo formation, with attempts to directly date the bones to avoid these issues. P.P.S. And Chatham Island.

@seanmckelvey6618 Жыл бұрын

I really would not be shocked if we eventually found that some non-avian dinosaurs in certain parts of the world made it into the Paleocene. I believe there is some evidence that plant life in Australia and other regions seemed to have weathered the extinction event quite well, so it doesn't seem that strange to me that some dinosaurs held on in small numbers for a bit longer than is currently accepted.

@sqrt2295 Жыл бұрын

@@seanmckelvey6618 There is Qinornis, which was a non-crown Ornithuran that survived to the Paleocene, and thus technically Qinornis is a ''non-avian dinosaur'' if by non-avian you mean outside the true ''Aves''.

@generaldissatisfaction5397 Жыл бұрын

I concur, I would love to see an examination of this topic.

@mammadingo9165 10 ай бұрын

? Reworking? ... I got lost somewhere and am confused as to what your saying?

@mammadingo9165 10 ай бұрын

@@seanmckelvey6618yes the Willamina pine tree.

@richardhaselwood9478 Жыл бұрын

I live in Brisbane. Next time I go the the Brisbane Museum I would love to see these fossils. Ironically, there's a cool dino exhibit on there right now (June 23). Update. I probably should also have guessed the 'true' ending, as there is not a lot of Mesozoic rocks in eastern Australia. It was all uplifted and eroded away during the Tertiary.

@seanmckelvey6618 Жыл бұрын

I mean that's not entirely true, there are plenty of Mesozoic aged rocks in Eastern Australia. I guess it depends on what you count as eastern. Winton for example is arguably far closer to the east coast than it is to central Australia or the west coast.

@richardhaselwood9478 Жыл бұрын

@@seanmckelvey6618 yeah.. Entirely fair and valid point. I've just spent too much of my life in the Bowen Basin where we have the nearly the entire Mesozoic (except for a bit of Triassic immediately above the Permo/Triassic boundary).

@a.r.h9919 Жыл бұрын

Even though is quite likely that the dicynodont was not Cretaceous i don't doubt it's possible in the austral zones like antarctica, zealandia, australia and south america perhaps a dicynodont species could have survived those zones are relative safe zones for ancient taxa like temnospondyls

@Alberad08 Жыл бұрын

Great info - thanks a lot for sharing this!

@lemmingscanfly5 Жыл бұрын

Sick video Benji. Scary wombat. Keep it up.

@douglaswilliams4389 Жыл бұрын

Dicynadons... you roll them... yatsy

@brent9504 Жыл бұрын

Dude, you’re awesome 😊

@robertdean3974 Жыл бұрын

good video

@DAVIDPETERS12C Жыл бұрын

Good job.

@pjenestratsienatie1876 Жыл бұрын

Another interesting fossil that is really confusing would be protoavis maybe you could do a video on it

@evodolka Жыл бұрын

if this is real, then what's with australia, it seems like it WANTS to be known as the country with the weird primitive animals like Marsupials and what not

@denozilla1034 Жыл бұрын

Yo this was a nice story

@1998topornik Жыл бұрын

That's interesting story.

@beckyosborne Жыл бұрын

I always figured bulbasaur was one of these just mon'd

@ColdShadow7 Жыл бұрын

Too much blush sir

@quintenwhyte6660 Жыл бұрын

However;.... Dr. Robert T. Bakker, The Stan Lee of Paleontology, has the theory of how to prevent the narrow thinking that lead to mistakes: ..."The most important thing to look for when you're out digging dinosaurs is the stuff over there and the perphery of your vision. When we go out to dig, maybe we're looking for a giant megalosaur meat eater but what we may be more important is the thing over here... the thing over there... the perperphery of your context. So, when you're digging dinosaurs, you got to have a sort of 360° ecological vision! Look at everything! Be aware of everything!"

@erichtomanek4739 Жыл бұрын

Much sadness that it's not a Dicynodont. Imagine a therapod (or pack!) hunting a herd of these!?

@trunkage 10 ай бұрын

Wow, Australia has super weird animals. Who could have guessed

@user-pp5vl2zf6g 10 ай бұрын

So much for another Romeo’s Gap

@ichwillzocken4510 Жыл бұрын

Cool! ❤❤❤ One question: Could you tell me the name of the background music? Or tell me how to find it. It's superb! Have a nice day and thx for the video. :)

@BenGThomas Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Of course, it's called 'Bright Idea' by Geographer :)

@ichwillzocken4510 Жыл бұрын

@@BenGThomas OMG! :) Thx a lot! It's been more than two years that I discovered your channel and since then, this track has been in my mind - since the first time I heard it, I felt, that it fits extremely well to your content! Listening to it, I instantly feel something like a deep connection with the circle of life lasting for millions and millions of years. It's honestly kinda weird. :)

@djonnyrocket8768 10 ай бұрын

You're a gem

@mellissadalby1402 Жыл бұрын

"The Boneheads" is the greatest name for a group of Peontologists.

@janegael Жыл бұрын

This is a great vide. Science is always looking for the truth. It's the only way we can advance.

@RobertGotschall 11 ай бұрын

So Australia maintains its position as a repository of weird animals, cool.

@kersebleptes1317 Жыл бұрын

Looks like a Coelacanth to me...

@Dr.IanPlect Жыл бұрын

oh dear

@UntetheredRobot Жыл бұрын

If paleontology had a slogan it would be "we were wrong"😂

@Scarlet_Soul Жыл бұрын

Most things do tend to do that

@altithoraxperotorum5133 Жыл бұрын

What happened to your walking with dinosaurs series ?

@BenGThomas Жыл бұрын

I'm still working on them! I've been very busy with university work recently, but I promise the next videos will be coming out fairly soon :)

@thecianinator 10 ай бұрын

WOAH Ben has a face?!

@The_PokeSaurus Жыл бұрын

Hey, I like both creatures.

@TheHauntedHangout_ Жыл бұрын

Hey Ben G would you like to collab if yes tell me your opinions on any prehistoric animal

@Scrinwaipwr 11 ай бұрын

Dammit, I loved that some dicynodonts made it to the late Cretaceous and now the evidence for that is discredited?! Upset! Ain't shooting the messeneger though; thanks for letting me know before I try again to impress someone by telling them about Cretaceous dicynodonts.

@patreekotime4578 Жыл бұрын

Interesting that its still in a mammal-related group. So, other than being completely wrong about everything, they were still in vaguely the right direction. 🤣

@Dr.IanPlect Жыл бұрын

inane crap

@b.a.erlebacher1139 Жыл бұрын

One of the earlier developed mammalian traits is socketed, differentiated teeth that are not continuously replaced. So if you find good jaw and tooth fragments, you should be able to tell if it's a synapsid. I wonder how this Cenozoic animal was found in an early Cretaceous deposit -- maybe it burrowed into it? The real world is such a messy place!

@JayJay-dp8ky 10 ай бұрын

OMG, this dude is a snack!

@chipwalter4490 Жыл бұрын

How about a whole video on diprotodontids ?

@dodoxasaurus6904 Жыл бұрын

My fav extinct clade

@Axgoodofdunemaul Жыл бұрын

Good job everybody.

@thejurassicking916 11 ай бұрын

I still want to believe that the dicynodont survived

@LDrosophila Жыл бұрын

Still a cool amimal

@Joshml98 11 ай бұрын

I didnt know dicynodonts had access to TARDIS technology.

@ambulocetusnatans Жыл бұрын

0:33 I can tell himb a verry goo boi.

@Sirdilophosaurusthethird2.0 Жыл бұрын

So fossls can time travel now

@patricialavery8270 10 ай бұрын

Australia doing its own thing as usual.

@user-ff7is7xe4w Жыл бұрын

My attention was fixed on the picture at 0:13 of an Ichtyosaur. I see a red "shadow" in the middle of that animal. Is it possible that it is the shadow of the animals heart?

@Dr.IanPlect Жыл бұрын

No. It's clearly a result of some process since dying and fossilising. Or maybe the rib bottom right is a second heart.

@biggiebiggs21 Жыл бұрын

heyy lets go!

@aleksitjvladica. Жыл бұрын

What trickery is this?! Did not you already have this video?!

@raphlvlogs271 Жыл бұрын

what differs tusks from canines?

@OakenTome Жыл бұрын

Tusks are often canines, though in elephants they’re incisors. Tusks are just teeth that grow out from the mouth.

@theiathegondia7349 11 ай бұрын

Things always survive in Australia

@greva2904 Жыл бұрын

Well, both species begin with a ‘D’. So at least they got that bit right!

@hellboy7424 10 ай бұрын

The question that assails me is: could these animals be "monotremata"?

@Dr.Ian-Plect 10 ай бұрын

There's no indication of that and they predate monotremes by many millions of years. You should capitalise Monotremata.

@diegodankquixote-wry3242 Жыл бұрын

Time traveling lystrosaurus?

@trilobite3120 Жыл бұрын

Oh I know this!

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana Жыл бұрын

Maybe another synapsid lineage evolved tusks 🦣?

@nomore6258 11 ай бұрын

We know how they time travelled. They went through an Anomaly.

@wilt3051 Жыл бұрын

Woah dose big boys could survive

@t-r-e-x452 Жыл бұрын

Finally something normal besides British new humor.

@sagmilling Жыл бұрын

Australia, pls stop messing with us. I wanted this to be true.

@swede4936 Жыл бұрын

Siiiiiick

@amandastakeonit7402 10 ай бұрын

@roku3216 Жыл бұрын

This is such a good example of convergent evolution.

@Nmethyltransferase Жыл бұрын

The Fossil Who Leapt Through Time

@davewilson9738 Жыл бұрын

I loved dinosaurs as a boy, you are rekindling an old flame, so thank you all.

@fernbedek6302 Жыл бұрын

And then they discover it *was* Cretaceous. Dun-dun-duunnnn.

@Reyma777 Жыл бұрын

If only the dicynodonts didn’t go extinct 😢. With time, they could have evolved true symbiosis with plants and I would be riding a venusaur to work.

@darkiler6663 Жыл бұрын

Next news dicynodonts in Pleistocene 😂

@darkiler6663 Жыл бұрын

breaking news dicynodonts found in modern days !!!

@WAMTAT Жыл бұрын

Dr Who messing with modern people again.

@richjordan6461 11 ай бұрын

Well, that ruined my day

@danmacalpinbruce2555 10 ай бұрын

I have fossile the same as 9 second in. Can anyone tell me what it is?

@Dr.Ian-Plect 10 ай бұрын

Ammonoidea

@danmacalpinbruce2555 10 ай бұрын

@@Dr.Ian-Plect think it be like a shrimp. I hear up to 60 million years old

@Dr.Ian-Plect 10 ай бұрын

@@danmacalpinbruce2555 Then don't state it's like 0:09!

@abraxasjinx5207 Жыл бұрын

I really love your work and videos. Though, watching you talk I feel like I'm watching a Max Headroom bit. Why do you keep gesturing your head around? What are you looking at to your right, our left? Why are you moving your head just to say words? It's making me feel like you're from the uncanny valley, and it's unnerving. Good work, all the same!

@WAMTAT Жыл бұрын

Probably reading from a script