The Four Horseman of the OUpocalypse

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OU is at a unique standstill with itself. These four Pokémon - Zamazenta, Darkrai, Kingambit and Kyurem - all warp the metagame around them for arguably the worse, but if one is banned, the others may become even more OP. Here's my dive into the four most problematic Pokémon of OU: why they are unfun perpetrators of the metagame, what they are capable of and how you can stop them.
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#pokemonshowdown #competitivepokemon
00:00 The OUpocalypse
00:23 Zamazenta
12:43 Darkrai
19:27 Kingambit
28:11 Kyurem
38:24 HM: Gholdengo
40:23 Thoughts? Comment below!

Пікірлер: 75

@zilkay6558 Ай бұрын

zamazenta runs 389 speed to outrun adamant dragonite after a DD.

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

THANK YOU!! Always thought that was a dumb speed number but that makes perfect sense.

@stds Ай бұрын

I think zamazenta runs 389 to outspeed scarf bruxish (I have no idea I made this up.)

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

Looked it up, Scarf *Adamant Brux is 424 speed lol

@gavinliu7743 Ай бұрын

389 spd is run to out speed +1 dd d-nite

@MaahirMomtaz12 Ай бұрын

@@gavinliu7743Adamant*

@Richard-ec8xy Ай бұрын

I find it funny while you were talking about using a 252+ defense skeledirge to take on zamazenta and looking at the calcs talking about good it was, they were for a SPECIALLY DEFENSIVE dirge. What an insane mon

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

What a GOAT. On the other hand, cannot believe I forgot to add the Def EVs LOL

@amadora48 Ай бұрын

this is the blazin kicking chicken of gen 9. literal gold

@nintenster Ай бұрын

The horse council is going crazy

@maro4324 Ай бұрын

This video is giving BKC if he was more familiar with Gen 9

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

I’ll take it, appreciate it homie 🙏

@dhruvhosali2416 Ай бұрын

I was thinking this too

@philliam_ Ай бұрын

Wait heat video title w

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

Kinda cooked ngl

@Smarrels Ай бұрын

Nice video, the amount of times ive seen iron defence zama sweep high level tourney games is disgusting. It 1v1s everything and just takes insane positioning to not get destroyed by it. I'd really like to see it suspected

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

Me too. I’m shocked it hasn’t been at this point considering no suspect test has been ran in quite some time. Maybe it will be in July once usage stats come out and they reflect on them.

@CoralReaper707 Ай бұрын

Darkrai I wouldn't mind seeing go. I personally feel that it doesn't add much to the tier other than being another fast and powerful Pokemon in an already powercrept metagame. Realistically, I feel like Zama would be much more likely to get banned.

@Vincent-fv1ch Ай бұрын

Alternative title: "The four horsemen that keeps OU in check"

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

I kinda touched on this in the vid, but they are really only keeping in each other in check. If one got banned, yes, the meta would probably spiral. If all four were banned, I don’t think much is lost.

@devincharlvanvuuren6194 Ай бұрын

Drifloon +hp +def with strength sap and willo wisp hard stops great tusk and zamazenta, will outspend gambit to land the willowisp. It’s just a really good answer to spinners and physical mons, also it can run defog, knock off and haze, with 3 immunities

@olivergro7105 Ай бұрын

I think you mean drifblim, cause drifoons gets rekt by knock off. Also I think it's quite passive for what it does. Might fit on stall teams tho?

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

It is pretty passive, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t get wrecked by one earlier this week lol

@SilverScarletSpider 27 күн бұрын

zamazenta is overcentralizing: time to bring out the genesect nat dex ou suspect test!

@Mr502 27 күн бұрын

😂😂 wouldn’t even be mad about that tbh

@AroluciB Ай бұрын

This is some nice agency lingo

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

Tyty. We are big Agency fans here at the Club.

@blazie42069 Ай бұрын

You know what is funny? Kyurem is the only one of the four I see as banworthy

@greattitan371 Ай бұрын

Oddly enough it's the one I have the least trouble with of these four.

@BlackHanzo Ай бұрын

Funny enough the mix attack sets were the main reason it got ban last gen so I don't blame you

@The-Samsonian Ай бұрын

Dude do you have a discord server or something you honestly just seem like a naturally chill guy and good at explaining Showdown, I've been playing casually for years because I love making teams and recently started the desire to climb the ladder. I just found your channel through algorithm and this video made me like 2x better just about how you talk about OU Matchups and situations. W Video W Addition to Sub Box

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

I appreciate all the kind words 🙏 check the vid description or my channel links for the Discord server link. If that doesn’t work lmk, seems like I have to refresh it every now and again.

@hakesho Ай бұрын

On the thumbnail Kyurem kinda looked like it was Darkrai's legs and it looked kinda cool.

@FerretTwister Ай бұрын

I saw a choice scarf dragon energy Regidrago in OU. I am now using that on my team because it's a funny gimmick.

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

Lmao that’s actually a perfect counter to all of these except Gambit

@FerretTwister Ай бұрын

@@Mr502 this is true. That's why I myself run the zamazenta. And if that doesn't work we have tera fairy Skeledirge who does have alluring voice and torch song. And meowscarada with brick break.

@Winterbub Ай бұрын

Zamazenta is one of those cases where everyone is trying to speed creep eachother. That’s why it’s at 389 and I’ve seen them go up to 390s. Especially roar sets wanna be faster than other roar sets

@seanyyoung4565 Ай бұрын

You know its a problem when the first thought that entered my brain when thinking of the thumbnail is “man, Zamazenta destroys those 4 and Gholdengo…oh wait”

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

Fr bruh lol

@Mrdonjuliothewicked Ай бұрын

Everybody all tough and gangster till my Zamazenta comes out with Imprison, now they acting all scared.

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

Wait, it has that? No way

@Mrdonjuliothewicked Ай бұрын

@@Mr502I go through phases of wanting to run shit sets just to see if it works by catching people off guard, so that's how I learned he got imprison lmao (spoiler alert it is NOT a banger) Side note, if you ever play natdex, magic room scarf Lele is unironically very good 👍🏻.

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

I’ve used Scarf Magic Room Pokémon before, always a good time for sure lol. Also it’s about to be a banger cause I’m gonna pull it out later this week 😈

@Angelofdeth20 Ай бұрын

I think darkrai is fine but kyurem and zama? Those too I wouldn’t mind seeing go.

@turtle_7777 Ай бұрын

what about wogerpon?

@marcofasulo5785 Ай бұрын

A beginners guide to OU. (aka hell)

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

Really feels like it some days 😂

@TrulyAtrocious Ай бұрын

Kid named ApOUcalypse:

@lesqueegee Ай бұрын

Dude zamazenta is actually so hard to build for and with Tera you need to commit at least two slots to deal with it on a good day. It beats all of the hazard setters and Lu has to commit to Tera poison just to hopefully check it for longer in the game. Sub sets auto win so many games, 4 attack is always solid, roar potentially beats all other zama, the flexibility is absurd. Of the four I hate facing zama the most, but I understand the cases being made against other mons.

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

Oh 1000% Zamazenta is the worst offender here. The other three aren’t fun, but Zama is a whole different beast. Would be very surprised if it isn’t suspected after July shifts.

@trains3377 Ай бұрын

i would say its rather uncontriversial to place Sucker punch as the Best MOVE Of All Time, priority moves aside

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

If you’re factoring in distribution, I could get behind that, yeah. I walked it back with “priority moves” because Thunderclap and Jet Punch may be better as standalone moves.

@TrulyAtrocious Ай бұрын

Stealth Rock, Gen 1 Japanese Blizzard, VoltFlipTurn, Knock Off, Scald Is sucker punch better than these moves?

@trains3377 Ай бұрын

@@TrulyAtrocious these options allow progress towards winning the game. sucker punch wins games.

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

While that is true @trains3377, I kinda have to agree with @TrulyAtrocious actually. Stealth Rock single-handedly decided which Pokémon types could be used (and what removal Pokémon would have to be used with these disadvantaged types) for four generations. I think the case for it and U-Turn are easier to argue.

@trains3377 Ай бұрын

@Mr502 that's very fair, hazards overall (mostly spike/rocks) have been meta defining since their introduction. I would absolutely say that 50% of the game is won in the Teambuilder, and a move so powerful that it can influence choices in the builder is a insane power. Thinking about it more I think hazard moves overall are stronger than Sucker Punch. Tbh sub is stronger than Sucker because it totally shuts it down, and it can win games in 1 turn in the right situation.

@Eggscramblercomms Ай бұрын

It’s fucking maddening trying to use something like weavile or meowscarada and losing games are because somehow 383 speed, a benchmark almost all Pokémon can’t even hit, is too low. You don’t want to take that Speed tie with darkrai, it’s fat for how strong and fast it is and god knows what kind of spread any given zamazenta might be running There are so many Pokémon that single-handedly put the same restraints on what you’re allowed to put into a team builder together as the other thirtysome pokemon forming the metagame

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

True. We might even see Meow and Weav drop tomorrow for those exact reasons.

@TheYveltalKid Ай бұрын

3/4ths of these are legendaries, its j-ou-ver

@mugiwaraLux 26 күн бұрын

They aren’t even horses. I’m very disappointed now

@Mr502 26 күн бұрын

Kyurem’s kinda a horse…

@doggo4127 Ай бұрын

Where's waterpon?

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

Waterpon could probably be an honorable mention. However, I don’t think it’s meta warping or too OP. It’s scary for stall teams but that’s about it, everything else it’s just one of many good offensive set-up options.

@spit-fire Ай бұрын

Tera is fun until one of these guys use it

@progskep Ай бұрын

I’m going to preface this by saying I’ve never been particularly great at the game. The highest I’ve ever been is like, 1400. But for what it’s worth I actually love Kingambit. I think it’s a blast to both use, and play against, I think the 50/50 game can be fun and adrenaline pumping, just hoping you click the right move and out mind-game your opponent to win. I also just love its badass design and lore. Super cool in that regard too. Personally I hope he stays.

@edwardy528 Ай бұрын

its not even a 50/50 the kingambit player has a 8/9 chance of winning

@Mr502 Ай бұрын

@edwardy528 now I wanna do a vid analyzing the odds of fighting Sucker Punch lol

@greattitan371 Ай бұрын

It's never a mind game with Gambit. If you just click sucker punch 8 times in a row you've got like a 95% chance of winning.