The Friedman Tone! (Amp vs Preamp vs Pedal)

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Thanks for watching my comparison of the Friedman JJ JR Jerry Cantrell signature tube amp head vs the IR-X tube preamp vs the BE-OD Deluxe distortion pedal! Do you need the full amp to experience that signature Friedman sound? Let me know your thoughts in the comments below! Cheers!
My review of the Friedman IR-X preamp: • Does The Friedman IR-X...
My review of the Friedman JJ JR: • Does Jerry Cantrell's ...
Gear used in this video:
- Gibson Les Paul Custom
- Friedman JJ JR
- Friedman IR-X
- Friedman BE-OD Deluxe
- Orange Rocker 15 Terror head
- ML Drums by ML Sound Lab
- Cubase 13 Pro
- OwnHammer Impulse Responses
- RedSeven Amplification Amp Central reactive load
- Klotz Cables & DI Box
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An original song of mine with me on vocals: • My First Song w/Vocals...
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Disclaimer: this video isn't sponsored but I got the IR-X from B.A.D. amps to keep. As always all thoughts and opinions are 100% my own!
Timecodes:
00:00 Do You Need To Pay More For The TRUE Friedman Sound?
00:16 The Friedman JJ JR Full Tube Amplifier Head
01:20 The IR-X Tube Preamp Pedal
03:08 Friedman JJ JR vs IR-X Preamp
05:09 Thoughts?
06:03 BE-OD Deluxe Distortion Pedal
07:42 Friedman JJ JR vs BE-OD Deluxe (Orange Rocker 15 Terror)
09:43 Thoughts?
10:35 Friedman IR-X vs BE-OD Deluxe (Orange Rocker 15 Terror)
12:36 Final Thoughts And Conclusion
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@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

What are your thoughts? Do you need the full amp?

@Clinthopanonymous 2 ай бұрын

Nope... That pedal sounds great!

@BumbiPuck 2 ай бұрын

Conclusion, Friedman overall sounds great! the only thing I "missed" was the IR-X into the orange. Basically, would it still be that big of a difference between the pedals? Still, Great video, and channel!

@timh4369 Ай бұрын

I have a 100 watt tube amp,a Quad Cortex and just recently bought a IR X. They are all great but at this point in time I’ll probably use the IR X out at gigs since it is so portable and sounds awesome .

@ShawnShipstad Ай бұрын

Sure you are going to get close to the JJ. This is the weakest amp Friedman makes. It is a good and cheap way to put your toe in the water. You do not need to have the Friedman tone to get pussy. Some people are calling this box the @ Dirty Shirley`s in one. HA HA.!!!

@sjorda12 2 ай бұрын

What we need is the JJ-X! Same form factor as the IR-X but one channel is BE mode and other channel is JBE mode…

@stevierylifts9652 2 ай бұрын

incredible concept

@Burkhimself 2 ай бұрын

They sound super close to me

@RegalEagle1979 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for demoing how these products really sound! Most guys promising comparisons just get on here and wank off fancy arpeggios and speed drills - which helps nobody decide anything and just strokes the ego of the KZfaqr. You're a real one. Keep up the good work!

@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@smeemusic 2 ай бұрын

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. It speaks volumes for the gear when you can forget you’re listening to a gear review and you’re just sorta jammin out to the demo track. Some gear just works like it should and it’s easy to get into the song. Other stuff though can kinda have qualities that stick out in less pleasant ways. This makes it harder to just sit back and enjoy the song. I got to enjoy the music through this whole video. I guess the gear passes the vibe check. lol

@JJDon5150 2 ай бұрын

I've actually had all three of these pedals, and still have the IR-X and Friedman JJ Jr. The main thing the JJ Jr has over the IR-X is the bigger low end and mids. I noticed that listening back to my recordings with my band, the JJ Jr. is easier to hear than the IR-X. That said, the IR-X is the next best solution to a real tube amp and I'd take it any day over a multi-effects pedal, like a FM9, Quad Cortex, Kemper, etc. I have the FM9 and while it sounds good, it takes a lot of works to get a good sound, whereas you can just turn on the IR-X and either go into a tube amp or direct to FOH/PA and it sounds good without any work.

@steven_uk 20 күн бұрын

Do you ever make videos for live performance setups? Like running modelers into the fx return of an amp and micing the cabinet? That would be an interesting video.

@needsLITHIUM 2 ай бұрын

Orange amps have really great clean channels, and their single channel amps really do clean up well. Rocker 15 Terror, Dark Terror, Dual Terror 30, OR15/30, Micro Dark/Terror Stamp, Super Crush/Pedal Baby, etc. I feel like they're honestly underrated as pedal platform amps, or amps you can set to edge of break up and use the neck for clean and the bridge pickup through an OD pedal for gain, likely because they already sound good for high gain. They're really versatile, and that says a lot in regard to their value proposition IMO.

@hannesganahl6384 2 ай бұрын

Great comparison, thank you!

@dylanjastle 2 ай бұрын

I always appreciate side-to-side comparisons with pieces of gear

@svenzia 2 ай бұрын

Thanks SDS, always top-videos!

@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ianlahaye9476 2 ай бұрын

I think we can. all agree: if it has the Friedman name on it, it can be trusted. All three sound great!

@gerrydaly5409 2 ай бұрын

Great comparison video, I own the BE-OD pedal and I love it

@travisbertolino333 2 ай бұрын

These comparison videos are awesome! You helped me find an amp I really love (Orange TH30). I really appreciate that you always use the same IR for easy comparison especially between different videos. Keep up the great work🤘🏻

@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

Cheers!

@stevenneufeld3791 20 сағат бұрын

love the playing!

@sir.shreddington 2 ай бұрын

Awesome demo, dude! I love the IR-X and the price point is perfect

@robertdonosobuchner3129 2 ай бұрын

Interesting comparison! The preamp sound really good...

@moreguitarplease6199 2 ай бұрын

Every tone in this video sounds great imo. The head is killer!

@Teddy-be1wv 28 күн бұрын

Good comparison

@terryconnell 2 ай бұрын

I agree with your opinion on these three, and want to compliment you on this particular composition - its a great sounding track.

@x-Gingerbeard-x 2 ай бұрын

All of them are excellent, but the amp definitely takes the cake for me. It sounds so alive!

@ashleyjackson8538 2 ай бұрын

The full amp is a monster ! If you got a small entry level amp. You can get the best out of it from the pedal .

@derek_d 2 ай бұрын

The IR-X compared exactly how I thought it would to the JJ Jr. The BE is a darker and smoother amp and that's exactly what the IR-X sounded like. The JJ is quite a bit more aggressive, which is why metal players tend to like it more than the BE. What surprised me was the BE-OD. I thought it sounded the most aggressive of the bunch. Definitely fizzier than the JJ but I think that sizzle made it cut a bit better. I wonder how much of that sound is from the Orange power amp? Would've been cool to hear it through the JJ's, instead. Interesting!

@explorervango880 2 ай бұрын

I have that same Sweetwater exclusive version of the BE-OD Deluxe pedal with my Fender Blues Deluxe. I do also have a Friedman amp. BE100D. All of them sound good.

@SimonSawal 2 ай бұрын

I own the BE-OD pedal and it’s really my go to for that british crunch sound and channel 2 for high gain singing leads

@JN-qj9gf 2 ай бұрын

I agree with your assessment of the differences. I like the harder sound of the SS pedal/orange combo though, just leans a tad more direct and aggressive rather than lush and organic.

@mhoff7722 2 ай бұрын

Great comparison. I agree they all sound great especially if you’re just recording. You can tweak them in a mix to get them very close to each other. I have the JJjr and the BE od live in the room. The amp is the best solution for me. The BE od into the JJ clean channel is definitely sterile sounding compared to the real amp. The IRX into a tube amp sounds awesome as it should because you basically have a full tube amp there as you said. 🤘🤘🤘

@TheMasamir 2 ай бұрын

I wish Friedman amps were not ridiculously expensive. I ordered the friedman BE-100 Deluxe back in the day, while it was amazing, I couln't bring my self to live with that price tag. Sent it back and got three amplifieres for the same amount of money (Bogner GF SL, Silver Jubilee and ENGL SE). I basicly covered three different styles of gain with less money. And I also got the friedman Pedal which sounds amazing with the GF, since it has an amazing clean channel. You are absolutely right about trying to match the pedal with the right amp (The BE pedal sounds kinda bad with the Marshall, cause the amp colours the sound too much). Sorry for the long post. Great videa as always! :)

@grim.whizzy 2 ай бұрын

Thanks Jon... As always I enjoyed your video. That was quite helpful to me. I wonder if you could get this sound with an HX stomp with the Placater Dirty amp model. Would love to see that in a comparison. ❤

@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

I once compared the Placater Dirty amp to the JJ JR here on the channel. Sounded really close!

@grim.whizzy 2 ай бұрын

Oh... I missed that. Will dig into it right away. Have a great weekend.

@OldDawg-mc3dy Ай бұрын

Unless the BEOD pedal has changed you can get more gain out of the pedal if you open it up and turn the trim pots clockwise

@flaviosozigam771 2 ай бұрын

Killer!

@littlebritain64 2 ай бұрын

Wow! The IR-X sounds exactly the same, some times a very little darker, that Is not necesserely a bad thing. But the Be-OD is fantastic! It Is clear and You can feel an additional awesome punch in some frequencies comparing to the Friedman amp! So I slightly prefer the second pedal, but It Is a personal taste! And using the eq section probably they could sound exactly the same. Thanks for the well done test!

@KreativeDevices 2 ай бұрын

🔥

@ShawnShipstad Ай бұрын

In the event I owned a cleaner sounding amplifier-Maybe a Fender Mustang, this would be good run through the FX loop. I think it may be close to having 2+2= 4 amps, if the Friedman IR is dialed in properly. The IR needs a delay to make it sound real, In my opinion. These are about 500.00 now.-I have already seen one being sold as used 75.00 less.-In the event you can wait (I sure can) pick one of these up for 350.00?? might be a good way to update your rig. If you want to go into the Friedman direction. Believe it or not. there are people that can live with out a Friedman amp tone, and still get laid. Unlike some people.

@peterrovaniemi138 2 ай бұрын

nice video! Seems like a Friedman IR-X into a Marshall origin 50 will get you a Friedman amp, or at least 90% of it. Would love to see you try that, if you have that amp available :D

@Margilio5150 2 ай бұрын

Incredible how close both the IR-X and the BE-OD sound, but still the amp sounds better to me, or maybe I’m biased and it depends on how you use them 😅

@Kami_81 2 ай бұрын

To my ear, the BE distortion pedal sounded pretty close to the IRX.

@denverrandy7143 2 ай бұрын

Damn that pedal is great

@joeywilder9708 2 ай бұрын

Jon your recorded tones always sound so amazing. I’ve been recording with the captor x for a long time and have been thinking about buying an amp central for quite some time now. Would you say the difference in sound quality is worth it? I just need someone to convince me haha. How big of a difference could you tell when you got yours compared to what you used before?

@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

I did a comparison on the channel a few years back but yeah, the R7 sounds much better imho

@joeywilder9708 2 ай бұрын

@@SonicDriveStudio I actually use room 1 from the York mv30 pack in IR B slot dialed back to -9db and blend that with every Rockbox IR I use. I find it makes it sound more full and realistic. It’s too bad OwnHammer doesn’t offer any kind of room mics in their packs. Maybe with a better loadbox I wouldn’t need to do that and I’m just compensating for whatever I’m missing from the captor x? Not sure really. Have you ever tried that method with any room IRs? I definitely gotta try that R7 though. I wonder if the suhr RLIR would get me there? It’s a bit cheaper. Not stereo though and not as many features.

@blackmagic8039 2 ай бұрын

Do you think you can get the same sound as the rocker with the Orange Super Crush 100 and BE-OD Deluxe?

@stevierylifts9652 2 ай бұрын

Hello, did you reamp DI tracks using the fractal AXE FX for each of the amps in this demo? Great method if so.. cheers!

@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

Yes

@thatguy1558 2 ай бұрын

I knew if anyone would make this video, it'd be you! 🎉

@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

I hope you enjoy it!

@thatguy1558 2 ай бұрын

@@SonicDriveStudio I very much did! As always.

@riverstone5994 2 ай бұрын

well well well, if it isn't the highest production quality gear channel on youtube

@redkurn 2 ай бұрын

I like that jj, but I never really have the be model a chance on helix. Oddly want the ir-x for the form factor, but could definitely get by with the pedal. 🤔

@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

The Placater on the Helix is really good!

@sleepwait9613 2 ай бұрын

Hi John, i noticed you you had the bass control dimed on the JJ, any reason for that? I'd prefer the ir-x for recording purposes based on the sound alone, can't comment on the feelling and response which might be different with the amp. 20watt amps are great to collect though...

@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

Bass at 11 sounds the best! I stole my settings from Jerry

@M3atbucket 2 ай бұрын

Now you just need to add the Synergy module! But the JJ Jr. sounded the best easily.

@llnkv_ Ай бұрын

have you tried KSR Vesta? If so, what do you think is better, Vesta or IR-X? Thx!

@Bognerman14 2 ай бұрын

Great video. However, give a Splawn a try. I've replaced a Friedman with a Splawn as my next Marshall based amp.

@rangerdoc1029 2 ай бұрын

Sick of fighting the volume beast

@lorenmorgan1931 2 ай бұрын

The BE-OD sounds like a Friedman, but has the least headroom, which is expected being a solid state. The the IR-X is unbelievably close, to the full Amp, albeit slightly less headroom. But end of the day, Im blown away at how well even the solid state performs. I wonder how much the Orange tubes added to it though? Moral of the story, buy anything Friedman and you will be happy.

@vmathias2023 2 ай бұрын

I have the Rocker Terror head. That BE OD through the terror sounds just as good as that Friedman head. The Freidman head is a little thicker,but the tone comparison is very close. Start adding some basic effects, and it would be very difficult to hear a difference.

@clydewilliams7061 2 ай бұрын

I personally liked the BE-OD best out of all 3

@johnnyjrsummerville 2 ай бұрын

All sound good, but the amp sounds great, didn't have that one on my radar, that's gonna change now!

@johnnyjrsummerville 2 ай бұрын

Just got your Heavy Legends Vol. 2 Tonex collection, great work on the JJ already playing it!

@TheLotusEater725 2 ай бұрын

The Head unit sound brighter, maybe a bit better note separation, but i feel like you could easily get 99.9999% of the head's sound with the right EQ and IR tweaks.

@07dhiraj 2 ай бұрын

BE OD was awesome..IRX sounded less bright!! 🎉🎉😊😊

@progpogs 2 ай бұрын

Just a reminder of how good the JJ Jr is.

@burtosu86guitar 2 ай бұрын

Now I have to buy something from Friedman 😅

@papalytic7767 2 ай бұрын

The pedal has a mid range hump that i didnt like in this situation. The amp was naturally more aggressive than the others but the irx was damn close

@medabroud9855 2 ай бұрын

Be od deluxe used with 18v or 9v ?

@SonicDriveStudio 2 ай бұрын

18v

@fritzhieke7209 5 күн бұрын

Amp and IR-X are not tone and level matched. Why?

@stm113 2 ай бұрын

They all sound good but neither of the pedals can touch the amp. The BE OD has that "congested" kindof tone, like there are too many frequeincies present. Funny thing is I liked the IR-x better than the BE OD when you were comparing to the amp though the amp wins hands down but when head to head against eachother I liked the BE OD better. Good example of how perspective and context has a huge effect on your choices.

@dalejacksonmo 2 ай бұрын

they all sound good but amp is better

@user-by6eb6zo7g 2 ай бұрын

All sound good... but amp for sure.

@TheOtherJohnBrowne 2 ай бұрын

TWO BAMPS

@eryckcrypton6412 2 ай бұрын

😂 two bamplifiers

@styxx8445 Ай бұрын

So no clean sounds then? 😮

@thewrit6946 2 ай бұрын

Jj Jr rips

@draper858 2 ай бұрын

Much looser low end from orange, and compressed if that is what you want

@draper858 2 ай бұрын

From orange I mean

@tomix1970pl1 2 ай бұрын

Orange sound sick in this video.And is hell of a chipper.

@electricmeatpuppet 2 ай бұрын

I only have the original BE-OD Deluxe... but man I can tell you that thing through the power section of my Hiwatt absolutely rips (also higher wattage for producing those low freqs)... I'm glad you showed it through a different amplifier. There is definitely a difference in low end response, although I notice the bass is totally cranked on the amp. It was less apparent between the two preamps. If anything I feel most people are using these for recording so it prob fits better in a mix - at least in these examples. When playing the BE-OD through my Hiwatt (or otherwise) up loud, you wouldn't know to be honest though because it just sounds monstrous to begin with in person.