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The Future of Brisbane: 9 Game changing Projects that Will Transform the City

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Talking Tactics with Mel Pikos

Talking Tactics with Mel Pikos

Күн бұрын

Brisbane, Australia is making a play to become Australia's new top city. In this video, we take a comprehensive look at the major projects shaping the future of the city. From the exciting new Brisbane Live Arena to the transformative Gabba redevelopment, the cutting-edge New Performing Arts Venue, we explore the urban redevelopment that is putting Brisbane on the map. We also delve into the possible third terminal at the Brisbane Airport, which promises to bring improved transportation and connectivity to the city. With a focus on innovation, sustainability, and inclusiveness, we discuss how these projects are driving economic growth, boosting tourism, and fostering a vibrant culture and entertainment scene. Whether you're a resident, a visitor, or simply interested in the development of one of Australia's most dynamic cities, this video is a must-watch for anyone who wants to learn more about the exciting future of Brisbane. Check it out because today we're Talking Tactics.
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@benraistrick1158
@benraistrick1158 Жыл бұрын
As a British Architecture Grad that moved to Brisbane 6 months ago, I learned more from this video that I have with my independent research in the last 3 months! I hope there is more content about Brissy Development in future!
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ben! We’ll be sure to keep you up to date with all that’s happening in Brisbane 😊 welcome to Bris-Vegas!
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 why does CRR and Metro benefit the southside more than the northside?
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 why does CRR and Metro benefit the southside more than the northside? I think its because people on the northside prefer driving
@hakohito
@hakohito 6 ай бұрын
I'm going to start studying Civil Engineering but I also wanted Architecture 😭
@craigdewit2502
@craigdewit2502 Жыл бұрын
Agree about keeping the Gabba the way it is and a new stadium above the new Brisbane Underground. Smart thinking! 👍🏻
@vinayshsureshram277
@vinayshsureshram277 Жыл бұрын
Sydney and Melbourne won't be the only global Australian cities after 2032. Go Brissie! Great video as usual Mel!
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Vinaysh! Agree, Brisbane is on the up!
@darrylphillips3423
@darrylphillips3423 Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 Meanwhile the cities and towns in Regional Queensland continue to decay from neglect from the SEQ government.
@MrRadialdrift
@MrRadialdrift Жыл бұрын
Yeah, only $3 million for a house in Tarragindi. Truly becoming such an affordable and liveable city for the top 1%.
@RenegadeRanga
@RenegadeRanga Жыл бұрын
Anyone with a head should be trying to move to Adelaide or Perth Problem is by the time all this is done and Brisbane explodes housing affordability will be beyond shot.
@christopher59
@christopher59 Жыл бұрын
Lmao bruise will always be under the shadows of Sydney and Melbourne
@selbie
@selbie Жыл бұрын
Speaking of electrified transport, the big uptake of electric scooters and bikes would be a good chance for Brisbane to link together all of its existing dedicated bikeways. Mainly for safety off the roads, but also it would make a huge dent in traffic congestion if more people felt comfortable accessing locations via bike. It may not be a grand architectural or engineering feat, but it would be a huge win for our massive sprawling city - one of the largest urban sprawls in the world.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
There are definitely big plans to improve this with the new Woolloongabba PDA, to come out end of this year! Huge connections from the Gabba to Suncorp Stadium.
@theokleoudis4967
@theokleoudis4967 Жыл бұрын
Yes, safety is a priority, but at the same time, visual pollution by dumped scooters can be an eyesore and hazard.
@PurpleGold.
@PurpleGold. Жыл бұрын
@@theokleoudis4967 I agree.
@EugeneRadicke
@EugeneRadicke 7 ай бұрын
I like the idea of a second Gabba Stadium. Instead of leaving a ugly blank canvas it would be more appropriate to build a second Gabba stadium
@Dim-yz6wk
@Dim-yz6wk 17 күн бұрын
Excellent idea 👌
@lexchambers8329
@lexchambers8329 Жыл бұрын
Great video, I agree with you the new Stadium needs to be 70,000 to 80,000 seat, all the new developments will make Brisbane a Truely Global City
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Lex!
@gregorystott4238
@gregorystott4238 Жыл бұрын
I agree it's stupid only 50000 seat needs to be 60000 n up
@kennethlee298
@kennethlee298 Жыл бұрын
Brisbane is truly coming into its own. Excited to see its continued growth!
@watevz221
@watevz221 Жыл бұрын
Traffic will eventually become like Melbourne
@paulwilliams5208
@paulwilliams5208 Жыл бұрын
its own mr magoo crazy town, sorry limiting vehicle across the river when it is the public transport is the jamming facture, peak hour busses line the bridge and "replacing" the 111&160(same route) with just a bigger bus - (oh the Olympics that is going to be a shit how)
@davidcarson9342
@davidcarson9342 Жыл бұрын
Great video - I was aware of most of these projects but a really good summary that paints a picture of a city on the move. There are a lot of comments comparing Brisbane to Sydney and Melbourne. Each of these cities has its own great and not so great aspects. As a former Sydney-sider living in Brisbane for the last 15 years, I can’t see Brisbane overtaking Sydney or Melbourne in terms of size or ‘global recognition’ - and I’m totally fine with that. The best thing that urban planners in Brisbane can do is to forget the comparisons with any other city and focus on making the best version of Brisbane possible by providing this great infrastructure while maintaining as much of Brisbane’s heritage and greenery as possible. The next ten years are literally a once in a lifetime opportunity and it would be sad to see decision making unduly influenced by trying to keep up with what’s happening elsewhere.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Time for Brisbane to shine. We certainly have the opportunity to be a viable alternative to Sydney and Melbourne.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 why does CRR and Metro benefit the southside more than the northside?
@cieview7504
@cieview7504 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of keeping the Gabba and building a new larger stadium over the new Gabba station. I'm also looking forward to all these projects coming together and transforming this beautiful city. They'll be the launch pad for even better things to come
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Brisbane is on the rise!
@YazzyYou
@YazzyYou Жыл бұрын
Space is at a premium there. I don't think a second stadium is efficient use of that expensive area, especially not if such a stadium is going to be empty most of the time. Besides: no one would want to live that close to 2 massive stadiums generating noise if ever both are in use.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 why does CRR and Metro benefit the southside more than the northside?
@jayfielding1333
@jayfielding1333 Жыл бұрын
Queen's Wharf looks amazing.
@vinayshsureshram277
@vinayshsureshram277 Жыл бұрын
Indeed! Looking forward to the opening later this year!
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait!
@roseogrady8785
@roseogrady8785 Жыл бұрын
Got to Love Brisbane.
@briannahoy3923
@briannahoy3923 Жыл бұрын
Brisbane... the place to be!
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 Жыл бұрын
Great place to raise families also. So much variety and something for everyone..
@stevepearce6689
@stevepearce6689 Жыл бұрын
I want to move to Brisbane ! hang on I am already here !
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Hahah, good reason to stay!
@Dim-yz6wk
@Dim-yz6wk 17 күн бұрын
Me too. Kangaroo Pt. It would be great to have a Kangaroo Point subway station 🎉
@flixon3795
@flixon3795 Жыл бұрын
As a Brisbane resident i am excited yet also hate the idea of us getting bigger, I like us being a less busy but still major city but then again there are so many improvements that this would bring with it
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
The secret is out, everyone is moving here! Let’s share our amazing city 😊
@flixon3795
@flixon3795 Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 no
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 Жыл бұрын
Progress is good 👍
@tanoz1440
@tanoz1440 Жыл бұрын
Brisbane needs to focus on better public transport infrastructure especially in the outer suburbs of the south west, traffic is becoming a nightmare, they need a railway line all the way to Beaudesert.
@keithbond9174
@keithbond9174 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoy and follow your comments, enthusiasm and energy in placing Brisbane in its rightful place in the Australian landscape. Sydney and Melbourne are too self absorbed in their importance and forget there are cities and regions which deserve aknowledgement. The Gabba redevelopment needs to be reimagined into a mega stadium. Brisbane Live is the perfect project to cover the unsightly rail lines. Keep up your inspirational dialogue with the local Olympic board and government. Re transport, what has happened to the underground rail line from St Lucia through West End and CBD , New Farm and Newstead to Hamilton North Shore? This would provide Brisbane with one of the best connected public transport systems.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
It certainly would be nice to connect those precincts, Keith! I think the Metro project is our best shot. A lot more affordable to deliver over heavy rail and gives us the flexibility to adapt routes as required. Appreciate the kind words as well.
@MrRadialdrift
@MrRadialdrift Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Brisbane needs a MEGA Stadium, when the Gabba can't even reach 50% attendance levels for sporting events. But yeah, lets build a 90,000 seat stadium that will have 70,000 empty seats for sporting events. Great logic. Also, Brisbane will never have a good transport system, while we have morons making decisions at the helm. Lets build an expensive busway system that directly competes with the train network, instead of feeding the train network. Have you been to Newstead lately? 15-20 High rise residential towers, and not a single cent spent on improving the infrastructure. As long as the Polly's get rich by selling off to the Asian market to make a quick buck, this city will remain a dumb city. You should get a job with the QLD Government and continue the traditional of moronic developments and do stupid things like, Lets host an Olympics. Only one Olympics has ever made a profit, the rest all debt. It took Quebec 40 years to pay off the debt from the 1976 Olympics. Brisbane the Smart City.
@grahamjeffries1058
@grahamjeffries1058 Жыл бұрын
Brisbane is an amazing progressive city. Has so much going for it. Climate, employment opportunities, sporting events. This was a quick wrap of the projects which was really too fast to take in the structure of each 1 especially if not from the city. It does make sense to build a separate stadium over the railway station as the cost involved for just an extra 8k capacity is quite ridiculous. An 80k capacity stadium seems a lot now but in the decades to come, it will become filled to capacity especially if teams like the AFL Brisbane Lions are very successful. Even 70k capacity. The stadium won't be completed until the end of the decade and Brisbane's population will be closer to 3M by then. 4M to 5M by 2040.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
100%. We need to future proof the capacity, not limit it. We need to think BIG!
@slaw38
@slaw38 Жыл бұрын
You're right. The gabba upgrade is ridiculous. Youre idea about a new stadium over the road is a great idea. Probably cost the same as the gabba upgrade but have 2 stadiums instead of one. Whats planned for above the gabba train station?
@bobkatter8521
@bobkatter8521 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree mate it’s ridiculous. A 50k capacity Olympic stadium is a national embarrassment.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Green space is planned above Cross River Rail at the Gabba. Not sure why you’d deliver huge mass transit and no significant structures to compliment the use of mass rapid transit? Seems like a wasted opportunity to me.
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 Жыл бұрын
Agree. Either go big or go home..
@JamesFFiT
@JamesFFiT Жыл бұрын
Gabba is currently rediculous as it’s not disability friendly and no proper female change rooms! It was designed for men! No other choice but to make it for the Paralympians! Did you see the government Roundtable is march? Brisbane 2032 is going to be the change we need in terms of acceptance of people living with a disability!
@jayone8891
@jayone8891 Жыл бұрын
the thing about the Gabba is, it's Iconic. Having a newer, larger stadium next to it would minimise the Gabbas importance and would look a bit odd. Happy to just have the upgrade.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jay, I'm certainly still looking forward to the "new" Gabba!
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 Жыл бұрын
Shame it was built mostly in a run down Industry estate back in the day 😮
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 why does CRR and Metro benefit the southside more than the northside?
@stevetyrrell1560
@stevetyrrell1560 Жыл бұрын
Nice Mel. Brisbane looks to be a world class option for residents and business, exciting times.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Glad to be here in Brissy!
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 why does CRR and Metro benefit the southside more than the northside?
@Cecilioconc
@Cecilioconc Жыл бұрын
A pedestrian bridge between New Farm and Hawthorne or Teneriffe and Bulimba would be great
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
I’d support that for sure! Morningside to Northshore Hamilton via a Metro Green Bridge would be ideal as well.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 why does CRR and Metro benefit the southside more than the northside?
@christianlewis7055
@christianlewis7055 Жыл бұрын
Moved here a year ago from Melbourne and I'm keen to stay. I think the place is fantastic! Love the weather, love South Bank, love the thorough integration of greenery in all areas of the city and suburbs. I've still got so much more to explore.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Brisbane, Christian!
@meletiospikos6369
@meletiospikos6369 Жыл бұрын
Can it hurry up and be 2029 already! Exciting stuff ahead
@RenegadeRanga
@RenegadeRanga Жыл бұрын
Brisbane will become a decent alternative to Melbourne and Sydney, especially Sydney which is a hole with absurd real estate costs and half the road network owned and run by transurban. That aside Brisbane also provides great access to the Gold and Sunshine Coasts.
@pizzaki582
@pizzaki582 Жыл бұрын
just need more slum towers and meth heads and bam... sydney here we come.
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 Жыл бұрын
These southern cities are becoming increasingly more communist.. The Qld heat seems to scare them away 😅😅
@brendanmichaelwelsh6260
@brendanmichaelwelsh6260 Жыл бұрын
Alot of Brisbanes roads are *also* owned and tolled by Transurban....
@Sharpshooter99100
@Sharpshooter99100 10 ай бұрын
Its all true, but the Gold Coast is a haven for crime.
@dylandavies2635
@dylandavies2635 Жыл бұрын
You are 100% correct with the looped metro idea! That is a perfect route, makes so much sense!
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dylan, would love to see it get off the ground!
@Nicholas_Frizzell
@Nicholas_Frizzell Жыл бұрын
Can't believe how they justify an 8,000 seating increase in a stadium worth billions of dollars when, like you said, right next door they could build a flashy new one that caters to much more people and still keep the existing Gabba. To me, that's a clear sign of keeping promises to developers and land owners as opposed to looking after Brisbane's best interests.
@Nicholas_Frizzell
@Nicholas_Frizzell Жыл бұрын
Great video by the way 👍🏼
@bobkatter8521
@bobkatter8521 Жыл бұрын
Every Olympic stadium is 80-100k and in 2032 we’re gonna present to the world a relatively tiny 50k stadium.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
50k stadium is very short sighted. Let’s future proof this mofo by making it BIG!
@daveb3987
@daveb3987 Жыл бұрын
I like your stadium suggestion. Definitely the right idea!
@sarcasmo57
@sarcasmo57 Жыл бұрын
Not only that, the botanical gardens got a new bin.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
You can never have too many bins!
@chilloioi
@chilloioi Жыл бұрын
OH NO!!!!!!my hubby and I are moving to Brisbane from Sydney this end of the month, and honestly the amount of people we told about our move who said negative things about Brisbane is appalling. Like why can’t other people just wish us well. It’s so sad of how sometimes people can be so insensitive and rude. I do not know if we are right with our decision, but this is what we find best for us right now. Sydney has become so expensive for us. I just hope Brisbane is not as bad as what all the other people here in Sydney had been telling us. They say Brisbane has the highest crime rate now and full of racists and no sense of culture and boring. Like who the heck wants to hear that when we are about to start our family life in Brisbane! Anyway, reading all the comments here cements our decision to move to Brissy. 🙏🏻
@Sharpshooter99100
@Sharpshooter99100 10 ай бұрын
Brisbane and virtually all of QLD has a crime rate through the roof. But if you can get passed that, it is an increbibly beautiful City with lots going on. As well as good job prospects and climate. I lived there for 2 yrs and that was enough for me. But best of luck, if you find a nice area i'm sure you'll love it.
@chilloioi
@chilloioi 10 ай бұрын
@@Sharpshooter99100 Been living in Brisbane now for more than a month and so far, I love the climate. Sadly, it is true, the crime rate here is really high..it is actually scary. We weren’t able to research well..we are planning to move to a different suburb, hopefully it will be a better one. Living costs is lower than Sydney, and better pay here surprisingly. That’s it so far but thanks for wishing us good luck!🙏🏻
@Sharpshooter99100
@Sharpshooter99100 10 ай бұрын
@@chilloioi I'm sure you'll get on fine. Find a nice suburb and you're all set! I never came across any issues during my time there, and loved it. Only good memories. Came back as the humidity was too much for me. When choosing a suburb bear in mind flood risk too! They've had some bad ones there. Hope you're settling in though it's a nice city. Gotta be positive.
@brizliongooner3086
@brizliongooner3086 Жыл бұрын
The Gabba actually only holds just over 35k, a lot of people myself included get this wrong. But Jake Anson who is a highly respected lead design architect for the Brisbane Lions actually corrected me on this.
@sullivan1011
@sullivan1011 Жыл бұрын
Tearing down the Gabba just to make room for only 8k more seats? Seems like you need more seats than that to make it worth while. 🤷‍♂️
@theokleoudis4967
@theokleoudis4967 Жыл бұрын
Great video summary. $2.75 billion to increase the gabba by only 8000 seats; what a waste of money. We need 'out of the box' ideas, not standard government ideas, who also now realise they can't afford many projects.
@TheNextLife
@TheNextLife Жыл бұрын
There is no bad city infrastructure construction, if done well. Inverting in the future, The flow-on effect is huge.....don't stop.
@jamesleavitt3123
@jamesleavitt3123 Жыл бұрын
Incredibly informative Mel! I was aware of some but not all of the projects. Nice
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Brisbane just keeps getting better!
@CallumMoorekw
@CallumMoorekw Жыл бұрын
You did a great job! Fantastic breakdown. 👍
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words, Callum!
@Al-of3zp
@Al-of3zp Жыл бұрын
Has to be the best city in Australia apart from those few months in the middle of summer :(
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
It does get pretty hot and humid, but at least our winters are very mild!
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 Жыл бұрын
​@@melpikos8533 winters are the best In Brisbane 🎉
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
@@paulfri1569 can we really call them winters? 😂 Agree, winter in Brisbane is pretty damn good!
@memememe3878
@memememe3878 9 ай бұрын
i really do hope future building projects will consider green buildings or open concept style to dissipate heat during summer
@shauntaylor6175
@shauntaylor6175 Жыл бұрын
I agree, pulling down the current Gabba stadium to add only 8000 seats doesn't make sense, but why about the old ANZ stadium at Nathan? No major infrastructure near it, why now do a major rebuild on it? The Netball stadium is right next to it as well, garden city up the road for transport and shopping. Just a thought.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
I think the train and metro at the Gabba will be the main game changer, as well as all the amenity likes pubs, restaurants for pre and post match.
@mdorey
@mdorey Жыл бұрын
Great summary, definitely exciting stuff in the works. Yeah always more can be done with public transit, dedicated ring route definitely needed along with more major connections north and south. There's such amazing weather here it really would be great to see the city making a real push to get as many people onto bikes and transit and out of cars, especially in those fringe suburbs
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree Matthew, I’m a firm believer that we need to develop up, not endless sprawl. Mass rapid transport needs density to support it.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 why does CRR and Metro benefit the southside more than the northside?
@benpalexander
@benpalexander Жыл бұрын
So good Mel. Absolutely banger idea for the mega stadium! Bring on the projects.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Benny!
@cirquelord
@cirquelord Жыл бұрын
There needs to be a Bluey attraction in Brisbane. Something for the fans of the popular animated series to come for. Besides, Ludo Studios, the studio behind Bluey, has been offered to design 2032 Olympic Games mascot. 💙🧡
@rollerbladingbrisbane
@rollerbladingbrisbane Жыл бұрын
Great video! Can’t wait to be skating (rollerblading and rollerskating) all over this amazing city taking shape towards the Olympic Games!
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
I might have to bring my Oxygen Low-cut's out of retirement!
@rollerbladingbrisbane
@rollerbladingbrisbane Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 Definitely! Or we can provide some skates from our fleet of rollerblades (and rollerskates 🛼)!
@anthonywalsh2164
@anthonywalsh2164 Жыл бұрын
Interesting summary of the works. I have to agree with the underwhelming rebuild of the Gabba. Vulture and Stanley Sts need to be put underground to create a larger footprint. Also need two further green bridges from Kangaroo Point and New Farm as well as New Farm to Hawthorne. Finally the Riverside expressway needs to be removed to unite the western side of the city to the river and remove a terrible 70s eyesore.
@vinayshsureshram277
@vinayshsureshram277 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. The Gabba doesn't need to be as big as the MCG but needs to have at least 70-80k seats.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
The Gabba is a huge opportunity for Brisbane. I agree that a potential solution is to put Vulture St, Stanley St and the Riverside expressway underground. Maybe it can be converted to Brisbane's version of the New York High-Line?
@taskaras4137
@taskaras4137 Жыл бұрын
Love the High Line idea for Riverside Expressway Mel.
@markworrall6405
@markworrall6405 Жыл бұрын
I must admit the idea of tearing down the Gabba just to add a few thousand seats seems noncommercial. If possible build a big complex next to it. It would then be a greenfield site with far more potential
@markworrall6405
@markworrall6405 Жыл бұрын
One only needs to drive on our evermore congesting roads and motorways to realise the pending gridlock is almost upon us. Drive around any suburban area in Brisbane and the amount of subdivisions springing up can only mean one thing. It will be quicker to walk or bike in the future. Infrastructure is great in the city district but if it's at the expense of suburban living .........?
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Good reason to go up and not sprawl!
@markworrall6405
@markworrall6405 Жыл бұрын
On the subject of build up not out - this is also fraut with issues. A building housing 2,000 people needs connectivity which planners aren't addressing yet. The car has to be taken out of the equation and other forms of transportation must be considered.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
@@markworrall6405 that’s why density at the Gabba would be perfect after Cross River Rail and Metro are complete. Certainly better than car yards.
@timinman9578
@timinman9578 Жыл бұрын
I’m all for the exciting developments. However there is nothing in this that shows how people will get into the city that are 20, 30,50,100 km from the CBD. Brisbane is not just a City on its own, it is fast becoming the South east qld mega city. By 2032 it’s likely that Noosa to the boarder will be 1 big city, some 248km. Put that in context. Melbourne to Albury is 326km and Wollongong to Newcastle is 268 km.There is a lack of infrastructure to get from the north to the south let alone east to west. There was nothing stated regarding the Sunshine Coast rail connection in the recent government announcements regarding the Olympics..
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
I tried to keep it Brisbane centric for this video, more videos to follow on major projects in the South East. But glad you want more content!
@PurpleGold.
@PurpleGold. Жыл бұрын
As a Brisbane-ite, I’m so excited!!!
@Bobbyblack6
@Bobbyblack6 Жыл бұрын
pretty decent video not gonna lie
@MelPikos
@MelPikos Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rob, appreciate the feedback!
@lachlansmith2212
@lachlansmith2212 Жыл бұрын
Brisbane needs like 5 more Queens Warf type developments to be anything like Sydney
@arthurwatts1680
@arthurwatts1680 Жыл бұрын
I grew up in Sydney and spent 13 years in Brisbane - Southeast Queensland will be an absolute monster by 2050 but there is no comparison with Sydney's harbour. The Gold Coast is tacky IMO and the Sunny Coast is a retirement village, but the numbers don't lie - southerners continue to flock to one corner of a huge state. If you saw the Brisbane CBD 30 years ago, you'd understand why some people are excited (and others horrified) by these projects - the genie is definitely out of the bottle.
@dazzahoward7104
@dazzahoward7104 Жыл бұрын
And Melbourne will be way bigger than Sydney well before then.
@arthurwatts1680
@arthurwatts1680 Жыл бұрын
@@dazzahoward7104 True, but I doubt that any of them will deal with the population growth. 20 years ago, I told a colleague that the GC would have huge problems with youth crime if they just kept building new suburbs to attract young families and ignoring transport infrastructure but money talks.
@MrXtenzion
@MrXtenzion Жыл бұрын
I'm my ignorance I thought there was only two type of fanboys Intel and AMD. Today I learnt we also have Sydney fanboys!!
@AKA001
@AKA001 Жыл бұрын
At least Brisbane doesn’t smell like sewer…
@TheProteanGeek
@TheProteanGeek Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people think these things are because of the Olympics but it's not really accurate. Most of those projects were already in planning or under way long before the Olympics bid. Sure a number of them got an extra push or interest in them because of the Olympics but that's about it. Brisbane Live has been talked about for a very long time but had no movement. The Gabba rebuild/refurb was on the books but just became much bigger. Also maybe a couple of shifts in the transport plans to accommodate but they were already well underway.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like an Olympics to force 3 levels of Government to work together for a common cause! Not to mention a hard deadline to deliver!
@imonlifesjourney
@imonlifesjourney Жыл бұрын
Definitely needs a much bigger capacity stadium at a new location
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree!
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 Жыл бұрын
Albion Park?
@bramba1953
@bramba1953 Жыл бұрын
Brisbane is flying but factual error the 1956 Olympic opening and closing ceremonies were held at the MCG so not the first time city has had them so close to a CBD.
@RM-yk1oi
@RM-yk1oi Жыл бұрын
i like the idea of a ring rail network, although it should be further out. with a 5 to 10 km radius
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Could be a great future stage
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 Жыл бұрын
Wish they would build more high towers rises in Spring Hill.. Plus cool river Islands in the middle of the Brisbane River would be cool 😎
@jongun65
@jongun65 Жыл бұрын
Bit CBD-centric. Outer suburban living shoudl be considered. Where's the next Springfield? Tunnel to the north west can open up areas past Eaton's hill. Future public transport is more likely to be electric self-driving taxi to bus sized things goign point-to-point rather than trains which mostly need trips either end. Good suggestion on the Gabba.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Will certainly do some more South East QLD videos in the future, stay tuned!
@forthecreators4604
@forthecreators4604 Жыл бұрын
What about the Victoria Park transformation?
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s on the go slow
@JamesFFiT
@JamesFFiT Жыл бұрын
Great clip Mel:) I think Brisbane needs to go back to that final transapex tunnel from Campbell that wasn’t built from west end across to Toowong and to the western freeway and/or then the other talked about connection north and go up via Stafford to the north. Reason is Main Street and vulture street and that whole area needs to go underground as well if it’s redeveloped for the olympics it’s too congested and will be a bottleneck by 2030’s already is with all the traffic lights. I also question the capacity of the RBWH current busway station to be a metro terminus. So many people will change to suburban busses here and it already seems congested and not everyone today is transferring services so I’m not sure it’s long/big enough. Unsure why they can’t extend the busway from RBWH through to Windsor to at least join the busways at Lutwyche they got out of building that when airport link was all built and Windsor has not much improvement at all and is a missing link in a proper busway north. The metro should then be going all the way to Chermside once the northern transit way opens. I do love your idea of a metro loop in the east and desperately need a bridge if only a green one near Hamilton after KSD was upgraded it needs metro service. So exciting🎉❤😊
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
I live in South Brisbane and agree, Vulture St near South Bank is definitely far too congested and needs to be fixed as it will only get worse. A tunnel as you've suggested would work well I think. The West End / South Brisbane peninsula is only going to get more built up. The reason why I love the Brisbane Metro project is its versatility in being able to be expanded. I think over time we'll get connections to Chermside / Carindale and I'd love to see the big chunks of developable land in Morningside / Northshore Hamilton get a metro stop so we can add more affordable inner city apartments onto the market. Thanks for the comments Steve :)
@neumanmachine3781
@neumanmachine3781 Жыл бұрын
As a town planner who has worked on modelling for urban tunnels before (in Brisbane), building road tunnels is a waste of public funding. Remember the other ones (where the finances were released) all went broke and were picked up on the cheap by Transurban. Thousands of retail Mum and Dad investors lost their savings in that ill thought out Ponzi Scheme. I have always maintained that Transapex was a solution in search of a problem. Transapex was always a poorly conceived idea (like the west Brisbane bypass) that will never, ever stack up. The tunnel to Toowong does not have the demand to justify a tunnel, neither when it was conceived, now or 30 years in the future. The Go Between Bridge is sufficient to meet that need as the western suburbs are too small and will never have the population. The Clem 7 was another poorly conceived tunnel that took people from north of where all the jobs are to south of where all the jobs are (and they wondered why nobody used it!). Plus if you are going to the expense of tunneling, it only makes sense if you then put trains in it as the return from cars is insufficient in the long run. Cross River Rail has the best investment return of all these projects. If we want to dig more tunnels under Brisbane then I suggest and east-west rail tunnel from Cannon Hill to the City and then under West End to Indooroopilly. West End could get its own underground station as well as New Farm/Teneriffe and Balmoral/Bulimba with a new CBD station as well. That would have more long term structural benefit for the city than roads. The Stafford corridor could be used for rail as well. Maximum capacity of a rail corridor is more than double that of a road corridor and has land use uplift benefits as well as stations can support density and mixed use. Most road projects in urban areas lose money in the long run.
@marktarman9718
@marktarman9718 Жыл бұрын
​@@neumanmachine3781this 👍 Also we need more connections linking our current terminus' or even between the various branches. Imagine a train line that could loop from CBD to Beenleigh and then through to Cleveland and back to the CBD. It would help to decentralise our city, alleviate peak demands and provide a whole new growth corridor away from the traditional branch lines into the city. So many other cities have gone this next step and made their networks truly versatile, it's something Brisbane lacks entirely other than a handful of poorly timetabled bus routes at the moment
@JamesFFiT
@JamesFFiT Жыл бұрын
@@neumanmachine3781 I’m speaking in terms of Mel’s vision to divert the riverside expressway in his latest video. Only the entrances to the cbd street / exits could be tolled from exits under Southbank and the tunnel under the Gabba and Southbank would have to be free as a replacement to the captain cook bridge and riverside expressway. GBB would also have to become free. The m3 would divert under Southbank and fix hale street all the way to kelvin grove road to eliminate the constant lane changing. Returning north bank to the people / developers will pay for the road so no toll needed. Your rail solutions are great and I agree with that we need more tunnelling for train metros right across Brisbane but the context of my discussion was fixing the mess of freeway and inner city gridlock we have now by taking that stuff underground in preparation for the 2032 olympics around the Gabba! Gabba area is a nightmare but how else do we fix that without Mel’s bold vision of diverting riverside expressway, , and get the through traffic away from the Olympic stadium!? Underground is the only option I see in that area. It would be awesome!
@twrampage
@twrampage Жыл бұрын
A big no on the double stadium idea. It's just a waste in the long term. I'd bump the Gabba redevelopment size up a bit if at all possible. 54-60,000 capacity.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment twrampage!
@Claudiozee
@Claudiozee Жыл бұрын
Glad you mentioned about the silly idea to demo the Gabba and rebuilding it to increase its capacity by only 16%. In addition they are ripping the soul of the heritage EBSS next door. Gabba and Suncorp were built in the wrong location, it's time to realize this. 2 bridges have been built to allow access to the suncorp from Roma and Milton stations. The Gabba needs a bridge to connect the Station to the stadium. How smart! I agree, the new stadium should be over the Gabba station.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
16% is a pretty small increase for all that extra cash!
@adamjones1805
@adamjones1805 Жыл бұрын
It never occurred to me to build a brand new state of the art stadium for the Olympics above the new Gabba Station. But I think it's a fantastic idea! The only question is where would the money come from? I'd probably suggest private enterprise. The government certainly doesn't have the money with everything it's paying for.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Adam, I’m sure there would be a commercial return from an increase in events at the stadium, more ticket sales, naming rights, etc.
@electro_sykes
@electro_sykes Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 why does CRR and Metro benefit the southside more than the northside?
@Sharpshooter99100
@Sharpshooter99100 10 ай бұрын
@@electro_sykes Because of the Cross City Rail
@ruwankumara1844
@ruwankumara1844 Жыл бұрын
i will move to Brisbane .... form Melbourne
@glenncostello4486
@glenncostello4486 Жыл бұрын
How about the Toowong green bridge? When is that scheduled? Glenn
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Hi Glenn, I plan to do an overview on all Bridges in Brisbane, along with a few of my own ideas on where logical connections should go. Stay tuned!
@Firm-Tofu-King
@Firm-Tofu-King Жыл бұрын
Our highways are all ready congested, and the railways being built are not likely to fix that. I can see things becoming slower and slower
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Certainly need to build more high rise apartments near major transport nodes to ensure there are people using them!
@BoreyStudio
@BoreyStudio Жыл бұрын
Always following ❤❤❤
@chee1237
@chee1237 Жыл бұрын
Beaudesert road will still be under construction after these projects finish
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Same as the Bruce Hwy 😂
@lawrencepetruzzelli
@lawrencepetruzzelli Жыл бұрын
Need more and new residential towers and hubs as there is a huge lack of dense housing around transport hubs and rentals are going crazy as everyone migrates from Victoria to QLD
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
100% agree Lawrence! Build big around major transport nodes!
@stewgam5029
@stewgam5029 Жыл бұрын
Great video Mel!
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Stew!
@johnmceleney1092
@johnmceleney1092 Жыл бұрын
Brisbane has already outgrown the size of Suncorp Stadium - which needs an upgrade The Gabba Stadium needs to be bigger the 50,000 seats if it wants to be compared or compete with Sydney or Melbourne. Better infrastructure and Transport needs to be looked at in the suburbs as well and not just in the inner city suburbs. We have all these new suburbs popping up but there is no public transport infrastructure. They keep harping on about getting cars off the roads and encouraging the public to take public transport but a lot of suburbs don’t have that choice
@tanoz1440
@tanoz1440 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, public transport in the outer suburbs is abysmal, and expensive if travelling to inner city everyday, not everyone can afford to buy a home in inner suburbs, where all the great infrastructure is and transport costs are low. There should have already been a railway line out to Beaudesert 30 years ago, apparently there was one once but it was ripped up, not sure. But they definitely need it now.
@TheWheelsMcCoy
@TheWheelsMcCoy Жыл бұрын
I feel like the Ekka site would be a better place for the new stadium, as the gabba isn't really going to be able to handle the increased volume.
@2011Matz
@2011Matz Жыл бұрын
No mention of floods.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got another video on floods, check out the channel!
@zhanc8631
@zhanc8631 Жыл бұрын
Preference for the Capalaba connection…I think it’s imperative and truthfully going as far as Victoria Point or Redland Bay is really what is needed now and in years to come.
@capowable
@capowable Жыл бұрын
Hopefully some of the congestion gets taken away from the Lang Park area around Caxton St and Roma St for big events. Those detours 😤 I think we're good with the 50000 seater Gabba. Like this channel. Nice to know what's going on in this fine city.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Glad you’re enjoying the content, Josh!
@jimmyboy2
@jimmyboy2 Жыл бұрын
Agree with the comment on Gabba size. Needs to be 60 to 65k ... something like Allegiant Stadium. Build it up ... the cut out section that opens up could face the city, making an awesome view.
@robertweber8936
@robertweber8936 Жыл бұрын
Good vid. Brissy the place to be now and in the future
@kagirion
@kagirion 6 ай бұрын
"She got ...Huuuuge....tracts of land!" ...I really hope cooperation is encouraged a lot more for larger areas of projects and planning for whole areas. Not so much springing up sporadic apartment buildings in front of eachother. This helping not only design and aesthetic cohesion, but also efficiency.
@MelPikos
@MelPikos 6 ай бұрын
Yes, hope that is encouraged too, so it's great that they are open to receiving ideas from the public as to what should go there! Make sure you send in your ideas!
@aussiemacka
@aussiemacka Жыл бұрын
Great video and was also good to hear your top 5 ideas last week!
@GlobalPanghal
@GlobalPanghal 10 ай бұрын
Amazing
@peterhoz
@peterhoz Жыл бұрын
A second, 70,000 seat stadium right next door to the Gabba? Plus Lang Park for rectangular sports? One of them would become a white elephant. Sydney tried that with Homebush and most sports don't want to use it except for the occasional major event (Origin, Grand Final etc). 60,000 works for Perth, 50,000 works for Adelaide, 50,000 is probably a good size for Brisbane. Unless you're talking about building the new one and then demolishing the old one later, fair enough. But keeping both long term is not going to work.
@marktarman9718
@marktarman9718 Жыл бұрын
I think this is actually the way to go. Following Olympics, demolish the current gabbe and turn it into the green space they have proposed for over the CRR station along with maybe reinstating the east Brisbane as could be a win win for everyone then and no displacement of Cricket or AFL during construction 👌
@matted781
@matted781 Жыл бұрын
Trying to get fruit and veggies at 7pm is a nightmare. Not many supermarkets open. also the gabba is not the closest venue to host olympics. The MCG is only 600 metres from the CBD and hosted the games.
@tobys_transport_videos
@tobys_transport_videos 8 ай бұрын
The MCG is a bit more than 600 metres from the CBD! The MCG is at Jolimont. The CBD really begins at Flinders St.
@gamerk4773
@gamerk4773 Жыл бұрын
Here is my prediction of future big cities in AUS in order best to worst: Gold Coast, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth, Darwin, Hobart, Adelaide, Canberra
@paulwhitehead1190
@paulwhitehead1190 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video…
@UNTILGOTHAMISASHES1
@UNTILGOTHAMISASHES1 Жыл бұрын
Love these sorta videos, subbed!
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the support, Jason!
@peterhoz
@peterhoz Жыл бұрын
6:40 Olympics major venue close to the CBD? Ummm MCG 1956...
@shantishanti1949
@shantishanti1949 Жыл бұрын
Agree with your suggestion re the Gabba ... build another stadium above the transport station next door.
@ManBikeSwag
@ManBikeSwag Жыл бұрын
Lets build another casino ! We can always use more to bleed the community.
@marcusireland5696
@marcusireland5696 Жыл бұрын
A defining characteristic of world cities is public transport, If Brisbane wants to grow any further our governments need to look into more trains and buses with dedicated busways or else we will end up with economically crippling traffic. An issue with Brisbane is a focus on cars, evidence of this can be found on the M1 motorway where work has been done to widen the highway to 10 lanes from Rochedale to Mount Gravatt. At first this seemed to be a good decision but after a while induced demand set in and those 10 lanes didn't seem enough. This is a fatal feedback loop that can be witnessed in any major US city known as induced demand and it seems Brisbane is about to fall victim. In case you were wondering what induced demand is, We realize that we need more lanes because the traffic doesn't flow fast enough so "what can we do?" ; we build more lanes, and the road seems less busy so more people end up driving so we build even more lanes. If we want to be a world class city we need to ditch cars but at the same rate our government needs to build better public transport to facilitate the increase of demand and the transition away from private transport.
@narmandanail8137
@narmandanail8137 Жыл бұрын
never been to Qld but it soundly so Fab
@JJAMC
@JJAMC Жыл бұрын
When we compare the cost of the Las Vegas new Stadium (70k pax) to the Gabba redevelopment, QLD Government are definitely getting themselves into a bad deal.
@wytchend
@wytchend Жыл бұрын
A pedestrian bridge between South Brisbane & Toowong would be great. I heard rumours of it, but not sure if they are true. Also, an update on The Parmalat site would be nice too? Any news?
@peterware5173
@peterware5173 2 ай бұрын
I love brissy a super city .
@mmmmmmmmmm710
@mmmmmmmmmm710 Жыл бұрын
Hey mate! The video is awesome! How about creating something similar about the future of melbourne and sydney? as well as perth 😁
@DanielleA2023
@DanielleA2023 Жыл бұрын
All those assets (zero having Aboriginal titles) whilst cost of living, rent increases, homelessness, social housing & corporation profits are at obscene levels (although the states 💚 Greens Party & Labour ❤ Party are 👍🏼)
@Dim-yz6wk
@Dim-yz6wk 17 күн бұрын
Go Brissy Bris-Vegas!
@stussysinglet
@stussysinglet Жыл бұрын
There are definitely some impressive projects and the city does seem like it's improving rapidly.. the only thing I feel that sort of holds it back is how small the CBD is. It's about half the size of Sydney and Melbournes and on a world scale it's a very small city centre.. I guess the south bank area could become more of extension of the CBD...
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
Even more reason to ensure our city expands up, not sideways! Still plenty of developable land in the city to ensure our future growth as well as making it very walkable.
@edwardgilmour9013
@edwardgilmour9013 Жыл бұрын
that might be an ideal chance to get rid of the protrusion blocking access (near Grey st bridge) from countess st onto North Quay.
@AndyNguyen-sl5gg
@AndyNguyen-sl5gg Жыл бұрын
Won’t be long till Brisbane is Australia’s Largest and Gateway City! Almost everyone in the world will use Brisbane as a base for trips to Australia! People from Australia and Overseas are moving to Brisbane in droves, choosing that city over anywhere else in Australia, driven by the Olympics, and wouldn’t mind the traffic, weather or high house prices! Celebrities, athletes, influencers and executives will be among the many that will move to Brisbane! And Brisbane will soon be Australia’s sporting, entertainment and cultural capital!
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
The Olympics will certainly make Brisbane known throughout the world and a household name!
@neumanmachine3781
@neumanmachine3781 Жыл бұрын
Brisbane won't become Australia's largest city anytime soon, if ever. Melbourne and Sydney are both double the population of Brisbane and it will take decades to close the gap assuming that growth in those cities slows down. For comparison, Brisbane in 2021 had about 2.5 million people. Sydney had that population in 1966 and Melbourne in 1971. Brisbane is currently growing at a faster rate than these two cities, but both of them grow by a larger number of people in any given year. There has only been one year in the last 50 when Brisbane's growth in numbers exceeded that of Sydney, and you would have to go back to the 1990's for a period when Brisbane outgrew Melbourne. Through most of the last decade both Sydney and Melbourne grew at double the numbers of Brisbane. Brisbane will get bigger and more vibrant, but Sydney and Melbourne will continue to be much larger for the foreseeable future.
@michaellim7002
@michaellim7002 Жыл бұрын
@@neumanmachine3781 City size should not be measured only by Population Size. There must consider other factors too such as the infrastructure, economic development, education, business HQ, transportation, airports, container ports, international sports and cultural activities etc....... At present, Brisbane is behind Sydney and Melbourne in everything which may take years to develop. The only advantage for "Brisbane-GC-SC" right now is their location, sunny weather, beaches, entertainment parks and low crime rate.
@Waywind420
@Waywind420 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see the government develop towns and cities more southerly towards the bottom of the country where there's less UV and cooler temperatures. We don't need to make big cities bigger, we need to make more cities and offer more places to live.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
It’s the people deciding to move to Brisbane. People are choosing big cities due to the amenity. QLD is already the most decentralised state, however people are flocking to the south east corner.
@Waywind420
@Waywind420 Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 Yeah I used to live in south east QLD, it's a nice region. There is massive amounts of town development there if you have a look at the waterways it's all heavily curated and Robina specifically they've build thousands of homes, a stadium, hospital, school, mall and businesses in over the last 20-30 years. But we'll continue having the worlds highest cancer rates if we carry on living in cities that we built in extremely UV exposed locations. Not to mention high energy costs to cool things down in the harsh summers. Places like Albany WA, Busselton WA, Hobart, Lauceston, Regional victoria imo are more ideal to live, but whether the region can sustain millions of people would require significant initial investment.
@Brissie700
@Brissie700 Жыл бұрын
I don’t leave the Northern Suburbs, so it won’t make much difference to me 🤔
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
We'll have to get you on a Brisbane Metro to take you where all the action is happening.
@shazkumars
@shazkumars Жыл бұрын
Hi Mel - great video - thanks. Do you see any benefits to the outer suburbs in the North of Brisbane I.e. your Kenton’s to Chermside, Ashley etc? A lot of the projects would enhance the suburbs in the South by the looks of it?
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
I think the vast majority of projects in Brisbane definitely benefit the south side of the river. There has been more availability of big chunks of land on the south to allow these big projects to be delivered. I also think proximity to the Gold Coast means that the South will outperform the North.
@shazkumars
@shazkumars Жыл бұрын
@@melpikos8533 apologies for the typos - bloody auto type. Thanks for responding back.
@RolandjHearn
@RolandjHearn Жыл бұрын
@@shazkumars Ha Ha, I have lived in Brisbane most of my life and on the northside too. I have never heard of Kenton or Ashley and I actually googled them to see what I had missed. So glad to discover I am not going crazy.
@shazkumars
@shazkumars Жыл бұрын
@@RolandjHearn haha! iPhone and auto type - meant to read Kedron, Aspley.
@RolandjHearn
@RolandjHearn Жыл бұрын
@@shazkumars That is what I guessed as soon as I saw your post about autocorrect. It gave me a good laugh about my need to find these two "mystery suburbs."
@Lifts_QWERTY
@Lifts_QWERTY Жыл бұрын
Brisbane adding more bridges is funny, being that they have so many bridges already lol. Great video though!
@SamDehmie-oj3df
@SamDehmie-oj3df Жыл бұрын
I think they should rebuild the stadium but increase the capacity to maybe 70-80,000 capacity.
@anthonykellam1816
@anthonykellam1816 Жыл бұрын
Not sure the Gabba beats the MCG in the “primary Olympics venue CBD proximity” awards.
@melpikos8533
@melpikos8533 Жыл бұрын
I reckon the Gabba is closer, but just slightly 😅
@paulfri1569
@paulfri1569 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if they decided to build at Victoria Park as originally planned.. would be just as close also 🤔
@incubusright
@incubusright Жыл бұрын
btw gabba is only 30,000 it was full packed last week it only went to 30,000 in the capacity count
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