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Rap + drum & bass + industrial = a new regurgitated old thing

I'm surprised no one here has mentioned JPEGMAFIA. He's been doing a healthy blend of Hip-Hop mixed with rock as well as DnB and blending really interesting samples, not to mention a lot of his earlier electronic type work.

Your content stands out! Unlike other producers, your mix of storytelling and education is a breath of fresh air.

As an artist who makes rap & rock, this video game me some much needed hope and inspiration. Can’t wait to continue this cycle of music 🙏🏼

Grunge is really already present for few years in mainstream hip hop in form of rage stuff. Yeat,pbc,ken carson, destroy lonely and others. Its kind digital version of grunge from 90s with less of organic sounding stuff.

I still click on your videos expecting them to be the usual youtube ramble about a vague point, slightly related to the clickbait title. I am wrong every time with your videos, they are well thought out, concise, and have some awesome knowledge and opinions sprinkled throughout. Big fan.

Love this. I think we need to go back to the 60-70's songwriting era. Emphasis on poetic lyrics, social commentary, soulful vocals, live instruments, etc. Please keep these coming.

the idea of combing rap and rock really was revived in the last 5-8 years with scream rap and then eventually trap metal, with artist like ZillKami and SosMula standing at the very front of it. I would love to see you do a breakdown on their more grungy sounding like "the give up" or "draino"

Although New Jack Swing first merged in the late '80s, it's really more associated with the early '90s. Bell Biv Devoe's "Poison" came out in 1990. The movie "New Jack City" came out in 1991, as did Michael Jackson's 'Dangerous' album (which had several New Jack Swing tracks produced by Teddy Riley), and The Arsenio Hall Show, which featured many New Jack Swing artists as musical guests, propelled the genre into the mainstream in the early '90s. As for Hip-Hop, I'm down for anything new. The whole trap-derived sound has been soooooooo played out, it's a joke. It's time to bury it in the ground.

Bombs over Bagdad from OutKast was the peak of the last rock rap fusion circle 💯

Im expecting a resurgence of jazzy/chill (easy listening) rap to come through again. I think similar to pharcyde coming through as a counter to the more agressive NWA sound. I expect something to come through that counters the harder drill sound that is dominating right now.

it's weird, but as a producer and a rapper, along with the new wave of rap-rock, not realising it, I also started listening to more rock'ish, or even metal'ish things like System, Slipknot or Nirvana and even playing the guitar again (I first picked it up in 2018, but didn't like it back then)

I feel like the next wave is going to be between the Earl Sweatshirt/Alchemist, MIKE, or even Griselda sound and plugggnb ect, because those are the most prominent underground sounds that aren’t technically mainstream, and don’t get me wrong I can definitely see that ken karson, or kinda rock rap sound being mainstream but it’d be really niche, or have a low chance of doing so. Pluggnb and that abstract soul/boombap-ish sound is the most reaching niche of the underground and thats why to me I think it’s between those

This video was definitely interesting for me since even before realizing this boom of Rap Rock was happening I was mostly making beats (although stylistically it's something more leaning towards what Billy Woods, Lil Ugly Mane and ELUCID would rap on than Slowthai) that sampled a lot of Rock/Metal artists. I might even site some of these artists as my main inspirations over most Hip Hop artists tbh. Bands like Manic Street Preachers(their earlier works), Swans, Soundgarden, Tool, Nine Inch Nails, Electric Wizard, Shining, Unwound and Black Flag all influenced me heavily when it comes to both sound and lyricism so it's really cool to see this phenomenon being more common

I pray that hip hop doesn’t sound like that beat

that beat was dope!!!! And as someone who grew up in the 90s and loves hiphop and grunge, I am excited about this new age of music. Bring on the GRUNGE!!!!

Fight Club opening credits ahh beat

I don’t see it going from 808’s to this style of Hip Hop. More so it’s probably going to go back to more of a sample based form of Hip Hop. This kind of Hip Hop will not get in play in the clubs or cars nowadays. Maybe it’ll work on a smaller scale as far as some niche off brand underground stuff but not on a large scale. Sample based Hip Hop is about to take over again.

I’ve been producing for about 11 years now and with the more experience I get, the more I inevitably go down uncharted territories. Music has very interesting times ahead, I think we’re going to hear lots of things we never expected and I’m proud to bring some of those things into the equation myself.

Culture goes in cycles. Every 20 - 30 years you hear the music influence & see the fashion of about 20/30 years prior. Just missing some held out power chords on an electric guitar at the start of each bar

THE FUTURE OF EVERYTHING IS WEIRD..

If that’s where underground rap is headed, I’ll stay above ground.

I agree with you but the cycle is becoming randomized everyone is doing whatever they want whenever they want like early 2000s pop punk sound is being implemented more and more these days and then the next week we just flash right back to the 70s then the next week we jump to the 90s it is a cycle for sure but the cycle is being randomized

I've been a believer in the cycles concept in popular music for a long time.. I was born in 1987, so the recent 80s-pop resurgence has been super nostalgic for me, even though it's a period I was far too young to associate actual memories with.. Instead I think my brain creates emotional connections automatically when I hear it, which is really interesting. But I've been considering the 90s thing for a minute, I had a feeling it was coming soon but I had no clue what it would actually sound like. If this is any indication, it's going to be a lot better than I expected. Brilliant video man, I've seen a couple of your videos in the past but I'm definitely subscribing right now.

I wanna see hip hop go in the direction of trip hop and jungle. That'd be sick

I don’t listen to any of the grunge-inspired Boom Bap artists you listed, but as a Limp Bizkit fan, I see this as an absolute win

Reminds me of "Stealing Fat" from the Dust Brothers, on Fight Club's opening credits. Good work!

shoegaze n alternative + rap is already a pretty big thing and i feel that it’s the actual next huge sound for the reason that sampling things like deftones riffs and some people are even going far enough to sample weezer

So basically we're going back to Drum & Bass lol

just make what your heart wants to make. don’t follow or try to predict the next trend. make what people can only come to you to get.

So basically what Drum&Bass has been doing since the late 90’s. 170-177 BPM is my element. It’ll be hard for anybody to top it. I can do that BPM without making it sound so fast.

Damn, i saw qtip and got hyped....you fooled me Nav!!

Damn that beat go hard I definitely wanna get into making some stuff like this

As long as we're innovating through each cycle. That Lil B song had me giggling ngl

I've always been wondering how to get on a trend before it fully develops, you're really helping us out here

Many thanks for this tips Navie 🙏🏻

Very creative video bro

It's like you've been watching me. This video has given me so much inspiration to keep going with my music. Thanks for uploading. I named my indie record label after that Tribe Called Quest song you mentioned at the beginning. Excursions changed my life.

Nice! I feel like if you listen to enough music, you end up making stuff like this, just naturally.

Nothing new under the sun, musical elements come and go.

Jungle DnB is also making a comeback in the pop scene, another indicator of the 90's part of the cycle

Definitely sounds like every game i played as a kid mashed into one

Well observed. I think there is also an upliving of dnb rythms and "ps1 asthethic"

The templates of the past can be an inspiration in the beginning phases, but it's helpful to think beyond what's been done before. The World isn't waiting for more of the same.

Thanks for the video!!! You really make me think about music.... Not only the Hop... Nice reference to Q Tip... Asewe Namaste

Daws hit a randomize button on musical expression. Now you can make whatever you want whenever you want to

This is definitely on point and what my whole catalog sounds like love from Memphis

It's an undeniable fact that individualism will always be the trendsetter. Game changers like Buddy Holly, Ritchie Valens, and Otis Redding dared to pave their own way and revolutionize the music industry. If you want to leave a mark and make a difference, you need to learn the game, but then you must go above and beyond by flipping the script and creating something truly unique and remarkable. That's the only way to become a true trendsetter and make your mark in this world. (Generated by AI using Grammarly 😂 i's so smart 🤣) PS. Like always, another great post...

Love the final product! The Dust Brothers vibe is very heavy here. 🔥🤘🏼

In a few years, mainstream rap will just be consisted of 110 bpm low end kick, a finger snap snare, one note bass line, and auto-tuned variations of “yea, club, girl, youuu, smoke, brr-brr, and ‘rarri” on a two minute loop

Reminds me of The Prodigy / Liam Hewlett. Which could lead to amazing things

Im 36 a producer i started out playing mostly nu and death metal on guitar ive noticed this recent pattern in the industry and im loving it. 🎉

Great video, The beat came out great.🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

I will be here to help Save it ! I’m so so Versatile with the beats finna get these vocals and it’s up

Very informative thanks brotha

i'm glad other people are saying it: this is classical late 90's, early 00's drum & bass. why is that weird?? 6:56 sounds very much like concord dawn, if you ask me. check "uprising", their 2003 album, and you'll hear exactly the steps/elements mr d suggests on this video.

Never was into grunge but I like this beat

Sounds like a song that should be in either a chase scene of a movie, or a racing video game.

crazy, i just came across paris texas recently and was thinking about attempting that style. has a cool sound to it.

Man I really hope there’s more innovation in the future, I think this genre and peoples’s thinking will make it awezome!!!!

that just sounds like a completely different genre

Im definitely gonna incorporate what I learned from your video but the bpm section is so fast 😭😭😭

Wanna find a new sound as a music artist? Look back 30 years or so.

So produce like the Dust Brothers on the fight club soundtrack. Got it

zillakami's been doing lots of rap rock lately, not rap METAL, but rap rock. death grips did some rap rock too in exmilitary. you may be interested on listening to them. i recommend you dog boy by zillakami

that drum beat sounds like something ud hear on in House or something along that genre

Let’s get back to the original form of hip hop with funk breakbeats!😅

Rap Music and HipHop Music are 2 different things, those songs you labeled as HipHop are just rap music. To be HipHop is has to adhere to the principles of HipHop Culture. Love, Peace, Unity and Having fun.

Run DMC was doing Rap Rock mix in the early 80's. They were the ones who made that popular. Look up their songs Rock Box, Walk This Way and Raising Hell.

great video! one thing that I think about a lot as an aspiring producer is the history of recorded music, but primarily how that impacts modern day music. In the last 10 years or so, we've had a lot more accessibility to countless eras and times of music unlike any year beforehand. Likewise, its easier to discover new music from any style or any time in history. Compare music platforms to the early 2000s for example, we don't need to go out, find a CD someone might have reviewed, and check it out, you can just swipe a screen and find polyrhythmic gregorian chant music if you wanted. That being said, this era in the music industry is really unique in history because of how many producers throughout many years can implement their influences of any year or style of music into modern music. To build off your mentioning of the cyclical nature of music, I think the era of music we exist in is the equivalent of duct taping that cycle onto the wheel of a Porche 911 on the autoban. Artists are trying to get the motown tonality feeling while incorporating phil collins styled snares with gated reverbs, and this could al be on some ska track. Ultimately this is all fun and good to think about but so what? I think if you're an aspiing producer, you should go out of your normal listening routine and find something you might not have heard before and break it down and allow it to drive you to create something new. How does Joy Division craft an ambiance and where do the instruments sit in the mix? how does that compare to a Funkadelic mix? Whats the tonality difference between 70s funk drums and 80s pop drums? how would you create that? I think by doing exercises like this will fundamentally make you a stronger producer but also help you find a blend of different genres through time that might not have been done before.

you can also see the influence if 90s rnb in the new underground rap genres of Pluggnb and Sexxnb which have taken over the underground the past few years and are becoming really popular

Style everywhere. I personally believe it will do something we don't expect. I feel like its going back to the 60's and expanding through todays time. Were accepting everything experimental. The most popular have become mondaine. Yet they'll stick around. Its the blueprint now. Idk if he knows that modern hip hop owns drums or if he isn't really experienced in hip hop. However I can see if this is the cliche sound. Idk if he's a product of Hip Hop or just a college learned concept man. He's not figuring in the real life experience that creates Hip Hop. He's predicting future Hip Pop. Not mad at it either. .. just not true soul.

Sorry Navie, but this is a bad take. This sounds has been around for a while with even heavier punk/metal/grunge influences on top of DNB. Yea sure we’re hearing lots of it right now but that’s because anyone can make music and upload it nowadays so we’re getting more of everything. More lofi, boom bap, experimental, punk, distorted, etc. it’s just a matter of who you listen to at the moment. This type of rap will never be “mainstream” because it’s already never been that popular. The closest you’ll get is like Yeat, Lil Uzi Vert, Teezo, JPEG. I also think Paris Texas is more punk with rap influences and not the other way around. At a certain point you can’t call it rap anymore. Cheers!

been tapping into this vibe a lot recently, also been into sampling prog songs from the 90's

For some reason the beat around 7:07 (yeah, nice number i know - TR) reminds me of Clubbed to Death

this vid is so good navie

this rap rock apocalypse happened like three times now lol. weapons, not food, not homes, no shoes

Basically , contemporary adults in the music industry copy (or let me say it politely, emulate) what they heard as children.

Dude you're an amazing producer !!!!😁😁 You've changed the way I listen to music but going as far prophesying the future of rap culture, though it might be a feasible prediction its not exactly your forte.The universe has endless possibilities

nice you made a grunge and bass beat (is that a new genre?)

Fire Vid

Everything goes through cycles the pendulum swings from one extreme to another. Im a marketing student but i took one trend forcasting class in the fashion major and i swear to God it allowed me to see things I'd never noticed

Thank u Navie I’ve been looking for a Paris Texas tutorial for a minute

zillakami and paris texas are among my favorite rappers... I grew up on metal as a kid and grew into liking rap just from living in a city so I really like where this style of music has been going lately.

Rap/Rock already happened between 2005-2010 in some capacity. Trick Daddy - Lets go, Badboy Family - Bad boys for Life, Jay-Z Grey album, MIA - Paper Planes. I hope we go from the era of Autotune. lol

You hit the nail on the head

You should mention Yeat and Destroy lonely too. I’d say XXX was ahead of his time in this domain as well

New Jack Swing did happen mid-89 but blew up in the early 90's

VIBEFUL✈✈

In response to showing BBD when mentioning New Jack Swing... As a person who was there, Teddy Riley was the creator of New Jack Swing, but not the creator of Hip Hop merged with R&B. Teddy's music was New Jack Swing. Not everything from the era that blended Hip Hop and R&B was considered New Jack Swing. BBD's music was not. In fact, they tell you exactly what their music was. "Hip Hop smoothed out on an R&B tip with pop feel, appeal to it." I know people love to look back and lump it all together, but it was all distinct to us who were of the culture back then. It's like someone 20 years from now saying that The Migos, Future, and Lil Baby were of the same sub-genre of Hip Hop. While you could create a sub-genre that encompasses BBD and Guy, it wouldn't be called New Jack Swing, because that's Teddy's side of things.

I like this style of music anyway. im glad i found paris texas i was for that sound for years

Id love to see a video on netuh beats type of beats like his crazier ones. Sorry to be so vague on that request i just can’t think of any specific names atm but any beats in that dark underground horrorcore type of genre.

Daaaaamn, pulling out that Voodoo! I see you

I like your beat but, IDK if that's the new wave. My nephews listen to rap music right now that has a little rock influence to it. I forgot what they call it but it started since the pandemic. Some of it has 808's in it and analogue synths from the 80's. I haven't heard any popular rappers on those type of beats yet.

i know the aim of your channel is based in teaching/advising beat PRODUCTION. However i wish you would have continued the "Music goes in circles" theme of topic, it was really interesting . is there any possibility you could make a full video on this .

Born in the 80’s and loved that type of music.. 30 years later the cycle comes around… Another 10 years pass and the cycle ends… Now we are entering the 90’s influenced cycle… I feel old 😭

I personally think the next wave of hip hop is going to be a more digital one- a kind of bouncy electronic genre . Idk tho

I’ve been obsessed with this sound and been trying to create it but nO ONE is talking about it. So glad I found this vid🙏🏾🩶

That was clean