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we got trolldier tf2 in minecraft before a major tf2 update

“Screw you, I am gonna go play Minecraft.” -scout tf2

i can't believe you didn't mention the top-notch hat that was only giveing to notch in tf2

TF2 Soldier didn't pass away, he lends his weapons and tools to other games

Now were gonna see a new style of pvp minecraft has entered the frag era with this one.

Did you know: if you want to know if the man you see in TF2 is Notch, just look at is hat, Notch as an exclusif hat, only him in the whole world have it.

i'm convinced everything in this universe can all come back to team fortress 2.

tangent but i feel for the guy who made infiniminer he was so close

TEEAM FOOORTRESS TWOOOOOO Also some things to note: Team Fortress Classic was a HALF-LIFE mod, but the original Team Fortress was a quake mod.

6:56 This part is funny because he said Heavy influence with a picture of Heavy influencing the game.

It's perfect -Soldier TF2

i quickly wanna mention this, spy wasn't originally a full class at the time. it was a bug in the code where you could be seen as a friendly but you could trick other players with it kill them n such. then after a point in time it went from a bug to well a design you may say and boom a class been added. from there on spy design was based around well a spy. i just wanted to drop this lil fun fact here :p (ps sorry if i miss type something English is not my first language)

A good day when Lucid uploads. (No idea how he cooks quality videos so fast)

I can't lie Zesty dubbing Notch was hysterical

I reckon most games focus on "freedom" and "player choice" From connect 4 to dwarf fortress, from super mario to baba is you, from portal to DnD Its the whole point of what a game is

Me trying to find out how to bring this up in a normal convetsation

Literally my 2 favourite games and they are SO CONNECTRED

Good to know I wasnt the only one that thought the Maze was TF2 pilled (plus they mentioned "heavy weapon" my brain just went heavy weapon guy tf2)

Finally, a reason to play a Minecraft version newer than Beta 1.7.3.

DID YOU KNOW: Notch was accused of impersonating the notch during his time playing TF2, so he made a joke tweet about it complaining about how nobody thinks he's the real notch playing TF2. Then, VALVe decided to give notch a hat called "Top Notch" that only HE could have. So that people KNEW it was Notch. The item also had a secret stat that made the wearer take 10% more damage.

While I wouldn't disagree that TF2 have an impact of the game's development *early on* when Notch was actually still in charge, I heavily disagree that Mace + Wind Charge are directly inspired by TF2, it's just a convergence of ideas. The reason for this is because Wind Charge is directly inspired from Breezes' attacks, which isn't necessarily something that can be tied to TF2 because Breezes are more of an experimental mob that's made to bring chaos by relying on knockback as its main form of attack. The reason why they allowed Players to use Wind Charge for themselves is because of people messing around with commands that allows Players to play with Breeze's Wind Charge, which turned out to be popular among the community. And the Mace's mechanic of dealing more damage the farther you fall is just a more powerful and expanded version of a mechanic that's already deeply rooted to Minecraft's combat mechanic; Jump-Crits, which I highly doubt is directly taken from TF2's gameplay since the way you get Minecraft Crits doesn't really exist in TF2. This mechanic is probably also inspired by the utility of Wind Charge itself, making these two synergize with each other as they are both going to be found in the same structure. Again, the end-result of these items are very similar to one of the playstyles seen in TF2, but this can be attributed to convergence of ideas (like convergent evolution but for ideas lol) rather than a homage to TF2.

The "video essay explaining why tf2 is the best game ever" genre is getting a little ridiculous at this point

Two of the biggest games of my childhood and I never realized this so cool

Steve Co. Supply crate

TF2 might've been some inspiration, but Notch said that the two main ones were Dwarf Fortress and Infiniminer.

What a great video! The music got me crying 😭 (over exaggeration)

YES A NEW LUCID UPLOAD!

2:48 Errm, actually, tfc was based on Quake Fortress, the ACTUAL Quake mod.🤓

Cant wait for the inevitable soundsmith video about him getting a market garden in minecraft

I would love to see an Infiniminer remaster with more classes, game mechanics, and block types like the lesser known mod for it: Infinifortress.

tf2 still inspiring people ater so much is insane

🤓Actually, Team Fortress Classic is a specific name for the goldsrs port(which is like Team Fortress 1.5). The original mod is just Team Fortress(or you can call it Team Fortress 1)

- Minecraft referenced Tf2 and in arpil fools -Notch is a fan of Tf2 -Minecraft used Tf2 weapon mechanics in 2024 even tho notch isnt a dev of minecraft anymore *Tf2 directly changed minecrafts history in development* (I do think it inspired minecraft, but i also think saying Tf2 changed minecrafts entire history and development is an exaggeration)

1:58 "Valves Beloved, TF2" * Counter Striking and life halfing laughter *

It's kind of a match made in heaven, Team Fortress 2 and Minecraft's relationship at least in the early days of both games. I kinda wish they made a full on crossover sometimes, the closest we got to that was the Top Notch hat added to TF2 but only for Notch's account, and the Steve Co crates in Minecraft as a prank and as a protest against Team Fortress's use of micro transactions when crates were introduced.

you had me in the first half until that orange outline showed up

Now I need Rocket Jump Waltz as a Minecraft music disc

Weird how Mojang still isn't implementing motion aiming on controllers and smartphones despite these 2 additions which would benefit greatly from them

This has to be a troll. Man says “I’m not just saying this because Minecraft was inspired by Infiniminer and Infiniminer was inspired by TF2” and then does exactly that. He doesn’t give a single way that Notch’s TF2 fandom affected the game; the examples he does give are 1) a single post-Notch update and 2) *community* made gamemodes. When I started watching this video I thought “there’s no way this is JUST about the wind charge and mace, right?” but yes, I was right.

even when team fortress truly dies, it'll live through its successor

Notch went on a TF2 server and no one believed it was him so he told Valve and they made a hat that was made specifically for him.

*it's amazing how my favourite fps game created in the same year i was born inspired eventually one of the best creative, inspiring and most successful games ever created*

The start of this video made me realize that I've never actually heard of Notch's voice until now

i've never really linked minecraft and tf2 other than in the way that they're one of the most popular games of all time, but seeing an actual direct link between the two feels so good. like my two favorite games ever, jewels of my childhood, sharing a history

" Now we wait for a Minecraft combat update that adds the invis watch, the banner effects, and piss. like those poti- "

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Imagine the demoman caber creeper mob variant

Can you make a video on how older games stay alive a lot longer than newer ones like cod coc tf2 and RuneScape

when mojang will add scout's mad milk to minecraft? im waiting for it

As a former Scout main, Minecraft has become my comfort zone. I'm glad I've found a game where there's no toxicity with voice chat filled with kids yapping on the mic. I've been mainly playing on servers and having fun on Minecraft compared to TF2

minecraft community: that minecraft is bloody a spy tf2 as minecraft: No this was made possible by tf2 sniper and spy

I still don't believe that minecraft is inspired by TF2. I need more proof, but still good video as always. Edited: Expect for the wind charger thingy

I love every video you do Lucid, and i just wanna say how funny it is that the wind charge and mace get released and within days you get this out, it's insane how fast and good you are

“This creeper has already breached our defenses!”

Yay a new Lucid video!!!

This video was so well made dude! The editing and writing was top notch!

they should add strangifiers so i can have my strange market gardener in 2 games at the same time

One more thing to note - if you crouch, jump and use the Wind Charge at the same time, it will propel you way further into the air. Just like crouch jumping in TF2, which sends you higher into the air while rocket jumping.

Mojang added an achievement called "Who needs rockets?" when you wind charge jump. Although obviously a soldier reference, its funny seeing some people think it was referring to the Elytra and firework rockets.

OMG. I was testing the new update with some friends and we were joking about how the mace is just like market gardening. I had no idea about this.

TF2 and Minecraft together is a mix I did not expect was real.

Man TF2 music is super good

Did you have an idea for a video, but couldn't find enough material? Because all I see is water and a lot of mental saltos

Oh VALVe and their habit of always being in the shadows inspiring half the gaming medium! Good 'ol VALVe

How did you not mention the Top Notch from TF2 tho?

Dam didn't expect my comment to be in the video lol. this video did made me realise how tf2 has influenced many ways how we look at making or design a video game in general but I do still think they are completely different e.g Minecraft is a open world TF2 is set maps, Minecraft allows you to change the world/map TF2 doesn't (maby engineer), TF2 as a win condition/goal Minecraft doesn't(at least by the community).but I don't think that was the point of the video but I still wanted to bring it up.this was a vary cool and interesting concept of a video i was glad to hear you out as I do understand (I hope) your view point. Vary nice video and thanks for reading this blob of text 😊

no wonder why i was interested and played both games when i was a kid

Well, now I want a remake of Infiniminer.

Loved the video, I didn't even realise that the wind charge and mase took inspiration from tf2.

Freedom and player choice are the most important aspects when making a game in my opinion. Not just minecraft or tf2, but look at hl2 or portal as well, heck, even undertale or deltarune. All these games give a lot of freedom to the player and would you look at that? They're **pretty** damn popular even to this day. Fun fact: undertale is 9 years old

We need a follow up to your last video titled "Miners' Obsession With Minors"

5:36 Meanwhile the pit

Can't wait to play trolldier in minecraft lol

seeing the 2fort background made me want to watch the video bc i was curious lol

thought this was a troll until you started making sense lol

By the way, TF2 developers advertised Minecraft on their blog! In post from july 28, 2010

ive been saying that the mace and wind charge were tf2 references since i first saw the mace and wind charge

ahh TF2 the game that made my childhood and its still making

We got rocket jumping in Minecraft before gta6

Crazy how closely tied to TF2 Minecraft is at times

simply underrated creator

*Rocet jump waltz in c418 style*

sad tf2 was abandoned by valve cause the game still has big potential

When I saw the release of the wind charge, I thought of how cool the market gardening mods would be. Mods?

I'm fan of both games omg, Notch even received a exclusive hat in tf2‼️

Background music?

Love your stuff, Lucid. Keep it up!

bro i love your voice its so calming, and just chill overall.

LOL when i saw the thumbnail i was like "what? TF2?"

“Steve Co.” Mann Co.”

the thing is that notch doesnt developed Minecraft in a loooooong time, ao there no relation in between him and the new weapons of 1.21 thous are ulraf thing

You know in minecraft if you are falling you get crits? trolldier.

One was ruined by constant neglect, and the other was by constant changes

Imagine that you make a game that is not the most popular but stilll is very popular and someone who make inspiration of your game and make the most popular game ever :D

Ok I’m a shotbow player… there is a mode canon Annihilation with TF2 styled classes 8:24

I think in my opinion that that's why Minecraft can never be fully solved or completed, because ya sure, you can get all the achievements, but that doesn't mean you're done with the game, there's still so much more you can do, you can mod, play with friends, family, even people you don't know, much like alot of games, people will always discover something new to solve or to do, you can build endless things, you can connect hundreds of little details, or, you could live, laugh, and love, build a community, an online family, and I don't mean like an actual family, but like friends so close you consider them family, but no matter what, you'll have fun, not just because you're playing Minecraft, but because you might be playing it with friends, or you might not, but either way, it's not about fighting all the fights, or beating all the battles, it's about having fun, and doing what you want, so if you've got friends that have Minecraft, and you wanna play with them, then do, because you never know how much time you have left with them, so even if it's your 9 year old son, grandson, or stepson, aslong as you both like Minecraft, laughter and betrayal can happen, friends can join, chapters started and ended, a new dawn... A new story to be told

crazy that someone acknowledged my niche on the internet!

Yooo! Tf2 referenced

How fast I gotta rocket jump?