The Genesis Street Fighter 2 Which Never Was | Nostalgia Nerd
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Күн бұрынStreet Fighter 2 Turbo for the Sega Genesis/MegaDrive. It's not a title you usually associate with Sega's 16 bit games machine. After all, Street Fighter II Turbo was released exclusively on the SNES, in terms of 16 bit consoles. So what is Street Fighter 2 Turbo Beta on the Genesis/Megadrive? Well, it's a ROM which emerged in 1994 and has been roaming about since then. Nobody really seems to know how it fits into the Street Fighter 2 timeline, especially in regard to Streetfighter 2 Special Champion Edition, which was the game actually to come out on Sega's hardware. So, is this "Turbo Beta" just an early version of the Special Champion Edition, or an altogether different title, developed by a completely different team. Well, join me and we'll find out how deep this rabbit hole goes.
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SFII Beta Discussion: jul.rustedlogic.net/thread.ph...
3rd Party Development Discussion: www.sega-16.com/forum/showthre...
Discussing SFII Beta: www.sega-16.com/forum/showthre...
Street Fighter 2 Turbo Beta Video: www.vandal.net/foro/mensaje/62...
Street Fighter 2 Turbo Beta Comparison Article: www.angelfire.com/games5/sf2tb...
Polygon's Oral History of Street Fighter 2 (with interviews): www.polygon.com/a/street-fight...
Info Relating to beta ROM: hiddenpalace.org/Street_Fighte...)
SFII Facts: streetfightermiscellany.com/sf...
Minakuchi Engineering: yuki.la/vr/1820504
Father Ted Street Fighter 2: www.angelfire.com/games5/sf2tb...
blog.hardcoregaming101.net/200...
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@RageQuitter87 7 жыл бұрын
Well this was a blast from the past. I'm the guy who made the Angelfire pages you linked to, I can't believe its been 13 years since I did that! You did a good job putting all of this together, I think in the end SEGA owners got a better game. One little thing regarding 1:50 -there is something regarding the Turbo version in this Turbo beta version: everyone's alternate colors are from the Turbo version, eg Ryu's light blue gi instead of his Champion Edition gray.
@shinji097 5 жыл бұрын
Dude I see you in every video I watch. By the way, I'm big fan of your work, great videos you have in your channel, very skilled player. Greetings bro from Mexico.
@wessteinfeld3337 3 жыл бұрын
Umm no actually nice try.. Those are MY angelfire pages.. I made them with dreamweaver and uploaded them weekly along with my Pkmn website Otaku World which was HUGEEE.. Stop trying to take credit for someone elses hard work .. Not cool..
@RageQuitter87 3 жыл бұрын
@@wessteinfeld3337 If that was true, why would you put one of my e-mail addresses on "your" pages? I've noticed the Angelfire site has been deleted now, but can still be found on the wayback archive. web.archive.org/web/20200705101204/www.angelfire.com/games5/sf2tb/untitled_000004.htm Go ahead and send an email to the address on that page, I can respond. Also note that the page was created in easy web editor, not dreamweaver. Nice try ;)
@badcp455 3 жыл бұрын
Very good point made here.
@Holothurion 3 жыл бұрын
@@RageQuitter87 Big fan of you site at Flying Omelette here! It's been on my bookmarks for years now. Keep up the good work, greetings from another Mexican fan!✌🏻
@Burn_Angel 7 жыл бұрын
I'll tell you something really, REALLY weird. Strange things happen in South America. I'm a young man who lives in Argentina, and as a kid, my first console was the Sega Genesis. Yeah, of course, now I play Genesis games on a PC emulator, but now that you showed this to me, I have to say, that "Beta" Turbo version was the one I played as a kid, on my Genesis, and I've never played any other version on console, only on emulator. Not only that; I had three Genesis as my childhood went, and I had three cartridges of SF, and guess what? They were all that version. In fact, I remember a cousin that had the Championship edition, and I always told him "There's something wrong with your game, Street Fighter is not like this". One of the most important differences between the Turbo version I had and my cousin's was that the Turbo version didn't have a pause button, and it only had two bonus stages (the car and the barrels), while he also had the brick bonus stage, and of course, Start button was pause. The colours were kind of different, but nothing I could really care about as a kid back then. Strange thing that a supposed Beta was released as an actual version of the game, huh? South America, I tell you.
@leandrojimenez 4 жыл бұрын
Yo también soy de Argentina y tengo el mismo cartucho, increíble, yo pensaba que SF2 era así lisa y llanamente 🤣
@nicolasdipalma9888 4 жыл бұрын
@@leandrojimenez Amigo, tengo el mismo cartucho y recien me entero que Street Fighter 2 Turbo no existe en Genesis
@bangerbangerbro 3 жыл бұрын
Someone in the comments section of a gameplay video of the later prototype without the black bars remarked that it was "a thousand times better than the one with the black bars", and said that he had seen the black bar one being displayed in Brazil, reckoning it was so bad that it made the decision for him to get it on SNES.
@wessteinfeld3337 3 жыл бұрын
You guys were lucky to have non dysentery water... 4th world BS lmaooo
@Burn_Angel 3 жыл бұрын
@@wessteinfeld3337 Uh, my country is over one of the most important aquifers in the entire world...
@Aboveup 6 жыл бұрын
"Which then leads to it being 5AM, leading further and further down the rabbit hole." [Checks clock and it's 5AM]
@thekornreeper 4 жыл бұрын
4-51 am here
@michaelspellman6264 3 жыл бұрын
5:07AM haha
@mspeter97 4 жыл бұрын
And guess what? Now we have prototypes of this version
@donkeyparadise9276 5 ай бұрын
Where
@6000pounds 7 жыл бұрын
I feel so old watching this episode. I remember raiding the loose change drawer in our house and being happy to find $1.50. You had to ride your bike up to your local market or arcade and put your quarter on the edge of the bottom of the screen. There would be 10 different people surrounding the cabinet and you would study your future opponents while he fought other people.
@smokeyvv 5 жыл бұрын
yuuuuuuuuuuuuup. No one ever skips and everyone knew their quarter/turn. I remember people lining up to take me on. Those were the days. Im 35 now. :(
@abysmal 5 жыл бұрын
smokeyvv Yup. Those were fun times. I’m 33 so we’re around the same age. Going to the store or arcade & watching others play. Learning new things about the game by watching other people play, then sharing information and becoming friends. The days before online play where you couldn’t just look something up, you had to discover it or learn about it from someone. But you became real life friends afterwards, not online “buddies.” Yup, I feel old, too. Haha
@smokeyvv 5 жыл бұрын
@@abysmal yes its true. Met a few good friends in there.
@uno3863 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember just with 50 cents I was happy playing it, got so good I became a self proclaimed grand Master at this game, no one could beat me, I could even make out the other players attacks and counter attacks 👍
@Bronzodiriacefashion 5 жыл бұрын
@@abysmal The same way for me. I'm 38 y.o. (I live in Naples) and I met the actual friends during that period. I can remember that atmosphere surrounding players that had got great skill on SF2. There was a player with dhalsim that was really strong and the opponent, sometime, tried to shoryuken the elongated arms ^_^
@Larry 7 жыл бұрын
Great episode Sir!!!
@howdears2114 7 жыл бұрын
Larry Bundy Jr I love your vids 😄
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
Chars Lazza.
@nimaiiikun 7 жыл бұрын
i almost thought his voice was yours!
@troywright359 6 жыл бұрын
Bundy Jr does get about a lot eh? Has anyone ever asked him the story behind being named Larry just like his dad?
@jebvoorhees125 6 жыл бұрын
Larry is a complete beta punk.
@timdene 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the ending with the Tex Murphy photo! Made me laugh a lot. Thanks. Great stuff, Peter!
@DAZZYVANDAM 7 жыл бұрын
I never tire of watching Street Fighter 2 vids....One of my top 5 games of all time!!! Great video mate!
@Monkey_SK 7 жыл бұрын
One of your best videos to date, well done! These game history/mystery type subjects are well worth exploring further. Although avoid telling me what happened to Championship manager 2 for the Amiga, I still believe one day it may arrive!
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
It's coming out Christmas 2018.
@kjwhite24 6 жыл бұрын
God I loved this so much. I remember seeing the screenshots of SF2 with the black bars as a kid and being furious that we were clearly getting a knock off version for the Genesis. I think it may have been in a Gamepro if I remember right. When SCE finally came out that fall I was overjoyed at what it ended up being, voice quality be damned. Thanks so much for this trip down memory lane!
@jamesbrian9828 6 жыл бұрын
The nostalgia-inducing commercials in this episode alone are amazing, LoL. Undoubtedly reminds me of my childhood, thank you!
@eraserrainlantier3040 6 жыл бұрын
Wow. I've been collecting fighting games for years and never heard of this little tail on my side of pond before this video. Really nice work on the video as well. You really brought back my days playing SF2:CE flooding back.
@megatron1877 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome review on this man! Good old days of the 90s!
@lafayettecathey3409 7 жыл бұрын
megatron1877 ha! Used to play this on SNES now play on tablet lol.
@joecaljapan 7 жыл бұрын
What is with that button placement on that street fighter '92 arcade????
@jesuszamora6949 7 жыл бұрын
Joseph Calandria I was aboit to say, that looks absolutely nightmarish.
@Ruinah 7 жыл бұрын
Joseph Calandria Most likely a hack job conversion kit. I don't recognize it off hand, but it was probably some 3 button game that had the extra buttons added for the conversion. Most JAMMA games prior to SF2 only had 2 or 3 buttons, which is why the MD/Genesis shipped with a 3 button controller.
@dbnpoldermans4120 7 жыл бұрын
No official cabs have that layout. Probably some local bs wooden cab maker or indeed an ancient cab converted. brrrrr (shivers)
@CommodoreFan64 7 жыл бұрын
It's for sure a JAMMA cab conversion of an older game, but I'm trying to pinpoint what game it could have originally been.
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
Trust me, in that arcade, it fits with the general "aesthetic" of the place.
@Rayofficial13565 7 жыл бұрын
This was just remarkable. Probably your best video ever. I remember seeing the screenshots of this game in an American magazine, maybe it was Electronic Gaming Monthly... and I remember the black bars on the top. I was excited for its release.
@itsaPIXELthing 6 жыл бұрын
What an amazing piece of investigation, Pete! Incredible! Well done! Cheers!
@jonnyo2121 5 жыл бұрын
I was around 17 when CE was released and it was huge. My friends and I would be at the arcades until midnight, get a midnight meal at Dennys and then back home to play the SNES version, sometimes until the sun came up. People forget that at the time, arcades were really struggling. 90s tech gave it a shot in the arm, and pinball was making a comeback, too, so that helped, but overall it was still just the nerds in the arcades. SF2 single-handedly revived them. SF2 was one of those rare games that crosses over into the mainstream - even non-gamers had to play it. I remember one night when around 50 people were gathered around four SFs and the tokens were lined up 15 deep. It was electric. Nothing "organic" like that exists today offline, but it can still be found at the big shows and tournaments.
@1khardimon 4 жыл бұрын
Those great arcade days!! 😁😒
@picketf 4 жыл бұрын
I was 11 when CE came out. Had the opportunity to play Fatal Fury 2 and Mortal Kombat just weeks after their release too. A few years later I found a place with a King of Fighters big screen (dlp rear projection) deluxe cabinet with a 2-player cushioned bench.... I could be there for 24hrs there were always people around. When finally all the pro's had left I checked out the attract screen just for a few seconds and got challenged to VS match even before sitting down. I don't even particularly like KOF but that cabinet was something else. Never seen that type of setup for fighting games ever since...
@cybertrongaming4007 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing video i love playing street fighter 2 a true classic fighting game.
@marceknight0475 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Here in Argentina, this game was the first Street Fighter that come out for the Genesis. Time later, the Street Fighter II Plus. I never knew this was a beta version. I remember owning this game back in 1998
@ryzmaker11 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, this was a fantastic video! Lot of interesting bits, everything was very well put together and I loved that bonus investigation at the end ^^ Also, sometimes I'm a bit harsh towards Capcom's work on the Mega Drive which in most cases could have clearly been better (could have been higher res, with better sound driver etc.), but watching this video, I discovered Akira Nishitani and instantly had some respect for him, fortunately there are people like him, not afraid to demand further work for quality sake!
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! Indeed, I found it fascinating that the development team were actually able to outvote Capcom US and the marketing team and delay the game's release.
@TONYskittlezzz 6 жыл бұрын
I only bought a SNES back in 1992 because of Street Fighter 2 lol 😆!!! - I'm glad it was released years later on the mini SNES 😂😂😂!!!
@bigdofba 4 жыл бұрын
I did the exact same thing.
@mikemsea4086 3 жыл бұрын
These were the days before the world turned to shit
@stonetic2515 6 жыл бұрын
Orange Blanka with blue hair was a Turbo color set.
@Wagoo 7 жыл бұрын
Some stellar digging going on there, nice one! :)
@namakudamono 6 жыл бұрын
Wow, excellent video! I loved the comment about comparing screenshots being reminiscent of debating which version is superior with school friends in the early 90s...those were the days!
@shalpp 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm wrong but if Capcom had went in-house from the start the game could've easily been an arcade perfect conversion. genesis runs at a higher resolution than the SNES, so given the time they could've produced slightly larger graphics instead of porting over the SNES graphics based on that aspect ratio. I feel that the music and sound effects could've been better too as a result, they could've worked their dualPCM driver to output at a slightly higher quality, and the compositions themselves could've been much much more faithful to the arcade port since the FM chips on the genesis and the cps1 board are very similar as far as functionality and sound (both are 4 operator synths modulating only a sine wave, where the arcade (2151) has 8 channels and no pcm/dac, and the genesis (2612) had only 6 with the last one used as a pcm/dac channel in place of an instrument) Super fantasy zone is the perfect example of this, as it has the original fantasy zone's ost programmed in the game that actually plays with a button combo on the title screen, and that's nearly 100% to the original game But part of me thinks even with the added time Capcom would've gimped the sega version for the sake of console parity with the snes release. There's many many factors here that can go into play. Nevertheless this was definitely an interesting video. I remember stumbling upon the thread some years back and being genuinely intrigued by sega-16's theories and it's nice to see that someone else felt this was important to make known
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
It's true that the Genesis hardware is more closely aligned with the SFII arcade board, so it's a possibility.
@saturndual32 7 жыл бұрын
Arcade perfect?, no way. But better use of the MD hardware, sure.
@augustusclaudiusvenorius6292 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, didn't the SNES run at higher resolution?
@owynmerrilin 7 жыл бұрын
SNES had more colors but ran at a lower resolution. In general, anyway. The SNES did have a high res mode, but in that mode the SNES was even more limited in color than the Genesis, so it was rarely used except for menu systems and the occasional still picture. The Genesis' CPU was also about twice as fast as the one on the SNES. Which isn't to say the Genesis was more powerful, they were very different systems with very different strengths and weaknesses.
@segasonic9117 5 жыл бұрын
You read my mind!! The MD version should have been better in all aspects. Just look at the CPS1 conversions SEGA Japan did in the early days of the MD. Games like Daimakaimura were hampered by tiny cart size, ifvit had been 8Mbit like Strider Hiryu and the Super Grafx version, it would have been better. I always hated that they used the SFC graphhics rather than sarting from scratch. The SFC game had a lower resolution so it could run the game due to its crappy CPU speed. The MD did not have that problem and should have been full screen. You only have to look at something like Bare Knuckle II to see that SFII should have run at full screen on the MD. The music should have been cleaner and almost arcade perfect. There was also no excuse for those voices! I always disliked the redrawn background graphics on the SFC version. Another reason I wish the MD version had been from scratch. I bet SoJ could have made a far more faithful version. Shame the amazing Final Fight CD team didn't make a MEGA-CD version! Now THAT could have been arcade perfect!
@TheThirdFall 7 жыл бұрын
A really, really great video this time! I absolutely enjoyed this - I was never a Sega man, but I can't tell you how much I enjoyed this. More investigations, please!
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
I'll do my utmost best sir.
@justanotheryoutubechannel 6 жыл бұрын
Great video mate, as always! Love the channel.
@Ace_of_DiscaL 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video! Great insight (and a nice compact history lesson as well).
@azalin1 6 жыл бұрын
There's a simpler explanation. Back in the day, both Capcom and Konami were infamous for taking sides in the console war in turn and intentionally self-sabotaging games for the non-favored side. From the godawful TMNT: Tournament Fighters for the Genesis to the "wait for the 24hrs download" DMC 4 for the PS 3. This was just par for the course. *Fun Fact:* The "Cancelled version" reached Mexico's shelves, I do remember that infamous letterboxed screens when I was a kid.
@Fusionx916 7 жыл бұрын
WTF is with that button layout in the arcade?
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
When I walked in that arcade, I thought "WTF is with this arcade"... the button layout appears to be a continuation of that theme.
@DemonDethchase 7 жыл бұрын
Fusionx916 totally, I can remember seeing recently a SNK vs Capcom and the buttons (4 of them) were in this diamond formation but with rather large gap in the middle. Nothing can beat that layout I thought but here this gives it a run for its money. To give you some idea it (the SvC machine) was something like this O O O O *Shudders*
@ChickenMcThiccken 6 жыл бұрын
you think that is bad. the very first street fighter game only had huge buttons you punched.
@ChickenMcThiccken 6 жыл бұрын
before buttons were used.
@gamesessions 6 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this - thanks for putting it together :)
@zachreddy 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! I was doing my own research into the Champion Edition version not too long ago, based on my memories of those early magazine screenshots. I didn't get very far before I gave up. Thanks for doing the legwork and finally putting the question to rest.
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
You are entirely welcome!
@schtive81 7 жыл бұрын
Street Fighter II: SCE uses all of the same sprites and tile art from the SNES version of Street Fighter 2. It also runs at the same lower resolution of 256x224 that the SNES game did. Typical Genesis games display at 320x240.
@19AGJ86 6 жыл бұрын
The 90's were awesome!
@Bronzodiriacefashion 5 жыл бұрын
the best, I agree
@thekornreeper 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely
@c.glazercrush3994 3 жыл бұрын
Oh how much harder would bison of been with a descending psycho crusher from the air.
@Corumis 7 жыл бұрын
incredible video , very nicely done sir
@djopulence 7 жыл бұрын
My goodness gracious! Absolutely fantastic analysis.
@BillKeyz 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info
@M4rtyMcFly21 7 жыл бұрын
10:40 the kids acting here is HORRENDOUS!
@Floatillyboats 6 жыл бұрын
Great video man! Well edited!
@dibbsgaming 7 жыл бұрын
Great vid, this is prob my most anticipated game of all time & I followed it's development with extreme excitement back in 93 since I first saw the screenshots in mean machines Sega. I still have all those mags up to its review actually! Great to see this revisited, and you seem pretty much bang on the money - I was very concerned by those black borders at the time and it wasn't until the Hyper Fighting enhancements announcement that Mean Machines had pics with the energy bars correctly overlaid on the backgrounds. Great stuff sir! Subbed too!
@thatwasntworthit 5 жыл бұрын
9:58 and now we know why the episode was made
@elijahmodnar1 7 жыл бұрын
the beta had the "danger" music also right? (sped up music when your near a KO, the KO would flash, in the arcade)
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
Yes, indeed it does, although it feels a bit jaunting when it kicks in.
@Tanakun09 6 жыл бұрын
Great episode, keep up the good work
@privateprivate31337 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, was not even aware this beta existed.
@ta0paipai 7 жыл бұрын
Capcom finally stood up to Nintendo's iron fisted, monopolistic practices. I was so happy when SFII finally made it to the Genesis. Streets of Rage 2 held me over till that point!
@ronindebeatrice 7 жыл бұрын
"I'd like some pound cake!!"
@jacobnoergaard 7 жыл бұрын
That was really interesting! Keep up the good work!
@jamesmincks3804 7 жыл бұрын
great video. The Street Fighter series is my all time fav gaming series.
@millgiass 6 жыл бұрын
The championship edition on the Genesis is WAY faster than turbo if you crank up the hyper stars.
@Megalocade 5 жыл бұрын
Blast processing!
@GRANKOR 5 жыл бұрын
You need to put in a cheat code to get the full speed on the SNES Turbo
@hangemhighhilton 5 жыл бұрын
@bee boo Genesis does what nintendon't.
@Gawron339 5 жыл бұрын
@@hangemhighhilton Yes it's true, but SF is way better on SNES :).That genesis version is realy crap, sound was better even on NES :).But the best is offcourse arcade version, hyper fighting.
@SegaDream131 5 жыл бұрын
Benny hill style.....
@DerInspektor 7 жыл бұрын
What is the song in the beginning?
@JohnGodwin 5 жыл бұрын
Just want to say that I absolutely love your videos.
@atik1798 7 жыл бұрын
I love Street Fighter and this was a really interesting video. Cool Father Ted segment too. Thanks a lot for this, made my evening :)
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Many thanks!
@freezycold 7 жыл бұрын
Another clue in the Father Ted footage is the "first attack" text, which wasn't introduced until Super.
@darktetsuya 7 жыл бұрын
wow I'm glad I'm not the only one that remembered the earlier beta with the black bars, I remember seeing that in EGM back before the game was even finished, but I don't recall ever seeing a ROM of that version, just the one featured in the beginning of the video here.
@urdnal 7 жыл бұрын
Man I didn't recall it watching the video, only now having read your comment, but I haven't thought of those black bars since... I too saw them in EGM back then. I don't even remember being relieved that they were gone when I finally got the game, but they were a real disappointment back then.
@darktetsuya 7 жыл бұрын
while I was watching it I stopped to google it with 'black bars' and a few of those same images came up... I think what stood out the most was the engrishy typo 'BRANKA' in the early screens, and sure enough they were all there! no idea if there's any ROMs that exist of that version though, would've loved to see that!
@ibrohiem 7 жыл бұрын
I did remember the black bars when reading egm back in the day also. I just figured they optimized the code that they didn't need the black bar anymore. Who knew they scrapped the whole thing and started over from the begining.
@blakfloyd 7 жыл бұрын
DarkTetsuya, I still perfectly remember the black bars and "Branka" like it was yesterday. EGM was good times! urdnal and ibrohiem, I was never all that bothered by the possibility of the black bars' being in the final game for some odd reason. If something similar were to happen with a port today, it probably would bother me oddly enough. I think back then I was just stoked about the possibility of playing current top-tier arcade titles at home with what looked like 95% true-to-the-arcade graphics (at the time, to my 12 year old eyes). Shit, just being able to play as the bosses felt like I'd gone covert and stolen some level of clearance I wasn't actually qualified for lol.
@darktetsuya 7 жыл бұрын
yeah really... I do wish they had kept whatever the sound programming was in that early version of the game, it actually sounds way better than what we got!
@aljo9872 5 жыл бұрын
I am French, a Street Fighter II AND Father Ted fan. That last bit was the icing on the cake. Thank you for this great video !
@burntoutculture2147 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video this, really informative
@GreyHulk2156 7 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone usually pronounces Ryu as Dyu! ;P
@GrantWitherspoon 7 жыл бұрын
It's supposedly closer to the Japanese pronunciation
@beanpole_brando 5 жыл бұрын
Weebs who cant roll their r’s do
@segasonic9117 5 жыл бұрын
They do in Japanese
@beanpole_brando 5 жыл бұрын
Segasonic91 no they don’t, they say ryu but roll their r’s
@segasonic9117 5 жыл бұрын
@@beanpole_brando Wrong. I am fluent in Japanese, and I know from the way I was taught. It is a sort of soft D sound. Listen to the way Ryu is pronounced in the SFII movie or even the SFII V tv series or any OVA that followed.
@petrus7977 6 жыл бұрын
8:53 yes thats my favorite ASSET of all: CHUN LI
@swampdonkey4919 4 жыл бұрын
She was the object of many a prepubescent boy's sexual fantasy.
@michelledurney8356 7 жыл бұрын
It's only a bleedin' whistle! Many thanks for explaining which version of SF2 they were playing on Fr. Ted!
@ClownNaround 5 жыл бұрын
That intro reminded me of the smell of a phone book that’s been left out in the sun, and the excitement of popping that AOL disc for 60 free hours into my clunky disk drive on my Compaq Presario, and waiting for it to finish dialing so I could finally get onto the official Pokemon 2000 movie website!
@MrJWTH 7 жыл бұрын
One possible way to know if this is the same developer of The Wily Wars would be to get s ROM of that and look up the names of the developers because unless they were cautious enough to change aliases for each work there should be a significant overlap if it was the same developer.
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
I did go down that avenue, but couldn't validate it - at least not with the data I sourced. Of course, given Minakuchi were working on other projects at the time, they could have brought an extra team in to assist.
@SmaMan 6 жыл бұрын
On some of the forum posts you showed in the video, and ones I've come across in my own research, there seems to be a segment of people who are convinced this is little more than an elaborate pirate cart. I'm not of that mind, but it's interesting. Other than a message of someone taking credit for a "hack" I don't know how that could be the case. (Though I remember plenty of NES pirates being branded as prototypes back in the early days of the web, too.)
@SianaGearz 6 жыл бұрын
But the pirate cart has to be based on something, right? It's not very likely the pirates would even attempt to cram the complete movement system complexity in, and then get it right, and then also put in lots of text lines from the arcade version that they didn't end up using. Seems more like a legit commissioned dev team, whoever they are.
@enemyofthestatevcdking5982 6 жыл бұрын
Actually there were 2 sf2 turbo demos. The non capcom beta black bar demo "sf2 turbo" and another which might be capcom beta "sf2 plus" both clearer music imo...nice sega16 screenshots of our convos about this btw...you can find both beta Roms on Sega 16 forums...many threads about it with some information you missed I think...I can link you to the Sega 16 threads you forgot for your description if you want...also it was suppose to be released on Sega CD ! Anyway a Color + Audio v7 hack is now out that makes the Genesis version better than SNES and TG16 versions because Capcom was lazy when making it for MD !
@Skuntac 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love the forum link and the color + audio v7 hack link !
@thedevilbunny 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, great stuff! I love Father Ted and remember wondering what they were playing with on that ep! Nice detective work!
@TwistedSoul2002 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid- really well done. Nice to see 17 mins full of information! Never owned an MD so didn't know much about the history on the MD. Always thought my snes version was superior until I discovered you can do cps1 chains on the MD version...
@campz0r 5 жыл бұрын
"The color and graphics are excellent!" - Things girls in the 90s said
@junglejamesie 7 жыл бұрын
That would be an ecumenical matter....
@blackhatfreak 6 жыл бұрын
junglejamesie yes I suppose you’re right
@sw1000xg 4 жыл бұрын
YES!!!
@loungejay8555 4 жыл бұрын
Feck off!
@ken131 6 жыл бұрын
Nice Tex Murphy reference at the end
@owenfitzgerald3219 7 жыл бұрын
Another Feckin' GREAT Show Ted! Thank you very much from Ireland.
@eznosnopes5276 7 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the combo system initially accidental?
@Inaworldoflove 7 жыл бұрын
Yes. It was an error and what an amazing error.
@Video-Games-Are-Fun 6 жыл бұрын
even better than the 3M post-its error. yes, they were also designed by mistake.
@Splozy 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it was not developer intended. Which Capcom fanboys always seem to forget whenever they rag on Melee players for playing a game with systems the developer didn't intend either.
@zaphod77 5 жыл бұрын
What was not intended was canceling moves into others for combos. there were normal link combos that were intended. they were an unintended consequence of allowing specials to cancel normals so they would come out easier than in sf1, where they could not.
@overkill1473 5 жыл бұрын
Look up the Akira Nishitani interviews. He states that they were fully aware of the combos later on in SFII WW development. And they left the combos in deliberately and even expanded on that.
@Siosal01 7 жыл бұрын
This episode deserves a double thumbs up!
@dbnpoldermans4120 7 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Perhaps a follow up as more info surfaces.
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
Many thanks (although doing that will cancel the first thumbs up)
@Burning_Typhoon 5 жыл бұрын
There's not a lot of videos I watch, and then come back a year later to watch them again.. start to finish.
@arpegio88 7 жыл бұрын
You've got to have A LOT of time on your hands to research all this stuff, but I'm glad you did because I'm such a longtime Street Fighter fan.
@Atro785 6 жыл бұрын
hey hey hey HEY....the Dreamcast was sega finest console and it's life and death are still very sad points in my life.
@mikebigelow561 4 жыл бұрын
That's right brother... put out to pasture way way to soon... was way way better than competing systems at the time and still to this day has some of the best arcade ports ever made...
@jimmykewley8386 4 жыл бұрын
Come on, we all know Sega's finest hardware was the full MD CD 32x trifecta triple stack of greatness.
@MANOFGOD9000 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimmykewley8386 32X: Someone...liked me? Thank you.
@MANOFGOD9000 4 жыл бұрын
The only console I ever bought day one! 9999 will always be a special day for me.
@michaelaranda5220 7 жыл бұрын
Did this beta version make it on the PC Engine??????????
@yohkom.7988 7 жыл бұрын
All of these versions - PC Engine, Mega Drive and SNES - use similar assets which first appeared with the SNES port of Street Fighter II the World Warrior but there are also many differences in presentation and game engine. Most notably the PC Engine version has a black bar behind the life gauges (a bit similar to the Mega Drive beta version here: 5:30) and has the screen reduced verticaly. It also lacks the parallax scrollings and some graphics details such as the moon at Ryu stage, both can be seen here in the Mega Drive versions: 7:37 (the moon is also lacking in the two SNES versions, World Warrior and Hyper Fighting). Also the PC Engine version lacks a third bonus stage but this is due to Hucard size constraints. The Mega Drive final version is also the only one with the arcade intro. Beside, the Mega Drive port also has some exclusive game modes and lot of turbo options.
@mythplus4689 7 жыл бұрын
They had originally planned for several other entries in the "Street Fighter II" series. Since the original was 'the world warrior', they had also planned an "The Ocean Warrior" with aquatic characters, "The Desert Warrior" with a focus on dry environments and dusty combatants, and even a "The Space Warrior", which would have taken the player on an interstellar journey to defeat cosmic villains.
@TheDormonid 6 жыл бұрын
Such amazing research work man
@EatingCtrlV 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, really interesting!
@GlitchyBastard 7 жыл бұрын
"Cyberspace, sex free"
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
That kid's face cracks me up.
@GlitchyBastard 7 жыл бұрын
Nostalgia Nerd ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@keir92 4 жыл бұрын
“Pronounciation error” - ironic place to say pronunciation wrong.
@thechickenskull 7 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal and thorough. Great job, man.
@syteanric 3 жыл бұрын
This was great! I know have Balrogs music stuck in my head!
@robintst 6 жыл бұрын
I never cared about SFII Turbo on the SNES because I hated playing it with that controller. Trying to hit the L and R shoulder buttons in quick succession in the middle of a fight usually cramped my hands, the cross D-pad didn't feel right for move input, and it was just overall an unpleasant experience. I don't care how much nicer the game looked and sounded on that platform, the latter is subjective taste anyway, fighting games of the day almost always played better on the Genesis because of the 6-button controller having all the attacks as face buttons and the D-pad having rounded diagonal directions. If you didn't have an arcade stick, that was as good as it got. Even if I didn't like the Genesis more than the SNES both then and now, I'd still feel the same about the controller layouts.
@chadbrick67 5 жыл бұрын
Coz you are from a 3rd world country and are dumb
@gordonwalden5961 5 жыл бұрын
ummmmm all you had to do was configure the controller in the settings to switch L & R to Y & A..........
@chadbrick67 5 жыл бұрын
Snowflake
@monkbyblood 5 жыл бұрын
lol comment savagery
@classicmail8239 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like some pound cake!!!!
@ProbableKoz 7 жыл бұрын
This is your best video yet.
@TransCanadaPhil 7 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a kid and first saw those screenshots too in an issue of EGM back in the 90s. I remember I had noticed the "Branka" name issue and the black bars and was concerned about the quality of the game, then later that summer being pleasantly surprised to see the finished product of SFII SCE looked completely different, better, and nothing like those screenshots.
@wobedraggled 7 жыл бұрын
I still love the PC Engine rendition...
@Shinobi33 4 жыл бұрын
@@xplics nigga you don't make any sense
@xplics 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shinobi33 R U Breepin Or Uz Aloodingz out???
@Shinobi33 4 жыл бұрын
@@xplics nigga u tripping
@MarkMcDaniel 4 жыл бұрын
@@xplics -- Put down your doobie, and learn English.
@xplics 4 жыл бұрын
@@Shinobi33 thas RACISTZ
@theNSXman 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting!! Enjoyed your video well done
@dazwannawzad9272 7 жыл бұрын
Ahhh the memories. Luckily I still have my genesis champ. Edition in the case with instruction booklet and all. A treasure from my youth that i still go back and play all these years later. Nice vid, th !!!
@drakkenmensch 6 жыл бұрын
4:23 SNES Ron Weasley should pay more attention to his character getting pummeled by Honda instead of watching the television... what am I even saying, he's clearly not playing the game and is just added in post, he's spamming his attack buttons continuously even while Blanka is not attacking.
@HereForAStorm 7 жыл бұрын
Still better than Street Fighter 5
@deucespades9416 7 жыл бұрын
ronjon83 yep
@erickjohnson7703 7 жыл бұрын
ronjon83 stfu
@throbnshaft182 7 жыл бұрын
ronjon83 what a stupid bitch
@TheJurnalyst 7 жыл бұрын
ronjon83 Street Fighter Ex plus Alpha.... Best Street Fighter EVUUUR!
@Kanzuki 7 жыл бұрын
Terrible joke
@PhilShary 7 жыл бұрын
After watching the intro I suddenly want to explore the magical world of "Internet"
@CAMZAB 7 жыл бұрын
Good video and we haven't missed out on anything. Apart from Branka maybe.
@Tempora158 7 жыл бұрын
12:13 I have never heard anyone butcher the pronunciation of Keiji Inafune's name so badly until now...
@Rationalific 7 жыл бұрын
+Tempora158: Hehe. "Kiji Uwayfon" (ウエーフォン キジ)
@ChristopherSobieniak 7 жыл бұрын
ShadowBanned Thank you!
@JCentavo 7 жыл бұрын
+Rationalific Wouldn't it be Uweifan?
@pjomayo 7 жыл бұрын
Unless you're Japanese,who cares?
@DodderingOldMan 7 жыл бұрын
He also pronounced Linehan 'Line-han' when talking about Father Ted. Gasp! @ShadowBanned The amusing thing is that you devoted at least twice as many words to complain about someone complaining about something. Guess that makes the basement you dwell in twice as deep. You utter, utter moron.
@yohkom.7988 7 жыл бұрын
All of the console versions - PC Engine, Mega Drive and SNES - use similar assets which first appeared with the SNES port of Street Fighter II the World Warrior but there are also many differences in presentation and game engine. Most notably the PC Engine version has a black bar behind the life gauges (a bit similar to the Mega Drive beta version here: 5:30) and has the screen reduced verticaly. It also lacks the parallax scrollings and some graphics details such as the moon at Ryu stage, both can be seen here in the Mega Drive versions: 7:37 (the moon is also lacking in the two SNES versions, World Warrior and Hyper Fighting). Also the PC Engine version lacks a third bonus stage but this is due to Hucard size constraints. The Mega Drive final version is also the only one with the arcade intro. Beside, the Mega Drive port also has some exclusive game modes and lot of turbo options.
@bizarrowxrld2089 6 жыл бұрын
Listen to that piano riff and pause at 0:09 😂😂😂😂 that was me as a small lad!
@robmortimer4150 7 жыл бұрын
Great video. Something I'd love to know more about is the Amiga (poss other home computer) version of Sonic 1 that was licenced by US Gold before the Megadrive version was released. I read about it at the time, but I've never anything more about it since then!
@nocuh 7 жыл бұрын
Here's another mystery. As a kid gearing up for a sleepover weekend I remember reserving & renting SF2T for snes on launch day at my local video store, and there was a black letter box behind the lifebars & highscores. Also the voice audio was...wrong. They were different from the SF2 cart everyone knows, the announcer especially was closer to the awful SSF2 cart's audio to come later...and there was greater latency between the announcements. I hated it. The title screen did however say STREET FIGHTER 2 TURBO: HYPER FIGHTING and not SF or w/e like the beta. At least I'm pretty sure it did, that's a detail I'd likely remember more clearly if it were irregular. At the time I chalked it up as "it is what it is" like it was just a ruined port until a few years later I got a sfc cart, which everything is correct and expected. I still haven't found a rom of that cart I rented.
@Rationalific 7 жыл бұрын
+naka doots: Yet another mystery. It is interesting how that version got out "into the wild" and into your hands. (By the way, I remember playing a strange SFII game at a pizza restaurant, but it was a hack.)
@dbnpoldermans4120 7 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you played it (or indeed the md version) on another crappier tv at a friends house?
@CommodoreFan64 7 жыл бұрын
+Rationalific The hack you played in the arcade was called Street Fighter Rainbow which is a Hong Kong bootleg arcade board that was sold to arcade owners for cheaper then the Capcom official version, the ScrewAttack aka GameAttack guys had one of the machines in their office for several years, and held tournaments on it, but I'm not sure if they still own it, but the videos they made about it where funny AF!!!
@nocuh 7 жыл бұрын
My tv was a hand me down Sylvania Superset from the mid 80s, I think my friend's house had a 90s Magnavox. Game looked and sounded the same, and also on another friend's Atari monitor. The scust was so strong it kept me from buying the game. edit: Friend's house may have been a Panasonic tv. It was a _very 90s_ set with rounded corners and contours unlike the other boxy 80s displays used. Altogether that makes a 13 or 14" a 19 or 20" and a 27" display all showing the same letterbox type background on top, behind the high scores and energy bars.
@dbnpoldermans4120 7 жыл бұрын
I think it could've been any of the hacked jamma pcb's. Several different ones were produced. The Rainbow edition was perhaps the most common one, so yeah it probably was Rainbow edition.
@jan_harald 7 жыл бұрын
lol, good subtitles, like "corrobate" instead of collaborate
@Nostalgianerd 7 жыл бұрын
Standard.
@barrybudget2611 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I love street fighter 2 turbo on the snes. I still have it from brand new many moons ago. thanks for the time invested in the research. great work! :)
@KMFDM_Kid2000 7 жыл бұрын
Impressed how well done this video was. Respek.
@cybertrongaming4007 7 жыл бұрын
i always thought that the street fighter 2 sega version looks just as great as snes version put that just my opinion.