The Geopolitics of Tamriel: Geography & the Elder Scrolls

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Stoneworks

Stoneworks

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This video is a long look at how the geography of Tamriel from the Elder Scrolls games would facilitate the geopolitics and rise of states and empires. I was torn between making a video that covers the *actual*, lore-based geopolitical situation as we saw it in Skyrim- the Empire falling apart, the Aldmeri Dominion threatening it, the Argonians invading Morrowind, but that's been so covered that it wouldn't be unique. Going over the fantasy geography of Tamriel seemed like a great way to cover a lot of geographical concepts as they pertain to world-building in one single video, so here you go!
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00:00 Hello, my dude
1:27 High Rock
4:17 Hammerfell
7:48 Cyrodiiiiiil
12:17 Elsewhere
14:43 Valenwood
15:47 Summerset (and bosmer bussy)
17:43 Skyrim
19:55 Black Marsh
21:46 Morrowind
Map used:
www.deviantart.com/fredoric10...
Totally Awesome Elder Scrolls Music:
Intro/Arena:
• Video
High Rock/Daggerfall/Elder Scrolls 6?:
• Daggerfall Theme (Orch...
• Daggerfall Soundtrack ...
Hammerfell/Redguard/Elder Scrolls 6?:
• Video
• Daggerfall Soundtrack ...
• Daggerfall Soundtrack ...
Cyrodiil/Oblivion:
• The Elder Scrolls IV O...
• Eternal Renewal, Obliv...
Elsweyr:
• The Elder Scrolls Onli...
• The Elder Scrolls - Ar...
Valenwood:
• The Elder Scrolls Onli...
Summerset Isles:
• Daggerfall Soundtrack ...
Skyrim:
• Sovngarde (Full Lyrics...
Black Marsh:
• The Elder Scrolls Onli...
Morrowind:
• Video

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@alexschmidt443
@alexschmidt443 4 жыл бұрын
Nord: ''Do you live here in skyrim?'' Kahjit: ''No, i'm just trading here. My home is Elsweyr'' Nord: ''Oh, Where is it?'' Kahjit: ''Elsweyr'' Nord: ''Yeah, i heard it the first time, but where exactly?'' Kahjit: ''In the City of Dune'' Nord: ''Dune? Never heard of it. Where does it lie?'' Kahjit: ''Elsweyr...'' Nord: ''I have enough of your games, cat! Meet your gods!'' **Oblivion Battle Music Plays**
@hr473
@hr473 4 жыл бұрын
😆👍
@tobydunn7240
@tobydunn7240 4 жыл бұрын
Better writing than Oblivion
@jamesmaclennan4525
@jamesmaclennan4525 4 жыл бұрын
Could be worse he could have been from Noweyr
@restinpeas1284
@restinpeas1284 4 жыл бұрын
This is just an elder scrolls version of Who's On First lol
@sarosp9330
@sarosp9330 3 жыл бұрын
Whose on first
@the7045
@the7045 4 жыл бұрын
this would be a cool setting for a game
@YuiFunami
@YuiFunami 4 жыл бұрын
maybe 5 if we're being so bold
@non1263
@non1263 4 жыл бұрын
You bet your sweet bippy it would.
@sporeham1674
@sporeham1674 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe 5 games, an MMO, a card game, and a mobile game?
@pr1sccc
@pr1sccc 4 жыл бұрын
nah it’s too inconsistent
@guarddog9556
@guarddog9556 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah until you Start releasing a 5th one on Samsung fridge
@broomy1610
@broomy1610 4 жыл бұрын
“Violence is never the answer, it’s a question and the answer is yes” -Pelinal Whitestrake probably
@FumblsTheSniper
@FumblsTheSniper 4 жыл бұрын
Now *that* is how you comment on youtube.
@DarnedYankee
@DarnedYankee 4 жыл бұрын
"If they got pointy ears, they'll live no more years" Also Pelinal Whitestrake probably
@EShiv42
@EShiv42 4 жыл бұрын
"UMARIL, YOU ARE HUGE, THAT MEANS YOU HAVE HUGE GUTS. RIP AND TEAR YOUR BIG GUTS!" -Pelinal Whitestrake definitely
@KohenBlassingame
@KohenBlassingame 4 жыл бұрын
I guess you can concur anything If you have a massive robot god.
@pelinalwhitestrake8195
@pelinalwhitestrake8195 2 жыл бұрын
Violence is always the answer and the answer is indeed yes
@zangoloid
@zangoloid 4 жыл бұрын
Dear imperials, if you love to enforce property rights as much as you claim, why are you trying to take my farming equipment? -Ormin Dres, Grandmaster Turning Point Dres
@ofthecaribbean
@ofthecaribbean 4 жыл бұрын
You can't own someone unless they sell themself because everybody owns themselves
@2yoyoyo1Unplugged
@2yoyoyo1Unplugged 4 жыл бұрын
Of the Caribbean The Argonians, or “fetchers” as I like to call them, are not people, strictly speaking.
@ngaese
@ngaese 4 жыл бұрын
the layout of your text reminds me of how magic the gathering does their lore on playing cards. well done
@averakair9831
@averakair9831 4 жыл бұрын
@@2yoyoyo1Unplugged Your right they are genetically and magically modified mortals under rule from a daedric hivemind.
@michaelweiske702
@michaelweiske702 3 жыл бұрын
@@averakair9831 where on earth did you get that from? The accepted account from the Imperial record details that argonians are a race of beastfolk that inhabited Tamriel before the races of men and mer. They survived the invasions because the black marsh was impenetrable to non-argonian groups. They gain their magic and abilities from the hist trees who show no evidence of being Daedric in origin.
@Great_Olaf5
@Great_Olaf5 4 жыл бұрын
I have one thing to point out in Blackmarsh. The Argonians aren't the only thing you have to take into account. The Hist are a hugely important aspect to not only the land, but they also have influence on the Argonians themselves. I don't remember if it was mentioned in the game, but the Argonians are actually changing, and have been since shortly before the Oblivion Crisis, with the implication that The Hist are altering them to be better fighters and more prepared for the increasing chaos of Tamriel.
@flamesofchaos13
@flamesofchaos13 4 жыл бұрын
The Argonians are simply an extension of the Hist so same difference.
@LordBriareos
@LordBriareos 4 жыл бұрын
Might have been from those two canon novels about the flying city. I remember the Hist being a big part of that storyline.
@averakair9831
@averakair9831 4 жыл бұрын
@stevie yanuza Well it's 20 times harder to invade when you are fighting against a magically made plague that the inhabitants are immune to.
@AndrewVasirov
@AndrewVasirov 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, so that's why they no longer look as weird as in Morrowind?
@saintbob2030
@saintbob2030 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndrewVasirov Probably not, since Argonians appear like they do in Oblivion and Skyrim in The Elder Scrolls Online which takes place in 2E 582. The Argonians in Morrowind could either be a different genetic alteration of the Argonians like the Nagas caused by the slave labour of the Dunmer or (more likely) just the original appearance they were going to have in The Elder Scrolls games.
@Kris_not_Chris
@Kris_not_Chris 4 жыл бұрын
It's not entirely marshy, but the southern US is a single gigantic wetland, so a large wetland is not completely impossible
@michaeldaugherty3540
@michaeldaugherty3540 4 жыл бұрын
Texas south east coast does agree swamps for miles
@Angelo-nd4lg
@Angelo-nd4lg 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldaugherty3540 u guys are argonians
@arjunsatheesh7609
@arjunsatheesh7609 4 жыл бұрын
True, the Pantanal region in Brazil is an inland wetland that is estimated to be at least 140,000 sq.kms (approx. 54,000 sq. miles) and the Sunderbans in Bangladesh / India is at least 10,000 sq.kms. (approx. 3,900 sq. miles) of river delta and coastal mangroves that are marshy. Large mangroves make sense especially when there are huge rivers draining into them.
@DarnedYankee
@DarnedYankee 4 жыл бұрын
@@Angelo-nd4lg As a Breton who has visited this land magical land called "The United States", there are quite a few Argonians in that region of the nation.
@ilyaakadishtungha7337
@ilyaakadishtungha7337 4 жыл бұрын
​@@DarnedYankee Ah yes indeed, I hear the Floridian region is known to harbor all maner of reptilians in it's wetlands. Particulary, the legendary Dread Saurians have been observed to grow to enormous size and stroll about in broad daylight, with little thought or care as to the humans inhabiting that region
@ThrottleKitty
@ThrottleKitty 4 жыл бұрын
"A marsh like this could never exist" Florida, Mississippi, & Louisiana: Are we a joke to you?
@SuricateG4551
@SuricateG4551 4 жыл бұрын
Not That big
@knohtfaique7575
@knohtfaique7575 4 жыл бұрын
Florida is a joke to everyone
@norrinradd6746
@norrinradd6746 4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that real marshes are natural structures formed by natural processes and not magical havens constructed with intention by magical sapient trees in order to keep out invaders. I have a feeling that this might change things just a teensy bit regardless.
@navilluscire2567
@navilluscire2567 3 жыл бұрын
@@norrinradd6746 Well as long as were using *"cause magic"* which in no way feels like a cheap hand wave or like saying *"I couldn't be bothered to come with a detailed magic system with clear limitations or metaphysical principles it might work on but have given very vague and nonsensical 'laws' (laws with no context) or implied limits but nothing precise because that'd get in the way of my creativity."* Note: I'm not saying I hate having magical reasons for why things exist in a setting infact I love settings that embrace a sort of lore of nature instead of just our real world physics but with (usually) sloppily slapped on magic system(s) just that far too often it seems *many writers think having a detailed mythology and metaphysical framework is the same as saying "cause magic, duh" it's not* but I also think you don't have to front load those details at the start as that would be too daunting and frankly tedious. That's not to say a detailed magic system can't feel like magic but only such information should come organically in a story or gaming experience, letting the lore of the world and the magical underpinnings of it's nature seamlessly resonate with a player that gives the whole a mystical feeling without compare.
@BlackCat-dm5yg
@BlackCat-dm5yg 3 жыл бұрын
The Netherlands, the Fontanel (probably spelled it wrong, it's in Brazil) and Ruthenia (modern day Ukraine, it used to be a massive marsh) Edit: England used to be a giant marsh too
@hugoguzman4985
@hugoguzman4985 4 жыл бұрын
iirc, Elsewyr was historically two kingdoms, one in the desert and one in the southern jungle.
@vitriolicAmaranth
@vitriolicAmaranth 4 жыл бұрын
Anequina and pelletine, yeah. As of Skyrim they are divided but both thalmor vassal states iirc.
@navilluscire2567
@navilluscire2567 4 жыл бұрын
@@vitriolicAmaranth Well that's technically true, but also incorrect there was MANY more kingdoms and other political entities BUT the two kingdoms, Anequina and Pellentine would come to be the two domineering powers in the region and both would in time come together to form the bases for the Eylswer we see today, atleast culturally and even then that's oversimplifying things. There's still a number of distinct cultures and tribes that don't identify with the current political entity of the former province, even before the Aldmeri dominion Eylswer was a land rife with tensions between tribes and cultures that felt marginalized by the dominant political and ethnic groups or the ones that were given over lordship by the Septim empire who created the contemporary borders we are familiar with today to suit their desires and goals not something so natural or locally arose. Just look at the disenfranchised "Reachmen" of Markarth an ethnic group that for centuries has had the Tamrielic Empire backing the Nords as overlords to the region with attempts to marginalize and wipe away the Reachmen's culture and identity, ethnic tensions are high in that area with many Reachmen dreaming of an independent country and since the old Septim empire will not recognize them and continue to side with their Nord allies they likely want to be completely free from the Empire's political influences and sphere of interests. But anyway just wanted to say that there's definitely more going on in each *"province's" corner of the world (which by the way, more than half of the so called provinces aren't even provinces anymore)* and their regional politics and often overlooked internal divisions, *the only reason one province is known for a particular race or culture is only because they are either the dominant group within their respective regions or were the groups that had the Empire's backing and allowance as rulers in previous centuries before the break up of the old boundaries, they were and still are NOT the only groups within these places. (again remember the unrecognized or disenfranchised Reachmen)*
@user-qd8yy9lc4g
@user-qd8yy9lc4g 3 жыл бұрын
A big reason why Anequina and Pelletine hold together would be that, well, they are inhabited by Khajiit. Northern nomads and southern traders obviously have some beef with each other, but from both east and west they are surrounded by historic Khajiit unfrendlies (Bosmer and Argonians), and their cultures are quite dissimilar. And, a Mane said to hold together once, and established a system where both sides get equal time ruling whole country. Thalmor disrupted this pact because it was done with some Imperial support, but Khajiit-land is still Khajiit-land, as it was in times of many kingdoms, two or one.
@berilsevvalbekret772
@berilsevvalbekret772 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-qd8yy9lc4g anequina's worrior culture clashes with Palletine's merchant clan culture pretty badly.
@Arystanbek98
@Arystanbek98 2 жыл бұрын
16
@PortaTerzo
@PortaTerzo 4 жыл бұрын
Serious underestimate of river defenses, handwaved with "they need to be heavily fortified to be useful". Unless you have a shit ton of boats, you can't just cross a major river from any part of the river, but you have to use a ford, which tend to be something like 50 kilometers apart, therefore there are only a few spots you have to defend. Moving a large army across a ford is tedious and the bottleneck has allowed many defenders to repel greater numbers.
@090giver090
@090giver090 4 жыл бұрын
The downside of the rivers is that they may freeze if the winter is cold enough, change its course over time, and may get shallow with a lot of unexpected crossing points if the summer is hot enough or winter at the riverhead is dry enough. So they are better then swaths of forest or, Daedra forbid, large plain. But not as reliable as mountain range.
@iwankazlow2268
@iwankazlow2268 4 жыл бұрын
@@090giver090 Historically, there is no war in winter. It is suizide to start wage a campaign. You may cross the river, but what next? Have fun with scorched earth tactics and constant raids you can't outlast. And for ducks sake, IF the winter is cold enough to freeze the river over, how do you expect your army fair against the weather? How do you manage the already hard logistics of war with the cold on top of that? Limited forraging and supply possibilities on top. There can be skirmishes, but a campaign is stupid. We have historic victories and defeats in winters because such campaigns were extremely rare and essentially big fat gambles of the invaders. To the other points. Same goes the other way around. If you can just cross now because the river is shallow enough, welcome to your death trap. Forget reinforcement, supplies and a possible retreat as options. And your opponent knows you are stuck.
@wisemankugelmemicus1701
@wisemankugelmemicus1701 4 жыл бұрын
Fjord*
@090giver090
@090giver090 4 жыл бұрын
@@iwankazlow2268 There are few historical accounts of Germanic raids when they bypassed roman limes crossing the frozen Rhine. Also in 1237/1238 mongols conquered north-eastern Russia IN WINTER using frozen rivers as roads. Oh, and remember a country called Ottoman Empire? It started when in 1302 Sakarya river became shallow due to drought making Byzantine fortresses useless and allowing Osman Gazi to expand his small Beylik westward.
@darnokthemage170
@darnokthemage170 4 жыл бұрын
@@iwankazlow2268 In Scandinavia War was mainly done in the winter for larger armies. You can easily transport very heavy good anywhere with a sled on snow. It is also easier to dicover ambushes and such without leaf coverage.
@JosephSmith-lm4ri
@JosephSmith-lm4ri 4 жыл бұрын
*describes daggerfall city placement perfectly* We're off to an amazing start.
@chadnorris8257
@chadnorris8257 4 жыл бұрын
I get the feeling that if there's a desert in the middle of a giant forested region, the desert was likely created by deforestation.
@auctoris1536
@auctoris1536 2 жыл бұрын
It could be. Mirvale in ESO is stated to once have been a prosperous city, but slowly declined to become The Scar in part to environmental degredation.
@CommanderM117
@CommanderM117 4 жыл бұрын
Morrowind and skyrim being realistic Emperor palpatine; a surprise to be sure but a welcome one
@elvastan
@elvastan 4 жыл бұрын
There was a polity in the mountains, it's called Old Orsinium
@seraphina985
@seraphina985 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense mountains are not good for farming but they are very defensible and they often mean relatively easily extracted mineral resources. In most climates, arable plains are more abundant than good rich and relatively accessible mineral deposits. So once metallurgy becomes a factor setting up shop in ore-rich mountains and exploiting the natural terrain advantage to make it more costly to acquire said resources from you by force than by trade is a viable strategy. That said the high ground could become a tomb if a power manages to conquer or subjugate the lands surrounding your mountains at that point being largely dependent on trade for vital commodities like food renders you vulnerable if that power decides they would rather not give you food for minerals anymore and instead decides to deprive you of the former until you are too weak to stop them taking the latter.
@dawoifee
@dawoifee 3 жыл бұрын
@@seraphina985 Tell that to the Inca ;)
@jarrah580
@jarrah580 3 жыл бұрын
@@seraphina985 "very defenesible" hasn't orsinium been sacked hundreds of times?
@Gamespud94
@Gamespud94 4 жыл бұрын
It's always cool to see detailed analysis back up what happens in the lore because most of what you pointed out is in fact built upon in various sources in the lore. For example, most of the provinces aren't nearly as unified as they appear from that silly province map. While the races are largely confined to those borders the polities within them are often more numerous. Cyrodiil is actually a union of the Nedic people who dominated the Niben Valley and the Colovians who dominated the Highlands. The Redguards of Hammerfell are split into two major factions along the northern Illiac bay coastline and the southern desert and plains. Vice versa for Elsewyr with northern desert tribe and southern jungle-coast tribe. And Daggerfall is just a mess of city-states that are all reliant on the Bay, Except the Orcs who live throughout the mountains where Bretons and Redguards can't root them out.
@navilluscire2567
@navilluscire2567 4 жыл бұрын
Even with these divisions between members of the same race that more or less dominates their respective (in most cases former) "provinces" there's groups that are largely marginalized or were forgotten by the lore or even created for the chance to explore new cultures and historic tensions that just adds much needed nuance and more conflicts to the world. *Take the struggles between the oppressed Reachmen of the Markarth region and their Nord overlords, ethnic tensions on top of political tensions (pro empire nords fighting their pro independence nord cousins) is just icing on the geopolitical cake!*
@happychest239
@happychest239 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the Orcs are now based in the Border between Hammer fell and Skyrim , probably in the Craglorn region, it wouldn't surpass me if they are in conflict with the Reachmen who also have a presence in North eastern Hammer fell around Dragonstar.
@MrBones-td6qn
@MrBones-td6qn 4 жыл бұрын
"Conclusion: I delete Pro Stormcloak comments" *lmao*
@Stoneworks
@Stoneworks 4 жыл бұрын
Never should have come here!!
@josephiroth89
@josephiroth89 4 жыл бұрын
Skyrim belongs to the Nords!
@003mohamud
@003mohamud 4 жыл бұрын
You'll make a fine rug, cat!
@Stoneworks
@Stoneworks 4 жыл бұрын
LoNeWoLF DRaGoNSLaYeR the skaal can fight me
@Valencetheshireman927
@Valencetheshireman927 4 жыл бұрын
@Josephiroth -Long live the empire !
@melodiousapollo7307
@melodiousapollo7307 4 жыл бұрын
Stop! You violated the law. Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence. Your stolen goods are now forfeit.
@draugarnatt3816
@draugarnatt3816 4 жыл бұрын
19:51 "Damn faithless Imperial..."
@juke9674
@juke9674 4 жыл бұрын
I like your conclusions because a lot of what you said about minor kingdoms happened in the interregnum/during the 2nd era when tamriel was way less united
@juke9674
@juke9674 4 жыл бұрын
Examples: Hegath, Colovian estates etc.
@navilluscire2567
@navilluscire2567 4 жыл бұрын
Which was frankly an interesting time in Tamriel's history, don't get me wrong I like the idea of a unified Tamriel as much as the next Septim emperor but honestly it made for some STALE geopolitical worldbuilding and exploration of divergent stories, closer looks at new (cuase why not?) or existing (mentioned in lore) cultures or races that have been largely ignored or marginalized by the larger political systems of the old Tamrielic empire. If anything I wouldn't mind if the further splitting of the old empire continued, heck I wouldn't mind seeing the Aldmeri dominion wanna be 2.0 also experience it's own internal problems, rebellions, new cultural movements, ethnic tensions and political intrigue as well, showing that the big BAD dominion is not as secure and monolithic as they'd like the empire and everyone else to believe they are. *It's partly why I'd love to see the next elderscrolls title be set in either Eylswer or Valenwood it could be a way of showing the Aldmeri dominion's true political realities and that things don't always appear to be totally under control, even at home.*
@mrcopycat2355
@mrcopycat2355 2 жыл бұрын
@@navilluscire2567 Hopefully the Empire falls in TES VI and an alliance emerges between independent provinces against the Thalmor. Possibly a new Orsimer kingdom that will fall in a decade! That'd be fun
@mon0lithic629
@mon0lithic629 4 жыл бұрын
Hey you, you're finally awake. You walked right into that Imperial ambush, same as us and that thief over there...
@tricklewickle
@tricklewickle 4 жыл бұрын
Damn you Stormcloaks! Skyrim was fine until you came along. Empire was nice and lazy.
@lucyditee
@lucyditee 3 жыл бұрын
@@tricklewickle If they hadn’t been looking for you, I could’ve stolen that horse and been half way to Hammerfell. You there. You and me - we should be here. It’s these Stormcloaks the Empire wants.
@tristanb4772
@tristanb4772 3 жыл бұрын
@@lucyditee Were all brothers and sisters in binds now, thief
@tristanb4772
@tristanb4772 2 жыл бұрын
@Jacob Wilson It was a month ago I didn’t remember what it was
@theartificer3456
@theartificer3456 4 жыл бұрын
12:07 You mean it would take a time-travelling emperor using a reality-warping failed god-device?
@zanseinofan01
@zanseinofan01 4 жыл бұрын
"I don't think it has much to worry about from Skyrim." Too late, Nords already invaded over two centuries ago. They crossed through a mountain pass near near Elinhir and captured the city and half of the city of Dragonstar. Though Elinhir was seemingly retaken, they still held eastern Dragonstar decades later, so it could very well be some kind of hermit kingdom. And with the Orcs having set up shop in those mountains, Craglorn is look to stay an "oft-disputed border kingdom".
@navilluscire2567
@navilluscire2567 4 жыл бұрын
I think that's his whole point with the modern Skyrim region as being a power base for a mighty empire or kingdoms. A would be expansionist king might find it relatively easy to unify all or much of skyrim today into one country or kingdom but trying to project power beyond the mountains that make up most of the region's natural boundaries is while not impossible and a would be conqueror could certainly try to expand beyond the mountains it will at best be VERY difficult to conquer outside territory because of the bottlenecks in the very mountain passes or gaps that give the conqueror such security also makes it easy for even relatively weak or smaller kingdoms to defend against a much larger force uf they happened to exist along such openings and can set serviceable defenses. *At worst it's likely such an ambitious state won't last for very long as it would become exponentially more expensive and costly to maintain control of such places, spreading your already precious resources to the breaking point in costly foriegn wars.*
@danielshore1457
@danielshore1457 2 жыл бұрын
@@navilluscire2567 I don't think skyrim could become a power anytime soon in lore, it would need a competent leader to unify all of skyrim which would be difficult because of the reach man while they may not seem powerful if the tribes in the mountain borders decided to also come down it could be a problem especially with their unknown magic (such as the briar hearts) you would perhaps need to grant them some levels of sovereignty (ie petty kingdom type deal). Now onto the fact that Skyrim needs some serious rebuilding done during the time of the game skyrim is run down all the forts are ancient and hardly fitted for war same as a lot of the cities such as winterhold, Windhelm and falkreath far from their prime, you would also need to find a way to reintegrate the college of winterhold into society as well as build up dawstar as a naval port to defend the North, only then do I believe it could be possible for skyrim to be self sustaining. (not mentioning the dragons as I personally belive there was like a nerevar situation where the DB like went north to atmora with the remaining dragons and paarthanax dunno why I just feel like it should happen). All in all I reckon Skyrim at most could become a sort of blackmarsh type thing as the mountain ranges are easily defended with the pale pass being the only reliable and safe way to come in from the south, I feel if there was a leader able to do that then skyrim could be very powerful, but at the time with the two options Ulfric nor elisif could do that as Ulfric is too focused on outside of skyrim and elisif is just too weak and not decisive, I think a leader like Jarl balgruuf could be great high king as whiterun is arguably the most functioning city (falkreath a shadow of its former self, dawnstar and mortal are run down and have little in defense, riften and markath run by corrupt officials, winterhold is well winterhold, windhelms racial policy is just a mess, and solitude lacks any strong and effective leadership if tullius wasn't there it'd be fucked.
@charlesolsen7559
@charlesolsen7559 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine depending heavily on rivers for defense only to get invaded by argonians.
@mambojambo4870
@mambojambo4870 4 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes, this is just what i needed after a long day at work
@schnoz2372
@schnoz2372 4 жыл бұрын
Same
@Agawin007
@Agawin007 4 жыл бұрын
F
@JB-xl2jc
@JB-xl2jc 4 жыл бұрын
Regarding an invasion from High Rock/Skyrim over the Jerall mountains into Cyrodiil, this is actually how Tiber Septim/Talos/Cuhlecain ended up conquering Cyrodiil and starting the latest incarnation of the Empire (not counting the Mede dynasty which sort of continued the Septim one kind of).
@logansmith2703
@logansmith2703 4 жыл бұрын
"William the Conqueror, Knüt, not the Mongols they got wiped" bruh
@ashwinnmyburgh9364
@ashwinnmyburgh9364 3 жыл бұрын
I am obsessed with Tamriel and The Elder Scrolls. So this was epic.
@shitasscock5936
@shitasscock5936 4 жыл бұрын
they should turn the map into a game
@g4fly4ever8
@g4fly4ever8 4 жыл бұрын
We need an official strategy game
@riccardomartina9517
@riccardomartina9517 4 жыл бұрын
@@g4fly4ever8 yeah, and then name it something like "Elder Kings"
@riccardomartina9517
@riccardomartina9517 4 жыл бұрын
@@g4fly4ever8 and I'm not telling you to go searching up on the steam workshop for "Elder Kings". Straight up no.
@silverdeathgamer2907
@silverdeathgamer2907 4 жыл бұрын
@@riccardomartina9517 Societies need some work and the Orcs need an Empire tier Orsinium title but it is really good for a mod
@storyspren
@storyspren 4 жыл бұрын
"...and take a small chunk of Auridon" I've seen this before! It's a classic!
@sirpatrick549
@sirpatrick549 4 жыл бұрын
I hope the remake lives up to all the crazy antics of the original.
@zombieranger3410
@zombieranger3410 4 жыл бұрын
Totally won't have any repercussions for the people of Auridon in the future for sure!
@NotASovietSpy1
@NotASovietSpy1 4 жыл бұрын
hey guys my potatoes are a bit moldy
@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653
@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 4 жыл бұрын
@@NotASovietSpy1 Ohhhh you want the fertile land back huh?...Nope!
@NotASovietSpy1
@NotASovietSpy1 4 жыл бұрын
@@eldarhighelfhealermiriella7653 please sir were literally having to eat the dead and grass to survive to the next day stop exporting what little food we have left
@fzzy5739
@fzzy5739 4 жыл бұрын
I’M GONNA CHIM!!!
@romulusnuma116
@romulusnuma116 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy this laid back kinda video
@unamericano
@unamericano 4 жыл бұрын
As a MASSIVE TES fan and one time Elder Scrolls GM one thing to keep in mind with the worlbuilding in TES is that the geography is not what we know of as a "natural" formation caused by plate tectonics and erosion but most of what you see on the map are, for lack of a better description, the corpses of the et'ada that were sacrificed in Lorkhan's plan for Mundus. It just so happens their bodies are mountains and rock, ect. Oh and water is Memory.
@sunsolar2138
@sunsolar2138 9 ай бұрын
Sorry to write after three years, but it's not the first time I've heard about water being Memory could you explain what that means?
@unamericano
@unamericano 9 ай бұрын
@@sunsolar2138 It's literally memory. The information of the world. The Hist can absorb it through their roots and it's part of why they can maintain themselves "ahead of the game" even as immobile trees.
@TheEepyMagi
@TheEepyMagi 2 жыл бұрын
I just thought: if Black Marsh invaded Elsweyr or up the Niben River, they wouldn't even need boats. They can breathe underwater. Argonian troops could ambush troops defending important positions if their fort is next to a river.
@mxmlnlcdcdffmnt2232
@mxmlnlcdcdffmnt2232 2 жыл бұрын
Yay but for war yoy want armor and weapon, they can a very good "commando" units but not fighting ones
@RealAiMiyazaki
@RealAiMiyazaki 3 жыл бұрын
13:00 - explaining why there's a desert in elsewhere Me - AMOGUS
@cralo2569
@cralo2569 2 жыл бұрын
confirmed
@brojangles8816
@brojangles8816 4 жыл бұрын
Geography is so underrated, it determines and undermines strategic success but given that this is a fantasy world certain real world concepts cannot simply rule out everything. I think the best pick has been in front of us this entire time and that’s the Empire of Cyrodiil. Throughout it’s long history we’ve seen 3 dynasties rule descended from the Nedes nomadic tribes that settled in Cyrodiil what would eventually become the Imperials. These empires have withstood countless civil wars, interregnums, foreign invasions from mortals and Daedric gods. It is no surprise he who would control Cyrodiil is the wealthiest and adept to handling a variety of conflicts. Imperials are natural diplomats and traders and they can govern diverse populations. This long history of owning Tamriel for most of it’s history has made them the most experienced of all races as they are keen on documenting all they find. The Imperial City is the most wealthy city in all Tamriel as well as most defendable, each city in Cyrodiil is highly fortified with strong reinforced stone walls and developed infrastructure allowing advanced trade and intellectual advancement. It comes to no surprise that the Imperial heartlands can fortify as well as project it’s power and influence in not just Tamriel but in many cases although not successful Akavir as well but notably they can colonize it. No other race has been able to sustain a cultural melting pot and have cosmopolitan rule, Imperials have inter grated the other races in a balanced free society. The Legion goes down as the most effective fighting force in Tamriel bar none does anyone come close to the tactical genius of Imperial commanders. It should be said that the Empire beat the Dominion when they essentially cheated in the Great War using a Daedric artifact “Vaermina’s Orb” to spy on Imperial troop movements. They basically beat an enemy that knew their every move. Cyrodiil is just the best province for Empire building, I don’t think anyone can pull it off like the Imperials, Ayleids were too cruel and the ones they subjugated rose up and defeated them. The Empire is fair and all it’s citizens are protected as well has equal rights. All the cities are advanced and settle in the most fertile lands of Tamriel.
@jeremyday9056
@jeremyday9056 3 жыл бұрын
I really really enjoyed this video. And I loved the different music for each province. It is cool seeing Tamriel from a different, geopolitical perspective.
@S1lva139
@S1lva139 4 жыл бұрын
nice work looking forward to the next one. Love the analysis on the different countries and how realistic they are.
@Ultravenom1
@Ultravenom1 4 жыл бұрын
technically, modders are those who have reached AMARANTH rather than mere CHIM.
@sarosp9330
@sarosp9330 3 жыл бұрын
Explain?
@sarosp9330
@sarosp9330 3 жыл бұрын
@Minwon Jang thank you!
@whiteeagle9769
@whiteeagle9769 3 жыл бұрын
@Minwon Jang CHIM in a sense can be explained as an in universe explanation for saving the game and stuff if I remember and amaranth is creating their own game/mod in universe if I remember
@noobsaibot8780
@noobsaibot8780 4 жыл бұрын
0:58 Actually this island "Vvardenfell" is an artificial island and used to be a part of a continent.
@antonaspire6802
@antonaspire6802 4 жыл бұрын
Source?
@yourehereforthatarentyou
@yourehereforthatarentyou 3 жыл бұрын
red mountain along with vvardenfell came about when auri-el tore out lorkhans heart and shot it into the ocean with his bow im pretty sure anyway, that might be like an in-universe tale about how it happened rather than actual lore
@Joker22593
@Joker22593 3 жыл бұрын
@@yourehereforthatarentyou lorkhan's heart is in that volcano though. Most lore in ES is probably true rather than probably false.
@piersoncalley2236
@piersoncalley2236 3 жыл бұрын
Vivec's 36th Sermon says the Inner Sea was created by the first Numidium; but the Sermons are a series of elaborate lies used to tell truths, so that must be taken with a grain of salt.
@sawyeranderson4166
@sawyeranderson4166 4 жыл бұрын
Actually some of the best content on KZfaq, great job
@And-ur6ol
@And-ur6ol 4 жыл бұрын
You should add "Ladyofscrolls" to the list of lore youtubers. Honestly, she might be the best of them when it comes to deep in-depth lore.
@thefakebarrybonz4492
@thefakebarrybonz4492 4 жыл бұрын
you can't just quote a porn parody with that "curved swords" thing that lydia said
@randomorange562
@randomorange562 10 ай бұрын
I love running around hammerfall in elder scrolls 6. The map is so full of life for a desert. It was such an amazing $60 industry standard game. …least starfields out.
@seiban8455
@seiban8455 4 жыл бұрын
The Reach belongs to the Forsworn!
@silverdeathgamer2907
@silverdeathgamer2907 4 жыл бұрын
*The Empire*
@navilluscire2567
@navilluscire2567 4 жыл бұрын
#Reachmenethnostate (not a real hashtag..) It would be interesting to see the Reachmen in successfully carving out or gaining a kingdom of their own again, would definitely make the future maps of Elderscrolls 6 look funky in a cool geopolitical way. It wouldn't have to a Reachmen state headed by the radical Forsworn group though, there's probably other Reachmen that wouldn't mind having an independent and reconized country by the Empire if that ever became optional in the future, maybe brokering a deal for military support in exchange for a kingdom, a kingdom allied not a part of the Empire, though that'd probably make alot of Nords very upset and disgruntled though, which would be interesting to see THAT spectacle unfold.
@rowanblair5694
@rowanblair5694 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you look at the map of Runeterra from League of Legends, they have an interactive map that I think you could have a blast analysing.
@ledanoir1239
@ledanoir1239 22 күн бұрын
I love what you said about high rock main hypothetical power because thats how the spanish organized the war in Cuba, segmenting the island as it was thin and elongated
@Stitchx066
@Stitchx066 2 жыл бұрын
Love your energetic personality. Made the video more fun :)
@sagacious03
@sagacious03 4 жыл бұрын
Neat video! Thanks for uploading!
@hamoodyman9239
@hamoodyman9239 2 жыл бұрын
You do a nice job of making Tamrielic geopolitics that much more enjoyable
@pepesaur3874
@pepesaur3874 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Currently doing a War Studies based Tamriel game and this video has proved very useful.
@Bob_the_Jedi
@Bob_the_Jedi 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video!
@caio757
@caio757 Жыл бұрын
Okay, i love this style of video
@scottnunyos2315
@scottnunyos2315 2 жыл бұрын
Great idea ! Keep thinking like this
@gentlemandog4985
@gentlemandog4985 3 жыл бұрын
19:52 "Those are some bold words for someone in shouting distance..."
@sahahorria
@sahahorria 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, you did it bro
@nostear8261
@nostear8261 3 жыл бұрын
I liked the idea that no one really won the war and eastern Skyrim because a semi recognized independent Kingdom
@hallamhal
@hallamhal 6 ай бұрын
I was expecting the conclusion for the Black Marshes to be "NINININININININININI!"
@kyleellis9177
@kyleellis9177 3 жыл бұрын
What would have happened, if Helgen's soldiers reacted to the first dragon roar and manned the defenses in time?
@anthe999
@anthe999 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed your video. I would've metioned that 2 kingdoms rule over Elsweyr, Anequina and Pellitine. For a very long period they were at war with eachother until they tried to unify, but that failed because the 2 kingdoms are so different.
@gustavsprieditis4035
@gustavsprieditis4035 2 жыл бұрын
13:00 GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD
@skem9622
@skem9622 10 ай бұрын
17:00 actually, if you want to use historcial basis a larger fleet of small skirmish/hit-and-run ships are effective against the kind of large ship needed for an invasion, see the Spanish Armada
@dejanjakobovic9803
@dejanjakobovic9803 3 жыл бұрын
We need total war: The elder scrolls
@mxmlnlcdcdffmnt2232
@mxmlnlcdcdffmnt2232 3 жыл бұрын
Yes but only after Total War: The Middle Earth
@bottasheimfe5750
@bottasheimfe5750 3 жыл бұрын
just gonna say now, the ruling on Cyrodiil will be different depending on whether or not you speak of cyrodiil BEFORE Tiber Septim achieved Chim and became a god. before he became a god, Cyrodiil's environment was a LOT more jungley than as we see in Oblivion. although TECHNICALLY he changed history altogether so that Cyrodiil was always the way it is in oblivion, time has no real meaning in the Elder Scrolls when you start digging deep so you'll need to assume that time DOESN'T break every once in a while, which it does. enough to be scary.
@dantaylor9132
@dantaylor9132 4 жыл бұрын
Unsubscribed as soon as you said you supported the imperials. My ancestors are smiling at me imperial, can you say the same?
@DuelJ007
@DuelJ007 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, this comment here officer.
@viracocha6093
@viracocha6093 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@Valencetheshireman927
@Valencetheshireman927 4 жыл бұрын
@Dan Taylor -What you rebel’s like to forget is that the empire is what’s keeping the dominion out of Skyrim. You may be thinking that’s not true because you see Thalmor agents all over Skyrim but if the empire ( aka the Dominions only serious opposition) falls at this point then that would leave a power vacuum open for the Altmer to fill that would allow the Dominion to completely conquer Skyrim .
@CommanderM117
@CommanderM117 4 жыл бұрын
that and admitted that whoever controls the center controls skyrim witch is true for both sides plus if we dunmer get are homeland fix Eastern skyrim got there Dunmer friend to back them up
@georgecostanza712
@georgecostanza712 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@VenomLion
@VenomLion 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the title of this vid I knew the algorithm had struck gold.
@luciusdomitiusaurelianus8826
@luciusdomitiusaurelianus8826 4 жыл бұрын
To the people flaunting Hammerfell as an example of an independent state being able to throw out the Thalmor: The Empire left troops there to aid in the campaign. It is literally stated in the book The Great War.
@jamesmccloud7535
@jamesmccloud7535 4 жыл бұрын
nah dude stormcloaks supporters will not admit that or just completely ignore the fact that the empire is part of the reason they are still alive.
@tricklewickle
@tricklewickle 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but the fact that Hammerfell is still an independent province is proof that the Thalmor and Empire can be thrown and kept out. *FAITHLESS IMPERIALS*
@teyrncousland7152
@teyrncousland7152 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmccloud7535 Maybe it's because the empire is nothing more than a substitute for Thalmor occupation?
@teyrncousland7152
@teyrncousland7152 4 жыл бұрын
No the Great War mentions only Redguards fighting the Thalmor to a standstill for 5 more years. The "invalids" probably left since the WGC was signed. Ever since then Hammerfell was completely independent, proving that there is no need for neither the Dominion nor the empire and Skyrim can do the same.
@ImFelipeFreitas
@ImFelipeFreitas 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I don't know: how the Alik'r Desert was created? High Rock in the north is a giant forest. A few km south, we have a huge desert. Maybe cold ocean currents and the location near the "equator" and the "tropic", similar as the Sahara, turn the Alik'r into a desert? I love the geography of TES, it's amazing! Great video!
@the_dropbear4392
@the_dropbear4392 4 жыл бұрын
You say craglorn area doesn't have much do worry about from Skyrim but Skyrim ruled over that area for quite awhile when they invaded and took it from hammerfell
@flamesofchaos13
@flamesofchaos13 4 жыл бұрын
He did go on to say Skyrim can control outside territories as long as they're united within Skyrim and it has control of the passes through the mountains. Lose the passes their attempts at empire crumble. Obviously back then they had the Hammerfell Passage controlled...Also you can find it in-game it's the one close to Falkreath, Though I believe there's one close to Markarth too if I remember right.
@dutchpatriot17
@dutchpatriot17 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, they only managed to conquer Elinhir and (half of) Dragonstar because Hammerfell was divided.
@the_dropbear4392
@the_dropbear4392 3 жыл бұрын
@@dutchpatriot17 Hammerfell is almost always divided. And Skyrim was divided at the time too
@tylerfletcher1982
@tylerfletcher1982 2 жыл бұрын
You should do more stuff like this with other fictional maps
@Dave-ge4ft
@Dave-ge4ft 4 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@PRWolf
@PRWolf 4 жыл бұрын
great video !
@Ubyman91
@Ubyman91 3 жыл бұрын
Ok so maybe i'm a little late to the party, but thing about Elsweyr, although it is a single province, it is comprised from two kingdoms, those kingdoms' capitals and centres are around the desert, as you suggested. What splits them is the desert, Elsweyr is only united as a province because the same peoples, the Khajiit inhabit both kingdoms. So basically it does make sense.
@johnbarcenas5098
@johnbarcenas5098 3 жыл бұрын
Yo that Redguard theme slaps
@paddyjarns
@paddyjarns 2 жыл бұрын
I was not prepared for that "you bet your sweet bippy I did" decapitation 😂
@WiggaMachiavelli
@WiggaMachiavelli Жыл бұрын
The provinces are defined not by the plausibility and viability of local unifying powers, but by devolution from an external conquering power.
@meisalno3974
@meisalno3974 4 жыл бұрын
so what is wrong with the parts of Tamerial that you have circled at 0:59 , i know that a desert in Elswyer makes no sense but what about the other three locations you have circled
@Stoneworks
@Stoneworks 4 жыл бұрын
Okay Vvardenfell- giant island surrounded by two... arms reaching up around it. Only really makes sense if the island grew out from the middle of those two arms, which in the lore it did but irl I don't think that shape can occur on such a large scale due to how continental plate uplifting works. Blackmarsh- 20:08 Imperial City- I guess it depends on the specifics of the lake vs the river. I think the river is so much bigger than the lake, so it's likely that island would erode away pretty quickly due to its current. Or at least, be a hydro-dynamic tear shape like many river islands are. Good question though I wasn't sure how to casually mention these in the vid
@adventurebrozz
@adventurebrozz 4 жыл бұрын
Super weird but I just finished freshman year too, so congrats considering our first year wasn’t what we thought it would be lol hope you’re playing ESO and seeing all this land brought to life!! If you play on Xbox we should play sometime!!! Congrats on the freshman year wrap up!!
@supergenius6256
@supergenius6256 2 жыл бұрын
13:00 : Get out of my head, get out of my head.
@Marias.Icerunner
@Marias.Icerunner Ай бұрын
I hope if Blackmarsh gets a game similar to Skyrim. I hope they can make more races from Lizard folk (Argonians), Frog people, Snake people and other stuff that could live in a swamp region. It would be cool to see new and more races.
@DarthSanguine
@DarthSanguine 4 жыл бұрын
For High Rock, it's not even unified in canon, nor has it ever been. For Hammerfell, remember that the Redguards were originally invaders from another continent. That's why it's unified - it was colonised by survivors from the same Yokudan nation, who wiped out the native inhabitants. Vvardenfell looks inaccurate on that map because it's based on the map from Arena.
@death3927
@death3927 2 жыл бұрын
13:08 I can’t escape this torture
@augustusaurelius2628
@augustusaurelius2628 2 жыл бұрын
i for one, welcome our new redguard overlords.
@giulianoilfilosofo7927
@giulianoilfilosofo7927 3 жыл бұрын
High Rock reminds me more of medieval/Renaissance Italy with Its peninsular, highly mountainous outlook and geopolitical fragmentation based on wealthy petty Kingdoms and city states and placed under the formal authority of an empire located at the centre of the continent. Still Cyrodiil makes me think to ancient Rome rather than the HRE, but still, it shows how endearing TES lore can be also when comoared with our world.
@rundown_2043
@rundown_2043 4 жыл бұрын
hey you're finally awake
@alexanderbassett-chan4307
@alexanderbassett-chan4307 10 күн бұрын
honestly I'm waiting so badly for a full Tamriel elder scrolls
@MrMarinus18
@MrMarinus18 3 жыл бұрын
20:30 Not exactly. The everglades stretch for several hundred miles inland. The reason it goes so far is because it's fed by lots of water from mountains.
@kingofdragonsgameplay1369
@kingofdragonsgameplay1369 3 жыл бұрын
Could an Orsimer kingdom form in the North-East of Hammerfell, in the area around Craglorn? If it’s more or less geographically and culturally isolated from the surrounding areas, then perhaps it would be easy for a huge Orcish horde to seize and settle those lands, or am I wrong?
@happychest239
@happychest239 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, but the Craglorn region (around Dragonstar which is considered a part of the western reach) has a large Reachmen population, and I don't think they would allow the Orcs to establish themselves there without a fight.
@kingofdragonsgameplay1369
@kingofdragonsgameplay1369 2 жыл бұрын
@@happychest239 well, a fight is expected anywhere the Orsimer attempt to settle. However the Reachmen, if they are anything like the forsworn, might be just the right enemy, being disorganised and relying primarily on guerrilla tactics.
@happychest239
@happychest239 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingofdragonsgameplay1369 ​ @KingOfDragons Gameplay I wouldn't underestimate them, for centuries they resisted the Nordic attempts to pacify them and the Breton Kingdoms of Evermore, Wayrest, and Daggerfall. It was only when Talos conquered the Reach near the end of the second era that they were mostly pacified and firmly under Imperial rule. However, Hammerfell is not under imperial rule, and it's still recovering from it's war with the Aldmeri dominion, I am willing to bet the Reachmen in Dragonstar would be a lot more formidable and organized than their brethren across the border with High Rock and Skyrim.
@Nuka0420
@Nuka0420 3 жыл бұрын
Ed never lets down when it comes to making you laugh
@ImperialKnowledge
@ImperialKnowledge 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, very nice video
@j.alexander7554
@j.alexander7554 3 жыл бұрын
12:57 GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD GET OUT OF MY HEAD
@jackson5511
@jackson5511 4 жыл бұрын
What about dragon age, Thedas :D
@Usagi33353
@Usagi33353 4 жыл бұрын
Bethesda watching this video: Write that down! Write that down!
@hash-slingingslasher1374
@hash-slingingslasher1374 4 жыл бұрын
This should have been a collaboration with Caspian Report.
@jesterssketchbook
@jesterssketchbook 4 жыл бұрын
Always keep the power at the TIP of your High Rock, boys
@elvastan
@elvastan 4 жыл бұрын
+1 for Daggerfall music
@incoher
@incoher 4 жыл бұрын
What is that program at 3:47?
@Stoneworks
@Stoneworks 4 жыл бұрын
ah that’s another video someone made- History of Tamriel, every decade
@royalswordsman4523
@royalswordsman4523 4 жыл бұрын
I'd almost like if they made the borders like u made them to keep a little bit of realism... also liked the fact u got hyped for Es6, u got a subb
@tylerfletcher1982
@tylerfletcher1982 Жыл бұрын
The Niben was large enough to have a good sized fleet Battle if I remember correctly
@cliffwoodbury5319
@cliffwoodbury5319 2 жыл бұрын
so are you going to do a video for Akavir?
@shawnberry760
@shawnberry760 4 жыл бұрын
Forgive my ignorance, I just found your videos. Do you have any Bretons and Breton lore videos?
@arnabsarkar4735
@arnabsarkar4735 4 жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion, you could have used the maps from Elder Scrolls online as well screenshots of the areas themselves for much more granular detail as ESO has covered a large portion of the areas that you mentioned.
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