Expecting to win by slowly getting the enemy team's hp pools working against their heals doesnt cut it when it comes to winning games. Devastating torps and broadsides win games as you have to work against your owns teams incompetence and early deaths. The slower you kill targets the faster you lose the game

@@Brettcroese Yea depends on the game. Sometimes the games are slow and thats when ships like conq and devastation shine in my opinion.

@@Brettcroesethat’s true, but ap and torp damage isn’t as reliable as he damage, it depends on the skill of the Player you’re shooting. If it’s a very good player, they’ll almost always find a way to dodge torps and angle against ap, but a goos player still won’t be able to dodge he and fires (except in a dd). But I do agree with you tho, overall most players will just show you broadside or sail into torps, and ap is also useful (unfortunately) to create crossfires with cvs and subs

Exactly. And if it's one thing a burning bb with dcp on cooldown won't do is to push an invisible torp spewing ship in cap. Long range firespam is actually extremely important since it can slow down or completely halt an enemy advance.

@@Gundolf300 yup. And let’s not forget the pure psychological damage done when the ennemy sees his ship being hammered by countless shells, his health ticking down before his eyes and the pure helpness from not being able to angle against it

Overpens we're light damage in the past, but not anymore

@@arczer2519 Yep, overpens are treated the same as normal penetration damage IIRC.

Terrifying thought

battle expert in aslain, choose v2

You sure? Usually, all bbs can only heal 50% AP pen damage, us bbs and rn bc 60%, and the rn bbs 75%

@@moritzpopp1326 yes, HE and AP penetration (also torps not hitting your mid ship section) are treated the same when it comes to heal

@@moritzpopp1326 ap pen and he pen is the same. Citadel hits and torpedo hits to citadel is one kind of dmg, full pens and torps to bow/ stern is 2nd, with floods and fires being 3rd

i don't know if you want to, but with the training room, you can play around in there doing what you just said and have a look for yourself.

More fires

He has made countless remarks in the past how HE is broken on ships like thunderer and Vincent. Why would he not be explicit here?

HE is highly valuable for winning map control. It's not the quickest way to sink a ship, and fires damage is 100% healable.....but against a major HE threat (like a Devastation), no battleship in the game can sit and tank it. The mere presence of the Devastation denies other BBs the possibility of pushing, because if they overextend and can't disengage, they will eventually go down. So even if you don't get the kill and the enemy can retreat and heal back up......if your positioning and focus fire is good, it can still win games. You are denying the enemy BBs from being able to influence the course of the battle, and once they disengage you are still on the frontlines with (at least until Maine releases) the highest AP alpha in the game, and are continuing to make an impact on the battle while the enemy BBs are staying dark to heal up and recover their DCP. I think the stigma behind HE being low impact comes from bad players who sit too far back, don't focus targets, and can't hit their shots consistently....and thus rack up tons of useless damage without ever being able to win map control or capitalize on it.

I did that with lousiana and with fullbow my seco put 4 x 2 127 it was fun!!

Its really situational since the Mentioned Schlieffen has 10 turrets on each side with the ability to pen 32mm, having a faster reload, more range and beeing more accurate + the shells beeing faster. You do get a slighty higher firechance tho so it performs quite well on longrange Sec brawling when all those shells hit the centre super structure, pen it and cause fires

@@nicz7694 but the main guns of lousiana are better. I can even make schi on fire fast shooting accurate he on schifflen.. to tell you the truth i shitted 2 vs me puting seco on me . I pop the plane and shit 16k o first secoschi and make him of fire. The he damagecon

@@nicz7694 later i used main guns with he 2 x permafire x 40 sec and later the other schi seco me too

@@nicz7694 The Schlieffen has to be totally broadside no angling to use all the guns and the louisiana can have a relatively comfortable slight angle.

The Conqueror can have a ton of game impact if you play it right. It has great concealment and handling coupled with a super heal. It has a heavy AP salvo weight (Devastation currently has the highest AP alpha in the game) with short fuse AP. Throw in the HE, and the Conqueror has plenty of carry power. With proper focus fire its HE can drive off enemy BBs and/or stop pushes, allowing the Conqueror to win map control, and its AP is more than capable of punishing broadside targets and deleting cruisers. If you just camp at the back of the map and spread fires around to farm the most potential damage, the Conqueror has low impact, but if you actually take full advantage of *all* of her tools, then it's an entirely different story.