We are tribal creatures, this makes sense why we form teams. We just aren't very good at competition with one another. We do better cooperating. This is why capitalism always ends in a monopoly. How big is Amazon now?

"divide and conquer". If people fight each another, it is easier to rule them.

This is why fascism is winning. Keep people divided and ignorant and feelings become facts.

I like his talks, but about nutrition topic, he absolutely not the right guy

Before he got famous, he was great. Then he joined the Daily Wire and seems like he feels the need to make everything he says sound deep and profound. He's mostly lost me now.

​@@ginaherold damn

Well said

​@@ginaherold LMAO this has to be a bot right

I dislike petersons views as well but saying he's wrong because of expert analysis is fallacious. Most philosophical views are abstract and especially the metaphysical ones. Philosophy is not a hard science, as you know.

Which should logically make you doubt his thought process on every plane of reality and in turn your own criteria given that you agree with someone whose way of thinking is fundamentally biased and flawed.

@@leylol6655 Actually that is a logical fallacy. Just because you believe someone is wrong on a specific topic that does not by default make then less credible on another topic.

@@Ryan_DeWitt not necessarily. If he gets on a platform and records a statement like this that is a blatantly incorrect correlation. Its not unreasonable to question other things that may come out his mouth. Does that mean assume everything he says is incorrect? No, but it's not unreasonable to question his reliability on other topics if he is willing to get on and make a video like this regarding things he seems to know little about. Clearly the man is fallible.

@@starlitshadows That's fair but, otoh, you should question everything everyone says, because, guess what, everyone is fallible. And sure Peterson is displaying a lot of unwarranted confidence here but it's obvious that he is biased by his and his family's rather extreme struggles with autoimmune issues, so I think it's pretty fair to compartmentalize the way he addresses this subject from his other work. Peterson's critics seem very concerned that his fans are some kind of cult waiting on his every word so they know what to think (and of course he's at any moment about to order them into their brown shirts). My experience and observation is quite the opposite, they take a high view of his insights and use them as a jumping off point for dynamic discussion, and are perfectly willing to disagree.

Don't worry, there are a lot of other reasons to think JP is full of shit

Greg Doucette !!!!!!

That’s because KZfaq has a significant ad revenue bump once videos hit 10mins

@@chriskrause6280 I thought that was a legacy thing that stopped a while back? Regardless, quick hitting info is good.

Yep you can tell a video is going to be bullshit when they starting beating around the bush and getting repetitive early on

I think it's one of many reasons I lost interest in Thomas Delaurer's visits. But, then, when Layne posts something more longform, I'm more readily receptive to watching it.

That’s because they’re two unrelated events. If anything, they’re “related” the other way, the food guide pyramid came out to tell people how to eat healthier because they were getting fat. And then people didn’t follow it and continued getting fat.

underrated comment

I have this same thought! I am a physical therapist. So when I realize how much of my own field is full of shit, i can only imagine that is EVERY field. But i an more skeptical within my own field and more trusting of others, when it should be the opposite

Yup. Peterson lives at the top of Mt. Perceived Intelligence.

I have to admit I tuned out of what he was saying during the PacMan part....I was more concerned the ghosts were going to get him.

Same for me as far as personal responsiblity and growth goes. But the main area where I see JBP stray too much is exactly on nutrition which he's not adept in (odd really because he's previously repeatedly admitted on Rogan to NOT being an expert on nutrition and he just follows what works with his allergies). His other tangents on stuff like environment seem spot on IMO, in the sense that to me he appears pragmatic and has actual experts on.

@@Badabinger I see this as people problem. He is smart guy (and I love him for his work) BUT, shit tone of "followers" want to know everything about their influencer. How much he sleep, what shoes size he wear, how he wipe his butt etc. I don't know why that happend, they won't become him or any more like him if they do shit exacly like him (espesialy when they admire his intelignece and wear his shoe size while having bigger foot). So... he have health troubles, he get rid of them, by his diet and I get it is nice to talk about it (i had similar problem, but my solution was to heal myself), but people keep asking and asking, then they do what he done and say it makes miracles. He talk more and more about and bam said something stupid. He shouldn't do this but it is hard when people ask you about live advices from psychology POV, but then demanding to help with their miserable live at any point. He push people in good direction, from then they should man up and take their live - and his principles - and be man, but they behave like children, not knowing what to eat... Rare little l for my man JBP. Everybody have to have one from time to time so they can get sober.

I completely agree

how old are you

I must remind you, all of his talk about politics, communism, capitalism and economics are completely outside of his field. He is right about some things here and there, but there is a ton of bs as well.

Jordan Peterson is also a prime example of somebody stupid swallowing a thesaurus and using it to not sound dumb 😅

@@A_Turner copium

If you put grains, like bread, pasta and cereal as the base of the food pyramid.. then that is what people mostly are going to eat. Inevitably, that is going to make a whole lot of people fat, which is exactly what did happen. You don't even need to be a nutritonist to understand that. What is this guy's issue.

as a man growing up in the 90s in a third world country, that pyramid was everywhere in schools and houses, diet plans were based on that pyramid including the food they served us as kids on school or the recommendation they gave to our parents based on it. there is clearly a discrepancy here, that pyramid was everywhere and was the argument of my parents and several others and teachers for our food choices and food "health" beliefs. (like literally thinking that not eating enough grains and bread made us sick). jordan its far more connected to my reality here.

I'm not sure how it is in the US, or how it was before, but I can tell you as a graduate in dietetics that nutritional education isn't "based" off the food pyramid... It's a tool to characterize healthy eating to a wide population (although in sweden we've switched to a circular model). It's a tool and by no means necessarily relevant to everyone. We also have a different illustrative tool called the plate model, kind of representing the same things (although vegetables take the majority spot instead of grains). And when it comes to grains, there's heavy emphasis on whole grains in any intake model which of course contain more fiber and are more satiating and often more nutritious. Now american companies may have used a sleight of hand to turn their processed fiber-free and vitamin enriched products into the recommended grains category. But speak with any dietician/nutritionist worth their salt and they'll tell you that you have to limit your processed grains in favor of the unprocessed ones/fiber enriched ones (which isn't perfect either but a big step in the right direction) (sugar sweetened cereals also fall under the processed category, which is most cereals that people buy because they taste good.) So once again, JP picks a scapegoat and puts heavy blame on it without understanding/considering that it's way more complex than that. The food pyramid wasn't followed as intended (maybe with a combination of seriously poor implementation of it into the public), and the fact remains that most people simply ignore national nutritional guidance which most countries release regularly and which is always heavily evidence based. So I wouldn't even say it's a different perspective. He's a little right in essence, but mostly wrong in his conclusions.

The food pyramid appeared in the seventies got WHO acceptance in the nineties. So what is that "it was literally created to get the US agricultural industry out of a deep financial hole after WWII" The model is ok for me, if you don't like it just use your superior model, but don't play the "they made me eat 60 pounds of added sugar each year" victim

Bart Kay is a joke! 🤡

That is not true at all

Since he has such a restrictive diet he's not consuming something that was giving him issues. Eating all meat wasnt the cure. The cure was removing whatever it was that gave him issues. He could still eat a balanced diet and not have issues anymore. This is the thing a lot of people do when they go on a fad diet. They cut out processed junk, eat less, lose weight get in better shape and they say that specific diet was the answer. But people get the same results on all different diets. A carnivore will look and feel better and they'll blame their previous state on vegetables & fruit. A vegetarian will look and feel better and blame their previous state on meat. But the one thing they have in common is they cut out ultra processed junk and consumed less food overall. Jordan Peterson should just figure what foods were disagreeing with him and avoid those and he could go back to a more balanced diet and maybe he wouldn't be so miserable.

@@johnnyrotten1666 This is not entirely true, if anything processed food causes very little issues except in the long term like diabetes and heart disease because the food is refined, which means a lot of components that can cause issues are gone. Just as an example I can't eat whole wheat but I can eat all the white bread and pasta I want with no problems.

​@@johnnyrotten1666i just have to say i dont like this guy jordan,lets just see how long the guy lives and if he has any health problems.the proof will be in the puddingas they say.

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Him lecturing on morality when he was a drug addict the whole time is worse.

Yes, he was severerly depressed and his family run with autoinmune issues. so that somehow its his fault? Blaming jordan peterson for his propensity to illness be mental or physical DUE to its family history its beyond R... if jordan peterson should stay out of nutrition, you should stay out of the internet before making such a brain dead comparision.

@@JWB671 eh, we enter a grey area when we’re talking about PHYSICALLY addictive meds prescribed by a doctor. Benzodiazepines can give you life threatening seizures and permanent brain damage if you suddenly stop taking them, independent of whether or not the user is “enjoying” them or psychologically addicted. I wouldn’t call following the instructions of your GP and inherently immoral

​@JWB671 This and the OP comment are garbage takes. I don't like JP but he was in the hospital because of bad pharmaceuticals that almost killed him. Also claiming someone is bad because they are on opiods is unfair too because they are highly addictive and hundreds of millions of people are in their trap. This is called the fallacy of hypocrisy

@@JWB671 Ridiculous, he was taking benzodiazepines as prescribed by a doctor while he wife was dying from cancer. You're a heartless bastard if you think this was a moral failing of his.

Similarly ignore the blue zones and choose the Inuit as a model for a healthy lifestyle.

Unfortunately the govt,big pharma and big food are all in cohoots!!

lmao like what. what is this FUD. hes a certified clinical psychologist and a very sharp mind at that - hes extremely capable in his domain. please show examples where he was “wrong” inside his domain.

Well said

Such as??

@@pattybaselines The laughable assertion that human beings “divulged” from lobsters springs to mind, but probably any of them

This.... All day This.... I don't know how layne can be so scpetically/empirically minded and hold any respect for peterson.

@@pattybaselines the idea that the common use of intwined snakes throughout multiple cultures leads to the conclusion those cultures knew about the double helix DNA structure before modern scientists..... just as a quick one....

Cherry picking. Sherry is a kind of alcohol, but I get english is not your first language. That said, how was he wrong on covid? Hows the vaccines and masking working out? Pretty shit if you look at Israel and New Zealand, which were among the biggest proponents of both.

@@PFirefly06 As I wrote, sorry in advance for my bad English, German is my mother tongue. I know what a sherry is (although only my grandma drinks it). And that obvious mistake was due to auto correct too, didn't see it soon enough. 🙂 And no, no virus discussion here, sorry. 😉 I am no expert on that topic, so I can only listen to what the majority of the international scientists tend to. But Peterson is definitely not one of them, no matter where you stand.

Addendum: That Peterson brought our old 1930 Nazi Germany conspiracy theory of "cultural marxism" (formerly known as "Kultur Bolschewismus") almost 1:1 (intellectuals, leftist, feminists, pacifists etc. are responsible for all the bad in the world and the assumed degradation of western civilization and manliness) with only minimal modernized tweaks (these all mighty but at the same time weak leftists aren't only jewish anymore like in the original theory) into the U.S. mainstream discourse still wants to make my head explode. Almost couldn't believe it. Crazy times. 🙈

@@Anure99 He's definitely not a health expert, I agree. But you don't need to be a mathematician to state 2+2=4. I listened to the same experts you did. The difference is, I don't accept things at face value regardless of who says them. All the experts said a vaccine takes years, but pushed one out anyways. They said it would stop the virus, and it turns out it doesn't, it doesn't even do anything at all unless you're constantly boosted, and people still catch it. We aren't even discussing masks, but my point is that everything the experts have said has been proven wrong over and over, so they keep having to change what they say, or pretend they didn't say something when they're on camera saying it. You, me, him, anyone, can look at what I just pointed out. Any lay person can saysthat not only was the worldwide response wrong on covid, but that much of it was avoidable if we allowed reasonable questioning of methods and products that did not have any supporting data when they were released, and disproven altogether as time went on.

@@Anure99 what was his "bullsh*t" on "cov*d, climate change" exactly? At the very least he couldn't be more wrong than the nonsense the government is currently pushing.

That, and more and more polarization and going to extremes. Balance, nuance, holistic logic, etc seems to be going right out the window.

You dont really follow this "peterson guy", yet you seem quite concerned with people taking him seriously. A detractor who's attempting to come off as less informed and intersted on the subject than he is. A clear attempt at decieving. You're full of shit.

I’ve stayed away from gluten for over 10 years due to inflammation and recently bought flour from France to make bread, no issues! Also tried pasta that was a “product of Italy”, no issues! So yes our food is definitely to blame in how it is processed and manufactured. Our wheat goes through radiation, I can’t imagine that helps the nutritional value!

I agree; I’m also lactose intolerant and was able to have lots of dairy with no issues. Weirdly enough, I’m also very sensitive to coffee and even having decaf coffee makes me feel jittery, but I was able to have cups of espresso and didn’t feel jittery once! From my experience I concluded there’s something really weird and off with North American products, but of course, just my experience.

Agreed. The first time I've seen something with Jordan Peterson in it was his interview with Roger Penrose. It was so obvious that he has no idea what he was talking about. It was entertaining/funny and frustrating at the same time. Jordan Peterson is the personification of pseudo-intellectualism so far for me. I've never seen something like that to this degree before.

@@tofu-munchingCoalition.ofChaos pseudo-intellectualism.. that’s the best way to describe it. He’s gotten much worse over the years imo as well.

Same. Was a fan early on when it was mostly posts of his university lectures. Haven't watched him in years intentionally as even clicking one of his videos will turn your KZfaq feed into a toxic, virulent mess.

There is a reason for it

Can you give some examples? Thanks! I want to educate myself.

That looks like some extreme liberal approach. I also disagree with paterson (especially regarding religion bs), but to say that "in other areas is equally worthless" is an astounding assumption.

Is there cause and effect there? Maybe the government got involved because people were getting fatter. People were also leaner before the any modern diet was published, did all these diets cause obesity?

@@dankid1742 No, the government got involved because the president AKA one of the elites died from a heart attack for the first time, which they had never experienced before, so they wanted to know what caused it. If an average joe died from a heart attack at that time they would not care.

people were mal nurished which is why the government wanted cheap palatable food

Damn you show him