The Gray Ghost | YF-23A Black Widow II VS F-14B Tomcat | DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator

The Gray Ghost | YF-23A Black Widow II VS F-14B Tomcat | DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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@GrowlingSidewinder 5 ай бұрын

Check out the Merch Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Merry Christmas to everyone celebrating in the coming days, and wishing you all a happy new year as well. Thank you guys for watching and if you have any ideas for future videos please put them in the comment section below and they might just end up in the pipeline, thanks again, much Love.

@daviddoyle982 5 ай бұрын

@GrowlingSidewinder I was going to suggest the Hornet 🐝 against the YF-23! High AOA fight will be interesting!

@JW-fm2cy 5 ай бұрын

You should fly the black widow

@jessmith7324 5 ай бұрын

I have since Macross plus used the design for one of their mecha

@jessmith7324 5 ай бұрын

I have since Macross plus used the design for one of their mecha

@jessmith7324 5 ай бұрын

I have since Macross plus used the design for one of their mecha

@Nick-rb1vk 5 ай бұрын

I think we have a YF-23 obsession

@Starman1776 5 ай бұрын

@Flygupp15 5 ай бұрын

I’ve had one since I was 10 and first learned of the plane.

@richieismyhero 5 ай бұрын

It is an awesome plane

@timbaskett6299 5 ай бұрын

I was always a fan, and was rooting for it during the ATF competition. 😂😂

@slate4687 5 ай бұрын

I deffo have a YF-23 obsession!

@Alex-nr5et 5 ай бұрын

The YF-23 still looks futuristic in 2023.

@mcbgaming95 5 ай бұрын

Alien jet

@carlosandleon 5 ай бұрын

looks like a 90s failure

@warbuzzard7167 4 ай бұрын

Failure my shoe.

@petertucker524 2 ай бұрын

To this date it clearly looks hotter than any other fighter plane in existence🕷🕸❤😎🧐🖤💥

@BrianTRice77 5 ай бұрын

I love how the YF-23 maxes out T/W ratio, wing loading, AND has a diamond shaped wing for stealth and no wing sweep so that it handles high AoA. And then the massive all moving stabilators. It’s a wild design for 30 years ago.

@BrianTRice77 5 ай бұрын

And of course it ruins your ability to pull the trigger against it. 😂

@slate4687 5 ай бұрын

@@BrianTRice77 true you just don t want to shoot it down even if you have the opportunity

@kaydenchan7093 5 ай бұрын

The aircraft itself looks so cursed 💀

@adriakimbellebabe3473 5 ай бұрын

The f 23 looks like a guy in a wing suit

@benn454 5 ай бұрын

@macross25 5 ай бұрын

How long before we see GS actually piloting a YF-23? I think I speak for many that we are loving these videos with the Black Widow!!

@GrowlingSidewinder 5 ай бұрын

lol the mod needs to mature a little more before I do that.

@Wolek96 5 ай бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinderwhy so? Toxic was flying it now.

@Clint8862 5 ай бұрын

@Wolek96 I'm going to presume, that it doesn't yet have a properly/fully modelled cockpit. Doesn't look great on video 😂

@macross25 5 ай бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder I'm incredibly patient, until then I'll be enjoying these videos. 😎👍

@timbaskett6299 5 ай бұрын

Really can't wait to see that!!

@basicforge 5 ай бұрын

They should call it the F-23 Medusa. You stare at it and are turned to stone and die.

@phillipscott9736 5 ай бұрын

That was the first thing that popped into my mind when he said mesmerizing. Lol

@F23GreyGhost 5 ай бұрын

That'd actually be a cool name

@texas8322 5 ай бұрын

The pilot seemed to fly the YF23 like a kite. Where he didn't really do a lot of fancy maneuvering to get at your 6, just seemed to float and then drop back behind you. His or her flying was just gorgeous.

@xNightOwlzZz 5 ай бұрын

That last kill through the clouds was unbelievably cinematic, especially since its callsign is Grey Ghost

@mbg4681 5 ай бұрын

That swoop past the Tomcat's wreckage at 13:18 was just _chef's kiss._

@maamold 5 ай бұрын

That final shot of the gunfire out of the clouds and the F-23 immediately becoming visible as the F-14 goes down is awesome.

@dystopianlucidity4448 5 ай бұрын

My man, dropping even on Christmas Eve! Much love and respect!

@Viper-One 5 ай бұрын

The YF-23 truly is a stunning airplane. We have the second YF-23 ever made, on display here in Torrance, California, at our airfield museum. First time seeing it in person just makes your jaw drop.

@aztec0112 5 ай бұрын

When I saw her in the NMUSAF backlot...and when no one was looking...I touched her portside exhaust ramp. 😮

@Durzo1259 5 ай бұрын

Now it's serving as the basis for their upcoming 6th gen fighter program for the 2030s, so in the end we'll get it, only a newer, snazzier version.

@TheArchitect216 5 ай бұрын

@@Durzo1259where did you get info that the next generation jet is based off it?

@TurboHappyCar 5 ай бұрын

I've been meaning to go visit "Spider" in Torrance. Like @aztec0112 I saw "Gray Ghost" at the NMUSAF, but I won't admit to any lewd behavior. 😂

@Viper-One 5 ай бұрын

@TurboHappyCar visit it man, it's awesome. They even have an F-14 TomCat on display too.

@jadmillete4247 5 ай бұрын

If I remember correctly the test pilot for the ATF program said that the 23 is only a few degrees less in maneuverability compared to the 22. Also the control surfaces and flight computer of this aircraft is very reactive. Theres a footage of it acting like a baby bird in its first taxi to the runway with the Control surfaces twitching in response to the Minute deformities on the runway correcting the airframe when its not even airborne yet.

@BunnyUK 5 ай бұрын

Yes, he said the 23 was as “agile and manoeuvrable as a cat”

@jadmillete4247 5 ай бұрын

@@teeanahera8949 true. The additional weight the munitions give is quite significant.

@andreabindolini7452 5 ай бұрын

@@teeanahera8949no reason to suppose that the production F-23A wouldn't have been as maneuverable as the prototype (or even more so).

@jonathanpfeffer3716 5 ай бұрын

@@andreabindolini7452 There were two big control surface shaped reasons why one might believe so.

@manofchaitea6904 5 ай бұрын

@@jadmillete4247 The same for the F22, it wouldnt change.

@robbabcock_ 5 ай бұрын

The spooky thing is that the Ghost wasn't even allowed to use its true strengths! In a knife fight against a classic gunfighter it's still utterly lethal, flying with one wing behind its back.

@nyafu_uwu 5 ай бұрын

british fighter be like

@dan725 5 ай бұрын

Those ruddervators are HUGE, VERY powerful, and deflects a lot of air in a hurry; hence the 23 wasn’t a slouch in terms of maneuverability.

@dandychiggins8329 5 ай бұрын

A lot of people involved with the ATF program felt the YF-23 was the better aircraft and that the YF-22 was picked to punish Northrop over the B2 cost. They also said the YF-23 was almost as maneuverable as the YF-22 because of those huge angled stabilizers it had!

@77Avadon77 5 ай бұрын

Yes I recall hearing that exact same thing

@Durzo1259 5 ай бұрын

It does seem strange that stealth and range were stated to be the higher priority, but the F-22 wins with less of both and higher maneuverability. However, in terms of just the most beautiful aircraft engineering, I really do love the F-22 most... in a pure vanity kind of way.

@dannyb7371 5 ай бұрын

Yeh I heard it was purely a political decision too, not surprising when the two are so closely matched. I also remember hearing a rumour that the 23 may have been sold to the 'private' sector, so maybe there's some flying around somewhere all hush hush like.

@manofchaitea6904 5 ай бұрын

@@dannyb7371 Lockheed Martin have been in the pockets of military brass for a long time.

@BullsMahunny 5 ай бұрын

The day the US finds out that an Aircraft like the YF-23 is in someone elses hands and they confirm it is the day that heads will roll and people will shit their pants. The stealth tech used in that thing is a state secret so unless they got stealth composites from somewhere else a lot of people are gonna have a lot of questions. That would mean the US is 1, no longer the sole possessor of a true 5th Gen aircraft, but they also will no longer have air dominance.@@dannyb7371

@leenation380 5 ай бұрын

Yay im so happy your finally doing YF-23 "Grey Ghost" videos, thank you.

@DBravo29er 5 ай бұрын

The YF-23's all-moving tail planes are either equal to, or slightly larger than, *the entire wing surface area of the A4 Skyhawk*. In the Peninnsular Seniors designer talk (video), this means that the tail planes of the YF-23 have something like 2.5x-3x the surface area of the F-22's horizontal stabilators (with the F-22/s rudders only having a rear fin move, not the entire surface). The YF-23 fuselage also generates considerably more lift than the F-22's. So, I am not certain that the F-22 is "more maneuverable" in any categorical sense, other than in a very specific (and narrow) set of flight regimes. Pessimistically, the YF-23 is going to have nose authority that exceeds both the F-35 (all variants) and the Rhino by a healthy margin. Also, exceeding the new F-15EX. I am not convinced that this ability is reflected in the current DCS flight model (potent though it certainly is).

@theorangeninja6486 5 ай бұрын

Reports regarding the two ATF competitors say that the Black widow was indeed less maneuverable than the Raptor, but 'only slightly less'. That is an insanely impressive feat when your competitor is the F22 and you're beating it out in stealth

@theskyrack6433 5 ай бұрын

Considering the main reason the air force chose the f22 over the yf23 is because of maneuverability id say its more then a little. I think the raptor can win the one and two circle consistently and im sure they tested it extensively. But thats just hypothetical from me nobody actually knows. All we know is the f22 won because of agility

@sigmundwong2489 5 ай бұрын

@@theskyrack6433 was that the main reason? Story I heard was that they wanted to keep LH afloat, and they were skeptical Northrop could set up the production line as effectively as LH. It's not obvious that maneuverability was the deciding factor (from what I've seen/read).

@DBravo29er 5 ай бұрын

@@theskyrack6433 Watch that video I linked to of the chief YF-23 test pilot, who also flew the first production F-22. He does not agree with you. But, what does he know? 😂💩

@wilemelliott 5 ай бұрын

@@theskyrack6433 IIRC, the 22 did a manuver demo to show off when it wasn't called for and the 23 just did the requested testing and didn't "show off". Not that it couldn't its that they didn't. And as we all know, perception beats out facts, so the decision makers perceived more manuverability when they honestly didn't get an apples to apples show.

@SmilingCamperVan-dd8cb 5 ай бұрын

The YF-23 was very impressive in 1990. It is still very impressive today. It truly is a work of art. Having said that, I was rooting for the Tomcat the entire time! Another great fight. Thanks

@rodneylove8027 5 ай бұрын

That aerial death dance was beautiful. I always favored the YF-23 over the Raptor and was dismayed when it wasn’t selected. The Raptor is king of the skies but there is somethimg about the Black Widow and the Commanche that makes me wish they made it to production. Commanche mod??

@Shadowboost 5 ай бұрын

I have a hardon for the YF-23, the F-16XL, and the Commanche. Wish they all were made

@DDayJayke 5 ай бұрын

I have a YF-23 addiction. And you are enabling me to indulge in it GS.

@user-mm1nt1it5v 5 ай бұрын

I read an interview with someone who worked on the program that with the all moving tail surfaces it made the yf23 nearly as maneuverable as the yf22.

@GrowlingSidewinder 5 ай бұрын

Ya I read it was very very close but just quite. Very impressive though

@Trades46 5 ай бұрын

I'm almost convinced now the F23 didn't happen because the Air Force wanted to give the tender to Lockheed Martin whereas Northrop Grumman was already signed on with existing projects...

@recoilrob324 5 ай бұрын

While the YF-23 DOES look great...the testing showed promise but a LOT of issues that would have needed to be sorted out before it could be put into production. Have read that the inlet ducting would have needed a complete overhaul, the canopies cracked at speed and the weapons bay was not fitted for weapons and had serious issues that also would have likely needed extensive modifications. The YF-22 had a functional weapons bay that had actually successfully fired a missile, and much more conventional construction which didn't need major redesign for production. We always seem to have a fascination with the 'loser' and....considering the lack of trust the government instills in us with their shenanigans....attribute the choice to corruption rather than sound decision making. But please believe that the better aircraft WAS chosen...as well as the better engine and both have served well for 30 years now. That alone should prove the wisdom of the choices made back then.

@andrewcharlton4053 5 ай бұрын

@@recoilrob324the loser always has what if to its benefit. It also doesn't get 'normalised', it's always going to be an object of curiosity.

@khoatran-sv7je 5 ай бұрын

What I find interesting is although the YF23 was bigger, those twin YF120 engines gave the YF23 a reported thrust to weight of 1.36! Those twin V-tails were especially powerful in high AOA too, also gave the F23 the same trimmed aoa of 60 degrees lile the F22 (bear in mind this is not confirmed info). Absolutely amazing what kind of technology US had in the 1990's, imagine what's being developed behind doors now.

@_cyantist 5 ай бұрын

i mean it was confirmed by the test pilot paul metz himself, but ill let you decide if hes a trustworthy source 😂

@khoatran-sv7je 5 ай бұрын

@_cyantist I guess if it's the pilot, it would be considered a trustworthy source? But remember, ATF is a top-secret program so I wouldn't trust it since a government wouldn't just let a pilot know every detail of a plane. But think about it, a thrust to weight of 1.36? That's pretty bloody nuts.

@warbuzzard7167 4 ай бұрын

Knowing the present day military, it's probably technology that can correctly determine your desired pronouns beyond visual range.

@PeteyTomcat 5 ай бұрын

When are you gonna fly the YF-23? It's my favorite aircraft.

@Damen178 5 ай бұрын

I seriously want to know where I can download this YF-23. Honestly, it makes me think the designer looked at the Tomcat and said "What if it went into space?" Those wide set engines really make me think of the Tomcat without the swing-wings. Love this match up between my two favorite planes.

@TheBongReyes 5 ай бұрын

Agreed. A strike package that consists of B-2, B-21, F-35, F-22 & YF-23 would have been unstoppable.

@joeclaridy 5 ай бұрын

That's when you just leave your resignation on your desk and go home. They'll get it......probably.

@P_Mann 5 ай бұрын

One of the biggest strengths of the Widow is that, to my understanding, it was intended to be upgradable and to integrate into the AC fleet in a way the Raptor was never envisioned to be. Imagine a flight of Widows being completely integrated and networked with a flight of Lightnings…

@michaelknightmustdie 5 ай бұрын

To be fair (and I hate to because I think the 23 was the better choice), the 22 is integrated in ways that change the battlefield just as much as stealth. Sensor integration is insane, and the 35 is even better.

@nooneyouknowhere6148 5 ай бұрын

To my understanding the airforce has never picked the best of the otions on new aircraft designs with the exception of the f-15. Their criteria must be more of the pay off to performance ratio. Some contractors just pay the brass more than others.

@matsv201 5 ай бұрын

It's interesting considering that when F14 was new in the 70s it was just leapes.and bounds over anything else, and then 20 years later the YF23 ist just toying with it not even in its own domain. It's like a wwii fighter is doing a 200km/h fight with a wwi fighter.

@OddBall1958 5 ай бұрын

After seeing how things went with you in your Raptor this is going to be a piece of cake for the Widow. Let's watch and see!

@paulgibbs6831 5 ай бұрын

Getting a GS vid on Christmas eve is a proper early present. Thank you for your dedication.

@yawningkitty457 5 ай бұрын

It's worth remembering that in the test, the YF-23 was said to be 'only slightly less' manuverable than the YF-22. Did Toxic use differential thrust when flying the Black Widow?

@Davinator2662 5 ай бұрын

Probably never needed it, also wouldn't be as beneficial because the engines are close together unlike f-14

@abot4694 5 ай бұрын

Around the 5:15 mark that looks like the aircrafts are dancing, doing the tango or something 😂. Awesome episode as always GS, I also think the YF-23A is one of the most beautiful aircraft ever to be built. Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays GS and the GS Family! 🎄

@MrNukes 5 ай бұрын

I'd love to see some ground attack/strike missions done with the F-14 similar to what you have done for F-16 and F-18 missions.

@benrichey2593 5 ай бұрын

Bombcat would be a great video, I think he’s done something like that a while ago but I’d have to look back to see when.

@smacko4192 5 ай бұрын

Credit to you as well G.S for getting someone like toxic in the yf23. He is definitely one of the better pilots to feature on your channel and i always find you two have great bouts no matter what jets your both flying. Well done man!

@aztec0112 5 ай бұрын

These YF-23 videos are amazing. I'm thinking I would be reduced to crying insensibly if I saw it's shadow in the sky around me! Thank you for your service to democracy as I am seriously planning on writing a sternly worded letter to my Senator and Congressman immediately after the holidays!

@joeclaridy 5 ай бұрын

What would it say?

@aztec0112 5 ай бұрын

Ooooo, nice try! But I'm not getting banned on Christmas! 😉

@GimmeDaBacon 5 ай бұрын

The Yf23 is just persistent as hell in not giving up the airspace to you that’s required to get it to overshoot. I think we’ll see similar results with the su 27, F15 and even the su30sm

@TaGF_Tomcat 5 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas GS, thanks for all the content year round ♥

@GrowlingSidewinder 5 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas and my pleasure, thank YOU for watching.

@TaGF_Tomcat 5 ай бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinder gotta admit, hypnosis is not something I saw coming in a BFM video, but that YF-23 really made it work lol

@jjermar1 5 ай бұрын

I think the F-14 is by far the most beautiful fighter jet. It's just a perfect combination of round and square shapes.

@iFortold 5 ай бұрын

The only thing I don’t like about f14 is how the engines are spaced SO far apart in the back

@sulyokpeter3941 5 ай бұрын

F-14 looks nice but for me.. F-22, Eurofighter Typhoon, B-1 Lancer, B-52 Stratofortress, TU-95 Bear, TU-22M Backfire, MIG-31 looks better. :D

@Clean97gti 5 ай бұрын

@@iFortoldyeah. But it's fearsome looking when you've got big giant Phoenix missiles side by side between the engine nacelles

@andreabindolini7452 5 ай бұрын

@@sulyokpeter3941F-15C has entered the chat.

@TurboHappyCar 5 ай бұрын

The F-14 is the coolest plane ever made, and that will ever be made. Immortalized in the documentary about the fighter weapons school by ace pilot Pete Mitchell. This is fact. 😂

@richieismyhero 5 ай бұрын

The 2 most beautiful planes whirling around each other...plane porn😂 . Merry Christmas GS and all

@jsmith3798 5 ай бұрын

Admirable effort man. It seems like when going against an advanced fighter like this, the best you can hope for is being able to capitalize on mistakes when they make them, and it seems like it would have to be a pretty big one. So, when they don't really make a mistake, what can ya do..

@MGAFFY 5 ай бұрын

"That's familiar... I don't like it" lmao

@v8makoshark 5 ай бұрын

Happy Xmas G/S ! Another awesome vid my man. Tomcat showing its age here. The YF23 is pretty and amazing. Prefer it to the 22, just wish it did'nt pull the wings off my fav. bird everytime !

@GrowlingSidewinder 5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much and Merry Christmas to you as well. Thank you as always for supporting the channel. I have to agree with you, I think looks-wise, its deff better looking than the F-22.

@doctormosfet 5 ай бұрын

You could design the F23 to thrust vector each engine in the upward direction (vertical with respect to the fuselage), but not the downward direction. So maybe not quite as good as the F22 in terms of total vector range, but still an improvement, especially if the upwards vector can be a higher angle than what the F22 can do in either direction.

@youtubasoarus 5 ай бұрын

By the sounds of that the 23 could turn tighter if that was the case (better rate). Interesting.

@The_Original_Brad_Miller 5 ай бұрын

I agree with ya,, it's a very beautiful plane to my eye, mainly because it is so different looking from the run of the mill fighter jet. It does look like a flying squirrel to me too ;) The cinematics look like you're slow dancing with it, probably not a good idea.... you'll get bit lol

@GrowlingSidewinder 5 ай бұрын

You’re right lol I don’t know how I didn’t see it until now, it kind of looks like a flying squirrel. What a great observation.

@TacticalAlphaCharlie 5 ай бұрын

Now I can’t un see it. 😂

@markhamstra1083 5 ай бұрын

At the time of the ATF competition with the YF-22, the appearance of the YF-23 was considered to be a negative by most observers. It was just too different from the other aircraft of the time, to the extent that there was even speculation to the effect that a critical element of why the YF-22 was selected was because in appearance and other aspects it was more familiar to the evaluators, making them more comfortable in choosing the YF-22.

@dariuszzukowski5244 5 ай бұрын

@@GrowlingSidewinderFlying lemur or a manta. These were my first associations.

@Indarow 5 ай бұрын

In flight the yf23 is absolutely gorgeous, sitting on the ground it looks a bit goofy with the engine humps. I believe there were plans to sleek it up further, I’d loved to see what it would’ve evolved into.

@scootmccracken 5 ай бұрын

The YF-23 is so pretty, shame politics killed it.

@BrianTRice77 5 ай бұрын

I just received a YF-23 model kit as a Christmas present! 😂

@TymaDem 5 ай бұрын

I wish there was a diecast model of YF23 though

@kurvaonwheels 5 ай бұрын

The 1st kill was really awesome to watch. Shooting while doing a roll.

@johnosbourn4312 5 ай бұрын

The secret of the YF-23's agility are its all moving tails, which eliminates the need for stabilators, GS. Also, great video, and Merry Christmas.

@PakShuMan 5 ай бұрын

I remember using the 23 all the time in Jetfighter 2. Those were the times

@denheer 5 ай бұрын

Respect for the good piloting by your opponent. Very calculating and that person knew really well what they were doing with the YF-23.

@heinyhxc 4 ай бұрын

i keep coming back to this fight unironically for the sheer beauty of these two aircraft

@garyclark9725 5 ай бұрын

My Christmas Sidewider, thank you for all the amazing content!

@GerryV62 5 ай бұрын

Wow! That's enough to put the Widow in my nightmares. Great video, thank-you. Merry Christmas to all.

@spackle9999 5 ай бұрын

The real big advantage the YF-23 had was it's huge to internal weapons bay. Imagine Raptors that can also drop JDAMS.

@Asghaad 5 ай бұрын

uhh not the case ... F-22 can carry 6 AMRAAMS while YF-23 had only space for 4 ... and F-22 CAN carry 1000lb JDAMs internally

@Shadowboost 5 ай бұрын

@@Asghaad YF-23 had space for 5 AMRAAMs. But it can vertically stack bombs in its rack. It can carry a TWO thousand pound JDAM because of how deep the bomb bay is.

@muthaz1952 5 ай бұрын

When youre in that dive, and trying to turn a circle around him, the way he can just keep the top of his canopy pointed at you is unreal.

@nicholasmatthews3723 5 ай бұрын

Really like your videos. Learned alot on how you explain everything as you fly. Keep it up bud.

@billisaacs702 5 ай бұрын

Tomcat again huh? "When it gets confused it kinda runs home to Mama". "I'm not following ya Jonesey". Excellent stuff. Try that dogfight in a biplane. You'll fetch him yet.

@OddBall1958 5 ай бұрын

Look to me like he is still out maneuvering you. I'd like to see you in an F16 against the Widow. Good job!😓 Maybe the 117 would be a good choice!

@CNCMatrix 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for another great video and Merry Christmas GS

@GrowlingSidewinder 5 ай бұрын

My pleasure and Merry Christmas to you as-well, much love.

@MrErictank 5 ай бұрын

One of the most beautiful aircraft ever produced. And apparently not a slug of a dogfighter. This pleases me.

@michaelgilbert8034 5 ай бұрын

I think that the best looking planes are the Saab Draken and the SU 47.

@benjaminmatte5225 5 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas GS, stay safe, cool vids

@AG1LA 5 ай бұрын

I see two of my favorite aircraft of all time, I click and like. PS: 2nd day of asking GS to make Toxic his loyal wingman in a two plane mission on any plane but preferably in an ATF (YF23 / F22). A Christmas present, kinda.🎅 Merry Christmas chief!

@gregorioarellano6290 5 ай бұрын

Remarkable aerobatics from both of you guys! Thank you for sharing. Truly a moment of awe.

@baomao7243 5 ай бұрын

GS: “We’re kind of competitive” 😳 Jester: ejects

@jadmillete4247 5 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas to you GS!

@GrowlingSidewinder 5 ай бұрын

Merry Christmas to you as well

@morrielarsen 5 ай бұрын

The 23 was the superior aircraft, Lockheed and Boeing knew this, so they complained to the brass to win the contract since Northrop already had the B2 and McDonnel Douglas was not doing well financially. The 22 is fine and all, but the 23 is just spectacular.

@carlousmagus5387 5 ай бұрын

I love how the F-14 shakes.

@cshan2313 5 ай бұрын

bruh, yf-23 is literally a piece of paper flying around given how thin that thing is

@andrewparker1780 5 ай бұрын

I'd be interested in seeing f22 and yf23 vs su57 and j20

@timbaskett6299 5 ай бұрын

Just look at all that wing area. I could see the design "revisited" with the same wing planform, but larger LEXs, and more of a lifting body (wider) fuselage. I could see the design being called the "F-46 Tiger Ray". A call back to the F-5 Tiger II, and the fact that it would look like a Stingray!!!

@Shadowboost 5 ай бұрын

It doesn't need larger LEX's. The nose chine was the LEX!

@MandalorV7 5 ай бұрын

That really was dancing in the sky. A lovely air show.

@TheUberSchattenjager 5 ай бұрын

The YF-23 reminds me of those human flying squirrel suits. I have seen that Japan is interested in resurrecting the 23 for its own development!

@derekburt2184 5 ай бұрын

Really love watching your videos Merry Christmas

@Tony-zp8xn 5 ай бұрын

"Not as maneuverable" as the F-22, but the YF23 is no slouch. Those diamond shaped wings... they just give it such a UFO-like appearance. Almost reminds me of the little alien fighters from the cinematic masterpiece 'Independence Day' featuring the legendary Jeff Goldblum.

@Nellinator23 5 ай бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree with you on the beauty of the thing - that's part of why it's my favorite "fighter that never was", and is probably second overall only to the Tomcat for me. Thank you, Top Gun: Combat Zones, for introducing me to this thing, and thank *you* for continuing to feature the YF-23 on your channel!

@lonl123 5 ай бұрын

Awesome Video! I agree about the 23, absolutely stunning looking aircraft, and the 23 may fly yet with Japan....Then our 22's and Japan's 23's could cooperate in any future hostilities near Taiwan. I think we would dominate of course, but the Chinese do have numbers....plus their airfields would be closer as well...….Hopefully will never actually come to pass, but I think we would win if it did happen. Your videos for the last 6 months have been literal FIRE. Love nothing more than getting off work, eating dinner and then watching your vid for the day. Awesome Job. Only complaint is I wish your vids were a bit longer. Awesome Job as always. :)

@s3p4kner 5 ай бұрын

If you look at some of the artist renders for the UK Tempest program that Japan signed up to [because US politicians!] it's interesting how many design cues have been taken from the YF-22/23 even 30 years later. The Widow is a 1990's design and obsolete for the 2030-40's so we'll never see it's like in production, but Northrop really knocked it out of the park with that design.

@MR-PMB77 5 ай бұрын

The f22 vs video was unreal

@kennyt8016 5 ай бұрын

The YF 23 pilot is piloting maneuvering his stick like he’s flying an old WWI bi/TRI wing plane. When he goes vertical and gets above you he’s pushing his stick forward again to almost level off 😅rotate his nose for shot. This was crazy awesome flying by the YF pilot

@bengad.1724 5 ай бұрын

2 of my all time favorite fighter jets!!!! Thanks for doing this.

@702BattleBorn 5 ай бұрын

Yo GS. Thank you for another awesome video. 2 amazing airframes in this episode. Merry Christmas. Hope Santa brings you something nice. Have a pleasant day. Cheers

@702BattleBorn 5 ай бұрын

Macross Plus.

@shearfury147 5 ай бұрын

the YF 23 looks like a wing suit. Its very cool.

@michaelingram9583 5 ай бұрын

The military definitely underestimated it!!!!

@blshouse 5 ай бұрын

"I'm a leaf on the wind." - YF-23 probably

@allandioko7695 5 ай бұрын

Thank you Real Quick and Wyvern, and of course to GS, who brings these “what could have beens” to the present day. Kudos!

@charlesrichardson8635 5 ай бұрын

That was hilarious! You are admiring the BW. I can hear the wonder in your voice, then the incoming rounds and you lose a wing. You don't even sound dismayed!

@peatbogg3688 5 ай бұрын

I do appreciate the humour with which you recognise your sudden yet inevitable doom.😄

@aaronliddell4280 5 ай бұрын

I feel like *maybe we should’ve gone with the YF-23 over the F-22 as crazy as that sounds~ 🤷🏻‍♂️

@fox19delta21 5 ай бұрын

Lord! Couldn't beat the YF23 with four F22 Raptors. Let's try the F14 because... Tom Cruise.

@kennydee8296 5 ай бұрын

the F23 seems to have some characteristics of a delta in that once it gets behind there is little chance of escape - that diamond shaped wing is beautiful, the whole thing is beautiful

@jackhall290 5 ай бұрын

Honestly.. GS NAILED it with what he said at 7:00. Seeing that the only "real" competition to the F22(195 made) is the SU-57s in the world(11ish made) can you IMAGINE if they'd funded BOTH. We'd have the nearly invisible dogfighting champ in 100ish F22s so invisible it can dodge missile tracks simply by turning, and the F23 so stealthy(and still so dogfight capable) that even the F22 can't lock it outside 20mi(pretty sure GS hasn't locked one longer than that, definitely hasn't without AWACS) and even if it merges basically any Flanker could/would still be on the defensive.

@brianperry3267 5 ай бұрын

Just seems like the Ol F-14 is going to vibrate apart. Awesome video!

@willwozniak2826 2 ай бұрын

Damn i dont think i have ever seen you lose... im still playing catch up on all of these videos....Great Job👉🏻

@donkeyballs3081 5 ай бұрын

The YF looks like a flying squirrel or a wingsuit from certain angles

@SmilingCamperVan-dd8cb 5 ай бұрын

I would kindly like to request a rematch, using the modernized F-14.

@anthonykuhn1788 5 ай бұрын

We have a YF-22 and f-14 on display in Torrance airport, really nice to see in person

@troyshilanski380 5 ай бұрын

Very goodest video. Merry Christmas.

@horusfalcon 5 ай бұрын

I bet you're going to be studying this in TacView. I know I would if I were you. Thanks for the Christmas gift of this video. Merry Christmas to you and yours.