One of the best kept Mutt secrets....Try this and you will be absolutely amazed!!!!! Doc The Doctors lounge Sign Up Link flatfiv.co/drs-lounge Dr. Bob Store Link flatfiv.co/collections/bobby-...
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@mrock8282 жыл бұрын
What Mutt Lange did with Def Leppard tracks is nothing less than lconically biblical! Words can't even describe it!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Agreed Michael. Unmatched..
@amonchhetri10532 жыл бұрын
genius stuff.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
@@amonchhetri1053 thanks Amon!
@lolly_bread9 ай бұрын
Yeh his treatment on Hysteria made it so unique and one of the most listenable albums during that late 80's period.
@monkface2 жыл бұрын
And it turned out that Baby did indeed, walk that way.
@whatwouldhousedo51362 жыл бұрын
Riders On The Storm has the entire vocal doubled with a whisper.
@NoahNCopeland2 жыл бұрын
additional tip, I try to avoid articulating hard consonants in my whisper tracks, like K's, T's, P's. I just focus mostly on the vowel sounds, and I find that it makes it cleaner, and prevents mouthy saliva clicks from creeping in.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Great point Noah. I have a similar video about this coming up.
@TheChadTI2 жыл бұрын
Makes a big difference man, that's a good point.
@kelainefes2 жыл бұрын
I normally use Spiff to take care of harsh consonants and mouth clicks when I mix whisper tracks. But yes, if the vocalist can perform them cleanly for me, that's great.
@jsmartin Жыл бұрын
Smart.
@dsholt2 жыл бұрын
This was revelatory. I always wonder how they got the Def Leppard vocals to sound like that.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dan!
@danielnugent70462 жыл бұрын
This makes me realize why a lot of small time metal bands, with great producers, can't quite pull off their vocals live.
@MichaelStrick99 ай бұрын
Here we are 36 years later still dissecting Hysteria, still asking questions about the production, still wondering how they got certain sounds and how they accomplished certain techniques, still discovering buried secrets. Keep in mind computers were in their infancy at the time, with Mutt and band literally having to invent the necessary technology and gear to get the sounds they heard in their heads. Hysteria has to be the greatest mainstream record ever made. Anyone less than Mutt driving the band to get the most out of them, and this would not have worked.
@BobbyHuff9 ай бұрын
Totally agreed Michael.
@JeffRyan_88keys2 жыл бұрын
That's awesome. I've heard that in so many of Def Leppard's tracks and never knew how they were getting that effect. Makes perfect sense now. It blends so well. It truly sounds like a crowd singing along with the chorus. Who knew? Thank you!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff!!
@chrisnicholas8242 жыл бұрын
Keep the Mutt Lange production tricks coming. Outstanding content!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris!
@claudefrollono12 жыл бұрын
Mutt Lange is one of the music industry celebs I admire most. It's not just his simply crazy discography list but also his lifestyle, diligence and wisdom. And, of course, the fact that he was married to Shania Twain.
@jasonlieberman46062 жыл бұрын
Bro you look like you time traveled here from the 80s Manchester indie scene. Blink 3 times if I'm right.
@lassel16442 жыл бұрын
Mutt is one of the all time greats
@WearyWatcher Жыл бұрын
then he cheated on her with her best friend, what a guy
@machupikachu108510 ай бұрын
@@WearyWatcher way to take all of his accomplishments and immolate them by mentioning a mistake he made. I hope you don't have anything you've done wrong. Wouldn't want you to become invalidated.
@XcarnationCenkEroglu2 жыл бұрын
Actually it's the whitenoize effect and you do not need to whisper into new channels.. what u already have is enough.. mix down every 8 track with the same voicing into 2 tracks and use a vocoder which can turn your vocal signal into whitenoize (it sounds exactly like a whisper) back in the day I was using an old plugin for this OpCode Fusion VOCODE.. now Izotope vocal synth does the job.. after that use a slight panner too.. panman soundtoys is good for that..
@AliensWanted2 ай бұрын
Mutt Lange had Phil Collen play single notes in a chord and layered them together instead of single chords in some sections. The clarity of the chord is insane.
@mikebinder7452 жыл бұрын
I've noticed in addition to me it sounds like the low octave vocal was tracked with the tape running at slightly higher speed. The impacting result comes when the tape is played back at normal speed the low harmony has slower slurred(for lack of a better term) harmonic effect. Cool video
@scottyelstromm8812 жыл бұрын
That’s a great technic. I feel like the whispers were mixed a little too hot in this example. Also back off the mic more when recording them to give it some natural space.idk about using reverse verb on the whispers. Those might sound better not swishing around. Whatever, I appreciate your studies of the awesome Mutt approaches. ✌🏼
@kelainefes2 жыл бұрын
In my experience If I want to have the whisper tracks that high I have to heavily EQ them so that the normal vocals mask them. Normally that means removing a lot of low end and midrange up to about 3/4kHz with broad bells and low shelves, and boosting the top end without bringing up a creepy harsh tone. In Bobby's defence, the only instruments apart from the vocals were drums so it was going to be very hard to use the whispers to add something to the sound while being "invisible".
@AljonGo2 жыл бұрын
And the crowd goes wild.... *whisper vocals intensifies!!!*
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@luisvillarreal52622 жыл бұрын
Wow. Mutt Lang is a Genius. You did a terrific job on this demo too. The whisper vocals give it that extra large crowd join sound, or how ever you want to call it. Awesome. Thanks for this revealing info. "Hey guys, I'm gonna get rich from KZfaq." Said no one ever. Oh, wait, Didn't Bobby Huff say that? I think he did. LOL
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks Luis.
@kellendustries2 жыл бұрын
Great video. If you've never seen the scene in the movie "Hysteria - The Def Leppard Story" where Mutt (played spectacularly by Anthony Michael Hall) is riding Joe Elliot to stack vocals on "Bringin' on the Heartbreak" you really need to - it'll blow your mind! Pure cinematic platinum! It's around 26 minutes in. \m/
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
I’ll check it out Mark!
@rivieracar199211 ай бұрын
Can you upload it on YT?
@stilwel2 жыл бұрын
John Mayer used this technique a lot on his debut album. Listen to “83” for example.
@BenEller2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome, totally trying this!!! Thanks man.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Do it Ben!!!!
@robertbordevik50722 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!
@kcb53362 жыл бұрын
Uncle Ben!
@martinkuliza2 жыл бұрын
Ok, i am so staying up all night :P
@jessemichaels28182 жыл бұрын
Don't do it. You'll get sued. He has a patent on that, lol (kidding)
@scottyboiLP Жыл бұрын
It took me a while to actually figure out where Mutt was using this trick in the DL catalogue, but the answer was right in front of me the entire time. The most widespread use of the whisper vocal is on Love and Affection from the Hysteria album. It even sounds like he’s using a low-note whisper too.
@weedywet2 жыл бұрын
I discovered Mutt's little trick when I was mixing some Loverboy tracks back in the 1980s. But of course when he did it he had the whole group (3 or 4 voices) singing and then whispering in unison to get even more of a crowd sound.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Mutt wrote "Lovin Every Minute of It," but I didn't know he had worked in any other capacity with Loverboy...very cool!
@weedywet2 жыл бұрын
@@BobbyHuff Yes that was the track I saw it on when I got the multipacks to mix. He was definitely involved in the production. the backgrounds were bounced down on the master, but the reel (which was digital, I think Sony 48 if i remember correctly) also had the 'slave' with just backgrounds on it prebounce. that's where I had that AHA! moment with the whispers.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
@@weedywet Fantastic!! Is your name Mark?
@zinghao131 Жыл бұрын
That's amazing. Thank you! A friend told me to record whispers on top of the vox "like Prince used to do". Following that "sound" advice (pun intended) we recorded literal tiny teeny whispers and it sounded like poo together! But that's more like it! Sure enough, Trent Reznor has used that same trick too!
@incrementaldoom7392 жыл бұрын
That intense whisper does give the multitracked vocal the raspy, menacing edge so distinctive of Pyromania, Hysteria, Waking Up The Neighbours. You've cracked Mutt's code! Brilliant lesson on texturing!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Mutt had some incredible approaches and techniques!
@colinm31302 жыл бұрын
The biggest trick to background vocals in Mutts production was Mutt singing. He would also do a trick where they would not decode some of the tracks which were recorded with Dolby. The unencoded Dolby tracks sound very bright and whispery.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Yes there is a great plugin that replicates this called Type A.
@shanewalshfans2 жыл бұрын
Dude! So good of you to share this! Great video!
@blujazz100007 ай бұрын
The first "whisper vocal" I can remember hearing was "Riders on The Storm" by The Doors. It was quite mesmerizing to hear it in such an epic track. Thanks for the great video, I appreciate how you broke down how to create this effect!😀
@fartpooboxohyeah86112 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this tip. Looking forward to more from you/your channel.
@RockinSG2 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome and adds so much. Great tip, Thanks Doc!
@In_Set2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, just like always, Dr. Bob. Stoked to try this!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Matt!
@guitardave2 жыл бұрын
What an awesome channel this is. Thanks so much for doing these videos Dr Bob!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Dave!
@nikonlinevids Жыл бұрын
U Da Man Bobby! What a great tip. I've been a big Mutt fan for decades and you know how to explain all his magical tricks. Keep 'em coming! Thanks a bunch!
@jasonmcmillan4373 Жыл бұрын
I was ten years old when I bought Hysteria. It was not just my first Def Leppard album, it was the first album I ever got. I was amazed at the sound of the backing vocals, and I really did just think that the guys backing the lead singer just sounded like this when harmonising, I had no other explanation. I guess I was only ten and knew nothing of effects and such. It was years later before I heard 'Thought I'd Died and Gone To Heaven' by Bryan Adams and I immediately thought how cool it was that members of Def Leppard had done backing vocals for Brian! :) I found that this wasn't the case many years later again (birth of the internet actually made such research a possibility) but I could never ever find out why these vocals sounded so alike and what trickery was at work. So imagine the satisfaction here in me tonight, some 35 years after first hearing Hysteria, at finally learning the secret to those amazing vocals thanks to a random KZfaq recommendation finally coming my way and ending the mystery. Thank you so much for this video!
@user-oe2bq7xy7r Жыл бұрын
Grew up on Hysteria too and I had similar realizations listening to Shania Twain later in life. "Wow, why does this sound like Def Leppard??" Then I learned about Mutt Lange later. Probably the only producer I can identify instantly if I hear one of his tracks. "hmmm, I bet this was produced by Mutt Lange..." sure enough, usually correct.
@JimmyG7739 ай бұрын
Was my first album too! I was 13. I couldnt believe how good the guitar sounded. I thought the vocals were just how queen does it. Part of the reason i started playing guitar. Still learning god knows how many years later!
@bradzillarocks2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about this years ago so it's cool to hear it in action.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Brad
@garyballard7232 жыл бұрын
Great job. Thanks for showing.
@7981252 жыл бұрын
Love it! Keep the recording tricks coming!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ron!
@ALTERNATIVEMIXTAPES2 жыл бұрын
I have always been obsessed with Mutts sound especially in how he did Def Leppard’s vocals. He gave them their signature sound. Thx for sharing.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!! Agreed!!
@johnhutchison97822 жыл бұрын
Pete Willis gave Leppard their signature sound, but they cut him loose. They never recovered.
@IRIDEHARLEYS2 жыл бұрын
@@johnhutchison9782 Never recovered? Really???? That's why they were selling millions of albums after Willis left and had countless hits when they hired Mutt Lange to produce 4 of their albums. Lange is the one who largely gave the band their signature sound. Willis was a drunk who was fired for being drunk far too many times and been warned repeatedly over a two year period. Phil Collen took over in place of Willis and the band has been a success and still recording in the studio and touring pretty much ever since. Tell me again how they never recovered. Lol
@j_freed2 жыл бұрын
@@IRIDEHARLEYS - it means DL never were the same creatively. Willis wrote and played on a lot of their last really good album Pyromania. He together with the others brought a vibe and magic to the band quite irrespective of his drinking. That vibe and magic was absent after. And an autotuned duck can sell albums, so I really don’t care how big Hysteria or later albums were. I respect the later work fine as an engineer but don’t listen to it as a music fan.
@operasinger2126 Жыл бұрын
@@j_freed Def's first three albums!
@80zam902 жыл бұрын
Very well executed! Thanks for making this.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate the kindness!
@adambickford24062 жыл бұрын
Bloody brilliant. Love it!!! Can't wait to try it out. Thanks.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Do it Adam!
@kayokk- Жыл бұрын
Finally, a sought after insight. Thank you.
@JamesStaubes2 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Adds so much to the vocals.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James
@koryjames83612 жыл бұрын
That was a great demo/explanation. This guy's channel can teach anyone a lot.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thank u Kory!
@chriscampbell91912 жыл бұрын
Wow. You took it apart quite well. The whisper vocals sound like a "multiplier", like the background vocals are being done by a crowd... sort of. Great vid.
@horacioalcantar10422 жыл бұрын
Great tip just in time as I’m getting ready to record some vocals !! Thank you doc
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Great Horacio! Do it!
@AimingWanderously2 жыл бұрын
I really love the Def Leppard style tips & tricks. Thank you for continuing to share these type of videos. Very very cool stuff!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching man!
@treycallaway7467 Жыл бұрын
This was really cool to watch. Thanks.
@guillermodelnoche2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are an insta-like. Killer trick! I learn a ton from your videos. I appreciate the knowledge!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kindness Guillermo!!!
@miccullen2 жыл бұрын
Mutt Lange is a musical GENIUS.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
No doubt..
@rockalliance88152 жыл бұрын
That's pretty amazing, great trick! Thanks for sharing this info..
@bryang92902 жыл бұрын
Very cool! Comes right at a time when I was wondering how I could get good chorus vocals from just me. This is the sound I was looking for.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
That’s great Bryan! Do it!
@svarthelikoptern2 жыл бұрын
Just another great tip. Hysteria is just so amazing, thank you for deconstructing these techniques. And last tip was top notch as well.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Raunch. Hysteria is from another planet!!!!!
@NickScottProducer Жыл бұрын
You must be using a cloud lifter because that signal is hotttt
@Afurthyclays2 жыл бұрын
I especially like the advice at the end! Thanks.
@humblehombre99042 жыл бұрын
Thanks Doc! You have answered some questions that I’ve had since Pyromania and Hysteria! Dude, this is just fantastic. Nice work, and great description.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend..
@trillrifaxegrindor44112 жыл бұрын
man,this channel needs to blow up...awesomeness
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks so much trilriff! So kind!
@andivaxАй бұрын
Thank you, Bobby! Yesterday I've tried this technique and it actually works pretty well!
@dbendeth2 жыл бұрын
Great lesson here, and a clever effect that is still relevant today.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Captain!!!! Thanks for watching!
@seanemmettfullerton2 жыл бұрын
Maestro B does it again :) You slay me, dude! Yes sir, energy and urgency rock the house!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Sean!
@timothygilman30102 жыл бұрын
Dr.Bob excellent tutorial. Just found your site today. Very pleased with the way this came out.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Timothy!!
@megahurtz302 жыл бұрын
Great stuff man!! Great video
@vaughanband2 жыл бұрын
As always Bobby, bloody brilliant
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam!
@bwm51502 жыл бұрын
Great demo of the technique Doc! 👍
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@JaviBello2 жыл бұрын
What a gem!!! thanks for sharing, Bobby!! Ill use it on my next production, for sure! :D
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jav!!!
@jonmorris96452 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a difference. I never heard this before. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome tip. I’ve tried similar “breathy” things to get that Def Lep BGV sound, but never quite the way you demo here. Totally gonna try it 😁
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thx David! Go for it man!!!
@regardinghenry21452 жыл бұрын
So cool! Gives it an instant "crowd" vocal flavour!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Henry!
@forestwhitehead2 жыл бұрын
Great tips Dr Bob
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Forest!
@martinrochefort54762 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I always noticed the BGV on Def Leopard and wondered how this was done. Thanks.
@metaversemusician1062 жыл бұрын
Very creative and clever Bobby. The Dr. Theme and ending are very well thought out ideas. I enjoyed the video and you really sound like Joe Elliott on those tracks. Keep up the good work and best wishes to you in your KZfaq journey!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Davey I appreciate ur support!!
@magneto79302 жыл бұрын
I've done quite a few things with whispering, including taking the pitch down an octave, and/or overdubbing several tracks of it, etc. Adding effects to whispering is when it really gets fun. You can hear it on Riders on the Storm by The Doors.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Very cool Magneto!
@fross12032 жыл бұрын
With the whispers, it sounds like a Beelzebub- inspired fist-pump party. Very cool trick.
@gioruo89952 жыл бұрын
C'mon baby, walk this way
@shivasix91362 жыл бұрын
UN-FRIGGING believable!!! Thanks for putting it out there!!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Shiva.
@kevinrosner86762 жыл бұрын
This is a great vid. Most people don’t know how much layering, mixing and mastering affects the final product.
@JamesOKeefe-US2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant as always! I love how the British accent comes out in the lower octave 😂 So good! 👍 🤘
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks James!
@joebuckley91812 жыл бұрын
Another great video, I was just getting ready to do something similar and this will help, thanks and God Bless!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Great Joe!!
@TheAquabears2 жыл бұрын
Try putting the whisper vocal through a highpass filter to cut some of the lows out of it. You can use the filter to tune it a bit to better suit the tonality of your mix.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Great tip!
@KoriTV2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Love that you performed it on camera
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@davidhall5078 Жыл бұрын
This is amazing, thank you!
@CaptainCraigKWMRZ2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are bringing this back. I was doing this on my tascam in the 80s. Didn't know it was a secret. Next thing, you will be slowing down the recording to half speed and recording vocals....
@Willgjennings2 жыл бұрын
Man that’s sick Bobby. Love it!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Will!
@HollywoodRecordingStudio2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Once again, I learned a lot in a nice bite-sized lesson.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Meghan!
@cominhomewithjohnalan91032 жыл бұрын
Great video ! I can’t wait to try this.
@HewittH2 жыл бұрын
Great advice, great demonstration, and a good laugh with the "wrong script" joke near the end.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Thanks Hewitt!
@JariSchroderus2 жыл бұрын
I came across this technique in the most unlikely place: Billy Ocean’s When the Going Gets Tough, the Tough Get Going. It’s near the end during the call and answer section near the end of the song. For a second I thought I spotted Joe Elliot’s voice, but I’m guessing it’s actually Mutt Lange. He’s credited as one of the composers of the song.
@iamjarrettdean9358 Жыл бұрын
Dude thats CRAZY how much that sounds like Def Leppard backing vox. Mutt is the man! Nice going!
@surrealcereal6032 жыл бұрын
Big thumbs up, man. This was great. Thanks.
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@craigcolleymakingmusic2 жыл бұрын
Awesome technique and very well done video. Thank you!
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Craig!!
@Dgarig6652 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'll be using this.
@adambradley26052 жыл бұрын
DUDE. That is crazy! Thanks for this :D
@jesselp506 ай бұрын
Excellent video and content
@blessedheavyelements85442 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Thank you very much. Best Regards and Best Wishes!
@zgs122120122 жыл бұрын
Genius stuff once again! Thanks Doc
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stephen!
@Cygnus-X12 жыл бұрын
That was really cool man, thanks for sharing
@BobbyHuff2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Chris
@operasinger2126 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Bobby! Heaven has a spot for you.
@LucasHaneman2 жыл бұрын
Never thought of this, but I really dig it!
@DavesGuitarChannel Жыл бұрын
Daniel Lanois used this technique on So for Peter Gabriel. You can hear clear as day on Mercy Street. Pierre Marchand used it as well.