Oriental Orthodox Churches had a great decade. This video covers that story, how they are handling the growth, and what the future may hold.
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@jonahanderson91018 ай бұрын
Grew up Protestant, just went to my first Divine Liturgy today! And WOW I feel like I’ve found what I’ve been missing. Pray for me as a journey deeper into Christ!
@levitatingpotato1098 ай бұрын
Good for you👍
@mynameis......238 ай бұрын
Brother leave
@marincusman93038 ай бұрын
Eastern or Coptic?
@richardounjian92708 ай бұрын
Before you decide look into the Traditional Latin Mass. Also, the Catholic Church has 22 other rites which are all eastern. After the schism in 1054 as word traveled, not all eastern bishops thought it acceptable to be out of communion with Rome. They returned. The Catholic Church looks almost identical to the Church before the schism. God bless you on your journey
@marincusman93038 ай бұрын
@@richardounjian9270 except for filioque, papacy, clown mass, indulgences, etc
@FatherSonSpirit17 ай бұрын
I am a black american who grew up Protestant, but am beginning to believe that Orthodox is the true church. I knew I was missing something in the Protestant community.
@awatchman-um7vy7 ай бұрын
What you are missing is the truth of the Bible. The manmade cult of orthodoxy has nothing to do with the Bibles Christianity. It is an antigod/antibible/antichrist abomination.
@StarsBarsAndCheese6 ай бұрын
@@awatchman-um7vyAs a Catholic what are you going on about
@awatchman-um7vy6 ай бұрын
@@StarsBarsAndCheese ,...Catholicism and orthodoxy are sisters, and both are 100% antigod/antibible/antichrist cults. They are the false manmade religions of the accursed of God. Repent!
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr3 ай бұрын
Too many white people. Orthodox could very well be the true church though. I don't think I'd fit in well with a bunch of Ethiopians even if I did decide that Enoch was canonical etc. Seems weird.
@forthosewithearstohear62193 ай бұрын
@@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr ,...Orthodoxy/catholicism has nothing to do with the Christianity of the Bible. They are both 100% apostate, Godless, manmade, abominations. They are the religions of the accursed of God.
@ienjoyapples8 ай бұрын
Elderly Eastern European immigrants are dying and middle eastern immigrants are flocking to the U.S.. In Eastern Orthodoxy, ethnic parishes are disappearing, while English-speaking parishes are growing, mostly from American converts.
@letruweldonothsa26228 ай бұрын
That's what I'm saying. The EO Church in America is "changing hands"-- from a mostly ethnic one to a mostly convert one.
@wiktorhoffmar19848 ай бұрын
@@letruweldonothsa2622 Is that inherently bad? Just asking out of curiosity
@levitatingpotato1098 ай бұрын
@@wiktorhoffmar1984it's dangerous because many converts refuse to actually convert in the heart and learn the theology so they effectively keep all of their protestant presuppositions with an Orthodox paint job over the top of it, when this happens they are like a hidden tumor in the church only to be revealed during the next apostasy.
@ienjoyapples8 ай бұрын
@@wiktorhoffmar1984 It's far from bad, it's good and necessary if we want Orthodoxy to thrive in America in the future.
@the_albanian_meme60417 ай бұрын
I think I've begun to see some pushback against this. While many Slavic and even Greek parishes have declined in membership, the Greeks atleast have created a formula that maximizes youth involvement and prioritizes teaching them the language. For this reason, I think it'll be quite a long time before the Convert parishes can grow large enough to compete with the Greek presence which will likely survive as the predominant and largest American Orthodox group for quite some time.
@sereneorb8 ай бұрын
Im a Syrian Orthodox Christian living in India. Im so happy that our members are growing in the US. We here have a strong community all thanks to St. Thomas who established the first Christian community in the indian subcontinent. May they grow even stronger and lead our the people into the true path. Amin✝️♥️
@shadowbannedforspeakingtru14367 ай бұрын
Orthodoxy has nothing whatsoever to do with the Christianity of the Bible. It is the false manmade religion (cult) of the accursed of God. Repent!
@Cjnw7 ай бұрын
* Bharat 🇮🇳
@Questioner69697 ай бұрын
Amen.
@forthosewitheyestosee81837 ай бұрын
@@Questioner6969 ,...You are all completely blind, lost, and deceived. As well as outside of the kingdom of God. Completely steeped in deception. Repent!
@DefenderOfChrist_7 ай бұрын
God bless you brother
@jahveen8 ай бұрын
Lately there seems to be growing online interest in orthodoxy. I pray that eastern grows over this next decade
@ienjoyapples8 ай бұрын
It will. The stats for Eastern Orthodoxy don't paint the full picture. Ethnic parishes are declining, while english-speaking, "Americanized" parishes are growing rapidly. Weekly attendance at my parish has nearly doubled in 2 years. The ethnic parishes will die off, and what will be left is a growing and thriving brand of uniquely American Orthodoxy.
@rynun76208 ай бұрын
I blame the "1 hour of Chad Orthodox Chants to redeem your soul" video lol
@calebgoodwin52598 ай бұрын
@methodius--9405Same man, I just started going to this Antiochian western rite church called Saint Patrick’s Orthodox Church in Virginia. It is very nice, there is around 300 people who attend it and man, it’s just amazing. The priest said after three months of attending I can become a catechumen there :D
@thiloyoung54848 ай бұрын
In the Coptic church there is a lot of immigration and many marry Americans who must be baptized first. This accounts I think for much of the growth. Growth from evangelism that I’ve seen seems to be most in the Antiochian churches.
@adalfyre79378 ай бұрын
@rynun7620 No exaggeration my first exposure to Orthodoxy, now I'm a Catechumen 😅
@bereketkidane78027 ай бұрын
I am orthodox Christian from Eritrea. I am so proud of growing Orthodox Church in America.🙏⛪️
@awatchman-um7vy7 ай бұрын
You will not be proud on judgement day when Jesus casts you into the lake of fire. Repent!
@DLR19977 ай бұрын
You need some pride to keep moving forward in life, but not so much that you have a massive ego and care about nothing but yourself
@lofi-sz1km7 ай бұрын
sister church🥰🥰 from ET
@nebiyuamare6 ай бұрын
Are you a Muslim? Wdym repent. How do you know he never has? @@awatchman-um7vy
@kidusadugna54257 ай бұрын
Thanks from an Ethiopian Orthodox! :)
@ReadyToHarvest7 ай бұрын
Thank you, Kidus!
@kidusadugna54257 ай бұрын
Ethiopian Orthodox here - thank you so much for this video!!! By God's Will and grace and help, we'll make sure we don't fall in the same cycle.
@jas9friend7 ай бұрын
So curious about Ethiopian orthodoxy. I would love to read the books you guys have that we don’t. But last I checked they’re not translated yet? Is that still the case?
@kidusadugna54257 ай бұрын
@@jas9friend A lot, if not all of the books in our Bible have been translated already. The book of Enoch is a good example - it has many audiobooks on KZfaq as well. I agree that we have a ton of books that are yet to be translated. I'll try to make a list of the ones that have been translated.
@vtino48257 ай бұрын
@@kidusadugna5425 is there an online English translation of the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible ? I would like to study the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr3 ай бұрын
Why didn't God just help the Eastern Orthodox not fall into it in the first place though?
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr3 ай бұрын
@@jas9friendEnoch is translated
@KYRonDonTongLongSchlong8 ай бұрын
Appalachian Orthodoxy has been a huge interest of mine lately as an Orthodox myself, I kinda hope one day Appalachian Orthodoxy represents American Orthodoxy as a whole.
@anluisa99608 ай бұрын
What's Appalachian Orthodoxy? I live there and know of one Orthodox Church in town but have heard this term before
@KYRonDonTongLongSchlong8 ай бұрын
@@anluisa9960 it's a term I only just recently started to hear, basically it's a collective of Orthodox churches throughout the Appalachian that were once associated heavily with the Russian Orthodox Church, but for whatever reason seem to be establishing their own American traditions and values within the church. I don't think they have any major theological differences, rather I believe it's just the birth of a true American Orthodox Church that could possibly get accepted by the Bishop of Constantinople, maintaining the Orthodox way while ingraining American culture, allowing people to feel more connected.
@justin_messer8 ай бұрын
@@anluisa9960it’s a nomenclature given to certain Antiochian parishes in West Virginia, Virginia and North Carolina that uses Appalachian style plainchant instead traditional Byzantine chant during services.
@amygdala98578 ай бұрын
@@KYRonDonTongLongSchlong it doesnt matter whether the Patriarch of Constantinople accepts it, he isnt a supreme pontiff, it just has be be accepted by God and the Church as a whole, America is a difficult one, personally i assume it will have adlest 2 to 4 Orthodox Cultures, that of Alaska which is already firmly established, that of Appalachia, which is being formed and growing, then i assume the coasts will either accept the Appalachian tradition, mould their own, and if they mould their own it will either be together or separate, and God Willing the OCA will get a Patriarch
@KYRonDonTongLongSchlong8 ай бұрын
@@amygdala9857 very well said, perhaps my original comment was a bit ignorant. I do believe those on the coasts will either associate with Alaska or Appalachia Orthodoxy at some point, at least it is my hope. Better to all be united than divided further. The Appalachian culture is so beautiful and in my opinion it's beautifully fit into Orthodox tradition, I just pray it becomes an American beacon and people travel for miles upon miles to find themselves in the mountains.
@mercster8 ай бұрын
When I was in middle school, our Social Studies class went on a field trip to various local places of worship. One of the churches we visited was a Greek Orthodox (I am in Knoxville TN, so... lots of churches.) It was a very curious and beautiful place. Thanks for the video sir.
@amirsad41137 ай бұрын
Here I am an ethiopian orthodox chrstian may God unite us❤
@StarsBarsAndCheese6 ай бұрын
As a Catholic I hope the best for you brother.
@bman52578 ай бұрын
As a Catholic, I wish the best for my Orthodox brethren. An increase in Orthodox Christianity, while we have our disagreements, would be a net benefit for the country in terms of reclaiming a more historic and more apostolic from of Christian faith.
@oliveri94077 ай бұрын
We should wish for them to stop being schismatics and recommune with us.
@bman52577 ай бұрын
@@oliveri9407 I do. But it’s not black and white. E.g. Being an Evangelical is better than being Mormon.
@badbda47 ай бұрын
@@oliveri9407you have things backwards. The RCC is not only schismatic, but also completely heretical. Come back to the true faith. ☦️
@ByZHellas7 ай бұрын
@@oliveri9407Who? The Orthodox? We are the true Church.
@oliveri94077 ай бұрын
@@ByZHellas Which eastern “orthodox” church? They’re inter-excommunicated and ethnically divided
@leslietascoff97848 ай бұрын
Excellent! I’ve recently been meeting some Coptic Orthodox Christians in the DC area
@MrWesford8 ай бұрын
They are not the same as Orthodox Christians. They have a heretical christology that makes salvation impossible
@theonlylolking2 ай бұрын
I bet the disaster of David Platt's takeover of Mclean Bible Church has boosted Orthodox Christianity around D.C. or greatly harmed protestant churches around D.C. People have heard bad things from way out of D.C. about what happened to that mega church.
@ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded8 ай бұрын
Im glad to be greek Orthodox from america. Glory To The Father, And To The Son, And To The Holy Spirit. Amen.
@DylanGames10008 ай бұрын
Orthodoxy: Schism and heresy. No salvation outside the catholic church. The holy spirit proceeds from the father and the son as shown by John 16.
@ReplyToMeIfUrRetarded8 ай бұрын
@@DylanGames1000 John 16: “I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. But when He (He? Is this The Same Spirit?) The Spirit Of Truth comes, He will guide you into all The Truth. He will not speak on His own; He will speak only what He hears, and He will tell you what is yet to come. He will glorify me because it is from me that He will receive what he will make known to you. All that belongs to The Father is mine. That is why I said The Spirit will receive from me what He will make known to you.” Where exactly does this “prove” the “”filioque””? “I said The Spirit will *receive* from me what He will make known to you.” Receive. Nicene creed’s context states: “Who *proceeds* from The Father” (alone). Procession is not the same as receiving. Procession in the Nicene creed’s *context* equals creation. Theres no excusing or denying this either, Because you arent part of The Church. Quite idiotic of you to call My Faith “”pagan”” while you worship a heart.
@elizabetha.98088 ай бұрын
@@DylanGames1000Just stop. 😢
@J..P..8 ай бұрын
@@DylanGames1000your own church now denies no salvation outside the church, btw. It even asserts, blasphemously I might add, that the jews and muslims worship the same God. And no, the filioque is heresy. And again, your own church even acknowledges that the creed was recited without the filioque clause for the first 800+ years.
@nebiyuamare6 ай бұрын
You really believe if you're not Catholic, you won't be saved? @DylanGames1000
@joshleggett45518 ай бұрын
I’m a Catechumen in the Greek Orthodox Church. It’s beautiful, everything about it, the church, the liturgy, the kindness of the people.
@mikebastiat8 ай бұрын
It's a cult
@weirdlanguageguy8 ай бұрын
@@mikebastiat The word 'cult' is highly disparaged among scholars of religion for several reasons, including its origins in debunked european racial theories, its charged and pejorative nature, and its incredibly vague and subjective definition. We as a society would do well to avoid using it.
@LSSD12928 ай бұрын
@@mikebastiatit's the true church of Christ, how can you call it a cult?
@mikebastiat8 ай бұрын
@@LSSD1292 Catholics claim the same thing.
@LSSD12928 ай бұрын
@@mikebastiat i know
@ATEN_DNAR8 ай бұрын
Based. I pray all the best for these churches.
@majesticrainmaker14607 ай бұрын
Oriental Orthodox Church will Succeed through the grace of God.
@nickdavila948 ай бұрын
EO catechumen here. I have attended liturgy at a Coptic Orthodox church. I feel that the Copts are our brothers.
@tnyw872621h8474h98 ай бұрын
Be careful with what you mean by that. We have closed communion for a reason
@nickdavila948 ай бұрын
@@tnyw872621h8474h9 what are you trying to convey?
@iddodomingo61188 ай бұрын
I converted to oriental orthodox
@MinaDKSBMSB8 ай бұрын
Welcome to the bride of Christ. May our great Lord Jesus Christ bless you and confirm you in the faith.
@Dave-hc8xn7 ай бұрын
Welcome home
@one_step_sideways7 ай бұрын
why
@Dave-hc8xn7 ай бұрын
@@one_step_sideways Cause it is the Holy Orthodox Catholic Church founded by Christ and his disciples that remained pure and didn’t fell to heresy
@majesticrainmaker14607 ай бұрын
Mashallah
@jajohnson78097 ай бұрын
For decades, the local Greek parish was the only Orthodox community in my area. Now, we also have Serbian, Russian, Ethiopian, Eritrean, and Coptic congregations. It's a beautiful thing to see.
@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed7 ай бұрын
Actually, it is an abomination! Repent!
@andresgalindo76827 ай бұрын
I´m a Greek Orthodox in South America i really love the Greek cause the bible was written in Greek and Christ is a Greek word, but all my Orthodox brothers are also part of my hearth
@awatchman-um7vy7 ай бұрын
@@andresgalindo7682 ,...All those snared into orthodoxy are those who are outside of the kingdom of God.
@awatchman-um7vy7 ай бұрын
@@danvinsontrailor2339 ,...Says God (the Bible). Repent, and learn what the truth, the gospel, and the Christianity of the Bible actually is.
@awatchman-um7vy7 ай бұрын
@@danvinsontrailor2339 You do not learn Biblical truth nor the Bibles Christianity in the orthodox church, nor in any church. Everything called and known as the church is apostate from God. What the world/church knows as "the church" is not the church of Jesus. Jesus's church is a spiritual church not a physical church. Again, everything known as the church is all made up of those who went out from the apostles who were not of the apostles. "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us." 1 John 2:19 KJV All the actual Christians are outside of everything known as the church. They are taught the actual truth of Gods word by the Holy Spirit, and are not deceived by the churches phony priests, pastors, preachers, teachers. If anyone has anything to do with anything known as the church, they are outside of the kingdom of God. "But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him." 1 John 2:27 KJV
@tomnola72048 ай бұрын
Very informative as are all of your videos. Thank you for all of the work you do to produce these videos
@Squirrel-Muncher7 ай бұрын
My parish has had a 7% increase in members every year for the past 5 years glory be to God
@forthosewitheyestosee81837 ай бұрын
And if your parish had anything to do with the truth and Christianity of the Bible you would see a decrease of 100% instantly.
@dumbboi47834 ай бұрын
@@forthosewitheyestosee8183Protestants ☕️
@RosarioRodriguez4208 ай бұрын
I'm currently an Orthodox Inquirer ☦️
@JeffRyman697 ай бұрын
When we lived in Oak Ridge, TN we attended the Episcopal Church there. The rector was Fr. Stephen Freeman. A couple of years after we moved to Las Vegas for my work, Fr. Freeman became an Orthodox priest and moved to St. Anne Orthodox Church that was established in Oak Ridge in 1998. I have often thought I would like to have the opportunity to attend a service at St. Anne should I ever get back to Oak Ridge.
@TexaSurvival7 ай бұрын
Coming from an Episcopal background you might also look into the Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter and look for a Parrish near you. The Masses of theirs that I’ve been to are extremely beautiful and valid!
@SchofieldRex8 ай бұрын
I've been attending a small Antiochinan Orthodox mission for about a year and a half and I'm now a catechumen. I belive in my church with all that is in me, but I had no idea the non chalcedonian orthodox churches were growing so much. There aren't any "Oriental" Orthodox churches near me and I have fallen in love with my church, I wonder if I would have joined a Copic one instead if that was my only option.
@microcolonel8 ай бұрын
Chalcedon is a red herring on balance I think, and I can foresee a reconciliation between the Oriental and Eastern Orthodox in our lifetimes.
@nickdavila948 ай бұрын
Catechumen in a Greek Orthodox church here and have had the joy of attending the liturgy at the Coptic Orthodox Church near me. I have had a few people give me their weak theological arguments as to why the Copts aren't the complete Orthodox Church. Bunch of bologna to me. They are Orthodox! God willing we will reunite in our lifetime.
@microcolonel8 ай бұрын
@@nickdavila94 the wound is 1600 years long, but not so deep. It can be done.
@SchofieldRex8 ай бұрын
@@nickdavila94 I've looked into reconciliation efforts between the 2 churches and it seems like many think that the differences between the two are mostly cultural and differences in translation, however some "Eastern" Orthodox Authorities hold that the anathemas proclaimed in later ecumenical councils must be accepted by the "Oriental" Orthodox to reestablish communion. A difficult situation that I thankfully I don't have to play a role in as a catechumen. Glory to our God in all things.
@nickdavila948 ай бұрын
@@microcolonel At the Coptic Church I attended the priests were all hopeful. My brother was baptized in a Greek church and his priests were likewise hopeful.
@ammazer12298 ай бұрын
As an EO I pray that the OO & EO reunify. We agree on almost everything and historically have had very warm relations.
@MinaDKSBMSB7 ай бұрын
@eucharistangel4662you come from a background that has polluted the definition of faith. You treat faith as if it is something that is stated and sits there idly. St. Paul’s definition of faith is “faith working through love.” Indeed, St. James agreed with him and taught us that “faith without works is dead.” Faith is kinetic. In Christ’s parable of the talents, the wicked servant could’ve believed in compounding interest all day and night. It is the fact that he did NOT ACT that got him kicked out into the place of weeping and gnashing of teeth. The church fathers are in agreement that faith is not merely a text message you send a megachurch while sitting cross legged sipping on a latte.
@MinaDKSBMSB7 ай бұрын
@eucharistangel4662 you continue to bang your head against a wall and misdefine faith. Show me ANY early church father quote and I’ll show you that their definition of faith is KINETIC. Let your cherry-picking quotes commence so that we can save you from the blindness. Throw out good works to your own peril! May the intercessions of St. Paul and St. James heal you of your corruption.
@MinaDKSBMSB7 ай бұрын
@eucharistangel4662 and no one said that our works were sin cleansing. No amount of works can give us salvation. It is entirely through the grace of our Lord. BUT we still have to do our part and have a FAITH WORKING (Kinetic) through LOVE in order to be considered “good and faithful servants.” Join the demons if you merely want to call Him “Christ”
@milagroman757 ай бұрын
I hope so too, but we do not agree on almost everything. Denial of the Hypostatic Union is a HUGE deal and should not be taken lightly ever.
@danfsteeple7 ай бұрын
The Monophysites must renounce their heretical “saints” that were condemned at Chalcedon before anything can happen
@Ninasee194 ай бұрын
You really have done ur homework, thank you for ur video!!! Ethiopian Orthodox Here ❤❤❤
@andys30358 ай бұрын
I'm a convert from Protestantism to Eastern Orthodoxy (Greek) and I'm seeing growth in my parish. While its primarily comprised of Greeks and the Liturgy is half Greek and half English, there have been a lot of Protestants coming in. The worship, the people and community are wonderful and there's a good mix of non-Greek parishioners.
@letruweldonothsa26228 ай бұрын
I didn't even realize that there were any ethnic Russians at my ROCOR church until like a month of attending haha
@PatriotSFV15 ай бұрын
I'm happy just being a protestant, the orthodox church is fine for many people. But to close to catholicism for me.
@Aaron.T20052 ай бұрын
@@PatriotSFV1The early Christians weren’t a bunch of Protestants running around with nothing but their Bible and conscience. They had a visible church structure with bishops and deacons, and an oral tradition. Just a thought
@microcolonel8 ай бұрын
It is time to make more moves toward reconciling the Eastern and Oriental churches. If it's not complete soon, it at least be should be closer sooner.
@MrWesford8 ай бұрын
Whenever the Orientals want to give up their heretical views of Christ they are welcome to do so.
@levitatingpotato1098 ай бұрын
The only reconciliation of for the Orientals to repent and convert.
@RunawayYe8 ай бұрын
Eastern Orthodox is much more similar to Catholicism (with both being Chalcedonian) than to Oriental Orthodox (which is non-Chalcedonian). First the Eastern Orthodox and Catholics need to unite before even considering Orientals.
@levitatingpotato1098 ай бұрын
@@RunawayYe they can not unite unless ths catholics denounce their innovations and repent, the orthodox will not allow it, maybe the corrupt Bartholomew will bring his church, but then he would just be eastern catholic and would not be recognized by 80% of other orthodox .
@microcolonel8 ай бұрын
@@RunawayYe not so; though on paper the Oriental churches are "non-Chalcedonian", both Eastern and Oriental have acknowledged officially that their differences at Chalcedon were entirely semantic, and the Orientals are not hostile to the remaining councils. As for the Romans, though in theory the theology is reconcilable, they have decided within themselves many things that Eastern Orthodox would see as heresies. On paper going just by councils, we are much closer; but in practice the political machinations that caused the schism of 1054 have new political machinations to replace them; will Orthodox accept Pope Francis, a communist activist, as Ecumenical Patriarch? Will we change the powers of the Ecumenical Patriarchate (jurisdiction over autocephaly, for example) just in time for Rome to take its seat again?
@KnoxEmDown8 ай бұрын
5:30 Oh no, even the copts have fallen for the "no beautiful architecture allowed" meme! STOP BUILDING UGLY BUILDINGS THAT COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, I BEG OF YOU
@nickdavila948 ай бұрын
Yea terrible. The Holy St Mary and St Pishoy Coptic Church in Los Angeles is stunning.
@KnoxEmDown7 ай бұрын
@@reidmartin6209 I will
@woody13208 ай бұрын
Very informative as always, I have very little knowledge of the Orthodox groups.
@sirennoir2587 ай бұрын
Praise the Lord!
@CudjoFox8 ай бұрын
The video touched on it a bit, but I wonder if Oriental Orthodoxy will see the kind of influx of converts that Eastern Orthodoxy has. I get the impression that Coptic and Malankara (South Indian) churches are open to using English in services, but I get the impression that Ethiopian, Eritrean and Syriac churches are not. Of the Oriental Orthodox churches, I am most familiar with the Armenian Church, and I am aware that their canons require the use of Grabar (Classical Armenian) in worship. If that were not the case, I am sure that Armenian churches would be flooded with converts, since the Armenian liturgy has similarities to both the Byzantine and traditional Roman rites, and this would be very attractive to converts seeking traditional styles of liturgy. As it stands, virtually all of the people that I know of who converted to the Armenian Church did so because they married into an Armenian family.
@aloe7048 ай бұрын
I'm not entirely sure, but I know that some Tewahedo churches in USA have english services for the youth (that were raised in USA)
@tjdronex11138 ай бұрын
As a convert to Coptic Orthodoxy, I have met many converts to Coptic orthodoxy both in real life, and online. I have also met many more who converted to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church aswell.
@anthonystreeter78088 ай бұрын
Grabar is a form of Armenian that was spoken a thousand years ago, so most Armenians who are fluent in modern Armenian dialects have trouble understanding it. I have a friend who was recently ordained a priest in the Armenian Catholic Church. He has started to deliver the mass in English once a month and says it is going well.
@tjdronex11138 ай бұрын
Thats amazing! Godbless him and his Church. Also understandable they are having trouble understanding the language, Godwilling it can be understood more properly.@@anthonystreeter7808
@zyaicobАй бұрын
The Ethiopian and Eritrean churches are supposed to use the language of the people but for cultural reasons that has been very slow, recently our youth have been advocating for it and doing a lot of work in that area. The habesha people in the US and Canada have been pretty "isolationist" from what I've seen
@jeffkardosjr.38257 ай бұрын
A Coptic church took over a former Roman Catholic church near where my church is located.
@cyberpunkworld7 ай бұрын
Imagine what this guy felt in the span of 24-48 hours so we still remember him two thousand years later. God bless.
@apollonia66567 ай бұрын
Thank GOD for this good news.
@GermanShepherd19838 ай бұрын
Interesting video. I was surprised though, I expected it to be on the Orthodox Presbyterian Church, which is also seeing good growth.
@GabrielWithoutWings7 ай бұрын
For you EOs, here's a fun fact: You know what you (Eastern Orthodox) are called by Oriental Orthodox? Roman Orthodox.
@HolaBruv7 ай бұрын
Cuz they were mostly ruled by Byzantine (Rome)
@blade75064 ай бұрын
only certain dialects of arabic say this, not too sure abt Amharic or Tigriniya or Armenian
@meina06142 ай бұрын
Thats literally what the Melkites are.
@jonahembrom404315 күн бұрын
I am an Indian and Pentecostal and happy that Orthodox Christians growing because I admire the believers for being very conservative.
@spiderb33678 ай бұрын
EO ethnic legacy parishes are dying out and their youth don’t care because they were raised to be “Greek” (or other nationality) instead of Orthodox. Convert parishes are growing exponentially. I’d rather see 5 small convert parishes with 10 people each than a big 500 person cathedral with only a few yia yias left
@costakeith90488 ай бұрын
That was the previous generation, those who were raised going to Greek school and in Greek culture tended to stay in the Church, but many of them did not like their Greek cultural education or, more to the point, they didn't like that it marked them as an outsider in American society, so they didn't force the same experience on their children. It's that generation that became thoroughly 'Americanized' and left the Church; it's not that they converted to another religion or sect, they just became irreligious like most of American society, left to the suburbs and stopped going to Church altogether. American culture has had a corrupting and corrosive effect on every people who have migrated here, it's sadly just a matter of time until their cultural identity is subsumed into the greater culture. There was a lot of criticism about those Greeks who seemed to want to be 'Eastern Rite Anglicans' 30 years ago, those Greeks did not raise their children to be Greek or even particularly Orthodox. We're seeing the impact of that today in the once large urban parishes that were built around Greek immigrant communities. Similar effects can be observed in the Russian emigre communities that were very strong in the 20's and 30's, but have declined over the decades as their children became more and more Americanized.
@the_albanian_meme60417 ай бұрын
The Greek parishes I've been around appear to have found a way to maximize youth involvement and teach them the language, from where I'm sitting, it'll be a very very long time before the Converts, with less money, less infrastructure, and far less population, can even compete with the Greeks.
@spiderb33677 ай бұрын
@@the_albanian_meme6041 compete in terms of money and stuff sure. But that doesn’t really matter as much as being faithful. I’m not dogging all Greeks by any means
@schizofren_ia8 ай бұрын
Πιστεύω εις Μίαν, Αγίαν, Καθολικήν και Αποστολικήν Εκκλησίαν
@joeskill46637 ай бұрын
Very interesting..👍🏽
@epicnear7787 ай бұрын
Christ is Risen!! ☦️🇵🇷☦️🇵🇷☦️
@nicky56838 ай бұрын
Orthodoxy has always promoted use of the vernacular in liturgy. But, with the original parishoners not having English as their first language, it ia natural that the old languages (be it Russian, Serbian, Ukrainian, Coptic, Geez, etc) remained the language used. Their children grew up speaking them, and this lasted for generations. I went to a Ukrainian Catholic church growing up, and we were among the last to have fully Ukrainian (at times, Church Slavonic) liturgies. When I started taking my daughter, it was mostly in English. This is definitely a part of the lack of converts. One of the biggest issues for Luther and the other reformers was the exclusive use of Latin; the common people simply could not understand what was being said, and could not fully grasp what orthodox belief was. If I remember correctly, Tikon, metropolitan of the Russian Orthodox Church in the early part of the 20th century (under whos authority the Antiochans, Serbians, etc fell because they had no hierarchies of their own) was pushing for a truly American Orthodox Church, to eventually be autocephalous. He was made Patriarch of Moscow, and the idea died out (not to mention a lot of outside influences from other groups). Personally, I still favor the old traditions and language: the Slavic ways were (and are) different than thoughs of the Greeks. Or Arabs. Or Georgians. But, the vernacular is they key.
@treewalker10708 ай бұрын
"Tikhon...was pushing for a truly American Orthodox Church, to eventually be autocephalous." But that is what the OCA is, and it has been autocephalous since I think 1970.
@MrWesford8 ай бұрын
@@treewalker1070But the OCA is typical highly suspect and tends towards heresy.
@treewalker10708 ай бұрын
@@MrWesford Really? Please explain.
@letruweldonothsa26228 ай бұрын
@@MrWesfordplease explain
@nicky56838 ай бұрын
@@treewalker1070 not under its own patriarchate
@Tsarphim8 ай бұрын
Return Home ☦️
@tinsaeseyoum37284 ай бұрын
great journey
@jec1ny8 ай бұрын
As an EO I am delighted by this news. You may count me firmly in the camp that believes 90% of the alleged communion separating differences between the EOs and the OOs can be attributed to poor communication and prejudice.
@randomguy14538 ай бұрын
Even if you say this, the OOs are in the wrong for denying a council with correct theology and splitting themselves off from the rest of the Church, are they not?
@The_Ballo8 ай бұрын
@@randomguy1453maybe you should ask a OO priest with open ears
@randomguy14538 ай бұрын
@@The_Ballo perhaps I should, but in my study of history this seems to be the case rather than anything else, I may if the opportunity arises nonetheless if you would do the same for EO
@BaikalTii8 ай бұрын
@@The_Ballo maybe he could explain the Coptic icons of Jesus holding up one finger, which symbolizes their claim of one nature of Christ. the doctrine of fully human and fully Devine really isn't subject to nuance.
@ThumbKnuckle8 ай бұрын
The Holy Spirit wouldn't allow a schism to exist for 1500 years over a simple language barrier. Some prominent copts have even denounced theosis as demonic even though it is clearly exposited by Saint Athanasius.
@randomguy14538 ай бұрын
Reminder to all, both Ortho and others Strength in Numbers ≠ Truth (Lest we say Sunni Islam is true because it has more followers than the largest communion of Christians being the Roman Catholic Church)
@Paul0202538 ай бұрын
exactly, perhaps a timely reminder to all those megachurches that apparently abound in America too
@POTATOSOOPS8 ай бұрын
Sunni Islam isn't one united thing though
@randomguy14538 ай бұрын
@@POTATOSOOPS if you are to use the theological schools of Sunmi Islam as a denial of their unity, then we must also consider the theological schools of Catholicism to be an example of division in that communion, and I'm certain no catholic would allow such an accusation to be considered a just one. Sunnis consider themselves united on the key doctrine of Islam, which is to accept Muhammad as prophet and Allah as the one god, and the Shia schism over viewing the hier of Muhammad to be an additional key point in their doctrine. The reality for the situation is that Islam doesn't have as strict bounds of unity as Chrsitianity does, and so Islam is united on different a basis than us, but is united nonetheless and so fits the requirements of this argument (and if not Islam then we can also use the Arian controversy in which it is an accepted historical fact that most Christians of both laity and clergy would have affirmed the incorrect view of Christ before the Council of Nicea I in its nearly unanimous decision, save for 2 bishops, rendered its authority over both the laity and clergy, saving large swaths of Christians with an Arian Christology from their heresy.)
@Rome_778 ай бұрын
Trying to dunk on Catholics with Sunni Islam is a bit telling and a bit ironic considering Eastern Orthodoxy is overrun by the Islamic world.
@randomguy14538 ай бұрын
@@Rome_77 the fact you feel the need to run over to a separate comment of mine from the other discussion wherein I demonstrated that you are not worth speaking to about such things due to your internal biases is telling of your own insecurities (as well as you throwing the accusation back at me to no success, as I am not anti-western, I am in fact a proponent of Western Rite Orthodoxy and will be visiting a WR liturgy soon, for your information) and personal fufillment needs to point the flaws of people on the internet (ironic for your pointing to my views as a solely online affair, i do in fact attend church and do all my irl requirements of my faith, and can see the reality of the Faith, whereas you have demonstrated the opposite, being a terminally online trad cath who seeks nothing more than "gotcha" moments on those who disagree with you), as I said before, have a good day, and I will apply the same position of not throwing my pearls to swine who cannot see their value. God bless, please do not respond to any of my comments further as I will have to go through the trouble of explaining this yet again. (And also your lack of knowledge that I was in fact a westerner proves you didn't read or comprehend at least one of my responses in our earlier discussion, wherein i used my position as a westerner to prove a point, which further shows your dishonor in engaging, or rather refusing to engage, with the points I have made)
@WilliamCarterII8 ай бұрын
There's also just a lot of converts from Protestantism. My priest baptized like 2 dozen converts this year into the Coptic church. When I talk to them, they usually say that they find Protestantism to be backwards and more of political movement than a religious framework. My parish here in LA is very ethnically diverse and our liturgy is a mix of Arabic, Coptic, and English
@not_milk8 ай бұрын
By LA are you saying Louisiana or Los Angeles? I’m curious about how and where it has spread within the US.
@andrewternet83708 ай бұрын
HRC? I’m a convert at St Mark’s in LA.
@lilajagears83178 ай бұрын
I also live in L.A. and I have yet to meet a protestant who has converted except for those who have become tired of the leftist woke garbage of some "mainline protestant" churches. Evangelical protestantantism is growing rapidly, if you are from L.A. you should know that.
@dubois2.0248 ай бұрын
The Southern COC diocese is growing too. Me and 3 other adult concerts were baptized and chrismated in in the last few months. It's awesome.
@timothydean94077 ай бұрын
For an English speaker is it difficult to convert and participate in the services? I am very interested in learning more...Episcopalian all my life.
@jeffkardosjr.38258 ай бұрын
Some years ago I rented a motel room on two different occasions from a Coptic guy in New Jersey.
@SirMevan7 ай бұрын
As a Catholic, I look forward to the day where the eastern and western churches become one again. ✝️🤝☦️
@mccoyfleming66647 ай бұрын
μια μέρα, μια μέρα…
@truegravee7 ай бұрын
As soon as the west abandons their Heresy And joins the true church
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr3 ай бұрын
You'll be waiting forever. You're waiting for the Pope to say he's not infallible?
@thiloyoung54848 ай бұрын
You may need to look at immigration numbers from Egypt to get a more complete picture. And the question of those who convert in order to marry vs “study-in” conversions. The dynamics are perhaps more complex than the limited data being used suggests.
@AP_847 ай бұрын
I am Armenian who was baptized in the Armenian Apostolic Church, however I tend to visit eastern orthodoxy churches because the AAC's outreach program is virtually non-existent. On top of that the services they conduct such as the liturgy is mostly in Armenian and I have hardly ever heard a service in English. They speak in a dialect of Armenian that I cannot understand and it is partly ancient. This is probably why they never get an increase in attendance and I fear that if they don't change with the times they will not be around. And I am talking about churches in SoCal with huge populations and churches everywhere.
@blade75064 ай бұрын
there are plenty of coptic churches you can commune with in your region
@SlavaBozhe7 ай бұрын
YES. YYEEESSSSS
@victormargulius6327 ай бұрын
Guys, idk what Is happening, but I as a Lutheran am learning about orthodoxy
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr3 ай бұрын
People probably should have just become Orthodox to get away from Catholicism, not started protestantism.
@RonaldSeese-sx4ow8 ай бұрын
Very interesting! I’m Antiochian Orthodox and I’m aware that some Copts attended my parish before they got their parish going, years ago before I began attending. My understanding is the Antiochian patriarchate is in communion with the Coptic church. I believe it’s the only Eastern Orthodox Church in communion with the Copts.
@MrWesford8 ай бұрын
We are definitely not in communion with the Monophysites. They would not be allowed to commune with us and we would be excommunicated for communing with them.
@nathanjohnwade22898 ай бұрын
@@MrWesfordstop with the slander.! Get to know your facts right before becoming a troll!
@milagroman757 ай бұрын
No Oriental Orthodox Church is in communion with any Eastern Orthodox Church. You are likely misunderstanding the Patriarchate of Alexandria as the Coptic Church. Same nation, different churches.
@RonaldSeese-sx4ow7 ай бұрын
I don’t think I’m mistaken. In Antiochian Orthodox we have official limited intercommunion. The dire circumstances of Christians in Syria have provoked great cooperation. They really were Copts that were openly communed at my parish before they got their own parish going. Look into the Orthodox joint commission. This might not apply as much to parishes in North America, I think it depends on the Bishop, but it definitely does apply in some places. orthodoxjointcommission.wordpress.com/2013/12/23/unity-in-antioch/
@TexaSurvival7 ай бұрын
This nonsense right here is why I will forever firmly remain Catholic. The dissension right here breeds further separation and isolates rather than have one episcopally elected head helping to mend divisions. Orthodoxy has valid Sacraments and means well but is a victim of the blind leading the blind.
@PastorChrisRN8 ай бұрын
In addition to growth by immigration I also wonder about growth from former Protestants. I get more of a sense that Protestant churches are abandoning their roots in the historic Christian faith. Many Evangelical Protestants in the US think of Christianity as merely a set of doctrinal statements. There is little concern to be connected to Christians through the world and throughout history. I wonder if people are becoming more dissatisfied with the individualism in American Christianity and are looking for deeper connections.
@bobbiefluffy8 ай бұрын
Former presbyterian here, God spoke to my heart and called me home the moment I stepped into a Greek Orthodox Church in Phoenix, AZ. The beauty, the engagement of every one of the senses, and the theology embedded into every action and detail is truly the life abundant that Christ promised us.
@TexaSurvival7 ай бұрын
I think you make a good point but I’ll add that in the most simplistic sense, with no offense intended, the evangelicals are filtering out more and more history and bears zero tradition, it’s been diluted down to simple feel good entertainment with no substance and certainly no sacrifice and therefore no real worship. I’m RC, not EO, and still 100% believe the the RC is more valid but the distinction for me is something like 51%-49% so it’s a net positive when people find themselves in the presence of valid Sacraments.
@blindside587 ай бұрын
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on us.
@forthosewitheyestosee81837 ай бұрын
Yes, the entire church is 100% apostate. Without Gods mercy, no one would be saved. Thankfully, God will save a few. And the few God saves have nothing to do with anything known as the church.
@impasse01248 ай бұрын
I’m Catholic and while I don’t know what our numbers look like, I do read a lot online about former Protestants converting to either Catholicism or Orthodoxy when they discover the richness of the faiths. I know we have our differences, but I do have a lot of respect for the Orthodox Churches as well.
@ryrocks94878 ай бұрын
Many are converting from Catholicism as well.
@Isphanian7 ай бұрын
and many, like me, reverting from ortho to the True Faith@@ryrocks9487
@PatriotSFV15 ай бұрын
There are more protestants in the U.S than in any other country.
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr3 ай бұрын
And there are plenty leaving to become protestants.
@thatsnodildo19748 ай бұрын
I became Orthodox after a long time away from God. I come from a Protestant so i inivted family to my baptisim and my mom was proud of me and loved the service will she convert? Probably not but she will attend liturgy with me
@Jeremiah-pu5vp3 ай бұрын
Praying matters more than convincing, and if you want to convert others work first on purification. You can help your brother and sister when you see clearly.
@user-bl2bd7jh8fАй бұрын
good
@chedelirio69847 ай бұрын
So what we're seeing is that the longer-established Orthodox churches, as their communities become more rooted in America, begin to experience the same erosion as the mainstream Protestant churches, while there are those among the Oriental Orthodox that are boosted by a still active immigrant movement -- notice the high growth of the African-based ones, mostly immigrant in the last generation, vs. the Armenian, here for a hundred years.
@one_step_sideways7 ай бұрын
The Russian Orthodox churches are also there for 100 years. It's evident that it's not the same reason as with protestantism. And no, ROCOR is not exactly as widespread as it could have been, mostly because Russians didn't simply migrate to the US, they migrated everywhere outside the Russian Empire.
@valerieprice17458 ай бұрын
I switched to the Greek Orthodox.
@intergalactichumanempire97598 ай бұрын
Strange to see the Oriental Orthodox of all people growing in popularity. I wonder if their view of Christ’s natures will start to spread to other churches.
@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz8 ай бұрын
Better than the nestorianism preached at evangelical and baptist circles
@dr.alfredol.didierphd.11588 ай бұрын
I disagree with that comment NO nestorianism preached at our BAPTIST church Sir. Nestorianism: Originally, Nestorianism envisaged the divine Word as having associated with itself at the Incarnation a complete, independently existing man. From the orthodox point of view, Nestorianism therefore denied the reality of the Incarnation and represented Christ as a God-inspired man rather than as God-made-man. We do not teach this if a Baptist church is teaching this then it is not Baptist , may the Father , The Son and The Holy Spirit be with You!@@VincenzoRutiglianoDiaz
@MaximusAugustusOrthodox8 ай бұрын
These are heretical and contradictory teachings. The Eastern Orthodox Church is the true Church of Christ and is theologically perfect ❤️☦️
@ElasticGiraffe8 ай бұрын
Reformed theology certainly has a Nestorian problem with respect to their Calvinistic insistence on penal substitution theory, wherein either the Logos had to depart from Jesus on the cross or else the Trinity would've been divided. (On the other hand, Lutheranism might have a monophysite problem with some peculiar conclusions drawn from the communicatio idiomatum.) It goes too far to say the Evangelical aversion to Theotokos language is "Nestorian" in and of itself, but I understand why many Orthodox and Roman Catholics would raise an eyebrow.
Orthodox churches involve much Mystery, Holy Mystery. :+ )
@cjaoun232408 ай бұрын
You should make a video about Eastern Catholic churches in the US
@gregcoogan82708 ай бұрын
why? They are not Orthodox.
@cjaoun232408 ай бұрын
@@gregcoogan8270 I know they aren't orthodox, I want him to make a separate video about them
@christinashaw18597 ай бұрын
I think that’s a good idea! The eastern Catholic churches tend to get forgotten. Whenever I see the word Catholic as a denomination, it usually has “Roman” in front of it, so I guess most people don’t know about Eastern Catholics. 🙂
@johncastaldo86357 ай бұрын
I'd like to see him do a video with Father Casey Cole @breakinginthehabit
@cjaoun232407 ай бұрын
@@johncastaldo8635 the ultimate collab
@Oldparson2208 ай бұрын
Many evangelicals are attracted to the clarity of doctrine and mysticism of worship. Roman Catholics are attracted because of the very same reasons
@davidjanbaz77287 ай бұрын
I am Evangelical and put off by their : lack of Christian love as they keep calling me a heretic! NO , Thanks!
@MaximusAugustusOrthodox8 ай бұрын
Glory to Christ and his one true Holy Apostolic and Catholic Church - the Eastern Orthodox Church ☦️
@wheatandtares-xk4lp8 ай бұрын
Remember, Oriential Orthodox are less Eastern Orthodox than Roman Catholics are ;)
@cinemint8 ай бұрын
@@wheatandtares-xk4lp which is true and very confusing
@levitatingpotato1098 ай бұрын
@@wheatandtares-xk4lpwhile this may be true, holding even one heresy cuts you off from the body of christ.
@wheatandtares-xk4lp8 ай бұрын
@@levitatingpotato109 That's not true at all. Not sure who taught you that but that's totally wrong. Misunderstanding God through no fault of your own does not condemn by itself.
@levitatingpotato1098 ай бұрын
@@wheatandtares-xk4lp it is your fault if you are shown the truth and deny it.
@stphnmrrs39827 ай бұрын
Could you do a video on Eastern Protestantism? I.e Protestant churches born out of the Eastern/Oriental orthodox tradition.
@jeremyplante39047 ай бұрын
When everything is new, the old shines brighter.
@bloozism8 ай бұрын
I hope Orthodoxy grows in Texas. There are no churches anywhere near me to attend
@Dave-hc8xn7 ай бұрын
There are many Armenian and Coptic Orthodox Churches in Texas
@benjami43597 ай бұрын
Please search on google map coptic or Greek orthodox church on google map it will pop out
@benjaminslayton433528 күн бұрын
I am a convert to Orthodox Christianity, and I have been seeing a lot of growth in Orthodox churches, just in the last 4 years. There was moderate growth before, but it really began to take off 3-4 years ago. I can imagine people leaving the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese and going to another jurisdiction, like the OCA or ROCOR, but I don't think the number of Eastern Orthodox Christians is going down. I hope I'm not wrong. Anyway, the OCA church in Greenville, SC baptized more than 30 people right before Pascha (Orthodox Easter). The Greek Orthodox parish in town seems to be stable. I think they've lost a few people to other Orthodox churches, but their population is slowly growing as far as I can tell. I wouldn't be surprised if demographic changes have something to do with the changing numbers of adherents to different faiths. Since the end of Communism fewer people have moved to America from eastern Europe, and I think more people are moving to America from the Middle East. That will bring some Greek Orthodox, but also more Oriental Orthodox.
@JacobAlexander10007 ай бұрын
Indian Orthodox too
@colinsmith12887 ай бұрын
A lot of the evangelical churches are superficial. People wanting to re connect with God want something more deeper and spiritual that speaks to their souls not just their senses. There is a beautiful grace in orthodoxy.
@theodoreperkoski19518 ай бұрын
Well when you have the witness of the Coptic Martyrs of Libya, what is to be expected
@kuroazrem53768 ай бұрын
Where can I get the whole census?
@reyinfante55537 ай бұрын
One big lesson to learn is not to modernize as that will be the start of the decline. I am a Roman Catholic but I prefer to go to the Latin Mass if time permits as it is still a mission church here meaning that their last Sunday Mass is at 9AM. There was a major reconciliation efforts between the Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church but it has fallen apart when Vatican II started.
@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed7 ай бұрын
Both orthodoxy and catholicism are just sisters of the same false, manmade, Godless religion of scientism. Orthodoxy, catholicism, protestantism, are all false manmade Godless cults (sisters) that all belong to the one world religion of scientism. The actual Christianity of the Bible has nothing whatsoever to do with anything called or known as the church.
@yungjethro72488 ай бұрын
Catechumen in the Eastern Orthodox church in Alabama. Our small mission has quadrupled in size in the past year. Praise God his church is spreading where protestantism has fractured into primarily non denom churches.
@anthonybarnes19038 ай бұрын
I don’t even call them “non-denominational” anymore. I prefer to call then “neo baptist/pentecostal”, depending upon their pastor’s opinion about tongues.
@ChipmunkGuyGamerGaming8 ай бұрын
The True Church will prevail
@mccoyfleming66647 ай бұрын
Question for the Ethiopians/Eritreans! I attend a Greek Orthodox church, but unfortunately it’s 500km from home. There is an Ethiopian Orthodox church in my hometown, and I believe in miaphysitism. Is there much difference in our worship? Where would I get the white headcloth? Is there anything I should look out for?
@biniam_hailu7 ай бұрын
Just go there ask anybody you meet and they will tell you where to get the headcloth, it's called 'netela' in Amharic. It is not mandatory for men. May God bless you.
@mccoyfleming66647 ай бұрын
@@biniam_hailu ο Θεός να ευλογεί
@sarayosef72787 ай бұрын
there is big difference between us. We are different by Dogma. So, please go to ask. Ethiopia/Eritreans church.
@sunsett213 ай бұрын
The main difference is in the nature of Christ but you've mentioned in believing in Miaphysitisim so its ok. Other than that there's going to be a language and cultural difference. Most parishes use Ge'ez, an ancient language of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church so that might be difficult to understand. But there are some Ethiopian churches that give services in english. A recent one that was planted was the SPOT Church (Saint Paul Orthodox Tewahedo Church). They give services and Liturgy in English. You can look up the Church. Another thing that you might find diffrent is that the use of instruments mentioned in the old testament like drums, harp of David, flute.. during singing hymns. (Ethiopia accepted belief in one God and become jewish and later on converted to Christianity. So you'll find some jewish customs. You can read more about this if ur interested.) And aboit the white head covering, it is worn by both men and women. The difference is that the women cover their hair with it but the men don't. U can look at some Ethiopian Liturgy Videos to see how it's worn or u can ask an Ethiopian.
@sunsett213 ай бұрын
The main difference is in the nature of Christ but you've mentioned in believing in Miaphysitisim so its ok. Other than that there's going to be a language and cultural difference. Most parishes use Ge'ez, an ancient language of the Ethiopian Orthodox Church so that might be difficult to understand. But there are some Ethiopian churches that give services in english. A recent one that was planted was the SPOT Church (Saint Paul Orthodox Tewahedo Church). They give services and Liturgy in English. You can look up the Church. Another thing that you might find diffrent is that the use of instruments mentioned in the old testament like drums, harp of David, flute.. during singing hymns. (Ethiopia accepted belief in one God and become jewish and later on converted to Christianity. So you'll find some jewish customs. You can read more about this if ur interested.) And aboit the white head covering, it is worn by both men and women. The difference is that the women cover their hair with it but the men don't. U can look at some Ethiopian Liturgy Videos to see how it's worn or u can ask an Ethiopian.
@DeusVivit7 ай бұрын
I am Coptic Orthodox, I am a white American with no connection to the Coptic Church. Florida has a HUGE growth of Coptic Churches which is amazing to me. I always am happy to see when we have more parishes crop up! Edit: As a convert, I want to state I have NEVER felt like an outsider. I prefer the Arabic liturgy despite not being able to speak it. I am not a fan of the Coptic American style that Abouna Messah has and a lot of people I know have an issue with him being more "protestant" but he adheres to the Coptic theology just fine, I think people are just a bit standoffish about the style he has.
@one_step_sideways7 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Coptic Orthodox are not Orthodox. You can only pick one, either you're coptic (a monophysite) or you're Orthodox. So you should learn more about Orthodoxy and the church history, and read more of the teachings of the holy fathers.
@phillipmargrave7 ай бұрын
What made you want join the Coptic church? I was raised Protestant but I’m currently not attending any church. The southern US is dominated by Baptists, Methodists, and Pentecostals and some non denominational churches. I’ve always disliked how empty and bare their churches look and feel; and their Protestant church culture is more like a social club than being about worshipping God and following the example of Christ. Just mention Matthew 25: 31-46 to a Protestant and they will immediately quote “by grace are ye saved, through faith, not of works lest any man should boast” by Paul. That’s what so many Evangelicals don’t get, Paul did say that but he didn’t mean how Protestant preach it today. Paul completely lived for Christ after his conversion traveling the world spreading the gospel and telling the churches to follow the commands of Christ. They only preach salvation through faith but Christ himself said you have to back up your faith by following the commands of Christ or he will spew you out like lukewarm water on the day of judgement. I’ve not joined the Catholic Church and will not join any church that calls it’s ministers and preachers by the title Father because God and Jesus said not to call any man father because God is the Father. I won’t join any church that prays to saints because Jesus taught us to pray to God directly and to pray to God in the name of Jesus and to do the work of God in Jesus’s name like laying hands on the sick and casting out unclean spirits. He told his disciples “do this in my name.” I want to join a church but I’m not going to join a church that does anything against the direction of Jesus Christ, so I want to know your theological reason for joining the Coptic church.
@dr.banoub92337 ай бұрын
@@one_step_sideways You need to catch up with Christology. According to *_The Editors of Encyclopaedia Britannica:_* The churches that until the mid-20th century had been traditionally classified as monophysite, those of the so-called Oriental Orthodox communion, have always disputed the label, preferring the term miaphysite (from the Greek mia, “single,” and physis, “nature”) to identify their shared view that both divinity and humanity are equally present within a single nature in the person of Christ and describing their traditions as “non-Chalcedonian.” These Oriental Orthodox churches-the Armenian Apostolic Church, the Coptic Orthodox Church of Alexandria, the Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church, the Syriac Orthodox Partriachate of Antioch and All the East, the Malankara Syrian Orthodox Church, and the Eritrean Orthodox Tewahedo Church- *_have since resolved almost all of their Christological disputes with the Roman Catholic Church, the major Protestant churches, and Eastern Orthodoxy and have been generally accepted by those traditions as essentially orthodox in their doctrine of the person of Jesus Christ._*
@one_step_sideways7 ай бұрын
@@dr.banoub9233 Encyclopedia Britannica? A secular source? Opinion discarded.
@Dave-hc8xn7 ай бұрын
@@one_step_sideways You couldn’t be more wrong the Copts are Orthodox unlike the eastern heteredox who fell to heresy at Chalcedon
@cpalileo68357 ай бұрын
As a Roman Catholic who attends both extraordinary and ordinary forms and is feeling effects of the internal rivalry that can exist between the two, I think there is a lot that the Latin Church can learn from what this video says the Oriental Church is doing. I’m happy that the Oriental Church is growing here in the US. The Eastern lung is breathing healthily.
@ShaNaNa2427 ай бұрын
Why are you happy? They are schismatic?
@milagroman757 ай бұрын
Oriental Orthodoxy is not the Eastern lung Pope John Paul II described. They absolutely deny the Hypostatic Union which is absolutely essential to RC and EO. Their Christology is wildly different. I would argue that Oriental Orthodoxy is significantly further from Roman Catholicism than Eastern Orthodoxy is.
@lordtyrus17 ай бұрын
I'd like to know how they get these stats. I'm a Greek Orthodox convert in 2013. I moved last year and our parish is growing (albeit a small church)
@ReadyToHarvest7 ай бұрын
The Archdioceses and Patriarchates collected the statistics from their congregations and gave them to the census takers.
@KAWAZACHI7 ай бұрын
I go to a greek orthodox church and we have new parishioners every week mostly college kids!
@josephnugent30658 ай бұрын
As an American convert to Coptic Orthodoxy, this is very encouraging to hear.
@Dave-hc8xn7 ай бұрын
Welcome home,Brother
@josephnugent30657 ай бұрын
I am so gld to be home. Christ left the 99 and found me. Pray that rest of us here in America head God’s call to His one Holy Catholic Apostolic Orthodox Church!
@josephnugent30657 ай бұрын
I am so gld to be home. Christ left the 99 and found me. Pray that rest of us here in America head God’s call to His one Holy Catholic Apostolic Orthodox Church!
@MinaDKSBMSB7 ай бұрын
@@josephnugent3065the Lord richly bless you. I long for the day when we don’t have to be just called “Oriental” or “Coptic” but truly what is intended “Followers of Christ and Children of God.” Honestly, the OO preserved the One Faith and One Baptism with the blood of the martyrs, but it is not intended to be kept for the Egyptians or Syrians or Ethiopians or Malankara or Armenians only. It is for the whole world.
@Swenthorian7 ай бұрын
I'm an Atheist who likes religion, and I like this trend. There's something special about traditional services that I don't get with uninspired Jesus guitar music on a stage. Also, a lot of the mainline Protestant and even Catholic trends have become degenerate; thankfully, we can generally count on the Orthodox churches to remain steadfast in their beliefs and practices: a counterweight against the insanities of the Postmodern age.
@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed7 ай бұрын
Atheism is a religion same as all other religions. Everything known as and called the church is all 100% apostate from God and from the truth and Christianity of the Bible. Everyone in every church is in reality an atheist just like you, this is why you are not too opposed to it (the churches fake christianity). You all in reality have the very same false manmade atheist religion of scientism as your real religion. Scientism is the one world religion. It is the religion of atheists like you, as well as the real religion of everything called and known as the church. The Bibles Christianity is completely outside of everything called and known as the/a church.
@HolaBruv7 ай бұрын
Dear brother this isn’t an issue between Ideologies but a battle between life vs Death. Salvation ✝️ vs Condemnation
@AVoiceCryingInTheWildern-vt6ed7 ай бұрын
@@HolaBruv ,....If anyone has anything to do with any church, they are an atheist and are under the condemnation of God. Do you understand this?
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr3 ай бұрын
You LIKE religion? Can't get enough of those death threats, eh?
@Swenthorian3 ай бұрын
Lol, I don't like *those* sorts of religionists. XD
@fouresterofthetrees2877 ай бұрын
Our small, southern US town has an Orthodox church that was established some years ago by Episcopalians who were disgruntled by the growing liberalism in their church. Ironically, they recently purchased a church building from the Episcopal diocese, using a straw buyer, of course.
@JudithSanchez-ht6jnАй бұрын
Yes I am looking to send a contribution from Hispanic.
@stuartjones93397 ай бұрын
May Eastern Orthodoxy & Oriental Orthodoxy Grow & Expand Like Wildfire All Across North America.
@DLR19977 ай бұрын
Hallelujah
@punkrock0317 ай бұрын
Where Will you find a Eastern Orthodox Church that communes the Oriental?
@Volleyball_Chess_and_Geoguessr3 ай бұрын
nowhere?
@NikoFinn7 ай бұрын
What are those parishes?
@crunkdaconqueror7787 ай бұрын
Better this than the spreading of Mormon Temples. Keep it up Orthodox brothers, spread the true word of God ☦️
@marianredaghattas15968 ай бұрын
The script overlooked the effect of political unrest, ISIS terrorism and other terroristic organizations in Egypt between 2010 and 2020. It is a cause and effect thing on Egyptian Copts, exactly as once during the Armenian genocide. Also stressing on differences than similarities, while ignoring the fact that Coptic language is written in Greek letters and nips up Greek culture, hymns. Nice statistics however :))
@Paisios772 ай бұрын
I left Protestantism for Orthodoxy a year ago
@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp2 ай бұрын
You only when from one false church right into another much worse one. Repent!
@Paisios772 ай бұрын
@@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp thank you for your enlightening comment
@LuciferisJesus-mv9hp2 ай бұрын
@@Paisios77 ,...I presented you with the truth for your edification. I brought light into your darkness, just as Jesus (Lucifer) brought light (truth) into the Godless world/church/Israel. Orthodoxy is a 100% false, manmade, Godless abomination. Both it, and catholicism are the religions of the accursed of God. At least Protestantism has a couple of things correct.
@h.w.barlow66932 күн бұрын
@@LuciferisJesus-mv9hpProtestants like Mormons have things correct?😅
@Corpoise09747 ай бұрын
This is good news, by God's grace the Church has been fruitful in America.
@Qwerty-jy9mj8 ай бұрын
These are former Protestants that were left behind by their denominations because they went woke, liberalized their theology, sold out, went into political capture, etc. Then they realize the Church is necessarily apostolic but they can't bring themselves to become Catholic because of the lingering effects of their protestantism so they take the next best thing. This has fueled _a lot_ of the "orthobro" phenomenon online.
@levitatingpotato1098 ай бұрын
Orthodox apologists destroy every one of your catholic champions though, so how are we the next best thing? We are correct and the Alexandria document proves it.
@Qwerty-jy9mj8 ай бұрын
@@levitatingpotato109 Were you a pentacostal before?
@levitatingpotato1098 ай бұрын
@@Qwerty-jy9mj no, why?
@UnworthyBranch8 ай бұрын
☦️☦️☦️
@bobbiefluffy8 ай бұрын
These numbers don't take into consideration COVID and the large number of converts Orthodox churches have taken in since then. I hope the next survey can shed some light onto this, because the situation on the ground in many Orthodox parishes is a revitalization, not shrinkage.
@ishiftfocus17697 ай бұрын
If you want eternal life and peace, then you need to be delivered from the religious chains of sin, the law, your flesh, and the world.
@edulopb14877 ай бұрын
Oriental orthodox will grow a lot and eastern orthodox will (and is) decreasing a lot because of european low birth rate