The Guthrie Govan Charvel has a FATAL DESIGN FLAW!

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3 ай бұрын

I can't believe Guthrie Govan wanted his signature guitar like this. This is a first year GG Signature from 2014, made in the Fender USA Custom Shop, and it has one major design flaw that would make it almost completely unplayable for me.
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@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

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@fanoboss 3 ай бұрын

that input jack idea was originaly Hamer Diablo, i think ... cool guitar

@rohadtanyad8908 2 ай бұрын

the tremol-no is a great piece of gear. i have been using them for a long time. you just don't understand the setup of it.

@rohadtanyad8908 2 ай бұрын

btw, you criticized the tremol-no for some design flaws it doesn't have. that rod is on a hinge, so it moves as the tremblock moves, it keeps alignment. you assumed that it is just solid. not the case.

@nocturnal101ravenous6 2 ай бұрын

Just a heads up the reason why the Tremolo-no is binding is because some dip shit has the 3rd spring off center and when you are trying to use the Floyd the bridge isn't pivoting straight due to the tension being off center and physics functioning as it should, so it is binding the sliding shaft mechanism. Personally I think the flaw is in the fact the slide mechanism isn't in the center of the claw and block. You also need to make sure the set screws on the slide mechanism is right and not tightened at all otherwise it will bind.

@mrburns366 2 ай бұрын

The biggest flaw with my guitar is I'm not Guthrie Govan.

@xodiaq 2 ай бұрын

Me either, m’man. Me either.

@cenesq 2 ай бұрын

🤣

@jerrycrabb9234 3 ай бұрын

As my guitar gently queefs.

@harrisondvargo72 2 ай бұрын

lmaooooo

@GabeHelma 2 ай бұрын

Hahahaa!

@xodiaq 2 ай бұрын

☠️☠️☠️

@squirelova1815 Ай бұрын

I'm squeezing my cupped palms together right now reading this.

@jritechnology 3 ай бұрын

Shredding in a Cosby sweater on a parlor couch....life is good.

@TheGuitologist 2 ай бұрын

I made a joke about Jello and Roofies, but KZfaq deleted it. They have no taste in good jokes.

@hefonthefjords 3 ай бұрын

That tremol-no is not configured correctly. The claw section is unscrewed too far out of the body for it to work without the "piston" bar binding like it is there. The "piston" bar is supposed to be co-linear with the block and there is a lever joint on the connection to the bridge. If it isn't configured correctly, the mechanism will never work as intended. The idea is to be able to either hard block the bridge, or have only down whammy action on the bridge depending on which screws are tighened down. I used to have one of the earlier models of it on a Jackson RR3 many years ago. They work a treat if you set them up correctly. I'm pretty sure the "piston" bar is hardened (or used to be in the model I had) so that is doesn't get all burred up and cause excessive friction.

@Bonedadyo 3 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment. I’ve been a user of the Tremol-no since its release. I have a couple of Hamer SS models with floating Floyds and they have and still work smoothly - never had a problem.

@Schuylock 3 ай бұрын

But the claw position has everything to do with string tension. If you're setting up the trem to find the zero point (spring vs string) and keeping the plate of the trem parallel to the top of the guitar (in most cases) then the claw is going to wind up wherever it winds up. Screw in to far and the tremolo will be pulled back, to little and it's tilted forward. I've had several Tremol-No's and it's just how it is.

@hefonthefjords 3 ай бұрын

@@Schuylock You can control the claw position by adding or removing springs or using springs with a different spring tension. In this case I would first remove a spring (2 springs instead of 3) and then set the claw position. If the position is still not suitable, then it's a case of sourcing springs with appropriate tension. This is the same as selecting appropriate spring count/spring tension for the string guage & scale length of the guitar.

@hughjanus5518 3 ай бұрын

I have tremol-nos on all my floyd guitars (They also have the EVH D-tuna) and the location of the claw doesn't matter nearly as much are you're claiming here. The LTD KH-202 I have has the claw farther out like this guitar with ZERO issues and I have an arrow-401 that only has 2 springs that has the claw further in.

@hefonthefjords 2 ай бұрын

@@hughjanus5518 It matters man. No two guitars have exactly the same dimensions by nature of the fact they are made from wood. Build one for yourself and you'll see how unfrogiving dimesnions can be.

@iamjezuzchrist 3 ай бұрын

That's right... Brad was one of the first with amp vids. Not consistent, but always entertaining regardless. Thanks for being you, Brad!

@Cautionary_Tale_Harris 3 ай бұрын

I've got a Tube Depot t-shirt that says, "Revolt Against the Solid State" 😆

@nosmoking2933 3 ай бұрын

Solid State Rules.

@squirelova1815 Ай бұрын

@@nosmoking2933 Yes, so True but some folks just like being Amp-sitters for Meltdown prone Tube Diva Amps. Oh well...

@markdalton6662 3 ай бұрын

I wouldn't call it a paper weight but then again there's no way in hell I would ever pay 3700 dollars for it .

@EJH-jn6mo 3 ай бұрын

Well yea that’s why you negotiate to 3k and it’s worth every penny of that.

@jsullivan2112 3 ай бұрын

@@EJH-jn6mo I don't know of any guitar shop I've ever walked into that would knock 20% off the price tag of anything they carry. What the hell kind of negotiating are you doing?

@auntjenifer7774 2 ай бұрын

😂.I won't go and give me secrets out but I won't pay but %30-%50 retail for gear and I've found some killer deals on brand new gear. You gotta know where to look and then what to look for. 😅

@jsullivan2112 2 ай бұрын

@@auntjenifer7774 If there's the slightest thing wrong with where they knock the price down, it's not brand new.

@stevestevens1457 2 ай бұрын

@@auntjenifer7774 you should teach us bro

@triax7006 3 ай бұрын

The guitar is clearly built by Chevrolet

@guyincognito320 3 ай бұрын

Lol. I never trusted the tree-less headstock on these Govan guitars. 'It's got staggered tuners, it doesn't need a tree!' Well the nut needs to be perfectly slotted and pitched or you'll get a sitar high E string, and Charvel is not perfectionist so here's the result in this video. Too many guitars in the stupid in-between zone - not a proper Floyd, not a hardtail, so still a bunch of finnicky bullshit issues to deal with. I wish they'd top mount the tremolos like Strats have always been. Recessed bridges should only be double locking Floyds.

@SidWalter 3 ай бұрын

@@guyincognito320the staggered gotoh magnums are the same but go even further down then whatever these tuners are. So it’s possible those would solve the problem

@triax7006 3 ай бұрын

@@guyincognito320 It has got to the stage with CNC machining, higher QC control & hardware that is generally higher quality that in order for a $3.7k guitar to be justified & not just slap a persons name on it along with the brand they have to offer what cheaper guitars cannot do for the price. Clearly this guitar fails badly on all counts & is sub $1k guitar on a good day. Also the argument of "US made" is garbage, many US products manufactured are very similar in price to products made else ware. The customer is always right, they buy products based on quality & price, not who made it & where.

@guyincognito320 3 ай бұрын

@@triax7006 Yeah, I have no interest in US guitars. The draw with this Guthrie one is the stainless frets, but you could get a mint Pro Mod on Reverb for 800, or a new one for maybe 900, and re-fret it and be sitting at 1300 or so. I wish they'd just make that out of the gate, I'd happily pay for the added labor involved with the hard fret wire. The change in the guitar industry has been that the cheap ones got way better. But some of these US guitars have terribly cheap parts like this pot metal Floyd base plate. I don't really like the Guthrie setup because it's too peculiar for my tastes. He's used to it and has an intuition for it. When you buy it you'll have to do the same. There's a reason they always put a string guide on the 1 and 2 at least. It seems that 2 string guides causes tuning issues because the wound 4th string is binding with the windings. When Charvel went down to 1 string guide, it seems that people complained about tuning issues less.

@johnkohlhauff9061 3 ай бұрын

Great looking guitar. The guitar sounds amazing with you playing it!!

@mykuntstynx9463 3 ай бұрын

Man, that palm muted shredding was slick af.

@matthewf1979 3 ай бұрын

The Tremol-No should go to a D shaft with a small flat to prevent the creaking. Just needs a couple thousandths clearance on the flat. It would provide better clamping force from more surface area and thread engagement. A PTFE cylinder insert would eliminate the need for lubrication. The rod does pivot on a pin when you use the trem, keeping it in line with the cylinder. Just a couple design changes would make the thing work so much better. For what they charge, it should have been done a decade ago.

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

This guitar is 10 years old now, so maybe they’ve fixed it.

@matthewf1979 3 ай бұрын

@@TheGuitologist I didn't see any changes on the models being sold currently. Some people don't seem to have problems with them. Maybe they just need to be regularly used and lubed.

@hansemannluchter643 3 ай бұрын

OMFG, you are obsessed with a guitar being "in tune"? Go listen to some Uncle Neil!! It ain't gonna happen!

@BenBreard 3 ай бұрын

Man I wrestled a Trem-l-no for weeks trying to get the feel right with no binding. I couldn't do it. I messed with the claw a bunch like the company recommends. I failed. :( which sucks because it's a great idea.

@hansemannluchter643 3 ай бұрын

@@TheGuitologistFixed What, exactly? Uncle Neil Young never obsessed about "being in tune" did he? It's just a fact of life: A guitar can't really "be in tune".

@robertscharlow 3 ай бұрын

Step 1 - Remove the Tremol-No. Problem solved. That said, I have one on my Ibanez RG2027, without these issues. I actually know the guy who invented this, Kevan Geier. I remember when it was in development. How Guthrie tunes is likely similar to the Frauda method - tune to pitch, really go ham on the trem, then 1) tune one string, 2) dive, 3) tune back. Repeat for all strings. Strat players know this sort of thing very, very well. And the G string is the biggest culprit for tuning issues. When you bend, or use the trem, you give the trem a quick whack back down (sometimes up), and you return to perfect tune. I use a similar method for stability where I bend and pull UP on the trem, then tune. A slight pull up will always put it back in tune if it goes slightly wonky. Graphtech saddles and nut help tremendously, a perfectly filed nut slot, and something like Big Bends Nut Sauce (I use my own concoction of powdered graphite and Super Lube oil/grease mixture.)

@squirelova1815 Ай бұрын

Or, if you have Fifteen minutes to spare, you can use Carl Verheyen's string tension balancing method that slightly angles the trem 'claw' to Equalize the tension of all the strings thus making hangups far less possible or Totally disappear. My Fender Classic Series 70's strat, as my own best example, with its Floating setup only has Two trem springs attached and just CANNOT be put out of tune no matter how extreme the bar is pushed or pulled but it does have a nice SuperVee BladeRunner bridge on it. Now if the strings get really old or worn out from prolonged neglect or abuse then that may compromise the tuning some...or not. I actually can hardly believe how incredibly stable the string balancing method is BUT it is so ridiculously Obviously Logical that I was truly embarrassed that I had not thought of it myself: Big Fat strings and Thinner Little strings acting on the same bridge and springs unequally, see? "Common Sense" isn't so common though, Duh!

@robertscharlow Ай бұрын

@@squirelova1815 I use this method on my Strat as well. Works pretty good, but YMMV.

@jonathanstrand2474 3 ай бұрын

Guthrie’s PU wiring scheme is the trick, various coils combined in a very specific way, I forget the details, so he can go from country thin chicken picking, to deep jazz or even heavy metal sounds

@zappasmoustache23 3 ай бұрын

If it’s good enough for Guthrie it’s good enough for me. Now, can anyone lend me 3k?

@elevenAD 3 ай бұрын

Nuff said the end.

@rmcfee 3 ай бұрын

They make a MIM version that is killer for $1500

@drumitar 2 ай бұрын

hes not playing this model.

@zappasmoustache23 2 ай бұрын

@@drumitar I know but it was a model developed to his specifications. There’s a ton of videos on here of him talking about it. And I just think it’s a damn cool looking guitar.

@squirelova1815 Ай бұрын

Laundryman Zelinsky can spare it I'm sure.

@sizzloh 3 ай бұрын

Probably put a flat on the knife edges and posts of the trem because the bridge height was adjusted under tension.

@SaintFredrocks 2 ай бұрын

Not likely. It isn't a cheap knockoff guitar, so the steel is fine. What do you think goes on when you work a whammy hard? That is going to cause a lot more stress to the knife edge than turning the screw. It has to be under tension otherwise it is a guessing game: no thanks.

@user-ng3oi8ed8r Ай бұрын

If your trem's knife edge can't hold up to a height adjustment, it wouldn't have a prayer holding up under normal use.

@thomastucker5686 3 ай бұрын

That guitar is way over priced. We get far too excited over slabs of wood bolted together with the earliest of electrical technology and strings. I like cheap guitars that play and sound great.

@johneapleseed6876 3 ай бұрын

I disagree. If I had the money I would buy one similar in a second. Rn I'm playing an epi white bja Junior with a super distortion in it. Amazing guitar.... but I like gun oil custom shop stats. That's what I need but with an oxblood body plz. Birdseye oil neck. Single ceramic pickup with a speed knob and a Killswitch. Obviously with the tortoise shell guard. I'll put my name on it too in gold leaf. All Gold hardware

@johneapleseed6876 3 ай бұрын

No disrespect

@georgeestremera1464 3 ай бұрын

You have no idea what it costs to produce the guitar. How are you assessing that it’s over-priced? You have no idea how much R&D went into designing it. The pickups and trem were designed specifically for this guitar. That takes time and money

@thomastucker5686 3 ай бұрын

@@georgeestremera1464 you don't know me or what ideas I have or not. I have conducted R&D as an engineer. Please don't try to explain to me engineering costs or anything business related. Solid body guitars are not as special as some wish.

@georgeestremera1464 3 ай бұрын

You couldn’t possibly know what this specific guitar cost to develop unless you’re an FMIC employee or worked directly with Chip Ellis, Michael Frank Braun, and Guthrie. You might have opinions and ideas, but that’s a guess at best.

@dagwood8409 2 ай бұрын

The tremel-no is not setup correctly. I've set one up before and it's a tedious task to get it setup correctly. As for the lack of fine tuners, the original floyd did not have them and Guthrie has said that they get in the way when he's playing.

@jerryhatrick5860 3 ай бұрын

Imagine the killer low cost guitars one can buy with 3700. And only have to change pickups sometimes. And do a fret setup sometimes.

@charliemurphypipe 20 күн бұрын

AND have SEVERAL sushi dinners!

@jamieferguson3338 3 ай бұрын

Saw a guy use a sliding door latch as a tremelo block before....genius and cheap!

@hazepheno925 3 ай бұрын

The Guitologist and Uncle Doug are OGs

@noire1991 2 ай бұрын

You don’t adjust the height of a floating bridge with the springs and strings fully tensioned. You will break the floating bolts. You can tell me all you want you have done it your whole life like that, and I’ll refute that argument with what my coworker told our foreman “that just means you have been doing this wrong your whole life”

@TheGuitologist 2 ай бұрын

This is not something that will be done a lot, you know, adjusting the height of the bridge. Kind of a one and done thing. A couple turns isn't going to hurt anything. You need to be able to check the actual string height and check the bends at full string tension, so it's either detune, turn the screws, tune back up, check, detune again, turn the screws again, tune back up again, etc. etc. etc. Or just turn the screws and be done with it.

@SaintFredrocks 2 ай бұрын

So has Ibanez, and they make a hell of a guitar. How are you going to accurately adjust the guitar if you don't do it under tension? The steel will take it just fine. BTW tonewoods don't make a difference in an electric guitar either.

@michael1 Ай бұрын

@@TheGuitologist It's certainly not something anyone is likely to ask you to do very often. If people pay you to work on their guitars I'd stop filming yourself doing it.

@michael1 Ай бұрын

@@SaintFredrocks There's a pretty obvious way of temporarily removing tension. You don't have to remove the springs or anything.

@SaintFredrocks Ай бұрын

@@michael1 Pretty obvious huh? Please share oh annoying one.🥱

@kazkylheku1221 2 ай бұрын

Guitologist, why would you "sight down the neck" of all your guitars, if you can just fret the string in two places to use as a straight edge? And then slide a guitar pick between the string and a fret, as a thickness gauge? If the string just holds a 0.6 mm pick, it's a good relief. (And that is all that a 0.6 mm pick is good for and the only reason to have one.)

@kindisc 3 ай бұрын

you don't need a straight edge because a fresh string, under tension is perfectly straight. you're sighting the neck relative to the strings.

@MitchHaman 3 ай бұрын

I had a tremol no in a Ibanez Prestige RG652. With the push of one of those buttons, it could, jush push down only on the trem, completely floating or completely locked. It worked. I just never was good at playing with a Floyd Rose type bridge. By the way Brad, I love the way you play guitar. Absolutely awesome.👍👍👍👍

@traceyelliot8571 3 ай бұрын

thanks youtube for once again not notifying me 🤬😡

@Jeremya74 3 ай бұрын

They know your a conspiracy theorist 😂

@ebikes2xs159 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sighting down the neck from the headstock to the bridge. Don't know how many experts have told me to sight from the bridge to the headstock. That absolutely doesn't work for me.

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

Can’t see shit that way.

@user-en3dh8cg7u 3 ай бұрын

Setting the intonation on an electric guitar is over obsessed. When playing (especially in a live performance), finger pressure varies with “emotion” and can vary significantly. A simple ‘close enough’ is sufficient. Any resultant deviation can be adjusted by experience with the particular instrument. Experienced players will naturally compensate for such expected issues. The bottom line: Get to know your instrument and realize that playing “in tune” comes with experience. btw: starting with an instrument that’s well tuned is imperative and seemingly overlooked by thousands in this day and age of low cost electronic tuners.

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

Yep.

@Mcfly0856 3 ай бұрын

They come with shims to get that shaft at the right pitch to where it doesn't make noise, I messed with one awhile back and ended up removing it...

@JalenRawley 3 ай бұрын

The Tremol-No is great if you need to tune to drop D real quick. I think a D-Tuna is a little easier but they're both just compromises to not have to bring another guitar to a gig, which I'm all in favor of. I had to bring five guitars to a show for a band I was in and that got old -real- fast.

@KyleP133 2 ай бұрын

D Tuna doesnt work on a bridge that floats. That's the entire purpose of the tremol-no - to allow the trem to go from floating to dive only to fixed with the twist of a few knobs.

@JalenRawley 2 ай бұрын

@@KyleP133 Quite correct, a very important point. A floating bridge requires balanced tension to remain floating, tuning the E to a D, no matter how you do it, will change the tension on one side of the equation.

@eduardoprieto5267 2 ай бұрын

Impressive no pick and no finger nail playing, i thought that i was alone in the planet. Well done carnal (brother).God bless everyone of my rockin friends.

@kevin11007 3 ай бұрын

i have tremolno in all my guitars and they all work great

@BarDog57 3 ай бұрын

Fun fact: You can drop a string on a Bigsby or Vibrola without the rest going out of tune.

@imeqsmd Ай бұрын

I wonder if that massive big brass block is original to the trem on this guitar? If the height of the block where the springs attach to is incorrect this will also cause the same issue

@fuzzymuppet1990 3 ай бұрын

You are definitely right about intonation and the playing position crap.. but definitely tune a guitar with floyd and locking nut in playing playing position, before tighting the nut down

@guybuddy1 3 ай бұрын

A better way to check how much relief you have is to hold down the 1st and 19th(approx) fret then tap the string around the 9th, it's a much more accurate way of checking the neck bow.

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

That works very well too. I've just always used the gun sight method.

@guybuddy1 3 ай бұрын

@@TheGuitologist Fair enough👍

@craighamley3669 3 ай бұрын

I have a harder time sighting neck relief on compound radius necks, so I sometimes use both methods, and I also have a set of notched straight edges for Gibbys, Fenders, and PRS, and even one for short and long scale bass guitars. Whatever it takes for my old eyes to get an accurate, repeatable measurement, I guess.

@Cautionary_Tale_Harris 3 ай бұрын

@@craighamley3669 I have ordered a notched straight edge for myself that should arrive tomorrow...I understand what you're saying!

@iggymcgeek730 3 ай бұрын

No it isn't.

@diarrhea_splatter 3 ай бұрын

Man, these old school intros make me feel like I'm popping in a VHS copy of Goonies or Short Circuit.

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

Shoutout to Richard for this one.

@diarrhea_splatter 3 ай бұрын

@@TheGuitologist Love the retro intros 👍

@EJH-jn6mo 3 ай бұрын

I own one and the stability is amazing so not sure what you’re doing wrong on the tremelno

@jsullivan2112 3 ай бұрын

Uncle Doug is the man! He makes things SO easy to understand with his analogies. Rip Rusty. Btw the Golan-Globus mock-up cracked me up at the beginning. Flashback to Delta Force and American Ninja in the 80s, love it!

@markinthemix6055 3 ай бұрын

I seriously wonder if the guitar really left the factory this way 🤔 in my many years of buying and fussing about with guitars l have been known to do the wrong things as far as trying to adjust my guitar throughout the year and season changes. This guitar has a roasted neck and even a graphite reinforced neck. Really really shouldn’t move under sensible use, travel and play. I have MANY roasted wood guitars that I travel with every week and they are extremely good and stable.

@guyincognito320 3 ай бұрын

All Charvel necks sprout in winter, the roasted ones specifically. 'This is carmelized maple, which I guess means roasted, and it's got carbon rods so this baby isn't going anywhere!' - every review ever. It goes somewhere. You have to file off the fret tangs in January.

@paulj0557tonehead 2 ай бұрын

You should make a fake US Quarter with a screw and two way tape it on there, and say, " Here, fixed it!"

@brpadington 3 ай бұрын

I have an old 90s Jackson Kelly that I have been working on. I swapped the neck and have been having issues with getting it in lower tunings. This video was a lot of help. It also convinced me not to bother getting a tremel-no since it seems even more annoying than a floyd already is.

@charliemurphypipe 21 күн бұрын

"in between weeks" another title word gem, one of the things that make your videos entertaining. Thanks for your hard work!

@hughjanus5518 3 ай бұрын

I have the temol-no on both of my floyd equiped guitars and its a floyd must IMO. It helps when you're doing bends with one string while holding the other so the bridge doesnt lift, biggest reason I use them is in conjunction with the EVH D-tuna, otherwise when utilizing it and dropping tuning on the low E the other 5 strings would go sharp. Thats not why its been utilized here but IMO are a must with any full floating tremolo. Another guy lower says this one isnt set-up correctly yet this is how one of my guitars has it set-up.

@alanparker2792 3 ай бұрын

Thanks

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

Thanks a ton, Alan! You're awesome.

@malungtvnews 2 ай бұрын

I love your guitar playing style

@derangedhermit2879 3 ай бұрын

I was pondering the logic of why odd thumb wheeled things rear bridge access wasn’t centered but was offset, & I’d noticed Guthrie’s guitar had the trem lock in the center spring hole of the rear of the bridge, while your neighbors guitar had it set up the second treble side spring hole?… 🕳️

@peachmelba1000 Ай бұрын

Additionally, for bolt-ons, I always check that the neck bolts are properly tight before adjusting the truss rod.

@GuitarIv69 2 ай бұрын

Brad PLEASE loosen the strings before you adjust the height on a Floyd style bridge... if you turn the posts under tension you're wearing out the edges of the trem killing the tuning stability! 😢

@TheGuitologist 2 ай бұрын

It's true you shouldn't do that too much. But if you don't adjust the height under tension, how can you know if you've gone far enough other than trial and error? You have to detune the guitar, turn the height adjustment screws, retune, test, and repeat. Very tedious and for little or no reason. For minor and occasional adjustments, it's ok. This is another example why I hate these internet age hard and fast rules everyone comes up with all the time. They're not very productive.

@Claude77 2 ай бұрын

Modern floyd rose are made of softer materials then they where way back, don't think the tuning unstablelity you are experiencing is not the tremolo no but warn out knife edges on the floyd, never turn the studs with sting tension.

@kimkelley9269 3 ай бұрын

I love my USA Guthrie Govan! I consider it my desert island guitar; the neck and the fretwork are beautiful! I have no use for the Tremol-No, so that's never been a worry. It feels so good in the hand and sounds so good.

@noahporter4487 2 ай бұрын

Those tremel-nos have a side adjustment at the block that you could probably adjust. My experience has been that they're always pushed so far to one side to line up with the hole that they need to redesign the whole thing.

@DOWNFROMTHESKY-ln1ek 3 ай бұрын

i changed the gauge of strings on my ibanez prestige 7 string guitar.i removed one of the 4 springs and turned the claw screws about a half a turn in . the floyd is flat and the guitar plays perfect so you can change string gauge on a floyd if your patient enough to keep tuning the guitar for 20 minutes straight until the floyd settles i went from 11s to 9s thanx nice video

@sgtcaco 3 ай бұрын

You don’t need to let the trek settle, most people waste a lot of time setting up Floyd’s, I want go into detail but with the right equipment like wedges etc.. it is a simple task.

@Schuylock 3 ай бұрын

On an Ibanez Prestige? What model tremolo is on it?

@DOWNFROMTHESKY-ln1ek 3 ай бұрын

@@Schuylock hi its a floyd rose

@Schuylock 3 ай бұрын

@@DOWNFROMTHESKY-ln1ek Interesting. I figured most Ibby Prestige models came with some form of an Edge trem. What model do you have exactly?

@DOWNFROMTHESKY-ln1ek 3 ай бұрын

@@Schuylock its an ibanez prestige rg 1527

@frishdaw 2 ай бұрын

Never heard you play before, nice chops man you sound great!

@drhairy 3 ай бұрын

The face of the tremol-no’s spring claw has to be really close to perfectly parallel to the tremolo block, otherwise the shaft/sleeve will bind and be noisy when using the trem.

@jamescooper5372 3 ай бұрын

I had one of the trem locks on one mine of my guitars. I also thought it was junk I took it off and threw it away !

@rustyrobinson8027 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info 👍🇺🇸

@soylentkris 2 ай бұрын

I will comment that having the guitar laying flat with the neck in a neck rest is more than likely introducing more forward bow than in playing position, which could affect both action and intonation.

@stevenkatien3292 2 ай бұрын

Not sure if you found this, but the shaft on many of the Tremelo-no units needs to be sanded down to slide better. Did that on both of mine, and perfect since.

@matthewotremba9230 3 ай бұрын

I mount my boat jacks upside down , a 90 ° Jack into And the wire just falls into the strap button area thru the strap end like it Wants TO be there No loop

@bobpedone6168 2 ай бұрын

Easy way to check the intonation position question.....just check it on a good strobe tuner. I think you will be surprised what you find. If it needs to be measured with a strobe tuner those minute distances do matter in the overall scheme of things. I agree with your theory about trying new techniques on guitars. Everyone starts somewhere you just need the confidence and common sense to know when to back off if you get in too deep. well done!

@mcmentalmusicmakers3219 3 ай бұрын

Brad the noise that made I imagined running into a Blues breaker and wondering if the squeak or the note would be clearer

@dgemstate5422 3 ай бұрын

Great video, Brad. Keep up the good work!

@CRAZYCANUCKTV 3 ай бұрын

One of those bars they used for Floyd Rose would likely work the best over string trees

@justincase6151 3 ай бұрын

Similarly, I have an EVH USA Wolfgang with D-Tuna. I many issues with the D-Tuna not staying in tune when switching between standard and drop D. I just leave it in drop D all the time. I use other guitars instead for standard tuning.

@onekillerb 3 ай бұрын

I have a GG model I took off the no tremolo set up and put on a tremolo switch FZG Tremolo Switch it frees up the Gotoh bridge and feels better all around doesn't make it a hardtail but can do different tuning Guthrie wanted the non fine tuning bridge because he had no use for the locking nut he said in so interviews that it bother his hands when he would play in the lower register and sometimes it would cut his hand . So the custom shop came up with a happy medium

@peterstephen1562 3 ай бұрын

Here's a wee gem for Brad and y'all. If one is adjusting intonation by comparing harmonic to fretted note go further up thañ the 12th. to th19th. or 24th. In the case of this guitar. The need for saddle intonation stems from the strings stiffness causing the vibrating length to be a little shorter than the stopped length. That shortening remains the same no matter wihich f ret is played but as the string is shortened ( higher fret ) the shortening from stiffness becomes a greater proportion of the length so the notes go sharp. So it's easier to detect errors higher up the neck.

@UKDrew 3 ай бұрын

Awesome as Always Another really cool vid Thankyou

@dagger21detroit58 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@hobertgordon7465 3 ай бұрын

The two knobs together lock the tremolo and make it a fixed bridge, then you can unlock it and use the tremolo, also makes string changes easier

@eduardoprieto5267 2 ай бұрын

Lack of expertise.

@jfo3000 3 ай бұрын

He said he tightens the screw before tuning to drop D so he only has to tune one string. Which you deduced correctly. But any noise like that TremoloNo is creating will come through the amp, and the associated grinding will also cause the Floyd to hang up with tuning issues most likely.

@elvisbullets7382 Ай бұрын

Enjoyed the whole video, especially your playing and the sound is great.

@danielgrubb9496 3 ай бұрын

I think intonation should be set in playing position due to how you actually fret and apply pressure to the string, nothing to do with the scale length mid point.. You are 100% correct the distance is the same and the effect of gravity on relief is negligible. I am very picky about intonation and wouldnt want someone else to set it for me.. I dial it, in the playing position so that I play as in tune as possible given my unique variables haha. You do you brother!

@russoloco1662 3 ай бұрын

Got to hand it to you Brad, your Knopfler technique is on point.

@Theweeze100 3 ай бұрын

Thanks again Brad!

@rmcfee 3 ай бұрын

Tremol Nos work great if you install them right and actually take the time to understand it.

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

At some point, I can tell exactly when some f-tard has made a critical forum post.

@jimdevries9479 3 ай бұрын

My 95 has a Wilkinson trem and it’s dead quiet

@mystiquesquared 3 ай бұрын

Tip: Creamed Shaft: Oiled

@MeAndTheBoys_ 3 ай бұрын

Now boy, let me handle it. Yeah that's right boy,...that shaft is right on, feels real good.

@mr.smithgnrsmith7808 3 ай бұрын

Your mom is a pro

@multishit6664 3 ай бұрын

Wood: Hand Rubbed

@208414 3 ай бұрын

I used to want one of those Temol-no gadgets, but it just seems like they are too finicky to get setup right. GG probably has a tech tweaking it and maintaining his before every gig. I've seen comments from guitar technicians on the forums saying that they are commonly asked to remove these from guitars because they just don't work well for most people.

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

A mechanic will tell you metal on metal creates wear. The screws cause burrs on the shaft, which in turn causes sticking of that piston/cylinder arrangement.

@leftpastsaturn67 2 ай бұрын

"I don't know what these are called..." It's written right there on the very thing that you're looking straight at and talking about, in large letters.

@rogervanleeuwen9989 3 ай бұрын

Great sound.

@khillsy4489 2 ай бұрын

Why didn't you back the strings off while adjusting the truss rod or bridge?

@kimballormsby9908 3 ай бұрын

I get that all the time, too. I'm with you about the position of the guitar when setting the intonation. I also can't see how it would affect tuning, either.

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

It will affect tuning, just not intonation

@frtlzr_official Ай бұрын

Awesome !!!

@mcmentalmusicmakers3219 3 ай бұрын

What I thought he was saying that he’s using in drop D locking so he doesn’t need to tune all strings when he drops and comes back up to pitch

@JohnRampino 3 ай бұрын

What a joke fender putting that on the back of the neck. Do they not know that Paul bigsby made for Merle Travis, the guitar with a similar headstock design I'd say fender stole from him. Where's their lawsuit.

@thelongvirtuesignal8551 2 ай бұрын

yep

@phil36135 3 ай бұрын

I remember the first and last guitar that' had the floyd rose setup. I thought it was cool until I put a new set of strings on it for a friend of mine. I thought I was losing my mind. It probably took way over an hour or more. I had one of the worst headaches ever. Never again will I change strings on a floyd rose setup, not even for money.

@ibanezlaney 3 ай бұрын

It isn't hard - Takes about the same time as any standard bridge once you know what you are doing.

@gao1258 3 ай бұрын

I enjoyed your rant, Dave of DWOFS also rants about the “ you need to get it in playing position folks” also I appreciate you and Dave and Uncle Doug above all others for helping me and entertaining me while I learn amps and guitar workbench stuff. This vid doesn’t help my fear of tremolo tho 😂

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, Dave seems like an ok dude.

@nocturnal101ravenous6 2 ай бұрын

Don't adjust bridge height on any guitar without detuning and taking the pressure off.

@gearhead762 3 ай бұрын

Im at 16:07 and think the wonky noise might be a spring or part of the tremol-no dragging in the cavity. Lets see what happens lol.

@BootyCollins-gf5er 3 ай бұрын

Those trem stop devices were really not designed to be used on the fly playing live, engaging them correctly is a pita. Dont know how guthrie does it. Some peeps used door hinges as a backstop back in the day, which pretty much did the job🤪

@idiotburns 2 ай бұрын

I use mine tremstop with my floyd based midi guitar for doing Eb or drop D and no resetup

@crosswalklarry 3 ай бұрын

I always wondered, why do some bridge saddles do the even "Stairs" look but occasionally you get one saddle that goes off the charts? Man, that hurt my fingers the way you used the allen key on the bridge height. 😁 When I worked for PRS I got a Tremonti as my two year employee guitar. Obviously the tech didn't test the tremelo. One of the springs was getting caught on some paint buildup in the trem cavity edge. It would make a loud creaking sound. I took a chisel and lightly scrapped it down. Also my neck pickup pot was DOA.

@xttocx 2 ай бұрын

Doesn't moving the trem up and down the posts cause th to blunt the knives edge under load like that?

@Lomoholga2 3 ай бұрын

I have a Charvel DK24- much cheaper version of this with a Gotoh 510 bridge. Excellent guitar with a neck that plays itself

@theariesexperiment4642 2 ай бұрын

Frost blue with white knobs and bobbins???? Me too if so. I put F-U Tone brass block, brass claw with brass screws, and white coated noiseless springs with GraphTech Ratio staggered tuners. Best guitar I've ever owned. The MIM Charvels are the absolute best bang for buck out there. That Gotoh 510 is the GOAT by the way. 😉👍

@steveweilhart2359 2 ай бұрын

nice demo - I have the so cal tele Charvel with the fishman pups all the body contours swamp ash body and very nice neck love it -

@thewrongneighborhood7847 3 ай бұрын

Ive had a treml-no in a Rhoads RR24 and ive had none of these issues. No noise on Floyd use, no binding up, returns to zero with no issue. mine has a locking nut though and it was bought in 2019 about. Also thats the "pin" version, mine is the clamp version so i have zero knowledge on the pinned version. I give it a touch of CLP gun cleaner every once in a blue moon that probably helps alot. The main reason i wanted to try it was being able to do unison bends but still have the option to go down with the trem, and it makes string changes on a floyd as fast as a hardtail.

@TheGuitologist 3 ай бұрын

You probably never tighten down the lock screws, I'm guessing. Eventually, it'll do exactly this. Good point on the string changes. but that's also something a simple block of wood can provide. You're right about the unison bends on a Floyd - bend one note and all other sustained notes dive, which is a drawback. That's why most Floyd layers use the arm while bending like that to try to cancel it with vibrato.

@thewrongneighborhood7847 3 ай бұрын

@@TheGuitologist i do, not a fuck load, i only unlock it all the way when i need too, i think the clp goes a long way and im sure eventually ill have to take it apart and sand it as you mentioned. I also think alot of people that have them and complain over tighten the screws and severely shorten the life of the guide rod, you barely have to get any tension on it for it to lock. Definitely not for everyone though and youre 100% right, if you think its gonna let you get away with having one guitar for your hard tail and floyd, youre wrong.

@matthewf1979 3 ай бұрын

Sir! This is a Wendy’s!!

@thewrongneighborhood7847 3 ай бұрын

@@TheGuitologist its alot of give and takes for sure, i think the ZPS system from ibanez was a better solution or the sophia trem from the same guy who designed the ZPS. At the end of the day Floyds are a huge give and take and you'll never get everything you want out of them.

@apostolispaspalakis2627 3 ай бұрын

Just got my Guthrie today. Loving everything about it but having the same buzzing issue on the high e and b strings. As soon as put my finger on it the buzzing stops. Should i send the guitar back or is this an easy fix? thank you to anyone willing to help

@michaelpadilla8869 3 ай бұрын

Brad, the only reason to ever have fine adjustment tuners is if the guitar has a locking nut, period.

@Geopholus 2 ай бұрын

Perhaps a fix to the trmo-no is to use delrin for one of both of the slidey parts (shaft or collar) and to tighten the collar. put a split in the collar and have tightenning screw(s) that squeeze the collar more closed. Actually the idea of shafts sliding in collars is always weak , because if it slides, there is slop. Better to use (like on a lathe or milling machine a triangular "way" that fits into a triangular hollow and a large cam type squeezer that locks it down.

@kmatax9237 3 ай бұрын

I thought you’re not supposed to adjust a tremolo height under string tension so you don’t damage the knife edges?

@JasonT-xp3kh 2 ай бұрын

Your not supposed to. I think that came from the earlier Floyd's and Ibanez trems that had razor sharp edges on the bridge and relatively soft posts. These modern bridges are a bit more robust with harder posts and the knife edges aren't as sharp. I would still loosen the strings up a little first, but you really don't need to if you know what you're doing.